Dating Agency Discussions

[Drago]

ABOUT AFF:

I lost time and money with that, and from what I read in this page I am not alone!

But I have some good news too, I tried the Italian FF (I got a 3 month complimentary silver membership) and I already met two ladies, a 45 y.o. from Rome and a 38 y.o. from Parma (I'm from Milan) both very hot, I'm still seing the lady from Parma...

Last year I was on Asian FF, I paid for a silver membership as I was travelling to Shanghai for a couples of times... That was value for money guys... on my first trip I laid down two good looking non-pro's in less than one week and failed to meet a third one for lack of time!!!

In my approach I didn't have to lie, I said I was planning to travel often to Shanghai but not to move there. And that was enough to win their confidence. One was looking for something serious though so she set me off when she realized I wasn't in for long term. The second one was much cooler abut it (she was already dating another foreign guy) and we're still in touch, hope to travel to Shanghai soon!!!

So IMHO if you are lokking for single non pro's don't waste time on explicit adult oriented sites, you will find plenty of them on "normal" dating sites, it's just a matter of spending more time and effort...

But where on earth can you get it for free?

Good hunting

Drago

[Rock Dog]

J Burb

I agree totally with what you said about small amounts of money. Another thing to consider is that this may be her (his?) main focus.

Consider the huge difference in the standards of living in some of these countries. I've been to places where $200 a month is a big deal. At 20 working days a month, that would come out to about $10 for a whole days' work. If one of these online scammers can line up 9 or 10 guys to send them $20 every month, it's just as good as having a job.

I've talked to women online from Nigeria. They told me there are girls who do nothing but sit in the internet cafes all day long scamming for money.

One of the things that I always used to keep in mind was the time difference. If you see some woman who is still online chatting when it's 4 AM local time, you might want to be a little suspicious. I've been to Africa and I can tell you, the "good girls" aren't up at 4 in the morning.

FYI

Rock

[J Burb]

Remember, the requests for small amounts of money are just as important in the scam because they establish a solid payment method between you and the girl before she sets you up for the big hit.

J Burb

[Rock Dog]

J Burb,

I ran into the exact same thing several times. It was on a dating site that I'd joined. This was my first time for online dating but, luckily for me, I'm a fast learner.

Most of the girls I talked to were from overseas. The idea was that they would be more likely to have a better attitude than the women around here. The website even had a chat system so you could talk with other members who were online at the same time.

BAM! The very first girl I ever chatted with tried to hit me up for an airline ticket after just 4 minutes of conversation. Hah, she must have thought I was a sucker. Anyways, I started to see the pattern pretty quickly. Certain girls from certain countries were way more likely to try asking for money.

Some of these "girls" had pics that they lifted off of porn sites. Some were way too professional looking and were likely scanned from some fashion mags. That's one way of spotting the scammers.

I'd advise anyone to be suspicious of any requests for money. These are some of the most popular tactics: I just need a little for my cellphone so we can talk, I need some money for internet time so we can chat, I need some money for my university courses, It's my birthday next week and you should send me a present, my family/sister/mother is having a terrible time please help out, etc. etc.

The simplest policy is to tell them right off the bat that you never send money to someone that you only know from online. The casual scammers will give up on you right away because they'll figure you're not worth their time. Hardcore scammers are a little more tricky because they're willing to put in some more time to convince you that "they're not like that".

Most of these girls are lazy-ass scammers. Some of them are put up to it by their boyfriends, who are lazy-ass scammers. Some of these girls are actually guys (ran into that once or twice). Some of them are visa-hunters who won't ask for money, but will cost you time and effort to bring them over so they can run away as soon as they get here.

There are probably a few genuine ones who just need a little help, but I think these are few and far between.

I did end up sending money to a couple of online aquaintances. However, it was not until after I'd gone over and actually met them in person.

