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04-27-18 22:38 #6850
Posts: 9St Maarten. Details.
St Maarten follow-up, staff detail sorry long winded and belated.
Here are some personal notes of staffers I was fortunate to meet and spend time with.
As most know this is very much a YMMV circumstance and I have a strong preference for funny over any other attribute. So what matters to me is having a good time with someone who is nice to me and makes me laugh.
Defiance and Carolinas were my favorites, each with similar characteristics. Defiance was always less crowded and thus easier for me to get to know the girls. Carolinas has the largest staff and on the 3 cruise ships in port days busy during the daytime & evening.
Defiance has easy parking with no unsavory characters hanging around the parking lot versus Carolinas, but I thought the Carolinas Crystal crossing safer than my prior visit 8 years ago.
My heartfelt thanks to Michelle at Defiance. She was my entry there who treated me very well and got to know me and then welcomed me to sit with her friends and referred me with a stamp of approval. Other nice folks at Defiance include Arianna (no English though), Danielle, Cher, Lucy, Milan. Cher & Lucy are from Surinam in S. America which is Dutch and have perfect English. I liked the relaxed atmosphere here.
Carolinas is Grand Central with the most staff and okay restaurant. Likely the girls here make more money than the other places as it is busy. Lilly was my godfather at Carolinas who was very nice to me with a major sense of humor. She helped me meet some of her equally nice amigas Maria, Natalia, Marianna, Alexandra, Paula (o), Amy and Viviana.
I met some other nice girls there who were more business-oriented Angie, Alana nice, but I didn't gain the rapport I like.
Two of my favorite experiences were at Crystal. Juliette (a) showed me a ridiculously good time. I doubt I've laughed that much cumulatively in most months in the States. Sweetheart and we communicated via her cell phone translator, but she was mega-nice, attractive, knew some interesting tricks, etc.
My other favorite experience there was Loraina (whom I met on her 2nd day. She has short hair, younger, lean, big smile, attractive and more fun than should be legal. Absolutely would recommend either, but Loraina has poquito English which didn't matter as she is easy to communicate with all other ways.
Both top 5% lifetime experience and I am blessed to have met them. However, despite me meeting Loraina when Juliette was off-premises and despite me lavishing greetings on both, introducing them buying them drinks on subsequent visits there was BAD territorial / competitive vibe at Crystals. Not at all like Carolinas.
Captain wasn't my style as I find it loud & impersonal. Met Natalia there in the afternoon who was nice enough, while (Y) Jasmine in the evening was more business-oriented. I don't find Captain customer-oriented with the higher fees for shorter time slots format.
Petite Chateau is a bit off on the attractiveness scale with all due respect. I was there early evening and spent time with Caroline / Carolina who proved to have quite the sense of humor which I like. No English, coal black Columbian, younger for Petite Chateau and treated me well.
Casa Blanca was dead empty when I was there. I drove into the parking lot looking for signs of life and Rosie was walking up from the lower accommodation area up to what's left of the bar / restaurant. It was early like 7:30 and she said their business is midnight on and they are open to 7:00 am perhaps weekend hours. She walked me in and it was literally empty. She worked the bar and rounded up the male bartender. Later 2 other girls came out. Food was good, but took forever. No customers the whole time. Rosie was transactional-oriented but warmed up a bit as I bought her a matching meal. Very high asking prices, but the room experience was good and she was fun.
Overall I was treated very well and felt safe most of the time. Had some anxiety when I was the only gringo but no overt problems other than a local at Defiance who complained bitterly to the girls (in front of me) about going with the white boy over the black man yes I speak enough Spanish to understand what he was saying and also the girls told me when he left. It was an isolated incident and he did not physically threaten me, although I was uneasy.
P.S Not all the clubs have drinking agua even if they have shower water. The government has setup public water stations at locales around the island. Nearest to the clubs is on Pond Island in front of the Little League baseball stadium just off Soualiga Road with parking on the street or behind with multiple taps which are free & 24/7. The girls need to tote their agua containers to the public station for drinking water using big plastic jugs which are very heavy when filled to take back in addition they don't like to walk Soualiga Road as it is not safe. I did a mercy run for them filling up my car with water jugs which they would have had difficulty doing otherwise. It could be a big help should you notice the need.
