Dating Agency Discussions

[Darkseid]

@darkseid

This site is only tricking men to invest their money to get a silver or gold membership. Don't spend your money for this crap. This is not a serious site to meet women. They are sending a lot of emails to male members to make them curious. But the girls are not real.

Blue Eyes

Thanks Blue Eyes. I suspected they were a scam as I was scammed into AFF and asianfriendfinder with fake girls. These scamsites do a great disservice to the online dating industry because people give up hope looking for the real ones. Then when you upgrade, you get more fakes like girls getting you to masturbate over their paid website pics, webcam chats or movies with girls that you'll never meet face to face. They may send e-mails but they are probably guys writing them posing as these girls with phony photos. One such scam in AFF I fell into was a "girl" (possibly a guy getting his kicks outs of posing as a girl) from Michigan that I e-mailed for months then when it was time to meet, "she" said "she" hit a deer and couldn't make it and that "she" had to put her van in the shop for 2 months. 2 months later "she" made another excuse and said that the shop didn't fix "her" van properly and it broke down on the highway and "she" had to get it towed. What a waste of 4 months membership!

I know there are real ones out there but I am more cautious and thanks to you guys, I can weed out the bad ones. If you guys encounter a real dating site with a real encounter where you get what you see, please let me know. Thanks.

[Brotherrabitt]

Hi guys

another crap site, after few days you can longer read the mails sent to you by other members or send them replies.

so no luck again.

however okcupid.com is still doing a fine job for me, I am now in contact with a few ladies in central europe, will see what develops.

have fun

pleasure

[Blue Eyes]

@darkseid

This site is only tricking men to invest their money to get a silver or gold membership. Don't spend your money for this crap. This is not a serious site to meet women. They are sending a lot of emails to male members to make them curious. But the girls are not real.

Blue Eyes

[Brotherrabitt]

Gents

I have been looking for free online dating sites and have found erocity.com. I subscribed and without having to pay I can search and send messages through this site. If there is a financial catch I think it is when you want to further look at the pictures of the members. This is not a great disadvantage for me, but might be for some of you.

As I have just sent a number of messages, I have no idea about the return.

My apologies if this info is already widely available on this thread. I did a search on erocity but got no posts containing this word, so I assume it has not been mentioned before.

Have fun

Pleasure

[Darkseid]

Hi guys,

anyone tried this dating agency. www.sexsearch.com. If so, post your report on this one. I am hesitant of joining even the silver memebrship, much less gold.

Thanks

Jeff

[Mahku]

Hi all,

I've been having it out on a feminazi blog about this IMBRA law. Even though I've been using restraint and trying to argue in a reasoned manner I've just about been kicked out. No matter, the basketball's on now and I've got better things to do than suck witch tit.

PM me for the link if you want. I'm not sure if it's ok to post it here. You can even post a little and wind up the prick moderator.

[Buzz00]

I thought this might be of some interest to the on-liners out there,

From CNN : Dating on-line for the over 50's

NEW YORK (AP) -- Susan Gladstone's moment came when she turned 50. Divorced, with two children, she was getting tired of asking friends to fix her up and being told they just couldn't think of anyone. And so, she turned to online dating.

Two and a half years and dozens of dates later, Gladstone, an event planner in Miami, hasn't yet found her perfect soul mate. But she's had lots of enjoyable dinner dates, met fascinating people from around the globe, and to her delight has made a number of lasting friendships.

Gladstone is part of a growing trend: people in their 50s and beyond searching the Internet for romance, companionship, sometimes marriage. As in any age group, there are ups and downs. There's the old stale-photo trick (it's him, but 20 years and 30 pounds ago), or the date who asks right away how much money you have, or the ones who say how fabulous you are and then disappear. Still, many older online daters say that even if they haven't found true love -- yet -- it's been worthwhile.

"I had minor back surgery recently," Gladstone says, "and I got about a half-dozen e-mails from men I'd met online, checking up on how I was! Even if I never meet my partner, I'll be happy for the wonderful friends I've made."