Rock

[The Master]

Hi,

I was also had this experience, once I received an Email doing exactly what you have said here, I know it is a kind of scan, so I waited, and wanted to see what is the next step.

then one day, she is asking me for the money so she can fly over to my country,

Guess what, I said to her, that if you want to fly over, you buy the ticket first using your money, then I will repay you twice the amount when I see you in my country.

Haha, then she just gone.

So take care.

[J Burb]

I just want to warn anyone seeking foriegn women of a scam I saw on TV once. The girl has an attractive picture and eventually wins you over through regular email corrispondence. Once she has your trust and it appears to be going somwhere she may give you some sob story and request small amounts of money from time to time which will seem like peanuts with the currency difference, so you agree. Eventually her goal is to get you to want to transport her here and at that point she will request a substancial chunk of money to tie up her loose ends and make it all happen.

Seems reasonable, afterall she will be your woman right? Wrong, you'v e just been emailing some foriegn dude who submitted a pic of his sister and strung you along for the past six months. Now the contact info they gave you no longer works and you have no recourse becuase they are in a foriegn country. So if any girl in a foriegn ad requests money at anytime, be very suspicious.

J Burb

[El Chapin]

Incaroca & everybody else:

I've registered to cybercupidos.com a couple of days ago, and yesterday my profile was finally activated. Since then i had quite a number of chicas mailing me, some from Germany (just as I am) and some from Latin America, mainly Perú. With one of the "German Latinas" I've even talked already, so I know it's not a fake. She's living some 100 km away from me, but depending on how things develop I guess I'll meet her quiet soon, as I will hopefully some other chicas that live a bit closer.

I will also try to build up some sort of "relationship" with a couple of the Peruanas, as a preparation for my trip there that I plan for this winter.

As of this moment, I'd say that things already look really promising, especially considering that it's all totally free.

I'll keep you updated should some more interesting things develop, until then thanks everybody, especially for pointing this site out in the first place (I learned about it in one of the SA-forums I think).

[Incaroca]

WWW.CYBERCUPIDO.COM


I recommend this site. Its an incredible free dating site with thousands of profiles. Its specialized with latin chicas, specially from Colombia, Peru, Cuba, Spain and Venezuela. There are girls af any age but there are a high quantity of young chicas profiles (from 15 to 30 yo), maybe cos there are more facilities to find a westerner boyfrind, and cos in this countries birth taxes are more elevate that firt world countries, so the variety is ashtonishing.
Its free, but only you have the right to see almost 30 profiles per day, and write 2 diary messages. If you want to write to more girls you have to inscribe it. But I think that 2 beauties per day its enough isnt it??
Some girls post it her photes, but the majority only write her profile.
Is better that you can speak and write in spanish, but maybe you can find some chicas that can speak it in english, specially young university chicas.
Its highly recommendable For people who are looking for a girlfriend, cos all the chicas (specially from Latin America) dont waste the opportunity to write to a westerner or and american. So maybe youll find the girl of your life. Latin chica its totally diferent of first world countries girls. They are sweet, very femenine, polite, and they fight hard four your man (the contrary that in Western Countries), specially if its a stranger. And of course, in sex you will be in other dimension!!
But also there are most girls that only want a short relation, or even are non pros (like I find in Peru). With some presents and sweet words you can conquer them. Its very easy to win the way to her pussy with a dress, flowers or a good restaurant, specially with more hot (in all the senses), like cuba or colombia. Young chicas are the most enthusiastic for a short experiencie, I say by experience.

Good luck!!

[Rock Dog]

Greetings all,

I just noticed this section and decided to take a look to see what's going on. It was surprising to see a section on dating sites here at WSG. Well, time to share my own experiences.

Most dating sites seem to be membership oriented. I have joined a couple just out of interest. It seems like most of them end up being the same old thing after a while. The reason for this is because you tend to find the same three types of women on these sites.

