St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Vitrea]

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1379971]Just came back from 3 days in SXM. Although it was a great vacation with some much needed respite from super cold weather on the East Coast, I must say that I was somewhat disappointed in my return visit to previous haunts. The two primary venues remain; Carolinas and Seamans. The most notable change is in the overall decrease in the quality of women. They are, on average, significantly heavier with what appear to be those 'silicon butts' that people talk about on the forum. (I don't know.....[QUOTE]

The refereence to silicone is no joke. The implants are real. Personally, I find it repulsive. I have no idea why they do it as I know very few guys that like them that big. Colombianas are genetically blessed with great asses so why put implants on top of that? Crazy.

[Vitrea]

I just got back from SXM and thank to all the info I got from this website, damn I made a right choice to go there. Simply it is the 'pleasure island' in every sense of that word.

T to thank everyone on ISG for their help in making this trip possible!

Cheers!

Good job Alz55. Thank you for posting. Most newbies ask a lot of questions but do not post. Appreciate you doing it.

Do you remember the name / s or room number of the girl you liked? That is always helpful.

[Manny51]

Just came back from 3 days in SXM. Although it was a great vacation with some much needed respite from super cold weather on the East Coast, I must say that I was somewhat disappointed in my return visit to previous haunts. The two primary venues remain; Carolinas and Seamans. The most notable change is in the overall decrease in the quality of women. They are, on average, significantly heavier with what appear to be those 'silicon butts' that people talk about on the forum. (I don't know if that reference is based in fact or just a joke, but if someone told me that some women had actual silicone implants in the rear ends, I would believe it.) I noticed the same disappointing change in Curacao, although I think the decline at SXM isn't quite as steep as that at Campo. Overall, I would say that the quality of women between the two clubs is equal in regards to looks, but I give the nod to Seamans because the girls are less aggressive. Carolina's is a little smaller, with a more flattering red light throughout the room, while Seaman's is a little larger, with a dim white light over the bar and dark elsewhere. Take your pick. Beer is cheap at both. $2 for a bottle of Corona at a bar! Where else will you ever find that? Which is great since I think that Presidente tastes like [CodeWord140].

For all the constant discussion about whether to get a car or not, I would recommend getting a car. Online, you can usually get a car for about $40 a day total, with insurance. That's just a little more than one trip back and forth to the Clubs. And you get to explore the island, and drive over to the French side, where the food is better.

Overall a decent trip. Between Curacao and SXM, I give SXM the nod because of the slight edge in the quality of girls. The decline of Campo is so sad. Anyone who used to go there as recently as 3-4 years ago knows how awesome it was! The decline in these places may force me to pony up and go back to Oxygen in the DR.

By the way, anyone have any theories as the reason for the decline in quality? Are economic conditions in Colombia better now? Have more of them decided to stay and work in Colombia, in places like Medellin and Cartegena? Boy, my trip to Cartegena a year ago was the biggest travel disappointment ever! Are some of them just leaving the trade?

[Alz55]

I just got back from SXM and thank to all the info I got from this website, damn I made a right choice to go there. Simply it is the 'pleasure island' in every sense of that word.

Rented a car at airport and drove to hotel. Renting a car is a must if you do not intend to stay around hotel. It's not hard getting around and finding places if you do little research on your own.

Here's the summary of each place I visited:

Seaman's:

Parking is easy as there's plenty right in front. Place is little dark and sort of small. Once you come by the bar, girls will approach you for drink. There were about 15-20 girls mostly Columbian. I had 3 girls from there and it's my favorite place. Girls are hot and if you do not keep in mind that this is all p2p scenery, you can fall for a girl easy. Yes, girls are that seductive. Second night I had a drink by bar and fairly quickly I felt a connection with girl. I had a gut feeling she had too and went for a half hr session but ended up being over an hour. DFK / BBBJ. She really did enjoy it and asked only I pay the room $3 for extra time. Of course I tipped her well. Next night she said hello, hang out for drink but did not seem happy that I went with different girl later. She even came to my friend to complain about not picking her. Word of advice: keep emotions out of it and see it as fun for $ only.

Carolinas:

Seems as its 99% Columbian chicas here. There are like 30-40 girls currently and at times they get little aggressive and competitive with each other. Went there here during the day also and it's not a same experience – I just prefer nighttime. Had 4 girls from here and can say that service varied for me – there are girls that give you amazing service and remember you, while there are ones that see you as number. I always have a drink with girl and if I see no connection, politely decline and go after the next you like. If there's no connection once you meet, experience in room is usually awful and all mechanical. Girls can be aggressive / pushy but you got to learn how to say politely No to girl if you are not interested else you'll be wasting your $ and time.

Casablanca / Petite Chateau / El Capitan – went there for a drink and did not see much potential. I prefer lighter skin petite girls and most of them are in Carolinas / Seaman's.

