Traveler and Skinless Discussions

[Tantrik]

Ljohnson, PsyberZombie and others

There's nothing irrational about Skinless' strategy. Keep on being abusive persistently, and it doesn't matter if you lack a real foundation for what you're saying. Part of the dirt thrown will still stick according to some people's perception, which is the whole purpose in the first place.

Most people will be too intimidated to state their opinion in a situation like this, for the very real fear of being the next target of abuse. Look at this thread, and you see what I mean. Those who do protest will do it briefly and politiely. Rarely will someone use the strategy against the person who used it first; find some almost entirely imaginary reason for their abuse and keep repeating it loudly and persistently, like a mantra. That might have been the right thing to do here, but then again, this board has probably been dragged though the gutter enough already.

Some people don't have the ability to make moral judgements, and some that do don't care or are too afraid to do so publicly. Others state their opinion as a matter of self respect, but they don't want to sacrifice themselves by making an issue out of it. The people who won't stand for it and have the balls and the skills to end the problem, are rare as stars at midday, if I may try to be poetic.

It takes considerable skill to pull a harassment-strategy like this off, but if you can, it gives you a great advantage, because you don't have to be right to win the discussion. You have to be an intelligent rhetoric, have a couple of associates that stick with you no matter what in case the situation turns critical, and be reasonably respected with some segments of the audience. Also, it really helps to have a minimum of facts to build your foundations on, even though it's not absolutely necessary. Besides, almost everyone has something that can be used against them. But most of all, you have to be really agressive and persistent. And the less you care about other peoples feelings, the better. Most people are socialized against being extremely agressive, and to back off when they meet someone who is. This is ofcourse another advantage that the hounders have.

PsyberZombie: Look at how you're assuming a submissive role here. You're just trying to defend Traveller from attacks, rather than making attacks yourself. That won't impress anyone. It will make you seem guilty, while in reality, it's just a natural reaction to an agressive individual. In sum, Skinless is left having his hands free to harass Traveler, while at the same time superficially having a discussion with you. This works very much his way. Your arguments are getting stale too, so people are becoming bored. But hey, thanks for stating your opinions anyway! I appreciate it.

[Skinless]

psyber: repeat it as often as you want. he has repeatedly violated thailand's child prostitution laws by violating thai children. i will keep repeating this as neccessary until 20th (ba time?) so that maybe you can understand it. it might make him a hero to his fellow travellers and fellow bar brawlers but not to me. or to thai judges. he is a self confessed sex criminal. he preys on thai children, as defined by thai law. geddit?

psyber: so now it is down to hair fetishes? you better watch your repetitive posts or the fellow travellers will start analyzing you maybe we can get a bulk shrink discount? :d

otto g: john kerry did fuck ****. back in 1961 when he was at school. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3498847.stm he since moved on with his life and grew up.

[PsyberZombie]

Please refer to my post in Opinions > Child Prostitution ....

[PsyberZombie]

to : skinless

traveler is not , i repeat *not* , a **** !!

a **** has an intense and recurring desire to have sex with children = if the kid has pubic hair , the trve **** has no sexual interest in that kid !!

how many times do i have to repeat this ??!!??

[Left Fielder]

i can't wait for this topic to close down.

it's plain and simple. i really do not think that traveler or others here (who post regularly) intentionally go after ****d girls nor are they interested in posting about it. nonetheless, they are interested in young looking women (of the 18 yo-ilk), in which there is nothing wrong.

still, it is likely that some of the posters and a number of lurkers are interested in these young girls, and posts and arguments such as these will only give some of the ****s information on what and where. personally, i find this to be a horrible thing, but we cannot police everybody. what we, as a board, can do is simply stop posting so much about it.

if you have a personal vendetta and wish to prosecute someone (ie. as i'm sure a number of you are interested in doing to traveler), then you will do so. however, there is no reason to trash these boards with it as well. if you don't like what he has to say, let jackson decide whether the info should stay or not. do not start these inflammatory wars.

skinless - you seem like a good guy, but let's put an end to this. some day, if he truly is doing wrong, he will get his due.

traveler - same to you. moreover, you should watch out. there are likely a number of mongerers who truly have it out for you. don't add to the flaming. just report the 'good news' and let's all enjoy.

well said, thanks.

[Skinless]

lbjohnson: thank you for your thoughts. as i mentioned earlier i have no time for psychologists as i consider them to be empty headed. psychiatrists yes, psychologists no. perhaps i should see one. perhaps. el **** should definitely see a lawyer though because he has admitted to breaking thailand's child prostitution laws.

you are probably right about his macho image. and about me: definitely not:d. i did not snap. quite the contrary. i tried to focus in on the law so make mr trav and others know he had committed a crime. that took many more posts than i would have wished. but it is awarning potential violators should heed.

as regards my hangups: the granny syndrome is, in large part, an act. few can pull an act off for a long time, not even the great sa whose recent posts lack his earlier zest. his multiple and repetitive posts send out an important message. i hope my one about breaking the child prostitution laws do as well.

when we hire out these ladies, we are all playng fantasies: they are hired holes: it is pay for play. the difference, and it is a key one is: i control whatever fantasies i have: i have tried several scenarios and they are not for me; i am pretty much plain vanilla. i do not break the child prostitution law. traveller does. i now stand accused of fucking thai women (not girls) all the way from 19 to 60, 70+. traveller and zop, his fellow traveller, got in before you and argued if i fuck legit women, then i fuck **** girls. that was their great argument. you merely say i fantasize about them. maybe i do (i don't actually). but i don't break the law so i have no need to worry about the inside of a thai jail as mr macho does.


at the moment, i am getting some professional help. from a recent college grad ( so = 21 plus); from a 28 yo hooker; and from sundry others, all of legal age.
am i a sinless skinless? no, i have my own demons. but i control them. and i do not fuck **** kids like traveller does.

i live in tokyo which has a thriving child sex scene as any japanese poster will tell you. i don't indulge at all.

so, lbj: an interesting and polite take but it does not deflect from the fact we have a sex criminal in our midst. thanks for your time and like all else, do read looking for lefty on the milwaukee board.

