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Spring Break
Originally Posted by Hargow20
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There was another recent report orn Reddit that some guy was stopped & searched by Police station by (Negrete & Primera). The good thing is that police did not steal any money. The other recent reports that the cops did not steal money as well. But this is a indication that we need to extra careful as well. It is always a good idea to take the money out of your wall when the police search you.
I remember seeing a headline of them increasing the number of police officers for Spring Break so maybe they are just doing more searches to make sure nobody has anything illegal. The good news is that with the recent posts about being searched nobody has had money stolen.
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Police stops
There was another recent report orn Reddit that some guy was stopped & searched by Police station by (Negrete & Primera). The good thing is that police did not steal any money. The other recent reports that the cops did not steal money as well. But this is a indication that we need to extra careful as well. It is always a good idea to take the money out of your wall when the police search you.
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Police stops
There was another recent report orn Reddit that some guy was stopped & searched by Police station by (Negrete & Primera). The good thing is that police did not steal any money. The other recent reports that the cops did not steal money as well. But this is a indication that we need to extra careful as well. It is always a good idea to take the money out of your wall when the police search you.
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Originally Posted by EnterTheV
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Maybe the USA could learn a thing or two from this advanced countries instead of funding wars all around the world for decades. Marina del Pilar could pass as a HK or Chicago club girl hehe Mexico does care about its Men!
According to legend, movie star Raquel Welch (1940-2023) worked as a sex worker in Tijuana when she was young and her name was Jo Raquel Tejada. You never know, today chica works in Hong Kong and in the future she may be a movie star or an important person in the government.
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It would be fairly easy to clean up the Zona. If there was better allocation LE resources they could get rid of the drug dealers. Most of the dealers hang out by hotel. CeCe. The national guard is a good idea. But they need a investigative arm as well.
Originally Posted by Sol12
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Where did I say the were gong to make prostitution illegal? The article was about cleaning up the Zona Norte and I mentioned that with a female president the chances of this happening are higher.
The mayor of Tijuana has her hands full trying to keep the violence down in the city but she has also introduced some laws to help women from abuse. The governor of the state has been using money to try and boost tourism to the state and her latest move was getting the red line trolley to be able to stop inside Tijuana. Who knows if that will actually happen. She is also dealing with projects to help the traffic in Tijuana. Now much like the US the federal government helps with these projects with funding.
If Sheinbaum wins she will be able to continue to help with federal money to get the Thresholds of America project done and this wouldn't make prostitution illegal they would just move it to a different part of the city so it's not the first thing you see as a tourist when visiting Tijuana. She was mayor of CDMX also and tried to clean it up along with helping the prostitutes from being controlled.
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Zona Norte
Originally Posted by Hargow20
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People talk about the poverty in the Zona. But in many parts of Tijuana there is lot of poverty. Just walk outside the Zona and head west or head east. Or walk on Madero or on Primera. I believe that the drug dealer is hte main problem in the Zona these days. Now up until 5-10 or years ago the bandito's was the big problem in the Zona. People were getting mugged all the time. Back in the mid 90's I was on the corner of Primera & Consittucion a couple of bandito's jumped me in broad daylight. About 7 years ago the ratero's would hang out by the hotel CeCe waiting to rob people. Thankfully those days are gone. Today muggings are rare in the Zona.
When you walk West or East from the bars you are still in the Zona Norte and Tijuana has many poor areas but the Zona Norte is among the worst and not what you want people to see when visiting. Even those that don't visit Tijuana and are driving to Playas, Rosarito and Ensenada drive by the Zona Norte and see what a disgusting place it is so that's the impression they have of Tijuana as a whole.
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Eyes to see
Originally Posted by StRobert
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Now the mayor of Tijuana is a woman, Monteserrat Caballero, and the governor of the state of Baja California Norte is also a woman, Marina del Pilar, and prostitution is doing well. It is much easier to tolerate prostitution legally than to prohibit it. Many governments know this, such as Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, etc. Because if you make prostitution illegal, it still exists, only now it is illegally controlled by criminal elements, which means aggressive pimps, std, trafficing women, dirty streets full of used condoms, etc. Endless sting operations and arrests of sex workers and customers. Total madness.
Maybe the USA could learn a thing or two from this advanced countries instead of funding wars all around the world for decades. Marina del Pilar could pass as a HK or Chicago club girl hehe Mexico does care about its Men!
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Cleaned up
Originally Posted by StRobert
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Now the mayor of Tijuana is a woman, Monteserrat Caballero, and the governor of the state of Baja California Norte is also a woman, Marina del Pilar, and prostitution is doing well. It is much easier to tolerate prostitution legally than to prohibit it. Many governments know this, such as Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, etc. Because if you make prostitution illegal, it still exists, only now it is illegally controlled by criminal elements, which means aggressive pimps, std, trafficing women, dirty streets full of used condoms, etc. Endless sting operations and arrests of sex workers and customers. Total madness.