Overall – it was an awesome experience and I am so glad I made decision to go. Girls are just HOT, SEXY and it's hard to find the right words to describe the experience.

I surely will be back soon and want to thank everyone on ISG for their help in making this trip possible!

Cheers!

[ClubTed]

Chesterfields is near and dear to my heart having dined there the first time I visited the island during a family vacation. The Greenhouse. The other way from the dock. Seems to have a decent menu. A couple of pool tables in open air. May cater to the tourists, but seems to be a fun place on the east end of downtown Phillipsburg.

I will get the ball started. Although I don't go out at night to eat very much in St Maarten, the last time I really enjoyed

Bamboo Bernie's: sushi and asian fusion. Fun place. Lots of pretty girls to look at too! Not too expensive.

Maho Plaza. Maho, St. Maarten. 2nd floor in the mall on the main drag, near Platinum Club.

Phone: +599 545 3622.

Lunch: Kakao Beach Restaurant and Bar. Orient Bay. Excellent french food, good wine, little private huts with tables for you and your girl. I have taken pairs of girls from the clubs there for lunch many times. Then get some chairs and chill on the beach. After dark the beach area is dead.

Dinner near the clubs with easy parking: Chesterfield Marina on the way to the cruise ship dock, has free wifi, reasonable food. Open for breakfast and lunch also.

Dinner on the French side, Grand Case. Lots of great restaurants on the main waterfront drag. I had good dinner last time at Auberge Gourmand, but there are many more. There are parking lots now, street parking is difficult.

Next?

-zing

[Muata8]

That was at Casablanca. It was either the owner or his son. But it seemed that the club was already slowing down before that happened. I'm sure that the murder was the final straw in it's decline.

Hello all. I'm a newbie to ISG. My first-time offshore straight-up p4p mongering was last November at Casablanca (report forthcoming). (I'm born in, raised in, and have been married {and divorced} twice in America to America women, so obviously I've been paying dearly for mediocre, grudgingly given pussy from self-absorbed, insecure, anally retentive women all my life, LOL.) Glad to now be part of a forum that's fully supportive and respects this beautiful place. Count me among the number.

I rode around with an American friend and locals close to the family and got what I believe was the real scoop on the owner's son's murder-actually committed in a car at point-blank range in front of the club on the road. Didn't hear anything about Mom's involvement, but the murderer is well-known and is laying low elsewhere in the Caribbean. Some people have long memories about these kinds of tragedies, so this saga may not be over.

Casablanca, if finished out properly and run well, could be a game changer in the business. Defiance has the potential as well. Both have enough space for a true resort product, with hotel suites, pools, spas, nightclub, gym and food all on one property. Like Blackbeard's in the DR taken to an entirely different level Train the girls to give great service like they do in Thailand. Make it up-market, ultra safe, and charge appropriately. It could be the ultimate mongering destination. Then get the producers of the Cathouse Series on HBO to do a reality show. It would be a gold mine.

I agree, Pogostick. I think the murder delayed execution of plans to improve the club. I met the family members and had a drink or two with them-really good people. They understand the potential Casablanca has and seem to be operating it while making incremental improvements (like launching an improved website & adding multiple VIP / pole stations) and involving themselves in a fact-gathering/"due diligence" process that's necessary before committing the finances to take to club to the next level.

I'm rooting for them. It was a great place to lose my p4p virginity, so to speak. I'll be back after the high season ends.

I love to dance. Call me crazy, but I'm seriously thinking about spending a couple of nights in one of the Casablanca 'suites' and adapting myself to the "*house timeclock"-get to the club with the girls, then dance, drink, fuck, eat, sleep on their schedule (the music stops at about 6a) with my HQ right upstairs.

Damn! Heavenly for me! My dick gets hard just thinking about it.

Muata

[Vitrea]

Hey Vitrea,

Well, thanks for asking. You are thinking something in the line of what Hillbilly has done for the Colombia thread? I am not sure I could do the bars and restaurants justice actually. As you know there are more than 300 bars & restaurants spread around our tiny pleasure island. And as for women and hotels, tastes, budgets and needs differ from guy to guy. But sure, I could do something for the lazy suggesting one recommended place to go in each part of the island (Simpson Bay, Orient Bay, Maho, Phillipsburg, Marigot, Grand Case).

More importantly I think a guide to regular nightlife on the island would be even more useful, as larger parts of the island can be dead after 11pm. In this case "need to know" is crucial.

It would even be better if we made a collaberation among the vets & other interested, I. E. Making some sort of joint report on "mongers advice on where to dine and wine in SXM". That would be something! Those who are interested to join should feel free to pm me with your suggestions or make a separate report.

I am working on a couple of more reports which I am hoping to release in the next weeks (time permitting). Next on service standards in the clubs. Maybe something about the strip clubs too.

Cheers,

S16.

Thanking Mel & Zing for their many good reports and advice over the years. It's been a pleasure following in your footsteps.