The largest group is comprised of women who are really, really selective about what kind of guy is acceptable to them. Of course "selective" is female code language for being really picky. You can spot them easily by different things that they look for in a man. Serious, yet romantic. Exciting but stable. Young but experienced. Has a sense of humor but doesn't joke around too much. No man could ever achieve the impossible balancing act required to make one of these women happy and that's why you find so many of them on these sites.

Another group is made up of women with baggage. Laden with past heartbreaks, disappointments, cheating and divorces, these women are hoping to find their dream on the internet. The big problem with these ones is that they are highly untrusting because of their past experiences. Many of them never let their guard down because they're afraid of getting burned again. Personally, I don't feel like hanging around month after month trying to make up for the last guy' mistakes and neither should you. These women can be spotted right off the bat by such opening lines as; tired of the games, or players need not apply.

The last group is made up of women who are not attractive. They look in the mirror and they may see an attractive woman, but nobody else does. Reality does not match with their perceived self-image. So, they try dating sites in the hopes that there must be one guy out of the thousands who really will think they are good looking. These are the easiest to spot. Just look carefully at their pic. Check closely to see if it looks really out of date, or only shows her face. Key phrases here are "a few extra pounds", rubenesque, or (my fave) "BBW".

If you REALLY want a good looking women with no issues and who has reasonable expectations, you'll do a lot better with the international dating sites. Chat with some of the women, then go for a trip and visit them in their own country. She'll treat you like a king and go around showing you off to her friends. Believe me, it's a lot more fun and it's really worth it.

My 2 cents worth on this subject,

Rock

[J Burb]

As for Eharmony and some of the other more serious dating sites such as Match.com I'd agree that most of its women are playing for keeps. Some telling signs: You will see a greater amount of 30 somethings than anything (tick,tick,tick). Also take note of thier multiple choice answers to the "want kids" question. 99% of them select "definately". Further reinforcement: Thier answer to any income requirement of thier potential mate often far exceeds thier own saleries. (Sombody has to finance those future kids). Match however sometimes sponsers local events that I've heard people report doing quite well at. Everyone gets nametags and thier name gets put on a list in a central location. You then periodically go check the list during the event to see who signed up to talk to you and go connect. No ads to browse, just primal attraction which is a better casual hook up formula.

As for other pay sites, althogh not as popular as Match, I like the payment structure of Lavalife.com. Free to join & advertise but you prepay for however many credits you'd like to answer ads with. No bullshit time expiration or monthly fees. Also, they have 3 seperate categories of ads: Relationships; Dating; and INTIMATE ENCOUNTERS.

I dont partake in chat rooms for lack of time and priority, but have seen others who are consistantly dedicated hook up multple times. It seems sometimes lesser known local sorces can yeild better results than the big ones.

Watch out for this scam on any site: Someone will answer your ad and after you respond to them with your email contact info you will get a follow up email saying you need to access them through another dating site. Hopefully they dont get your phone number too because its all bogus and just one struggling agencys way of recruiting customers from another.

J Burb

[My Alias]

I've created profiles on several several singles sites, but have tried to avoid getting paid memberships because they're not worth it for me. I live in a small town in a fairly remote area, so I can sometimes figure out who from my area has posted profiles by their photos and information. In most cases, the free memberships are pretty worthless.

If all you can do is the free membership, avoid these sites -- FriendSearch.com, AFF, Babyboomersmeet.com, Professionalsmeet.com, IWantU.com, AmericanSingles.com, UDate.com, Kiss.com, Eroticy.com (after the initial three-day trial) and AmateurMatch.com. Some of those sites will let a female member send you an e-mail and will let you know it arrived, but it won't let you access the message. A few of these sites won't let you view pictures, and some sites won't even let you know which member sent you a message. A note on the Eroticy.com site, the initial three-day trial does allow e-mail access, but at the end of the trial it stops and all you can do is view the profile of someone who sent you a message.