Where did I say the were gong to make prostitution illegal? The article was about cleaning up the Zona Norte and I mentioned that with a female president the chances of this happening are higher.
The mayor of Tijuana has her hands full trying to keep the violence down in the city but she has also introduced some laws to help women from abuse. The governor of the state has been using money to try and boost tourism to the state and her latest move was getting the red line trolley to be able to stop inside Tijuana. Who knows if that will actually happen. She is also dealing with projects to help the traffic in Tijuana. Now much like the US the federal government helps with these projects with funding.
If Sheinbaum wins she will be able to continue to help with federal money to get the Thresholds of America project done and this wouldn't make prostitution illegal they would just move it to a different part of the city so it's not the first thing you see as a tourist when visiting Tijuana. She was mayor of CDMX also and tried to clean it up along with helping the prostitutes from being controlled.
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Mexico allows prostitution because a man seeing prostitute is part of their culture. Mexico also decriminalized prostitution because they believe it helps to reduce human trafficking. People talk about the poverty in the Zona. But in many parts of Tijuana there is lot of poverty. Just walk outside the Zona and head west or head east. Or walk on Madero or on Primera. I believe that the drug dealer is hte main problem in the Zona these days. Now up until 5-10 or years ago the bandito's was the big problem in the Zona. People were getting mugged all the time. Back in the mid 90's I was on the corner of Primera & Consittucion a couple of bandito's jumped me in broad daylight. About 7 years ago the ratero's would hang out by the hotel CeCe waiting to rob people. Thankfully those days are gone. Today muggings are rare in the Zona.
https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/engli...n-trafficking/
Study on prostitution in Mexico.
https://gencen.isp.msu.edu/files/871...7094/WP278.pdf
Originally Posted by StRobert
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Now the mayor of Tijuana is a woman, Monteserrat Caballero, and the governor of the state of Baja California Norte is also a woman, Marina del Pilar, and prostitution is doing well. It is much easier to tolerate prostitution legally than to prohibit it. Many governments know this, such as Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, etc. Because if you make prostitution illegal, it still exists, only now it is illegally controlled by criminal elements, which means aggressive pimps, std, trafficing women, dirty streets full of used condoms, etc. Endless sting operations and arrests of sex workers and customers. Total madness.
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Originally Posted by Sol12
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This has been discussed before and the other day an article talking about how run down the Zona Norte is and the people and businesses that are frustrated with the lack of money being spent to upgrade it. It also talks of the long wanted bridge connecting Plaza Americas to this area.
Like I said before, Mexicos next president will be a woman so the chances of the Zona getting cleaned up are very high in my opinion.
https://zetatijuana.com/2024/02/indi...ro-de-tijuana/
Now the mayor of Tijuana is a woman, Monteserrat Caballero, and the governor of the state of Baja California Norte is also a woman, Marina del Pilar, and prostitution is doing well. It is much easier to tolerate prostitution legally than to prohibit it. Many governments know this, such as Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, etc. Because if you make prostitution illegal, it still exists, only now it is illegally controlled by criminal elements, which means aggressive pimps, std, trafficing women, dirty streets full of used condoms, etc. Endless sting operations and arrests of sex workers and customers. Total madness.
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The cops are there all the time. I rarely see them searching anyone. My guess is that they are assigned there to keep the pedestrian only part of Primera free of Bandito's and other problems. Primera between Nino's Hero's and Constitucion be a little dicey especially at night. There is more people on the west side of Primera so it is safer.
Originally Posted by BaxterSlade
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Yes that little area between the arch and the side of hotel nelson has a reputation. I think cops who are assigned to patrol revolucion see that as there little hot spot to jack people up away from all the eyes on revolucion. From what I have been seeing and hearing it is usually a team of 3 cops, 2 men doing the frisking and a female acting as a lookout. I did hear of a fellow monger recently losing around $800 to these thieves. Another area to avoid would be primera between constituton and nino heros.
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Originally Posted by Hargow20
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I have not seen police stop anyone there recently.
Yes that little area between the arch and the side of hotel nelson has a reputation. I think cops who are assigned to patrol revolucion see that as there little hot spot to jack people up away from all the eyes on revolucion. From what I have been seeing and hearing it is usually a team of 3 cops, 2 men doing the frisking and a female acting as a lookout. I did hear of a fellow monger recently losing around $800 to these thieves. Another area to avoid would be primera between constituton and nino heros.
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I agree, I was in Uber last year and the cops stopped the Uber to search me last year around 1 am. If he was drunk then he would have been a target for the police to stop as well.
Originally Posted by LuvMexicanas
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Yeah it ebbs and flows but that's the area where I've most consistently seen gringos arms out getting searched including myself.
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Originally Posted by Hargow20
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I have not seen police stop anyone there recently.
Yeah it ebbs and flows but that's the area where I've most consistently seen gringos arms out getting searched including myself.
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I have not seen police stop anyone there recently.
Originally Posted by LuvMexicanas
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Or take a path to avoid the arch because most veterans like you should know the area near Hotel Nelson is a prime spot for cops to stop people.
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