Living in China

[Bill Lee]

For those that are going to answer this question, please post it and not PM. I would like to know too.

How does the general process work on a used apartment/house and new property? I take it all the documents are in Chinese only?

Bill

Hey guys,

I am thinking about getting a place out in Shanghai. Can anyone give me a quick breakdown of the law regarding residential housing in China? Also, does anyone know of good weblinks that could give me more of such info.

Me: US Citizen.

Thanks a bunch.

[Weelock]

Because of Hurricane Katrina, those gas lines in China might get worst. Gas prices is expect to increase 20 to 30% short term in the USA. Some places people are wait 1 hour for gas in the USA. The shortage is expect to be worldwide. Don't know if this is real or not.

Good thing about the price being stable after reading monger Tanget's post about China setting a lock on the price, $2USD. It's averging about $3.05 regular unleaded on the West Coast of the US. It should get higher.

Weelock

Although the situation in Guangzhou is still OK, I noticed some lines in Shenzhen this week. Best to arrive with enough gas to avoid the waiting.

Csun, thanks for the compliment.

Fast Eddie, Just give me a call.


OAH

[Ontario Boy]

OAH,

There is a common element in both our threads . I am assuming that you are laowei like me and we were both with "Chinese" women. I think that the officials are showing the old jealousy of chinese women with non chinese men. They have the opportunity to pull rank and do.

[Jack Spratt]

Chopsticks

I am sure that the long term (foreign) residents of China share your reasons for being happy here in the middle kingdom. But I sure as hell don't share your enjoyment of the so called "freedoms". Coming from Oz, I have some understanding of over-regulation and "nannyism", but I would hate it to degenerate, so we get to some of the levels (ie freedoms) I see here. And I certainly don't want to see the real freedoms we have in the west being sacrificed for the very superficial "freedoms" you espouse in China. Because they have no real freedoms at all.

Sorry for the politics.

jack

[OldAsiaHand]

Ontario Boy,

An immigration official scolded my wife (China born, US Naturalized) for filling in the form in Chinese. She almost always gets questions when leaving the country, even with her US passport. Strange.

OAH

One of the things I have found out about China is how their minor officials love to wield their power and it will be directed against their own people more than foreigners. An example occured on my last trip to Beijing when I was going through the immigration check. I was with my Chinese girlfriend who, while still travelling on a Chinese passport, has lived in Canada for about five years. I went first and breezed through with a polite "Welcome to China" from the young male officer. My girlfriend went next and immediately he started actually yelling at her in Chinese I turned around to see what was going on and my friend said go ahead it wasn't serious. She then left the line and came back a few moments later. Her crime was that had she completed her landing card in English not Chinese. The previously polite official turned on her and accused her of forgetting that she was Chinese and just because she was with a foreigner didn't change a thing.

[AMPfinder]

Hey guys,

I am thinking about getting a place out in Shanghai. Can anyone give me a quick breakdown of the law regarding residential housing in China? Also, does anyone know of good weblinks that could give me more of such info.

Me: US Citizen.

Thanks a bunch.

[Ontario Boy]

One of the things I have found out about China is how their minor officials love to wield their power and it will be directed against their own people more than foreigners. An example occured on my last trip to Beijing when I was going through the immigration check. I was with my Chinese girlfriend who, while still travelling on a Chinese passport, has lived in Canada for about five years. I went first and breezed through with a polite "Welcome to China" from the young male officer. My girlfriend went next and immediately he started actually yelling at her in Chinese I turned around to see what was going on and my friend said go ahead it wasn't serious. She then left the line and came back a few moments later. Her crime was that had she completed her landing card in English not Chinese. The previously polite official turned on her and accused her of forgetting that she was Chinese and just because she was with a foreigner didn't change a thing.

[Going To China]

Excellent post Count G,
I could not have said it better.

I know OAH is right

“The middle/upper class, educated, Chinese people have manners and know how to behave around foreigners”

But these uneducated/classless morons can really spoil things.

Lets face it, no matter where you are in the world, it is the same affect.

[Tequila Kid]

Excellent post Count G,
I could not have said it better.


I know OAH is right….
“The middle/upper class, educated, Chinese people have manners and know how to behave around foreigners”

….but these uneducated/classless morons can really spoil things.

[Chop Sticks]

I must say that the "I dont give a shit" attitude of the chinese people is why i like this country much.

I live in a european country, which has way too much stupid regulations and pseudo-social and left-liberal rules.

I like it when you have the freedom to spit on the street, cross the street at red light, stare at anyone you want, bring your drinks to the restaurant. I think in some ways the Chinese have more freedom, than we have.

