Angeles City - 2004 Reports

[Mikster]

McBarker,

Seven weeks in the RP huh? You lucky dog. Your right about AC, I think it would be a very difficult proposition to have a trusting relationship start there. I dont know how you would explain why, of all places, you are in AC looking for Ms. Right. Sound like a hard one to me. I agree with you, its probably better to view AC as a sexual fantasy land more than anything else. I am trying to make it back over in April/May. If I do, I will probably go to AC for at least a night or two so maybe we can all hook up and compare war stories. Have a good one.

Mikster

[Jack Brice]

folks,

just like every other country worth mongering in, you will find regular, semi-pro and pro girls (panama, costa rica, etc). however, i must agree with mcbarker, the ac environment isn't conducive to finding a "keeper". the clubs have a huge influence on their surroundings making ac like a fantasy land. the old saying goes "you can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl." only switch "bar" for "ac" and it's the same situation. i can hear the voices of military past saying, 'hey man, this one's different...' right.

i'm not saying there aren't exceptions in ac, but you are better off looking outside of pampanga. there are plenty of traditional girls if that's your speed. but if you want traditional girls that will fuck you, you're dreaming. if the 'regular girls' you meet in ac slept with you, well, they just ain't very traditional and are a product of their environment. but hey, ac is for dreaming. the bad part is that sooner or later you will wake up.

i go to ac for the adult playground that it is, not looking for true love. besides, i would never marry a girl from ac. imagine coming to visit her folks and roaming around ac with your wife. that's like taking sand to the beach, man!

ultimately, it's to each his own. also, further reports on the ac women's culture should probably go on another thread and not here. this thread is reserved for mongering and ho-chasing. but i repeat myself.

jb

[Tatoosh]

Just for the heck of it, CIA worldfacts website provides the following info:

Sex Ratio:

At birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.04 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 0.99 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.77 male(s)/female

Total population: 1 male(s)/female (2003 est.)

Infant Mortality:

Total: 24.98 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 21.91 deaths/1,000 live births (2003 est.)
male: 27.9 deaths/1,000 live births

So, like most places, more boys born than girls, that remains true into their youth, but as the male population grow older males die sooner and younger and the ratio begins to favor the women. Note that at fifteen there are still more boys than girls. But the stretch between fifteen and sixty four it reverses slightly.

Tatoosh

[Mikster]

Hey fellas,

I get a hoot listening to this juniour character lecturing me on morality, exploitation, how to treat women, etc etc., as he just finished P4P in the RP for several days. Unbelievable.

Juniour, my son, I didnt go to AC to look for a regular girl. I went to bang my cock off and mission was accomplished. I ask around about regular girls and was told it was not a good idea in that neck of the woods and I believe that to be true. Just because a few girls went out with you doesnt mean anything son. The websites are full of AC girls looking for men, most of them pros and semi-pros. But, you can do what you want, I dont care.

Since you like to lecture me about not having a regular girl in the RP I have a question for you. Where is your regular girlfriend? You claim to have lived in the RP for many years, but you act like a novice in Manila with all your escapades. Whats a veteran like you doing in AC or La Cafe? Remember what you keep saying son, if you cant find a regular girl in the RP there is something seriously wrong with you. So, whats wrong with you?

Dont care how many women you see in the RP, the fact is the population is roughly 50-50. Infant mortality rate? What, are only the boys dying? Give me a break son.

One last note to the board. This juniour character sent me a hilarious email saying, among other veiled threats, that I should stop talking about LA Cafe or the terrorists might bomb it. Like they havent known about that place and who goes there for the past umpteen years. Your a rocket scientist fella. Oh BTW, the only thing you would wipe your ass with me on me is my foot.

Later fellas,

Mikster

[Member #1005]

Mikster,

Maybe you should check out the Infant mortality rate, whereby children are generally not counted until they reach the age of one. Unfortunately, I don’t have time to count the population myself, but when I find the time I will look for them. Philippines is unique in that there are a high number of females around, just look at the world of business and how many females in the Philippines are CEO of large corporations and they currently have their second female president. This country is a female dominated country without a doubt.

I cannot comments on what your friends claim about Brazil & Colombia maybe you should try addressing this question to them.