[Ljohnson]

traveler and skinless both have some serious "issues." traveler seems to have a "macho" ego hangup that will not permit him to allow skinless to have the last word. if traveler were more confident of his position, he would have stopped "playing this game" thousands of words ago. it is traveler's self doubt that keeps him coming back.

skinless, however, has the more serious issues. at a certain point in the discussion, he basically "snapped" and became irrational. all of his subsequent post read like those of a man dealing with a serious psychological hangup. one poster recently theorized that skinless may have had a bad childhood experience. not a bad theory; sounds pretty close to the truth. skinless has not sounded rational for some time; it is as though he is in an uncontrollable rage. my own theory is that skinless has his own tendencies toward, and attraction to **** girls; witness his gloating over going with the grannies. an overcompensation perhaps?

skinless, please try this on for size: when you react to someone in such an irrational way, as you clearly have done here, ask yourself the following:

"what is it that i cannot stand about myself, that i am seeing in this person right now?"

just one man's thoughts.

ljohnson

[Skinless]

jackson, otto, freeler et al:
1. this thread was not a waste of time. far from it: there are some long standing posters (that's plural) i don't want to ever meet as they sicken me. maybe some people don't want to meet myself and freeler which is fine by me. and fie by freeler in the case of el ****.
2. serious issues were raised not only about the prime offender but all posters. most posters seem to be fine and go after women only.
3. john kerry: if he spent his r&r in bkk (sorry bangkok - no chat room style), he was probably into women, not girls. the guys in olangapo used to drill little girls then. not all of them but some of them. same as some guys here drill little girls. not all of us but some of us. key point and l **** traveller pretending otherwise with his phantom pms does not change that.
4. george bush or john kerry: personally i would go for lynntrash who posts on the boston board. he has a simple agenda, he fucks women, not little girls and he is honest.
5. freeler: not a bad summary but you omitted some important details:
a. el **** lied about getting pms from members. ****s are in a minority here.
b. with zop and a few fellow travellers (geddit it: fellow travellers) he tried to deflect the argument by pointing out that you and i fuck legit age women.
c. we can remember who contacts us but he cannot.
d. traveller broke the child prostitution laws on several occasions. that legal fact makes him a criminal in thai eyes and traveller and his fellow travellers cannot change that core fact. anyone copying him had better watch out as thai jails are not nice. this is a key issue and i hope he does not entice others to prey on the ****d
e. sa has rightly pointed out that traveller's character is under developed. that might explain why he bar brawls and preys on children.
f. these posts will soon be gone. but all of us should remember traveller and practise due caution with him.

[Freeler]

all,

ok, i did some catching up and ******** is still in denial. he still says he'll stop posting but the just continues.

now, let me explain for the slower thinkers here, not many but there seem to be a few, ********'s mo to pick up **** girls:

(i realize that this is like a lesson in picking up **** girls, but this is all from ********'s posts):

go to a gogo and choose the youngest girl you can find.
ask for her age and hope she says she's 18 or over.
perhaps ask for her id but don't insist if she says 'no have'.
pay the barfine and take her out of the gogo.
take her to your hotel

here's the catch: the gogo is a place for prostitution as thai law describes it. the hotel is not...

abuse the girl but do not, repeat do not, promis her any money at all - this way you keep telling yourself: she loves me because i am hansum man!
abuse her, take advantage of her inexperience. like you, the ****, she is no good in the art of having sex, so she won't notice that you are nothing but a beginner, an impotent wimp around real women.
the next morning you put some money in her purse without telling her it is for the sex you had with her.
if you 'accidently' discover her id and see that she is only 17 yo, come to this board and express your outrage (and don't forget to post some pictures of your **** girl as well....)
this is how you can have sex with **** kids in thailand and get away with it.

now to all readers:
just take your time to check ******** posts and you will see that this is the above describes how ******** always acts when he picks up girls.

and while you are at it, you will also notice that other posters
--insist to check id's (no id no go),
--tell you to agree on price before taking her anywhere. you are going to have sex with a prostitute, don't deny that fact, that is why you have to agree on a price before you take her anywhere!
--say that there is no substitute for experience - not the experience you have with your **** girl, but the experience that your woman has gathered through years of fucking her brains out.

and again i wonder: why would you want to go with girls who look like children anyway?

thank you.

[Freeler]

Sorry,

I was off line for the past two days...
Did anybody really miss me?

[OttoGraham]

oh man, can i get some on-topic shots in before the 20th?

how's this:

"has anybody heard about how john kerry spent his vietnam war r&r vacation in bangkok screwing **** girls?"



-uncle otto

otto,

the official story is that he didn't actually penetrate them, he was only "experimenting".

jackson

[Admin]

NOTICE

I agree. This entire section makes me sick, but out of respect for the long history of the combatants posting here, I will stick to my own rules.

This discussion will be terminated and all reports will be deleted on February 20th, 2004.

Thank You,

Jackson

[1Ball]

Amen, Beetlejuice, looking forward to the 20th.

nothing interesting here.....

[Pauline Hanson]

Did something bad happen to you as a child Skinless? Maybe that's the reason you're acting this way. I think it's you who needs to see a psychologist/psychiatrist.

[Beetlejuice]

This whole thread is making me sick...Why wiat 2 more days?