The main reason more mature singles are going online for love is simple: more widespread access to the Internet, hence more familiarity with online dating. And dating sites are catering to older members. Yahoo Personals, for example, has an advice column for users over 50, with tips -- on everything from etiquette to sexual health -- for those whose romantic radar may be a tad rusty.

Another reason: "Baby boomers are seeing their children use online dating, and watching their success at finding mates," says Rochelle Adams, spokesperson for Yahoo Personals. "They're seeing that it's not such a crazy concept."

Match.com, another large online dating site, says boomers (which it defines as ages 45-59) are its fastest growing segment -- they've increased by at least 350 percent since 2000, and now number 3 million -- or 22 percent of total users.

Spokesperson Kristin Kelly says older users tend to be much clearer and more realistic about what they want: "There's no substitute for the wisdom gained with age."

Claudia Polley certainly knows what she wants. The beauty of online dating, says the 56-year-old museum consultant from Washington, D.C., is that you can tell right away if someone can write well -- a key test for her. "If they can't spell, and they start out with 'Hiya!' -- well, I wish them a wonderful life, but not with me."

Polley's work takes her around the globe -- Africa, Europe, the Caribbean. "It would be wonderful to share that with someone," she says. Aside from intelligence and flexibility, she looks for wit and humor. Physical appearance is less important. (Surprise! Surveys say appearance is more important to male users.)

So far, Polley's had no major disasters. There have, though, been disappointing moments: "You want someone to be fabulous, and they're not." And so, says Polley, who was briefly married, then widowed, "You just have to say, "OK, well, that's all right. We'll keep looking." (For inspiration she has her daughter, who met her husband online. The first grandchild is due in July.)

Rudy DiLieto is one of the rarer ones: At 51, he's never married. "I wish I had an explanation for that," he says. A New Yorker who works in the fashion industry, he figures he simply enjoyed his independence too much over the years. Now, though, he's more inclined for something serious: "I am looking for that one last romance," his profile reads.

"I absolutely adore women," DiLieto confides, and he goes on at least 10 Internet dates a year. A yearlong relationship ended when the woman wanted to get married, and DiLieto wasn't ready yet. Now, he's happily embarking on a new online courtship.

The only downside, DiLieto says, is when people misrepresent themselves -- as in the old-photo trick. "Why lie?" he asks. "It's illogical." One woman a few years back told DiLieto that if she'd given her real age and weight, he wouldn't have called her. His answer? "That's correct."

Ask Jeffrey Balash, a 57-year-old private capital investor in Los Angeles, how many online dates he's had and he can't even count -- a couple hundred is his best estimate. Logging on is a daily habit.

Balash, who's divorced, says a friend described online dating well: "The odds are good, but the goods are odd." At this age, he explains, "you have a lot of people where there's a REASON they're not in relationships."

He also bemoans the lack of common courtesy that comes with a medium as anonymous as the Internet. "People can be flaky. They don't call you back, they don't show up for a coffee date." And there's another problem with dating in Los Angeles, Balash finds: an excessive emphasis on material wealth.

But there have been successes, too, like one 9-month relationship that ended, but "we're still great friends." And sometimes, even when a date doesn't work out, the woman will fix him up with one of her girlfriends. "What could be a stronger endorsement than that?" he asks.

Of course, it's all a question of chemistry. The spark you perceived during countless e-mail chats can simply fizzle upon meeting the person in the flesh.

Gladstone has traveled to another city to meet someone, only to feel no connection. Now, she's resolved to take fewer such risks.

And for Balash, there was the moment he suspected his coffee date was a transsexual.

"You could tell from the hands," he said.

[Jambo]

You seem to be very against a firm obeying the laws of the countries in which it does business.

Woah now, which is it? If Cupid Media believes they are doing business in my home state, then they should be collecting state sales tax and sending it in.

Cupid Media (FilipinaHeart.com and others), is an Australian regustered business, collects Australian sales tax, and I presume their servers are based there as well. They should be minding Australian law. Like, gambling is illegal in my state, but guess what? And I suppose all those bar owners in Tijihuana are afraid they will be arrested in the US for selling alcohol to US minors.