On finding regular girls, in the first two days I was with girl two I spent no more that 1,500 Pesos on meals and drinks for us all, and this includes when her friend first came out with us, so do the maths. On subsequent times she made a point of paying for things, as I am sure others will tell you because she didn’t want me to think she couldn’t pay her way, hence the dinner she cooked. Maybe with your attitude to women you are the one with the problem, because most guys I know have no problems meeting regular girls especially in the Philippines. Remember I know people, who are business families in Cebu, many Chinese-Filippinos, and I’ve had no problems socialising with them, the only problem with Chinese-Filippinos is they are always match-making and will make an effort to look after you, all the time hence they sometimes feel insulted if you come to their city and don’t stay with them and I have know this family for 14 years.

As I will say and say again, if you cannot find a steady girl in the Philippines maybe there is something seriously wrong with you, and judging by some of the horror stories I heard girls telling me about some of the guys they had known its no wonder some guys have problems making a relationship last.

My only tip to someone like you is to maybe treat the girls as a human being and not just a piece of meat, providing you changed your attitude you might fine much more GFE in my opinion. Providing you have time between these 500 Pesos beauty queens, keeping your plate full.

I will be looking forward to your post, should you actually write one.


Juniour

[McBarker]

Mikster,

Your exactly right about meeting regular girls in AC. Its very, very difficult because we are sterotyped as sex tourists, which is true. I'm divorced from a regular girl who worked at a hotel in AC and this girl had no past history with men prior to me and she was inocent, but my whole marriage was haunted with how many bargirls did you screw before you met me ect, ect.

Once she felt comfortable here she had no problem bring things up in my past when I was there even though I was faithful to her our entire marriage. I would highly recommend not marrying a woman from Pampanga to anyone. Cebu IMHO has been over used in the penpal business and its not ripe for the picking.

Dumaguete I've heard from ex-pats in Cebu is the place to go to meet regular girls, semi pro's and pro's. I've heard nothing but great things about Dumaguete. A few people report here Davao is good and the people who write this have very crediable reports so I tend to believe its true. I was in Leyte in November on Biliran Island town of Naval and there were all regular girls there and no action to speak of, but no stunners either. There is a reason girls in AC carry more than one cell phone its because there is more than one Sugardaddy. I take AC for what it is a 24 hour a day party but if I want a regular girl I would go to Dumaguete 1st. AC girls play men as well as Jimi Hendrix played the guitar. By the way I leave for AC in 14 hours. I will be at the Clarkton Hotel. I'll be in the PI 7 plus weeks and will go to Cebu, Dumaguete and Boracay too but I'll mostly be in AC. I arrive late at night on the 24th at Clark Airport on Asiana Airlines.

Reguards to all Mongers,

McBarker.

[Mikster]

Juniour,

Please fill us in on how you came up with the figure of 7 girls to every boy born. This reminds me of the guys who used to tell me to go to Brazil and Colombia because there were 15 women to every man. When I look up the population figures for all these countries, they are always close to 50-50. Where do all these women stay who dont get counted?

I did alot of asking around when I was in Angeles City about meeting regular girls. One of the problems is, every girl in that city knows exactly why 99% of the men go there. Mongering, of course. It makes it more difficult to meet truly nice girls from good, strict families. Girls will go out with guys, certainly they will do it. You have money and they know you will spend it on them so its a no brainer for the girl. They cant lose, but do they take AC guys seriously? I dont know, maybe others can chime in on this question who have been there more often than me. I didnt have time to look for regular girls in AC, my plate was full every day.

Mikster

[Member #1005]

Conclusions

How to have a good time in the Philippines, having spent the best part of twenty odd days in Bangkok, Manila and Angeles City there are a number of things I will share with you to have a good time. In AC the mongering is good but after a few days I preferred the option of chasing regular girls ,hard work but rewarding, I will do this by bullet points:

1. Get yourself a cell, you can bring your own cell phone and buy a chip from either Smart or Globe, check my earlier posts for more details. In this day an age you need to have a contact point and let me assure you these girls will be texting and calling you regularly. Honestly, the amount of times I was with other girls and received a text message or calls from the last one was unreal, not about anything in particular but just asking what I was doing- obviously, chasing other women. Also on Smart you can passaload no not that stuff you have been smoking all week, but transfer some money from your balance to some else and when you think that 10 Pesos (18 cents) is a big deal to someone out there but literally peanuts to ourselves and during my stay I gave several loads to girls I had met.


