Living in Brazil

[Bravo]

I was wondering how much of a good / bad idea it would be to rent an apartment in a favela in Rio (probably Rocinha). The beach in So Conrado, which I read is only a 15 min or so walk downhill from the favela, seems like literally one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen in my life (looks better than Ipanema). So I was just wondering how safe it would be. I know Rocinha is one of the safest favela's. Also, would girls have any problem coming back to an apartment in a favela (if they're not from a favela (or that favela)? Would website girls come to the favela (especially the more "upscale" girls)?. It just seems SO much cheaper than getting an apartment in Rio proper, especially since I'm looking to hang out for a month (and the monthly rents in Rocinha seem very reasonable. With full kitchens and everything I'd need).
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Some interesting questions, I am curious to see what the responses will be.

[Cartola28]

I was wondering how much of a good / bad idea it would be to rent an apartment in a favela in Rio (probably Rocinha). The beach in So Conrado, which I read is only a 15 min or so walk downhill from the favela, seems like literally one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen in my life (looks better than Ipanema). So I was just wondering how safe it would be. I know Rocinha is one of the safest favela's. Also, would girls have any problem coming back to an apartment in a favela (if they're not from a favela (or that favela)? Would website girls come to the favela (especially the more "upscale" girls)?. It just seems SO much cheaper than getting an apartment in Rio proper, especially since I'm looking to hang out for a month (and the monthly rents in Rocinha seem very reasonable. With full kitchens and everything I'd need).

Also, there's the issue of ATM machines. I know there are ATM machines in the favela, but it seems like a risky thing. Or is it? Would it be better just get one's money needed all at once somewhere else in Rio first?. Would I have to realistically worry about someone breaking into the apartment once people quickly learn there's a gringo staying there?

What is the P4P scene. Is there one? I mean is there like Vila Mimosa type area within the favela?. Is it just easy enough to find a girl at some funk party? I assume the girls that live there don't want to get a bad reputation and maybe they venture out of the favela to do their "business".

[Bootie26]

I think the nature of the economy is a barrier to many ordinary Brasilians. Yet just this week I have encountered both incredible generosity and very hardboiled conniving. It's hard to keep level-headed sometimes. One warm-hearted individual does tend to make up somewhat for a dozen c-u-n-*-s. And make me feel better about the world.

With all do respect buddy, I don't blame you both for such views but trust me I lived in both the US and UK for an aggregate of 2 decades. Mind you i love both nations to BITS and their people. Put the average person of those in Brazilian shoes and I would bet my life these Brazilian "assholes" would be ANGELS in comparision.

Last night my Turkish looking half Iraqi / Syrian ass got invited to a block party just outside a Favela. Felt so welcome with zero language and handing over my brand new S5 to google translate to communicate. Hell a lot of them before approaching me even thought I was Argentinian, yet all was super cool. Perspective my friend ALWAYS. Got to at least "attempt" to put your self in the other shoes. Trust me we all products of our enviroment. And in such "tropical heaven" no matter how suffering such beauty will rub in.

[Jan 156]

The majority have a very selfish what is in it for me attitude which is what holds them back.

I think the nature of the economy is a barrier to many ordinary Brasilians. Yet just this week I have encountered both incredible generosity and very hardboiled conniving. It's hard to keep level-headed sometimes. One warm-hearted individual does tend to make up somewhat for a dozen c-u-n-*-s. And make me feel better about the world.

[Mangera]

In my neighborhood in Zona Sul, it has been very quiet both day and night. Today, with the World Cup ending music is once again playing and people are once again smiling. The streets in Copa are crowded with drunk Argentinians. Most Brazilians I talk with are looking for German shirts to wear today. There really is no love lost. Brazilian women, in particular, hate their snobbish neighbors to the south.

I was in Angra this weekend Once Germany won the game, I really believe the fireworks that were intended for brazil (which never happenned) were used to celebrate Argentina's loss or Germany's win. Whatever floats your boat. Definitely, no love lost.

[Exec Talent]

In my neighborhood in Zona Sul, it has been very quiet both day and night. Today, with the World Cup ending music is once again playing and people are once again smiling. The streets in Copa are crowded with drunk Argentinians. Most Brazilians I talk with are looking for German shirts to wear today. There really is no love lost. Brazilian women, in particular, hate their snobbish neighbors to the south.

[Exec Talent]

I was discussing this issue with a good friend just last week. His thoughts were "Most rich people are very intelligent, You don't become wealthy by being an idiot. So if they are willing to spend money buying up property, wouldn't it makes sense that they know what they are doing? They aren't going to spend millions on apartments in Copa and Ipanema if they think that once the Games are over, that the property value will plummet. ".

I really didn't have a response to that because it makes alot of sense. Maybe they know something that we don't know.

In the usual fashion, Brazilians have and are screwing themselves.

They are asking for such outrageous rents on commercial buildings that companies are abandoning entire buildings right and left. I walk a lot around Rio and am amazed at the number of buildings for sale or lease. A few years back I was interested in the Kiosks on the beach. At that time they wanted are $225,000 for five years and you still had to pay rent and utilities. Then the government decided that even more palms should be greased and turned the administration over to a private company who then was charging are $400,000 for five years. As a result, most operators closed and the Copa beach is dominated by corporations that can write the investment off as advertising and lose money on operations. You also will notice that there is only one brand of cachaça, Ypioca, allowed to be sold.

Every once in awhile I meet a bright light here, but most of the time Brazilians operate in the darkness. The majority have a very selfish what is in it for me attitude which is what holds them back.

On another note, if you are coming to Brazil and staying at a private apartment be sure that your bed lines and towels are clean. I have been getting reports that turnover is so tight that those renting rooms and apartments are not changing towels and bed sheets.

[Bravo]

About Housing, everywhere in Latin America is in a real estate bubble. Just wait and scoop up property cheap..

I was discussing this issue with a good friend just last week. His thoughts were "Most rich people are very intelligent, You don't become wealthy by being an idiot. So if they are willing to spend money buying up property, wouldn't it makes sense that they know what they are doing? They aren't going to spend millions on apartments in Copa and Ipanema if they think that once the Games are over, that the property value will plummet.".

I really didn't have a response to that because it makes alot of sense. Maybe they know something that we don't know.

[Torgoch]

I would not have wasted my time posting if this was just another pharmacy (which is all Pacheco is). It is a discount pharmacy.

I wasn't trying to disagree with you. I was just trying to provide some information which may be of use to others by quoting a price I paid recently.

[Exec Talent]

Another option is Pacheco. I paid around are R$20 for generic Vit see in April.

I would not have wasted my time posting if this was just another pharmacy (which is all Pacheco is). It is a discount pharmacy.

[Torgoch]

www.venancio.com.br

Significant savings on most items. Also stock many more items than most pharmacies in Rio. Various locations.

Another option is Pacheco. I paid around are R$20 for generic Vit see in April.

[Exec Talent]

www.venancio.com.br

Significant savings on most items. Also stock many more items than most pharmacies in Rio. Various locations.

[DJ FourMoney]

Housing Market.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27218510

Elections.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-27233276

Popularity slipping? Show them the money.

About Housing, everywhere in Latin America is in a real estate bubble. Just wait and scoop up property cheap..

[Exec Talent]

Housing Market.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27218510

Elections.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-27233276

Popularity slipping? Show them the money.

[AltoBomGosto]

I'll check it out. But never saw high quality there, maybe I wasn't paying attention.

I know that those items are not easy to get in Manaus!