Stay safe. Casey.
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04-18-18 23:53 #6849
Posts: 159I doubt that these Paolas are all the same chica that I did at Carolina's.
The below 4/8/17 information on one Paola at Carolina's was from my SXM trip report. I do not believe that she is the same girl as the other Paolas from previous reporting, as the physical descriptions, other than blonde hair, do not match. Paola is a common enough name that it could be a coincidence.
Originally Posted by SeymoreButts [View Original Post]
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04-13-18 13:19 #6848
Posts: 47What do Casa House charges.
When I was on the island last November, the Casa charge was $5 at Carolines, El Capitan, Crystals and Defiance. I went to Casa Blanca during the day, drove up the driveway and a girl came out of the side door and took me straight in. She asked for $10 for the house. I paid but was not sure if the Casa really gets a payment when your there on the girls off hours (like before 11, siesta time, or after hours) I figured I was using their facility (not off somewhere else) so I paid). I did a search and found someone paid $5 at Casa Blanca, but that was back in 2016. I am sure the ladies are trying to get paid as much as they can, since the tourism is down since not all the rooms are back online. Simpson Bay just started this month with limited rooms but will be back in full availability by my return trip in Nov / Dec.
Seymore.
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04-12-18 12:56 #6847
Posts: 47Thans for the report.
Thanks for the update. This is the first report that Sunset was opened. When I was there back in November, the place was closed and no info when it was going to re-open.
Originally Posted by Caseyb7 [View Original Post]
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04-12-18 06:00 #6846
Posts: 31Cruise Stop.
Was in St. Maarten last week on a cruise so time was of the essence. I was able to slip away from the family so grabbed a cab to Carolina's. Short 10 minute cab from the terminal, $6. Updated furniture since I was there last, but otherwise still the same.
It was midday and there were about a dozen girls when I walked in, mostly 5-6's but two 8's that caught my eye. I grabbed a drink at the bar to scoop the action, and one of the 8's approached me and we started chatting, tall paisa from Medellin with long dark hair, the cup bolt-on's, beautiful olive skin, you know the type. I can't remember her name but her English was surprisingly decent, my Spanish is basic conversational, so I buy her a drink and we chat for a bit to break the ice, then off to the room. Same $10 room fee and $50 for the girl. Got to love St. Maarten!
Covered BJ but I didn't push for BB, she lets me finger her beautiful shaved pussy as she blows me, then hopes on for cowgirl. Embarrassingly I did not last past the first position, and blew my load after a few short minutes. What can I say, it happens. Clean up, I give her a $10 propina even though she didn't ask, back to the bar for one more drink, then back to town. I should have stayed for a second round as I saw a few other girls I liked, but was paranoid and wanted to get back before I was missed.
From past experience I know the girls are typically more "casual" in the daytime, but deck themselves out at night with hair, makeup and sexy outfits, so the 5-6 girl in the day could be a 7-8 at night. Overall St. Maarten seems to be recovering well after the hurricane, and Carolinas at least is alive and well.
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04-12-18 00:28 #6845
Posts: 9Overview. Recent visit.
Here is a quick summary of my recent visit to St Maarten with more detail to follow later. Thanks to all those who have posted, per St Maarten and elsewhere, to help orient incoming visitors like myself.
Many things were similar to my visit several years ago facilities, prices, policies, etc. Actually I'm surprised by the relative price stability. Years back I visited all the Dutch clubs and did again this trip. I have no experience with the Simpson Bay Adult Clubs.
My best experiences were Carolina's & Defiance. Carolina's had the largest staff about 23 when I asked, Defiance has probably a dozen or so. My experience with the girls here was great and they treated me kindly. "Lilly" at Carolina's opened the door to good referrals to several other very nice friends. "Michelle" at Defiance did the same.
I had two very good experiences at Crystal, but staff selection was limited.
El Captain was not my comfort dark, loud, limited staff with transactional attitude. I was told 12 staff.