2. Smarted yourselves up for mongering, its not the first time I have seen this and if you want to impress a girl, sorry a sandals and a t-shirt you have been wearing all day, doesn’t cut it. Sometime I was embarrassed to see the way some guys dressed in both Thailand and the Philippines. Most of the places I visited people always remembered my name because I took pride in my appearance.

3. When you come and meeting regular girls bring small presents, like perfume, small boxes of chocolates, etc, you don’t need to spend big money here but girls will be very appreciative. They will want to cook for you or wash your clothes in return as well as spending time with you.

4. Bar girls are fine but remember in the Philippines there are something like seven girls to every boy born, like I said before and will say again, if you cannot find a steady girl there must be something seriously wrong with you. There are a number of ways to meet regular girls via chat sites and pen pals, you need to inform them that you will be coming and would like to meet up. As I clearly, stated that I had the contact details for six girls I had promised to meet when I came but could only meet up with five of them, too many women not enough time. I also had the cell no of two others girls whom I didn’t tell them I was going to be in town but as it turned out I would not have had time to meet them anyway. Even if you go to a bar in P Burgos Street and shell out a few thousand pesos on the girls a majority of them are open to meeting you later, as I experienced. In fact, all of the girls who I met, that had cells, gave me their numbers as asked me to get in contact.

5. In Angeles City you won’t need to have a lot of money to have a good time but ATMs are far from the Field Ave, so have enough money to carry you over. The Orchid Inn does have wall safes in most of the rooms, so make sure you lock your shit up. AC is the type of place you love or you hate but for every hooker that are five or more regular girls you can meet.

6. Make conversation with people talk to people you meet, male & female, in stores or wherever ask them about themselves, let them know you’re single and looking. If you do meet girls even if they already have boyfriends ask them to hook you up with their good looking single friends, every girl has an attractive single friend. One girl I got to know from this club, who was a very attractive girl, said to me that when she walks in the mall and sees these girls with a foreign boyfriend she always asks herself: “what does she have that I don’t have, to get such a guy?” And let me assure you some of the guys I saw in various malls were not that much of a catch anyway with girls who are 7s, 8s and 9s.

7. Like everywhere there are good and bad bars, without mentioning names about specific bars I would suggest you come with an open mind as to what to expect. I splashed out on ladies drinks a couple of times, but I had no one offering to such my dick on just a couple of ladies drinks, even when there were only three customers in the bar nor did I observe this taking place. Likewise, even just paying out for orange juices I still got the same type of treatment.

8. On photos: I have recently heard that because of the relative ease of copying photos that many other lesser known web sites have been stealing "our photos" and passing them off as their own……honestly! Worst still, charging for the privilege of using stolen photos, this is one reason I have defaced all of the 30 odd photos I have posted. I suggest you do the same whether by putting your name across them, a caption or whatever. I don’t see why someone else should benefit from my hard work. Plus all the girls that were happy for me to take their photos I have posted their pictures, the girls that asked for me to mask their identity I have done so because there is no point me revealing their identity and forcing them to leave their respective establishments. This is why the two girls from Scandals whom I masked their identity I have kept my promise, as one of them has already had her imagine posted on dating sites and porn sites without her knowledge so quite naturally she was a bit paranoid about photos. Plus anyone with an IQ that runs into double figures should really not have any difficulty in locating the people if you go the places I mentioned. If they are not there either they are not working or someone else has bar fined them already.


Enjoy yourself, one final photo

Juniour

[Jack Brice]

Wow,

People with enough time to hit the bar girls, blow row, and regular girls! Talk about time management.

I'll be honest with y'all, I only worry about the first two. But I do have a little story about a regular girl.

One of my early trips back in the nineties, I went broke around day 7 (of 12). I had paid the hotel in advance, so I had a place to stay, breakfast, and a ride back to the airport. That was it, besides some chump change. I was pondering this at the Ville, and it must have been obvious because this one honey came over and started talking to me. To make a long story short, she took me out to, uh, "cheer me up". She told me to stay at her house for the rest of the time there, and she'd hook me up with the ride to the airport. So I got my money back for the rest of the time at the hotel, plus the van fare, and stayed with her. The extra money was about 100 bucks and was plenty for a good time with her for the rest of the trip. She cooked for me, partied with me and had some great sex with me. She went with me on the bus to the airport, and made sure I made it safely.

