Living in Brazil

[FuckAfMedDig]

Sundays rally in Copa was related to the issues in Israel. I was catching some rays on the beach, and all was peaceful.

First of all they were running in packs of 25 + through busses at nossa and down Ipanema beach scoping out victims and also down the boardwalk by Copa taking what they could-security guards had the batons ready in the doorways on nossa-take my word for it-its real. Weekends especially.

Urca as well is experiencing many robberies-dudes on motorbikes robbing bystanders, people being forced to cashpoints etc-usual stuff.

Just because you don't see it exactly while you're there on the beach doesn't mean anything.

Same in Botafogo by beach-many bike robbers.

Economy is slowing down and prices are going up. People take what they can. Rio is great but trust me reality can hit you hard here.

[Jan 156]

Actually it was very informative.

I thought so too. I thought you were being sarcastic. Maybe I should take a break.

Tchau.

[PatmarBeleza1]

Actually it was very informative.

Come on. Patmar. I'll always give what advice I can to someone wanting to know their way about, but I'm not going to expose a personal relationship that benefits me greatly just for ten thousand ISG readers to turn up and want a place to take their puppies. It's akin to saying, "Hey what's the phone number of that non-pro you were with?" It's not going to do anyone else any good but it will ruin a good thing for one person. The only point in mentioning it is to indicate how the situation can be if you work at it yourself and how it can indeed be worthwhile. (No, I don't normally stay in favelas, but I do rent at knock-down rates occasionally via personally developed friendships. People that don't make a connection to mongering. So posting details to people I don't know well through actual, not internet, friendship is silly, and putting it on a public mongering board is daft. I don't have the connections Sperto has, but I can see the point, and it is well worth building *local* friendships and contacts while in Rio iMHO.)

[Jan 156]

That's very informative.

Come on. Patmar. I'll always give what advice I can to someone wanting to know their way about, but I'm not going to expose a personal relationship that benefits me greatly just for ten thousand ISG readers to turn up and want a place to take their puppies. It's akin to saying, "Hey what's the phone number of that non-pro you were with?" It's not going to do anyone else any good but it will ruin a good thing for one person. The only point in mentioning it is to indicate how the situation can be if you work at it yourself and how it can indeed be worthwhile. (No, I don't normally stay in favelas, but I do rent at knock-down rates occasionally via personally developed friendships. People that don't make a connection to mongering. So posting details to people I don't know well through actual, not internet, friendship is silly, and putting it on a public mongering board is daft. I don't have the connections Sperto has, but I can see the point, and it is well worth building *local* friendships and contacts while in Rio iMHO.)

[Azn Safado]

So I witnessed a bunch of arrestaos on ipanema beach, copacabana and all along nossa senhora and they were stopping busses, robbing. Big problem on weekends-not safe. Hundreds of kids. Also on botagofo beach I saw robbers on motorbikes roll up. And a suicide in laranjeira. Someone jumped onto pavement from high-rise, police didn't even cover woman's body. Feels tense in city.

I was walking on that sidewalk on Rua do Catete next to Largo do Machado on Monday and saw that dead body on the sidewalk. By the time I arrived, the area where she fell had been sectioned off with some yellow tape and two policemen were standing over the body. It had been covered with a black bag but you could still see her arm and fingers sticking out. It was pretty gruesome!

[Mangera]

This past Sunday August 03? Was it the part of Nossa Senhora closer to Ipanema? I didn't hear anything about this. I know there was a rally down by Copacabana Palace but it was political and I didn't see many people out around Lunchtime.

Sundays rally in Copa was related to the issues in Israel. I was catching some rays on the beach, and all was peaceful.

[Eric Cartman]

So I witnessed a bunch of arrestaos on ipanema beach, copacabana and all along nossa senhora and they were stopping busses, robbing. Big problem on weekends-not safe. Hundreds of kids. Also on botagofo beach I saw robbers on motorbikes roll up. And a suicide in laranjeira. Someone jumped onto pavement from high-rise, police didn't even cover woman's body. Feels tense in city.

This past Sunday August 03? Was it the part of Nossa Senhora closer to Ipanema? I didn't hear anything about this. I know there was a rally down by Copacabana Palace but it was political and I didn't see many people out around Lunchtime.