Casa Blanca is open including the, pretty good, restaurant but only 6 staffers.
Petite Chateau still operates and I saw about 8 staff but they are mostly plus size ladies with little English.
Stopped by Sunset in the afternoon and saw 5 staff but did not engage.
I'm pleasantly surprised that inflation has not increased prices much. Fifty to sixty USD for 30 minutes was the case in Carolinas & Defiance also Crystal & Petite Chateau if memory serves me. Everywhere there is a room charge of about $5, maybe one was $10.
El Captain & Casa Blanca were more and both were 20 minutes versus 30 minutes. Captain I believe was $50, Casa Blanca more I think asking price was $70. However, in each case the girls extended for me as we had a pleasant time.
My style is really informal and I like to gain some sense of relationship by talking, buying drinks, playing games such that we can have a "human" time together versus only physical. Perhaps because of this I had almost no pandering for "propina" or other crap. Frankly nearly everyone treated me extremely well although by far best were on referrals from girls who already knew me and liked my orientation.
Rooms were best at Carolina's, Crystal and Defiance. Some places the rooms are those of the girl herself such that there are decorations and a sense of personality, other places the rooms are service rooms and quite Spartan. In no case did we have hot water, only frio.
Atmosphere was a bit dicey at Sunset & Captain with more locals who stared longer at the gringo.
Knowing just a few Spanish words can be helpful as some are little to no English. Sign language goes a long way and a few of the more established girls have translator apps on their phones and can do a pretty decent back & forth typing into their phone apps.
P.S. - There is an adult toy store aptly named, The Adult Toy Box, as you walk toward the Cruise Ship Terminal on the far side of the street (left) just across from a gas station. It is just a couple minute walk on the boardwalk past downtown Philippsburg. Many of the girls like vibes and it signals you are looking out for them, not just yourself.
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04-07-18 17:15 #6844
Posts: 18Thanks.
Many thanks Seymore! I mainly searched the Curacao thread. Some of these descriptions sound pretty accurate. I saw her before the bolt-ONS were installed. A pity she opted for them. She was naturally amazing. I've seen pics since where she clearly has enhancements.
Again, thank you sir.
Originally Posted by SeymoreButts [View Original Post]
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04-06-18 21:07 #6843
Posts: 47Intel on Paola.
I searched the archives and here are some mentions of Paola over the last few years. Blonde and similar age. Maybe the same or maybe all Paola's are blonde and a great talent.
Reported 4/8/17.
Paola the whitest-looking chica in either club. She is from Armenia in the Colombian coffee zone and looks like one of those blonde paisas. She is an early-stage MILF, perhaps in her early-mid 30's. She was very polite and delivered quality service, including solid BBBJ and post-leche GFE. She was very good with her mouth, making a point of kissing me all up and down my body before going to work on my cock. She can contract her pussy muscles to squeeze your dick while she fucks you (Dominicans call it cocomordan). She would have been a candidate for a repeat if I had more time on SXM.
Reported 1/16/16.
Originally Posted by Woorace [View Original Post]
Reported on 2/25/15.
Later that night, I headed over to Carolina's. This trip I wanted to try as many different girls and try not go back to some that I had been with in my last two trips. I recall on my last over Christmas, there were a few lookers that I wanted to take for a spin. One of them was Paola, a tall blond stunner with nice fakes. She is probably the best looking girl at Carolina's right now. She approached me at the bar and we chatted for a bit before heading to the room. Considering it was my first time with her, I have to say that the service was great. Very GFE with DFK and she took her time with me. I highly recommend her. I know many of you want room number and if I recall, she is in room 18.
Paola: Carolina's.
Looks: 9.0.
Body: 9.0.
Service: 9.0.
GFE: 8.5 (No BBBJ).
Overall: 9.0.
Originally Posted by JackTheSnack [View Original Post]
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04-06-18 03:28 #6842
Posts: 18Paola / Rapunzel.