Sometimes I hate their bad habits too, but it only last for a few hours. When I eat the food I like for 1 $, take a bus for 10 cents and get someone for the night to bang for 30 $, I am happy as I never would be in my country.

And my experience is that I also get a lot "hellos" from college students direct in my face, not behind me.

But I know GZ is not a friendly city.

Intransit,

I've also witnessed them staring at a disabled person or someone disfigured in some horrible way. They are just fucking rude, there's no way around it. I remember my mother chastising me about staring at people when I was 5 years old. Apparently, teaching kids to be polite is not the Chinese way. How does it make the disabled person feel to be stared at? The Chinese don't fucking give a shit.

Cronin

[Sleepy Floyd]

Just so happens I work with a Mexican from the US, so I better ask my compadre why is he a wetback. And no, I am not a racist(I have equal disdain for every race, LOL!) but I am finding it ironic that as I mentioned at the top of my post that all this shit sounds familiar but it is usually someone Asian saying it from some other part of the world, where generally the majority is white.

A wetback is a term that usually refers to Mexicans who came into America illegaly. So as to say that they had to swim across the river to get there. Americanized mexicans even use this term towards people of their own race. So it doesn't apply to all Mexican Americans. Kind of like the difference between on ABC(american born chinese) and an FOB (fresh of the boat).

[Ontario Boy]

When I was passed out drunk. Laughing

RedNeck = ( Farmer ) in China

I will admit, Im not a little man and when I go to other cities besides Shanghai, I get stared at and what is really weird since I have hair on arms, people have came up and touched my hair on my arms. Weird, yes to me but Im weird to them. As long as Im wearing my sunglasses, I dont mind but deep down, is hard to handle from time to time.

I know where you are coming from. I was on a public bus coming back into BJ from the summer palace and was sitting opposite a young family with a little daughter about 3 or 4. She reached across and started pinching the hair on my arms. Her mother was embarassed but the girl was laughing her head off so I guess the curiousity is inborn.

[Going To China]

When I was passed out drunk. Laughing

RedNeck = ( Farmer ) in China

I will admit, Im not a little man and when I go to other cities besides Shanghai, I get stared at and what is really weird since I have hair on arms, people have came up and touched my hair on my arms. Weird, yes to me but Im weird to them. As long as Im wearing my sunglasses, I dont mind but deep down, is hard to handle from time to time.

They're call rednecks in the states or just plain ignorant MFs. Yes. They are everywhere and there's nothing we can do about it. Aside from that, there are whites, blacks and puerto ricans in the states that makes fun of Chinese too. So I guess it evens out in the long run. And there are the Chinese that makes fun of how the Vietnamese talk.

BTW, I was taught not to stare at people and not to get involved with any disputes I see in the street. So you can be lying and dying on the street and I will keep walking by.

Bill

[Bob Builder]

Just so happens I work with a Mexican from the US, so I better ask my compadre why is he a wetback. And no, I am not a racist(I have equal disdain for every race, LOL!) but I am finding it ironic that as I mentioned at the top of my post that all this shit sounds familiar but it is usually someone Asian saying it from some other part of the world, where generally the majority is white.

Its even funnier if you hear these comments from an ABC (American born Chinese) as I have when after a life in the west, they ***** about being treated as inferiors by white people in the US and then ***** about how bad the Chinese are in Hong Kong or China, especially when they get laughed at for not being able to speak Chinese properly. And then they spend all their time in Asia with other ABCs or white people, speaking English.

I'm all for you paying as much as you can as you can look at it from another point of view, you are contributing to the local economy of some rural village in the sticks and drastically impoved the standard of living there. But you're probably right, I am a cheap ass but no different from some other recent posters I have seen here who are especially hard on newbies. The whole thing is getting the most "bang for your buck"(pun intended), Tips options.

[Lao Ma]

Lex : right on - that analysis is spot-on, couldn't agree more.

Now, another post from a different punter:

"Considering what I hear some guys P4P, I wish you would all leave the niunius alone as you are driving up the price. Just like those freaking Taiwanese and Japs. The can fuck off too! "

Nice comments, for a racist. But since I doubt you are a racist, perhaps you are unaware that the term "jap" is like calling a mexican a wetback. The Taiwanese and Japanese (not Japs) have an incredibly tiny effect on the prices here in China. I pay what I want to and can afford to pay. What I pay a girl is nobody's f-ing business but my own. If I think I'm getting a value for my money, I'll go for it. Your cheap-assness is not a factor whatsoever in what I pay.