Traveler and Skinless Discussions

[Freeler]

Bil,

"I still feel -------- will still put one last denial post in."
Just one?

PS Are you still counting?

[Ljohnson]

Traveler (or anyone):

Just where are those notorious pics you posted that everyone is talking about. I missed that part?

LJohnson

[The Traveler]

Jackson

Thanks for your patience and sorry for any inconvinience caused.


Skinless/Freeler

Thanks for entertaining me.


all others

Thanks for all your comments.
I think we all agree that nobody is perfect and everybody makes mistakes. But do not deny them, learn from it !

[The Traveler]

ljohnson

hmm, maybe your assumptions about "playing this game" is correct. it's hard to leave the last word to someone who calls you a **** without knowing you at all. but i had no self doubts. anybody can have a look at the pics i have posted. it is quite clear that i am not a ****.


left fielder/joe zop

i absolutely agree with both of you and let's get back to what this forum is intended for.


tantrik

wow, i am really impressed. this is absolutely the best post i have seen (dated 02-19-04 01:04).
not because it favours me in some way, it is exactly what i think about this discussion. you analyzed the things that you have seen in a very rational and objective way.
some others here should follow your example.

[Sainter]

Skinless, I wasn't being racist about the Japanese men. However, their mongering reputation around the world isn't too flash.(recent events in China). All I was saying is that, it was no surprise that the fella you mentioned was Jap.

[Skinless]

good evening jackson: it is 7.43pm here in tokyo japan. some points:
1. the bb one: i did get pmled about her but not, fortunately, about her younger sister. if i may quote her "i too have a heart". some thai/japanese zen for you. low and pathetic shots indeed.
2. brainless. that's a good, original one to add to the list. i thought i stayed to the letter of the law in trying to impart an important message.
3. freeler: is his own man. check the start of this thread.
4. general law warning: do not break the child prostitution or drug laws in thailand. if you are caught, you are fucked. traveller will be caught.
5. lbj: i am a polite guy. i take your points about shrinks. and attorneys. sometimes, however, attorneys are needed.
6. tantrik: i am not in an argument here. i merely read the law to someone who broke it and who, by refusing to listen, put his liberty but, more importantly, the liberty of others who might follow him in jeoparady. the whole basis is traveller broke the child prostitution law and he and his fellow travellers tried to turn it that freeler and i broke the same law by fucking women ages 19-61.
7. psyber: i am in no argument with you, not even a pedantic one over a definition. traveller repeatedly broke the child prostitution law.
8. granted, maybe he forgets he broke it, the same way he forgets who pmed him looking for **** sex in thailand.
9. anyway, time now for the milwaukee board.
10. jackson, at 7.43 tokyo time patience and apologies for this extra workload. i believe it has been worthwhile and will prove to be in the future. you deserve a good bottle of argentine champagne or wine after that.
11. my original post was half to traveller and half to sweden who had problems of a different sort. please go back and read the thread. the same goes to see where the name calling began.

[Bill]

Freeler,

Your post on 2/18 17:25 was totally right on. I still feel -------- will still put one last denial post in.

[Joe Zop]

Amen, 1ball. Hey Jackson, any chance of taking the international dateline into account?

And since it has been (as seems usual in this thread) radically distorted, let me clarify that my point in noting Skinless' dalliance with a 19 year-old was decidedly NOT to say or imply that he was messing with children, it was to note the thinness of the lines here, and that the ability for any monger to easily and clearly recognize whether someone is that age, which is legal, or fifteen months or so younger, which is not, is at best difficult and problematic. (I understand that to actually post in this thread and not hurl an grave accusation at someone is confusing.) I agree that ID is critical, but that can of course still be borrowed or faked.

To repeat what I said then: There are many, many mongers who have posted here over the years who talk only of getting the youngest and newest available TGs, and this thread is, to say the least, a troubling statement on where that can lead.

To say it clearly, lest it be misinterpreted again: this is not saying that people are child molesters -- it says that being close to the age line puts you closer to tragic error and thereby at greater risk.

[Freeler]

skinless,

"(ba time?) "
a valid point - a day lasts 48 hours on this planet...

tantrik,

"and it doesn't matter if you lack a real foundation for what you're saying."

hmm, so confessing to fuck **** kids (that means not yet 18 years of age in prostitution...) in thailand and posting pictures of these kids is not enough?
a thai court would be all to pleased with all this evidence.

pounding us with a definition of ****s doesn't change these facts.

and if anyone wants to follow in ******** footsteps, by all means, scroll down to my mo-explaining post and go ahead.

[1Ball]

27.5 hours 'till this BS disappears, but who's counting?

Let's hope this discussion doesn't reappear on another thread....

[Tantrik]

PsyberZombie:

Yes, you're right. But my point is still that most people don't decide who wins the debate based on the arguments. They decide on who gets to humitiate the other part, who will cause them the most pleasure and/or the least pain later on, and who looks best on TV.

[PsyberZombie]

Tantrik the Zen Comic Insult Master :

Surely Tantrik the Master Debater knows that Force Used against It·self is TWICE the Force.

Or is it the Other Way Around ??

Either Way = you Know What I Mean

[Tantrik]

PsyberZombie,

Never mind submissive then, let's just stick with defensive. You're basically defending yourself against his arguments rather well, but you're not doing any attacking. And a lot of people don't care about logical flaws, what they care about is the fact that someone gets to throw a lot of insults and partly seems to get away with it. Noone here's really throwing anything back at Skinless, they're just trying to refute him. But by all means, as far as arguments are concerned, you're the winner here.

In a boxing match, you'd see what I mean: Skinless is doing all the punching, and even though his adversaries seem to avoid most of the blows, that's not enough to make any of them win the fight.

Tantrik the Zen Comic Insult Master

[PsyberZombie]

Tantrik the Zen Comic Insult Master writes =

" PsyberZombie: Look at how you're assuming a submissive role here. "

Kindly explain how pointing out a obvious Logical Flaw to a BRAIN·LESS individual makes me 'Submissive'

[Ljohnson]

Skinless,

I just want to briefly thank you for your polite and reasoned response to my "armchair analysis." I am neither a psychologist nor a psychiatrist (though, perhaps ironically, I am an attorney) and I respect your skepticism regarding psychologists (although the psychiatrists I have know have been even more wacky than my psychologist friends.)

Your candid response is refreshing and appreciated. I also want to congratulate your "sparring partner" The Traveler, for his restraint in not taking any more bait and diving back into what has now become a futile and pointless debate. (It may not have been futile and pointless at the start, but it is now.)

Congratulations to Jackson for the decision to erase all of this in a few days.

LJ