[FuckAfMedDig]

So I witnessed a bunch of arrestaos on ipanema beach, copacabana and all along nossa senhora and they were stopping busses, robbing. Big problem on weekends-not safe. Hundreds of kids. Also on botagofo beach I saw robbers on motorbikes roll up. And a suicide in laranjeira. Someone jumped onto pavement from high-rise, police didn't even cover woman's body. Feels tense in city.

[PatmarBeleza1]

That's very informative.

"So how does one go about getting the accomodation that you stayed in?" Do you seriously think I'm that stupid that I'll give up my place on this forum?
I never stay in hostels, but there are lots of them in most Zona Sul favelas. What I heard they are quite expensive.
Nice view of Vidigal. No, I didn't stay in Vidigal.
Without connections it's not easy to find a nice accomodation at a good rate in a nice Zona Sul favela. You'll have a lot of competition from brazilians looking for a place to stay.

[Sperto]

So how does one go about getting the accomodation that you stayed in?
http://www.mulattahostel.com/#!home / mainPage.
A search for vidigal hostels turns up some hostels such as those, above. But a love motel is cheaper pernoite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAisOJvLLU8
Is this the view on the way to your place of residence?

"So how does one go about getting the accomodation that you stayed in?" Do you seriously think I'm that stupid that I'll give up my place on this forum?
I never stay in hostels, but there are lots of them in most Zona Sul favelas. What I heard they are quite expensive.
Nice view of Vidigal. No, I didn't stay in Vidigal.
Without connections it's not easy to find a nice accomodation at a good rate in a nice Zona Sul favela. You'll have a lot of competition from brazilians looking for a place to stay.

[PatmarBeleza1]

So how does one go about getting the accomodation that you stayed in?

http://www.mulattahostel.com/#!home / mainPage.

A search for vidigal hostels turns up some hostels such as those, above. But a love motel is cheaper pernoite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAisOJvLLU8

Is this the view on the way to your place of residence?

The last years when I've been in Rio I stayed in a favela in Zona Sul. At least two months each trip. I love it.

The advantages I get when staying in this favela are several:
* Cheap accommodation.
* All the necessities like Wifi, cable-TV etc.
* Fantastic views.
* Terrace on the roof. Great for churrascos and parties.
* Safety. I feel totally safe there. Before the favela was pacified there were some armed bandits. Quite harmless though. Now there are a lot of UPP police. The last years there have been very few shoot-outs.
* The people. Almost without exceptions the people are very friendly, helpful, polite and generous. Everybody knows everybody.
* I've never had any bad experience of being a gringo. On the contrary.
* The girls. Tons of beautiful girls. The majority very flirty, the young ones as well as the old ones.
* The food. Lots of options for eating. Giant R$4-burgers, great sushi and even a prize-winning restaurant.
* Many small bars, some with live-bands and dancing.
* Big parties, bailles, every now and then.
* Lots of options for working out. Gym, MMA, Muay Thai, Capoeira and aerobics.
* Excellent exercise going up- and downhills a couple of times every day.
* Micos. Lots of small cute wild monkeys coming to visit your home hoping to get some fruits.
* 7 minutes quick walk and I'm on the beach. On the bike even less.
* You have the options of combi and moto-taxi to get uphills (I personally boycott those as I refuse to pay when I can walk).

The disadvantages:
* Even though there are basic food stuff to be bought in the favela you'll have to do most of the shopping down in Copacabana.
* It can be sweaty walking uphills with your shoppingbags when the sun is strong.
* Everybody knows everybody. It can also be a bad thing as people will know everything you're up to, e.g if you're being with different girls.
* The girls. Mess with more than one girl and you'll have a big jealousy drama.
* The girls. Many flirty girls have boyfriends. If you don't know which ones you'll get an enemy.
* Safety. Shoot-outs happens even though quite rare. This year the police shot one bandit right outside my door (an outside-bandit).

Finally I can't say I recommend staying in a favela if you're down for a short mongering trip. It will be more convenient renting an apartment in Copacabana. I never brought a GP to the favela. The locals would immediately recognize her being a puta and that would ruin my good reputation.

[Sperto]

Usually people hope to get out of the hood. This guy wants to move INTO the hood. Boy I tell you the truth is stranger than fiction.

The last years when I've been in Rio I stayed in a favela in Zona Sul. At least two months each trip. I love it.