Um the Google thing. Perhaps you misunderstood. Google.com does not censor content for anyone (unless the user selects it in Images search for example)--not for free. Why should they? They are a California-based company. Google made a greedy deal with China to provide censored content, persumably with servers located there. China had been blocking access to Google.com from China.

I am going to have my membership fees back from Cupid Media. And I will not become a member of any other site that would give customer privacy such a low priority. Its a shame US-based companies may be put out by this silly little grandstanding law. They should be locating offshore anyway.

[George90]

It is unacceptable that they would presume to collect this information--for whatever reason. And its unaccaptable that they, a foreign-based web site, would be so quick to recognize a foreign law.
Its their business if they want to minimize their risk and obey any ruling from foreign countries. But I am not going to support them. They need to decide if they want my business, and perhaps other US customers or not.

Jambo,

You seem to be very against a firm obeying the laws of the countries in which it does business. I guess you were also very upset about Google and Microsoft obeying Chinese laws to censor certain websites there?

Are you also upset at the countries which pass laws for foreigners to obey? Are you upset with Bush for signing this law which does require foreign based firms to collection criminal back ground information on its US clients? Did you know that IMBRA also prohibits US based dating sites from doing business with foreign nationals?

The reason why those foreign firns are obeying this US law is that of they don't, they can be arrested if they ever travel to or through the US. They also might be arrested in allied countries of the US and extradited here.

Instead of griping at those firms, gripe at the people who wrote and passed this law. There is a online petition someplace; why don't you sign it?

[Jambo]

Here is a recent responce from Filipinaheart.com regarding the Marriage Broker Act. I made a post earlier regarding this issue in the Philippines section at
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ead.php?t=1001

Thank you for your email regarding the new US law for online dating companies to collect criminal background information from US citizens who contact foreign nationals.

We have just learnt that Judge Clarence Cooper of the United States District court has granted a temporary injunction against the United States government from enforcing the International Marriage Broker Regulation Act of 2005 pending a further hearing on March 20th 2006 to rule on the constitutional validity of the above law.

Therefore, any of our US members who had been affected by the above law will for now be able to continue to use the website without the need to complete any IMBRA background information. We are hopeful that the United States District Court will confirm the unconstitutional nature of this law on March 20th and will keep you informed of the status of this regulation.

I replied that I am still expecting a refund of my fees (I renewed for 6 months just before they started collecting data). I will get a refund or I will do a chargeback on them.

It is unacceptable that they would presume to collect this information--for whatever reason. And its unaccaptable that they, a foreign-based web site, would be so quick to recognize a foreign law. Who else would they share my contact data and credit card information with? Their TOS asks me to give up pretty much any expectation of privacy.

Its their business if they want to minimize their risk and obey any ruling from foreign countries. But I am not going to support them. They need to decide if they want my business, and perhaps other US customers or not.

[Brotherrabitt]

Hi guys

this might be a repeat of info already provided by others, my apologies if this is the case. Got a hangover and can not be bothered to re-read the whole thread.

If you are looking for dates in the UK, try this free site (you need to register but you can send a limited number of messages per 24hrs) www.supereva.com

You can also try: http://www.flirtbox.co.uk/, also free and no limit on the number of messages.

Have fun

Pleasure

[DJ FourMoney]

I have to agree with you on that DJ FourMoney, one of the truest things I have read here. Of course looks are important but that only holds for the initial stage of the relationship. I am often surprised at what some guys think passes as a decent conversation.

I find that really rich people and really good looking people tend to be some of the most boring people on the planet.

I think life experiences broaden the mind and personality.

If your not the best looking person then you have to rely on your personality to win people over. You make an effort to try and learn how to talk to women, you have to its vital.

When your looks alone get you that girls number you never learned what to say and what not to say in order to get those digits. I also notice that for ego purposes good looking men tend to target vulerable types, easy prey so to speak.

Just like some hot women expect men to grovel at their feet just by their mere presents. Those women have no interest in anything outside of clothes, shoes, money and makeup. So unless you a flaming gay man you have nothing in common with these type of women.