She was the epitomy of a nice Filipina. I will never forget that and it's one of the reasons the PI will always be at the top of my list.

JB

PS: Hey Jack S., I must agree with you, old girl at the Blow Row bar could hook me up any day, especially after a couple SM under my belt.

Maybe I need to up my standards.

NOT! Haha!

[Jack Spratt]

Juniour, I don't know about the other 100 or so people who had viewed your photos of the girls from the Black Pearl, but I would take very little pursuading to let other of them blow me - particularly the one pictured in the bar.

We all have different tastes, but I would rate her well above 5.

jack

[Tiger74]

GREAT report(s) Juniuor!!

Here I am turning 30 in a few months thinking I'm now "old", and you seem to be talking about 70 year grandpas in wheelchairs fucking left and right LOL!!

Actually, I JUST booked the Orchid myself, so I was curious to hear an update on that place. So, I take it you recommend it??

I will be in A.C. on the 30th (I think). So, yeah, I'm more pumped after hearing your report. Also, what chat rooms do you go to meet all the regular girls??

Lastly, what about the SM mall. Can you meet "regular" girls there too? I always here about Cebu (which I could have if it wasn't for having my stinking girlfriend there LOL) and Manila. Is it just as easy to pick up girls there.

But I know, I know, it's A.C., why would I bother, right?

[Member #1005]

Those of you interested in the historical parts of Angeles City

[Member #1005]

Fast Forward to the following days in Angeles City

During the days in AC I was in pursuit of regular girls that I have been in contact through various web chats etc and had the contact details for six of them but arranged to meet up with four of them in Angeles City, just to go for dinner. Here is the outcome, one of them the first I met for dinner is a nice girl and sweet, let’s call her Girl one a bit naïve to the real world however because despite living in Angeles City for over a year she still doesn’t know much about it. She turned up to dinner with her friend and we discussed many things and she told me she had a friend working in the Blue Nile as a traditional dancer. I had previously been into the Blue Nile and have yet to see any traditional dancers. I left it that I would get in contact with her and received several text messages the following days with quotes from the bible or something to that effect but I didn't have time to meet up again- too busy.

Girl two I arranged to meet at 11pm in Komoko initially and once again she brought along a friend where after twenty minutes we went to R&B, a club near Clark with live bands singing popular hits, and if you have never seen live bands singing popular R&B and hip hop tunes its worth a visit to hear Boyonce’s “Baby Boy”, 50 Cent’s “In the Club” and Chingy’s “Right Thurr”, sang with a Philippino twang to it.; a good night’s entertainment.

Girl Two was OK and on the following night we went to the Pick Up Disco which surprised me as being better than I had expected, she wanted to bring her friend along or rather the friend wanted to come, but I said no because for one her friend already had a boyfriend and two, she had too much of an expensive taste for my liking, I hate girls who order things off the menu and leave it, having only taken a few bites out of it, especially when I am paying the bill. I was always brought up to eat what you have on your plate and only put on what you intend to eat. What made it worse is that this girl was not working either and yet girl two, who was working, was not as extravagant as this girl. I said if this girl wanted to come to this disco she should bring her boyfriend to pay her way because I certainly wasn’t picking up her bill.

The Pick Up disco has slightly misleading name, because in a city like Angeles I really was expecting a pick up disco but its more of an up market club for the affluent Philippinos in AC and all those who want to be. You can meet many single women in there, as you can in most places in AC, however I would recommend that if you take a girl here, you are looking to impress her. After a night of dancing at 3am I suggested that she shouldn’t be travelling home alone, as it wasn’t safe for a young lady to be going home alone and stay with me, she was undecided and kept saying well I must get home, but in the end after saying I was only interested in her welfare and it would be on my conscience if something happened to her; she stayed with me, we did not have sex that night but just slept, because she was concerned that like most of the foreigners I just wanted one thing boom boom and nothing more (50% true). Obviously, I told her this was not the case, anyway in the morning she initiated sex and I naturally responded. Girl Two I liked very much because I didn’t expect her to be relaxed with me because in our earlier corresponded she was a bit stand off-ish at times; however I was impressed by her when she offered to cook me some food and got up at 6am to cook it. I went out a few times with her and later on we went to SM mall where I brought her two new outfits as thanks for the meal. I will expect to keep in touch with this girl in the future she is A OK. She stayed with me a couple of times and on my last night there in bed she had tears in her eyes and I asked what was wrong but she didn’t say but I think she was attached to me by now because I said if I come back later on in the year what would you like for me to buy for you and she said a ring, a wedding ring, then she claimed she was only joking.