This is an international call to locate the most skilled lady of my life. I'm not a rookie, nor was I when I met the infamous Paola of Campo on Curacao in August of 2012 she reshaped what sex means to me. She was apparently called Rapunzel in a few posts. She had long 'blonde' hair (room 113 in 2012). A nice body, cute ass, beautifully full pussy, be cup tits (though I heard she got implants, dammit), full lips, and spoke pretty good English. She was a 26 year old Columbiana in 2012 who liked to sing Shakira at the jukebox in the 'VIP lounge. ' When I met her it was hard to find her because rich guys would scoop her up for days. I heard she got popular and she became a big time gal. I think she worked at St. Marten and Curacao. I am interested in finding out if my memory is accurate, if she was like a fine wine and better with age, or simply if she's retired and taking care of her personal life now. If any of you international player / monger / sex addicts has any news of her. I'the be massively appreciative of any Intel. PM me if you think you might know her. I would love to time a visit to wherever she might be. Even just pictures would be great. Think you know her. Do share.
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04-02-18 10:46 #6841
Posts: 1354Hey Dennis,
Thanks for your very clarifying report on Lotus and similar night spots.
Local girls, huh? That would be rare.
Many times I have seen chicas from the casas or EE girls from the strip clubs around on the island (on a beach, going shopping, eating at a restaurant, dancing at a night club). Sometimes together with other chicas/girls. Sometimes in the company of a gent. All legitimate of course. But I have never seen them freelancing outside the club. My guess is that would be frown upon. By the public. By the local authorities. And by the club owners. I am not saying it can't happen. But as a general rule I believe p4p on SXM will only be tolerated inside certain clubs.
- S16.
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04-02-18 00:46 #6840
Posts: 71Lotus, Platinum et al.
Originally Posted by Shark16 [View Original Post]
As I am a dusk to dawn guy I went to Platinum Room about 7 nights in a row after sessions at Carolinas or Defiance. Everything there is as before Irma, good looking Eastern Europeans with a Pinay, DR and Colombian to round out the cast. IMO the Colombian chica is the hottest girl in club but at the moment she isn't doing take out. The others are and want to play the $1000 TLN tactic although all are willing to negotiate (no matter the end price you're paying $250 multa to the bar). I got some "VIP" treatment during private dances with two who became quite friendly with me, although I didn't stick my dick in either of them I got everything else to include some free time with them a couple afternoons at the beach / bar. When Maho comes back to life (as FunTime said its a ghost town now, only thing open is 3 Amigos) I doubt you'll see this modus operandi continue.
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04-01-18 16:47 #6839
Posts: 173Lotus nightclub
It's basically just a normal nightclub, just that It's frequented by freelance hoes. Colombian, Dominican and Eastern European. When I was in rhythem and booze I saw a few platinum girls in there, whether they were being taken out or there on their own accord I do not know.
Also anyone remember Vanessa, the attractive fake tits one? She is back at Carolina according to my friend.
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04-01-18 13:52 #6838
Posts: 1354Lotus Club is not a p4 p club
Hey Ivanvlad,
The way I read things here is that Lotus Club is not a legitimate p4 p club but a regular night club with possibly some freelancers among regular guests (thanks to FunTime for confirming this). I am therefore reluctant to put it on a "list of clubs".
At this time the reports are too few and the questions too many:
- Are the freelancers there regularly?
- How many freelancers?
- Who are the freelancers? Latinas from Colombia / DR? EE girls from the strip clubs? Locals? Age? Looks?
- No shower or private rooms like at the legitimate clubs?
- Is it tolerated by the club / local authorities in the long run?
- What's the going rate? Quality of services?
My guess is that you will have a better time at the legitimate p4 p clubs.
- S16.
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03-31-18 22:38 #6837
Posts: 173Lotus club
It used to be called LE shore nightclub, and then jungle club or something like that. After Tantra got trashed by Irma they setup Lotus. It's above Rythem and Booze and right next to Toppers. Never went in it but a number of freelance hoes hit it on Thursday, Friday and Saturday night.
I hear its basically tantra nightclub.
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03-31-18 20:32 #6836
Posts: 61Lotus?
Originally Posted by Shark16 [View Original Post]