Just makes dating a sorted mess doesn't it? It can be a drag but I try to think positive, it can be a fun ride.

[Member #1005]

Women like attractive men, but you also have to be able to hold a conversation. Some guys talk about themselves too much, etc, etc. But I have also met women that generally weren't about much either. All they did was work and come home, no interest, no hobbies. There full time job outside of work was finding a husband and nothing more.

I have to agree with you on that DJ FourMoney, one of the truest things I have read here. Of course looks are important but that only holds for the initial stage of the relationship. I am often surprised at what some guys think passes as a decent conversation.

[DJ FourMoney]

I have been online since the early-90's and I rationalized early on that the internet could be used as effective tool in dating and I have used it with varying rates of sucess since that time.

My dating pool is somewhat narrow and only recently have I been able to use dating sites or web portals that cater to this specifically.

It started with chatrooms on AOL (back when they used to charge for IM's), progressed to sites like Blackplanet.com (kind of a oximoron) and now I use sites like Interracialmatch.com, Loveiscolorblind.com and others like them almost exclusively.

Yes I get the usual "few extra pounds" and "BBW" ads that pop up, but generally there alot of hot women out there. Only recently I have been able to travel on a regular basis and that has prevent even higher levels of success.

So I agree, you have to be able to travel because somebody you might connect with, will live from a 10 miles to well over 10,000 miles away. I live in the LA and my prospective pool is larger than, say some rural town in the midwest, but the exact opposite might be the case for a young lady out there.

I have known for a long, long time that tmost of Western Europe is very fertile for the type of woman I seek. Problem was always affording the plane ticket. Since nobody offered and I never asked, the relationships just fizzled away.

Now that I have some time off from driving trucks, which did allow me to see a couple of women outside of California, I plan on extending my search to Europe, but I'm going to detour to South America first.

So I have been lining up some talent from Germany and surrounding areas, but I haven't sent out any emails yet, because I want to secure my travel plans before hand.

I'll also agree, I have met a suprising amount of men that have trouble speaking to women. Its amazing that they have even gotten this far.

Women like attractive men, but you also have to be able to hold a conversation. Some guys talk about themselves too much, etc, etc. But I have also met women that generally weren't about much either. All they did was work and come home, no interest, no hobbies. There full time job outside of work was finding a husband and nothing more.

You run it all types out there.

All I can say is to keep trying and if you find that you get no repeat dates from perspective women, then the problem is you and not them. Email replies as stated before is just a numbers thing and even if you get a good reply back, in my experience you can still end up being father down the list than you think.

You have to do everything possible to increase your odds of finding somebody, even if its only for an intimate encounter...

About AFF, I have found it is worthless if you don't have a Silver or Gold Membership. You have to mass email perspective women in hopes that one will hit. I usually find that men are often times more flakly than women are for encounters, so don't be a no-show!

E-Harmony is bit too rich for my blood at the moment but I'll give it a shot in the near future.

[DJ FourMoney]

My experiences with the online dating have been mostly good. I always search out the free sites in the various countries I am interested in. Normally a free site starts up and all the ladies from the area sign up, then as it becomes more popular they either charge a fee or end up a part of match.com. I have a young Slovenian friend here in NYC who stays in touch with her freinds back home and lets me know about new EE sites. The mejor draw back is the language barrier, so I have found it is easier to stick with spanish speaking countries. Several years ago I discovered latinamericancupid.com and it was a great free site, with mostly women from Columbia and Peru. Unfortunately now you must pay.

Alp

Funny, I found that site in prep for my mission to South America (5 days in SP, 5 says in BsA) so I wanted to hook up some non-pro action for site seeing and other GFE shhhh.

Only reply I have gotten so far is from a 37 yr old Columbian with no picture.

I clicked on alot of cuties from Argentina, but so far no replies. Its only been about 4-5 days though.

Its slowly looking like whole p4p might be good in South America for Brothas, it might not be so hot for non-pros.

We shall see though.