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[Franz2]

I saw some discussions about afrointroductions.com espc. in the Ghana forum. I don't agree that this is a completely scam. Of course you find alot of girls lookin for your money there. My experience was that espc. Nigerians and Ghana ads were starting to ask for money very fast. I met 4 girls from afrointroduction when I visited Kenya and all I can say it was a very good experience. No money involved and they were open for all the mongerin fun.

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[Pedro Chilli]

Thanks for all the good info Frank. I am planning another African safari in the next month or two and when I get a chance I will read the Ghana and Cameroon sections of the board before choosing a destination.

The availability fo cheap flights of course also influences my decision and as I live in the UK it is often hard to find a better African fare than Nairobi.

[GoodEnough]

I agree with most of what Frank Africa has said. However, Sierra Leone is not very dangerous any more, and I've had some great times there, though I admit, the pickings were not as good as in Ghana. However, I think that Uganda, rather than Tanzania, should be included on any top 5 list. The place is crawling with available women, has (I think) more refugees from other parts of Africa than Tanzania, and better infrastructure in the cities. I realize all of this is quite subjective, but Uganda would get my vote.
GE

[Frank Africa]

There's also some good discussion about the "Top 5" countries on the Malawi board, of all places.

[Frank Africa]

Frank, unless I am mistaken. your top choices all have French as their second language. This is a predominantly english speaking board.

Actually my top two choices are Cameroon, officially bi-lingual English-French, and Ghana, an English-speaking country that is a former British colony. I used to live in the former British-colony section of Cameroon, where virtually no one spoke French, and had great sex on pretty much a daily basis.

The Francophone countries that I specifically mentioned, such as Cote d'Ivoire and Togo, were in response to Blastoff's original list.

I have nothing bad to say about such English-speaking countries as Kenya and Tanzania, just that both Cameroon and Ghana are even better IMHO.

Many of the English-speaking countries in Africa, such as Sierra Leone, Liberia & Nigeria, and more recently Zimbabwe, have hot girls but have been dangerous places to visit in recent years, which is why I would not put them on any "Top 5" list.

In any case, knowing only English will get you laid in virtually any country in Sub-Saharan Africa. In most of the Francophone capital cities, such as Dakar, Abidjan, Lome, Ouagadougou and Cotonou, you can survive quite easily without speaking French. Many of the girls in Abidjan & Lome come from the neighboring English-speaking countries anyway.

Please don't ever be afraid to monger in any French-speaking country in Africa, even in an out-of-the-way place such as Mali!

Check out the Togo board for a more detailed discussion of Blastoff's post, which he had posted on several different boards.

[Pedro Chilli]

Frank, unless I am mistaken. your top choices all have French as their second language. This is a predominantly english speaking board.

[Frank Africa]

It is amazing to me, not yet having travelled to Africa, the differences of opinion I am getting from mongers who have visited there.

For e.g. if you ask an Asian traveller where that biggest and hottest P4P scene is, nearly all with say Thailand. In South America most will say Brazil but in Africa I am getting so much or a mixed response it is hard to decide which place or places to visit first. I may just have to visit them all over time LOL.

I have been hearing the following places as the best to monger.

Ethiopia

Senegal

Cameroon

Ghana

Mombasa, Kenya

Togo

now Côte d'Ivoire & Benin

I may try and post this message on all these African boards here and get a serious vote going.

One reason for the differing opinions is that Africa for the most part has no organized P4P scene anywhere, except maybe Mombasa, Kenya. Although there may be a few massage parlors and hard-core discos such as the two Florida clubs in Nairobi, Kenya, for the most part it's an unorganized scene of amateurs.

Having said that, after visiting 32 black African countries in my life, living in several of them, for me the choice is easy:

Cameroon, hands down.

Cote d'Ivoire? was a nice place back in the late 1980s, with gorgeous girls from several neighboring countries as well as Cote d'Ivoire, but with the ongoing civil war, I'd advise all mongers to stay away from Abidjan and go somewhere else. Crime is terrible in Abidjan.

Togo? the girls are lots of fun here, but among the "least beautiful" I've come across, at least in West/Central Africa

Ethiopia? Some of the best looking women on the continent, but also the most passive and shy. Worst in bed I've ever experienced.

The other places you've mentioned are not bad, but Cameroon is still the best, with Ghana second.

[Blastoff]

It is amazing to me, not yet having travelled to Africa, the differences of opinion I am getting from mongers who have visited there.

For e.g. if you ask an Asian traveller where that biggest and hottest P4P scene is, nearly all with say Thailand. In South America most will say Brazil but in Africa I am getting so much or a mixed response it is hard to decide which place or places to visit first. I may just have to visit them all over time LOL.

I have been hearing the following places as the best to monger.

Ethiopia

Senegal

Cameroon

Ghana

Mombassa

Togo

now Côte d'Ivoire & Benin

I may try and post this message on all these African boards here and get a serious vote going.