Some sites will let you respond to e-mail messages sent by other members, but won't let you initiate contact if all you have is a free membership. Sites in this category include Match.com, Tickle.com, Date.com, SexyAds.net, Yahoo Personals and DreamMates.com. A few of these sites will let you send a wink or a tease, but not an actual e-mail message. I have not tried the EHarmony.com site, but I've heard it falls into this category.

The only free sites I've seen that allow full e-mail access are BookOfMatches.com and PlentyOfFish.com. The BookOfMatches.com site is pretty straight and doesn't allow any untoward language or sexual content. It even has an automatic editor to its e-mail program and I've had comments such as "nice pussy cat" edited to "nice p***y cat" and the name Alfred Hitchcock edited to Alfred Hitchc***. The PlentyOfFish.com site is a lot looser and seems to be more of a hook-up site. There's even a category for people seeking "Intimate Encounters" and some profiles have nudity in the photos. There isn't a Craigslist.com site for my state, though I've looked at a couple of the Craigslist.com sites for other cities. I've never used Loveaccess.com.

[Macgoo]

Much of the national press has given eHarmony some very good reviews, though I cannot concur personally. Besides, I hear-tell it's for those serious folks looking for the M-word.

[Lew Archer]

I am not sure if these fit into this category, but I have been using free services (Hey, I am cheap in some respects) lately craigslist.org and loveaccess.com

Everyone basically knows about craigslist, it is popular for being popular, more than anything else. Sort of like the flea market for any and everything, at least on the site, people are specific about exactly what they want. I have met some women from the site who were not bad, but no success.

Loveaccess.com seems to be the typical dating site except that you do not need to pay in order to contact/e-mail someone that you are interested in. I am currently working on meeting someone from that site.

Has anyone had any experiences with these sites or know of similar ones that they can pass along?

[Macgoo]

Brethren,

FYI, I noticed here that some are inquiring about AFF, and want to add my "Dos Pesos". AFF is a slick site that really feeds on its self by creating a community of hopefuls. My experience is that you can indeed find that jewel, but it requires creativity. I have found a few cuties, all married, by joining in the chat rooms with the objective of making the women laugh. They seem to have a weakness for wit, and will often make contact to let you know. My most notable episodes were cultivated by returning to the same room, flirting, but not pouncing as soon as she begins to flirt in return. Often, I will simply take note of her handle, and return the next day or two to continue the same. Another advantage of AFF is that when women find you interesting, they have ways of letting you know; via pm, invites ect.

If you join, never engage in a pissing contest with the competition. Many of the women on AFF are regulars and they do take note of what you say, and how you say it! And, do get YIM or another instant messenger so that you can communicate privately. The downside to AFF, in my view, is that the site is chuck full of 'large' women who are not honest about their weight.

Now, as an alternative to AFF, there is a site called Paltalk (note: some imitators with similar name). They have several rooms, many for adults, but some for teens and special interest. The beauty of Paltalk is that many women use there Cams while on-line and mic for audio too. This way, you can actually see who you're talking with; and if bold, let them see you too. There are two down sides to Paltalk, as I see it; First; the women are often miles away. Second, when you find a 'looker', all the other guys are shooting their best shot. The pace is fast, the energy is high, but if you can isolate a cutie it's worth your while.

I find Paltalk to be quite interesting because the women will perform sex acts right on camera, they are often in various state of dress. Currently, working on a cutie that I met through this site but I think she wants more that I have to offer; you see - I lied! Oh well!

Let me know what you think.

[Reno Dude]

I've been on AFF myself. It probably does work best for swinging couples and single women looking for couples or being real, damn picky.
I tend to believe that it's a scam for single men. It could be done easily, if you know what I mean. I've gotten a couple of emails back, but they say auto response on them. ???? Doesn't people read their emails anymore?
I've paid one time, and that will be the last.
There is a service - I don't know how long its been around - called Web Date. The service has been free so far, and you can cam with other people. You'll have to see it to know what I mean. The address for this service is:
webdate.com

It's been interesting so far because you do find some of the women at times flashing their tits. (:

Reno Dude