Girl Three She was a bit of a surprises really because when I called her she said she couldn’t speak and would text me right away (strange), then she texted me three times to say she wanted to tell me something urgently but didn’t know how and was a bit paranoid that I would hate her if she told me this big secret. I was thinking, is this really a man? Anyway after many text messages it turns out she’s five months pregnant to some guy who ran off as soon as her heard she was pregnant and she thought I was going to hate her because of this. But I was OK I took her for dinner twice to reassure her that everything was alright and we discussed her plans for the future. Her biggest problem right now is her mother threw her out when she discovered her daughter was pregnant and her brother, who is an hairdresser and gay, well no surprises there then, took her in and is promising to look after here and the baby when it arrives in April/May. I told girl two about her and when we went shopping at SM she suggested I buy her some baby clothes and items which I did to help her out.

Girl Four

Was a sweet very young looking girl, we met when she arrived 45 minutes late with her sister to go to one of the local malls. This girl offered several times to come to my hotel but to be honest, she didn’t do anything for me, we just didn’t click and whilst some guys like the idea of having a sweet innocent girl, I was not interested. She told me that she wasn’t a virgin, as if that made a difference but I said I am sure the right guy is out there somewhere for you. Apparently, she is in the process of going to Japan as an entertainer, but I warned her to look at the contract carefully because having been to Japan, last year, I saw what a lot of these “so-called” entertainers are expected to do. This girl then wanted me to meet her parents of which I managed to get out of the first time but she kept calling me and texting me following this, so out of kindness I agreed to go to her home for a couple of hours only because I said I already had other commitments that day. On arrival at her house, what seemed like the whole family was there and not only that they had cooked specially for me, uncles, grandmother etc, I don’t know what she had told her family about us, but I made it clear we were just friends. Anyway I just left it like that in the end and that was the last time I saw her whilst in AC. I did text her from the airport to say good bye and use up credits on the Smart cell I had brought.

Girl Five

When I first arrived in Manila, unfortunately she was ill and was not in a position to meet up with me before I went up to AC, but since I had brought her a small present, I arranged for her to meet up when I returned from Angeles to Manila I gave her a call and she came to meet up with me. She was once again a nice girl but boy could this girl talk, I have always been someone who is naturally talkative but this girl was something else. A very nice genuine girl because as I was leaving she even came with me to the airport to help me with my bags but at this stage on departing the Philippines, I had now met so many other girls that my mind was already fixed on Girl two.

So summing up my conclusions anyone who spends less than two days in Anglese City and fails to find a regular girl, from the thousands available, all I can say is there must be something seriously wrong with them. I even observed one guy in an electric wheel chair with no legs, a bit like Hank Hill from “King of the Hill” coming down Field’s avenue with a girl on the back of his ride – only in AC!


Juniour

[Member #1005]

Blow Row - Santos Street

[Member #1005]

Viagra

I noticed in a couple of clubs and various establishments in AC that there were many signs up selling Viagra, as this question frequently crops up I decided to investigate further. The prices ranged from 500 – 800 Pesos (U$9-14) for 80mg and 100mg a tablet. I also observed signs for Viagra substitute, but anyone interested in these products I would suggest a word of caution because there are many counterfeit drugs floating about so as I am not a qualified pharmacist I cannot vouch for the quality of these drugs.

One of these street vendors claimed to be selling DVDs I brought one out of curiosity to see the quality only to discover that it was actually a low quality VCD and not a DVD. I would suggest if you require Viagra that you bring them with you rather than rely on purchasing them from an unknown source.

Juniour