[Auaind]

What about the hottentots? Aren't they known for huge backsides?

Man it ain't only about size it's about proportion and texture. African gals are naturally uh gifted and now with western eating habits and fast food coming into their lives (along with education and MTV-Channel O-Channel -V-MCM etc etc) they are beginning to visibly change how they look. These days (more than a couple of years ago) more and more like the musicvideo babes we're used to drooling over.

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[KnickFan]

What about the hottentots? Aren't they known for huge backsides?

[XXL]

As far as finding the American dancer look-alike, Americans are generally thicker than African women. Women who appear the hottest in a tight pair of jeans, don't necessarily look as great naked. Great bodies are not as easy to spot in the modest African countries.

I second that.

Besides, nobody knows what MTV girls would look like if they were standing before us instead of writhing to music on a TV screen. For all we know, they may be transvestites (fans of Brazil will know what I mean).

First my mileage on body heights: in some countries, people would tend to be on the small side (Benin, Togo, Ghana). In Cotonou (Benin), tall people were often pointed to me as being Ibos from neighbouring Nigeria. I found the overall population to be somewhat taller in the Ivory Coast and the Cameroons. I've seen some very tall girls from Senegal in Paris but I've never been to Senegal.

Then a few general points:

1) Young women will often be on the skinny side compared to American Africans. This probably has to do with eating habits. Most of the stunners I met in Africa were skinny creatures.
2) Plastic surgery is absent in Africa.
3) All mothers suckle their babies, and this takes its toll on breasts. If you're a breast man, Africa may not be the place for you. I'm a tail-end fanatic, tits are a side-issue as far as I'm concerned.
4) Most women can afford no make-up nor elegant clothing, and if they do they will only venture outdoors after dark, and even then they will take a cab to the disco and back. What you can see in the streets, especially during the day, is not representative of what's available.

Therefore, your first trip to Africa may be anticlimatic. But so would your first trip to Rio de Janeiro after viewing the Rio Carnival footage. After a while, you realise that what matters is not so much the number of stunners you can spot in the street as the number of girls that are willing to have sex with you. And this is the good news about Africa, the one that makes the expensive flights and the overpriced hotels worth the trouble: a white man can negotiate sex with any woman if he plays his cards right.

[XXL]

Flights to most interesting African cities will be expensive because there's virtually no competition between airlines.

For example, capitals in Frenchspeaking central and western Africa are typically serviced by Air France (through Paris!), plus at best one other airline, two in exceptionnal cases. Ouagadougou and Cotonou have only Airfrance. Douala has Airfrance + Brussels Airlines (through Brussels) + Swiss, but even this is not enough to drive prices substantially down, except maybe Swiss's (but Swiss is in financial trouble, I would stay clear of it before its fate becomes clear). Note that tickets are comparatively expensive from Europe too (over 1000 euros), not just for American travellers. Of course, for the latter the strength of the euro against the dollar has made things worse.

The situation wasn't helped by the demise of Air Afrique, Sabena (Belgian Airlines) and Swiss Air a few years ago. Sabena and Swiss Air were Air France's only real competitors on a host of African routes. I was in Douala on a Sabena ticket when Sabena went bust. Luckily, they put me on a later Swiss Air flight at no extra charge. As this were not enough, I had already bought a Swiss Air ticket for Abidjan when Swiss Air went bust as well: I was lucky here too since the travel agent was able to give me a full refund but it was a stressful year for me as regards Africa travel!

On the whole, the recent trend towards privitization and consolidation in the airline industry has played against Africa. In the old days, some national flag carriers (e.g. Sabena to Benin and Ouagadougou) operated frequent flights to some African destinations at little or no profit because it was a way of emphasizing political ties.

For completeness, I should mention that some of those countries operate national Airlines (e.g. Cameroon Airlines through Paris) but I tend to avoid those (Madagascar Airlines though, was OK!). If you don't mind what kind of Airlines you fly and if you're ready to fly any day of the week, maybe you can find some bargains, but even then I doubt it.

Women in Africa may be cheap but neither are flights nor hotels. This is probably why no African place (with the possible exception of Mombasa) has yet develpped into a fully-fledged sex-tourism centre.

[HarryDHo]

I know what you mean about airfare; I had to change my plans because it was just too much for my taste. I found some consolidators who can great deals. Try to plan your trip well in advance.

[J Boy]

I've been thinking about a trip to Africa but the airfares are out of this world. Any ideas on budget travel? I could go to Nigeria, Ghana, Kenya or maybe elsewhere if the price were right.

[GoodEnough]

Actually, most Ghanaians are not Ashantis, as the Ashanti population, though large, constitutes about a 25% minority in Ghana. The Ashantis do dominate Kumasi, which is the capitol of their historic homeland. Harry is correct though, that most Africans are not "pure" tribal types, given the amount of inter-marriage, migration to the larger cities and the breakdown of older social taboos against the conmingling of tribes. Social structures in most sub-Saharan African countries are now more fluid than they were years ago.