St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Lucky Strike]

This is a good read, hopefully by the time I'm back in a few months some of these restrictions will not be necessary.

An informative read indeed. "For close contact, prone positions (lying face down) could be uncomfortable or dangerous for clients who are wearing face coverings. Accordingly, employees may consider other appropriate precautions such as draping a client's head with a cotton pillowcase" - this is some weird S&M.

I think I'll pass on SXM until this (necessary) silliness is no longer necessary.

[DennisMP]

This is a good read, hopefully by the time I'm back in a few months some of these restrictions will not be necessary.

[FunTimeSxm]

I have seen that the government advice for clubs is:

1. Employees need to wear masks and protective clothing.

2. Not suppose to be any kissing.

3. Oral sex is not recommended. Gloves for wanking.

4. Shower after every customer.

5. Staff to enforce sanitisation routines.

Will be interesting if this is enforced.

[DennisMP]

Will report more when I hear how this works out and others open as well.

[AmpDude2003]

Hey all,

I really want to plan a trip in June. I was reviewing the 4-Phase plan (https://www.st-maarten.com/index.php...ing-st-maarten) and will monitor closely before I even think about booking. I couple of items I am wondering:

1. Will the girls that have been "stuck on the island" vacate to finally get home, new girls coming in? Not sure of this dynamic.

2. I would hate to get stuck there, planning to spend a few days.

3. Thinking about using Airbnb, there seems to be some good properties. I usually stay at Princess Heights.

4. Hope the bars are not enforcing masks to workers and clients? That would be odd.

Things are tough out there, stay safe boys.

[Cursnoop]

The stay-at-home orders in the USA Has me climbing the walls. All of the AMPS have been shut down, although some back door entries available. A few escorts here and there available. But I have not taken the risk, although I do not live in fear. When things ease up and the AMPS re-open I will likely wait a while to see how things develop, I. E. , are there any reported cases coming from spa visits and what type of attitude the girls have while visiting. I will use the same approach with international travel destinations. I think St. Maarten will be the most interesting to watch given its reliance on the cruise ship industry. Despite numerous cruise ship outbreaks of nuro-viruses in the past, I don't recall any specific reports of club girls becoming sick from exposure to cruise ship passengers or crew. But I will wait until the cruise ship industry is active again, which will bring back the Colombian and DR girls, and then see if there are any outbreaks occurring from the coronavirus. The clubs in Antigua, Barbados, and St. Maarten are all similar in that they get packed with girls and international travelers / locals in small venues. So I think we will learn pretty quickly how things are playing out. Although I have not been to Campo, the probability of infection would be far less there because of the set-up..

I can't say about other islands, but Curacao just started opening borders to They closed the border in late March / early April and at that time there was a voluntary quarantine for residents that came back from exterior but guess what some of them decided to go out and spread the disease which the government decided to put shelter in place and then quikly a full lockdown even if we didn't even had a lot of cases Their moto was to crush the curve. In the meantime the Dominicans in campo left the island with a humanitarian flight, the Colombians are still there the Colombian president won't open the border till 1 September. In the meantime Campo is going bankrupt. The owner is really mad at the chicas because they can't pay rent and and he has no income because since shelter in place the goverment closed campo there were also issues about human trafficking etc and they are fighting it in court. As of right now were are not anymore on full lockdown there is a shelter in place from 12 at midnight till 6 in the morning and there is a mandatory quarantine for residents that come back from exterior they need to stay 2 weeks in a hotel and after that they will get checked for covid19. But as y'all know Curacao is flooded with Venezuelans chicas in bars all over the island and they all need money Cubaweg is open and a lot of other bars are open but there are not a lot of clients so pussy prices are going down quick.

[Scubatoo]

Will mongering ever be the same? .... would appreciate some input from the senior posters on the dilemma and thoughts moving forward.

The stay-at-home orders in the USA Has me climbing the walls. All of the AMPS have been shut down, although some back door entries available. A few escorts here and there available. But I have not taken the risk, although I do not live in fear. When things ease up and the AMPS re-open I will likely wait a while to see how things develop, I. E. , are there any reported cases coming from spa visits and what type of attitude the girls have while visiting. I will use the same approach with international travel destinations. I think St. Maarten will be the most interesting to watch given its reliance on the cruise ship industry. Despite numerous cruise ship outbreaks of nuro-viruses in the past, I don't recall any specific reports of club girls becoming sick from exposure to cruise ship passengers or crew. But I will wait until the cruise ship industry is active again, which will bring back the Colombian and DR girls, and then see if there are any outbreaks occurring from the coronavirus. The clubs in Antigua, Barbados, and St. Maarten are all similar in that they get packed with girls and international travelers / locals in small venues. So I think we will learn pretty quickly how things are playing out. Although I have not been to Campo, the probability of infection would be far less there because of the set-up. Girls with their own quarters and individual mongers dropping in. Aruba, with the very small bars and back street cruising in San Nicolas, is probably somewhere in between Campo and the packed clubs of St. Maarten as far as risk of exposure. So I will sit back for a few months and see how things are playing out. Even if the risk appears greatly reduced, I will also be curious about the experience in the room. Waiting to get laid after going through any kind of surgical prep procedure is not something I am going to hop on a plane to experience. So I will watch both things before deciding to visit any of my favorite destinations.