The advantages I get when staying in this favela are several:
* Cheap accommodation.
* All the necessities like Wifi, cable-TV etc.
* Fantastic views.
* Terrace on the roof. Great for churrascos and parties.
* Safety. I feel totally safe there. Before the favela was pacified there were some armed bandits. Quite harmless though. Now there are a lot of UPP police. The last years there have been very few shoot-outs.
* The people. Almost without exceptions the people are very friendly, helpful, polite and generous. Everybody knows everybody.
* I've never had any bad experience of being a gringo. On the contrary.
* The girls. Tons of beautiful girls. The majority very flirty, the young ones as well as the old ones.
* The food. Lots of options for eating. Giant R$4-burgers, great sushi and even a prize-winning restaurant.
* Many small bars, some with live-bands and dancing.
* Big parties, bailles, every now and then.
* Lots of options for working out. Gym, MMA, Muay Thai, Capoeira and aerobics.
* Excellent exercise going up- and downhills a couple of times every day.
* Micos. Lots of small cute wild monkeys coming to visit your home hoping to get some fruits.
* 7 minutes quick walk and I'm on the beach. On the bike even less.
* You have the options of combi and moto-taxi to get uphills (I personally boycott those as I refuse to pay when I can walk).

The disadvantages:
* Even though there are basic food stuff to be bought in the favela you'll have to do most of the shopping down in Copacabana.
* It can be sweaty walking uphills with your shoppingbags when the sun is strong.
* Everybody knows everybody. It can also be a bad thing as people will know everything you're up to, e.g if you're being with different girls.
* The girls. Mess with more than one girl and you'll have a big jealousy drama.
* The girls. Many flirty girls have boyfriends. If you don't know which ones you'll get an enemy.
* Safety. Shoot-outs happens even though quite rare. This year the police shot one bandit right outside my door (an outside-bandit).

Finally I can't say I recommend staying in a favela if you're down for a short mongering trip. It will be more convenient renting an apartment in Copacabana. I never brought a GP to the favela. The locals would immediately recognize her being a puta and that would ruin my good reputation.

[Mr Enternational]

Usually people hope to get out of the hood. This guy wants to move INTO the hood. Boy I tell you the truth is stranger than fiction.

[Sperto]

I was wondering how much of a good / bad idea it would be to rent an apartment in a favela in Rio (probably Rocinha). The beach in So Conrado, which I read is only a 15 min or so walk downhill from the favela, seems like literally one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen in my life (looks better than Ipanema). So I was just wondering how safe it would be. I know Rocinha is one of the safest favela's. Also, would girls have any problem coming back to an apartment in a favela (if they're not from a favela (or that favela)? Would website girls come to the favela (especially the more "upscale" girls)?. It just seems SO much cheaper than getting an apartment in Rio proper, especially since I'm looking to hang out for a month (and the monthly rents in Rocinha seem very reasonable. With full kitchens and everything I'd need).

Also, there's the issue of ATM machines. I know there are ATM machines in the favela, but it seems like a risky thing. Or is it? Would it be better just get one's money needed all at once somewhere else in Rio first?. Would I have to realistically worry about someone breaking into the apartment once people quickly learn there's a gringo staying there?

What is the P4P scene. Is there one? I mean is there like Vila Mimosa type area within the favela?. Is it just easy enough to find a girl at some funk party? I assume the girls that live there don't want to get a bad reputation and maybe they venture out of the favela to do their "business".

There are safer favelas than Rocinha. Vidigal would be a better option if you want to enjoy a good view and a nice beach. If the favela is pacified the girl wouldn't have any real problems coming or leaving, but she might not be very happy going there. Upscale girl escort girl won't go there.

Forget P4 P in the favelas. There are lots of flirty girls in the favelas, but you better be very careful when flirting with girls inside the favela or you might get yourself into serious trouble.

[Exec Talent]

I guess you could call me a frequent favela visitor and have been to most of them as well as to various areas of the North zone. Gringos living in favelas is now pretty common. Even before the pacification, hostels had opened up in favelas. The key is to go with the flow and get along. Notice who likes to be social and who doesn't. Keep your nose in your own business. Do not discuss your comings and goings and tell no one when you will be leaving. Don't know if escort or Balcony girls will go there and even if they would how cool it would be to be known as the gringo who is here to bang chicks. Do be aware that many of the girls are younger than they appear. The last thing you want to do is hit on some drug dealer's little sister.

You might also want to consider Niteroi. I lived with a girl there and was treated very well by the locals.