That being said, while I did not visit St. Maarten this past winter, I did visit a few of my favorite club girls in other parts of the world. A week with a favorite Colombiana from El Capitan in Cartagena. A week with a favorite Jamaican, from a club in Barbados, in Antigua And several weeks with a local favorite club girl in Puerto Vallarta. Those were all great fun, but expensive trips. But because of these uncertain times, that may be the best way for me to go again this year and give me the best chance of remaining safe and having great times in the room. But the monger in me will always be looking to return to the clubs in St. Maarten, but not until I wait and see how things evolve over the coming months.

[ClubTed]

Will mongering ever be the same? Glad I'm on the downslope and have put my time in on Aruba, SXM, and Finally Curacao last fall, before the pandemic has changed the world. Since chatter is light, obviously due to the islands being shut down, want to throw out my thoughts and get input from the senior members to see if our top Caribbean destinations will ever be the same again.

1) Aruba. I was never really a fan of the bars here and did all my damage during the day cruising the alleys and setting up after work excursions. Bars aren't super packed and the daytime / nighttime alley drives do give adequate social distancing. Someone on the Aruba board asked what the current situation is. Have no idea. But if there are chicas stuck there. There is enough of an island clientele to keep them up and running.

2) St. Maarten. This is the tricky one. The honey hole, being Carolinas. Gets packed. With cruise ship passengers, cruise ship crew, tourists, locals, government officials. LOL. Place rocks. Can you imagine being in there at 2:00 pm During the day and having to wear a mask and talk to chicas wearing a mask? Sorry, doesn't work for me. And the same would be at any other casa, but Carolinas has the highest volume.

3) Barbados, Bonaire, and the DR. I've never visited so can't comment.

4) Lastly, Curacao. Saw one Dominicana was MIA, but someone on the Curacao board cleared up the fact that she bugged out of Campo and went AWOL. Anyway, this venue is the only one I see working in this pandenic, and I've only been there once. The social distancing and the outdoor environment in the hot sun. Not sure what virus could survive, that's not hidden in someone's pants. Still the issue remains about how close a chica will let you get to her. Will there be a Covid-19 surcharge to kiss? To even get close? And what used to be negotiable or attainable is now off the table?

Bottom line, is this sucks and unless there's a real quick fix to the transmission of this virus. We will all have to be thinking with the bigger head on this one. Just learned another big sports star NBA legend has tested positive. No answer to the dilemma but since reports are few and understandably non-existent, would appreciate some input from the senior posters on the dilemma and thoughts moving forward.

[FunTimeSxm]

Bet the girls that are stuck on the island are offering excellent freelance rates at the minute. Really want to go over as my fav girl is on island still. I may check out flights in July if there is no quarantine.

Be interesting to see how quickly the girls come back when the clubs re-open, Also the island is going suffer without the cruise ships passengers, fingers crossed there are no big hurricanes this year.

[DennisMP]

As in Curacao I am not sure the Colombians went home, The Colombian president closed border really fast and does not look like accepting incoming flights from the islands. So I think there are still Colombians in SXM, I have one who is posting pictures in SXM so I guess she is there I could be wrong but I do not think so. She is posting pics on the beach so I guess a baller is taking care of her.

Many of the girls got stuck on the island and are still there. Lot of the Platinum girls are stranded there as well. I have friends on the island who have been hanging out with them often.

[DavisLucJr]

Colombia is shut down, no entry permitted from the DR.

All the chicas went home a long time ago.

It will probably be late August before there are chicas.

I would go to Campo--Ill bet they are up an running. one active case on the island.

Yeah yeah I know. It was more of a joke than anything else. Little bit of wishful thinking too. A man can dream, can't he? LOL.

[Cursnoop]

Colombia is shut down, no entry permitted from the DR.

All the chicas went home a long time ago.

It will probably be late August before there are chicas.

I would go to Campo--Ill bet they are up an running. one active case on the island.

As in Curacao I am not sure the Colombians went home, The Colombian president closed border really fast and does not look like accepting incoming flights from the islands. So I think there are still Colombians in SXM, I have one who is posting pictures in SXM so I guess she is there I could be wrong but I do not think so. She is posting pics on the beach so I guess a baller is taking care of her.

[Cursnoop]

Colombia is shut down, no entry permitted from the DR.

All the chicas went home a long time ago.

It will probably be late August before there are chicas.

I would go to Campo--Ill bet they are up an running. one active case on the island.

Campo is looking like going bankrupt, the ones who are running the organisation did not want to pay its employees and the government had to jump in. The Dominicans went home, 1 sneaked out and is staying illegal with her mom on the island. The Colombians I think are still in Campo but campo is closed so no money for them. Campo manager is very mad at the ladies because since the lockdown they wouldn't pay their rooms no more, and there have been altercations between the manager and girls / guards even the police had to come.

[Mel365]

Hahaha big circle on the calendar around June 15. Fingers crossed.

Colombia is shut down, no entry permitted from the DR.

All the chicas went home a long time ago.

It will probably be late August before there are chicas.

I would go to Campo--Ill bet they are up an running. one active case on the island.

[DavisLucJr]

See attached.

Hahaha big circle on the calendar around June 15. Fingers crossed.