Shark, You read my mind. Compilation is a greta idea. Looks like Zing already started it. I do like your idea of collecting this info and make a post with a list and adding it ROD.

My suggestions:

Breakfast in Pburg: The french place in the pedestrian alley that connects front street to the back street, closer to the back street. I will search for the name. He serves awesome coffee and very good omelets, croissants etc. Owner is cool, laid back and has a very good sense of humor.

I like Holland house's restaurant for dinner. The modern ambiance and lighting is very good. Food is good though I think it is a bit pricey.

Bliss is my favorite dance club. The outdoor setting is nice.

[Zing23]

I am not sure I could do the bars and restaurants justice actually. As you know there are more than 300 bars & restaurants spread around our tiny pleasure island.

I will get the ball started. Although I don't go out at night to eat very much in St Maarten, the last time I really enjoyed

Bamboo Bernie's: sushi and asian fusion. Fun place. Lots of pretty girls to look at too! Not too expensive.

Maho Plaza. Maho, St. Maarten. 2nd floor in the mall on the main drag, near Platinum Club.

Phone: +599 545 3622.

Lunch: Kakao Beach Restaurant and Bar. Orient Bay. Excellent french food, good wine, little private huts with tables for you and your girl. I have taken pairs of girls from the clubs there for lunch many times. Then get some chairs and chill on the beach. After dark the beach area is dead.

Dinner near the clubs with easy parking: Chesterfield Marina on the way to the cruise ship dock, has free wifi, reasonable food. Open for breakfast and lunch also.

Dinner on the French side, Grand Case. Lots of great restaurants on the main waterfront drag. I had good dinner last time at Auberge Gourmand, but there are many more. There are parking lots now, street parking is difficult.

Next?

-zing

[Shark16]

S16, nice report. I added it to ROD.

When you find some time, can you please post about your favourite restaurants for lunch and dinner and who did you use for Scuba?

We could use a review of the west side strip clubs as well as there are very few post on that topic. Thanks again.

Hey Vitrea,
Well, thanks for asking. You are thinking something in the line of what Hillbilly has done for the Colombia thread? I am not sure I could do the bars and restaurants justice actually. As you know there are more than 300 bars & restaurants spread around our tiny pleasure island. And as for women and hotels, tastes, budgets and needs differ from guy to guy. But sure, I could do something for the lazy suggesting one recommended place to go in each part of the island (Simpson Bay, Orient Bay, Maho, Phillipsburg, Marigot, Grand Case).

More importantly I think a guide to regular nightlife on the island would be even more useful, as larger parts of the island can be dead after 11pm. In this case "need to know" is crucial.

It would even be better if we made a collaberation among the vets & other interested, I. E. Making some sort of joint report on "mongers advice on where to dine and wine in SXM". That would be something! Those who are interested to join should feel free to pm me with your suggestions or make a separate report.

I am working on a couple of more reports which I am hoping to release in the next weeks (time permitting). Next on service standards in the clubs. Maybe something about the strip clubs too.

Cheers,
S16
Thanking Mel & Zing for their many good reports and advice over the years. It's been a pleasure following in your footsteps.

[Shark16]

I liked Seamans 2. 0 better than 2. 1. Climbing that "Stairway to Heaven" behind a couple of girls was always a pleasure to the eyes. There were plenty of chairs in a larger room so more chicas tended to hang out in there. Now, in 2. 1, there is not much room for them to hang out in the bar.

And you're right. The music should be softer. I think I would probably stay in the bar longer, buying more drinks, if it was less painful to be there.

Pogo

Oh man, I am so with you on the Stairway thing!!! The hotel part of Seaman's still has two floors of course. A couple of my favourites happened to live upstairs, so I know EXACTLY what you mean. Could I leave those swaying hips alone? No, I couldn't. And then the look, smile and giggling from her. THAT would definetely make my heart sing. Thanks for taking me back!

I totally share your view on Seaman's 1. 0,2. 0 and 2. 1. And it's just a few minor changes, and the new 2. 1 bar could work perfectly. Hope they do something about it.

Cheers.

[Mel365]

Shark,

very good report.

Mel

[Vitrea]

The skinny on Casa Blanca is that the son of the owner was killed in the parking lot of Casa Blanca. It is rumored that his mother ordered the hit as he was also dealing and did not cut her into the action.

Mel

Now, that is a Hollywood story.

[Buck On89]

Took cab to caroline's. Work deal with cabbie. $25 each way, $10 per 30 min waiting time.

The cab driver I got (the guy at the hotel desk referred me) would drive me from club to club. Plus, he went into the clubs with me and also waited for me while I got serviced. He made a great body guard. I don't think I spent more than $60 for the night of being taxied around, plus tip. I was staying at Orient Beach so it was a long drive.

After my first trip to the island and the fact that he gave me a tour of the whole island, I was very comfortable renting a taxi from there on in.

In the evening, for taxi drivers, anything they make at night is gravy since their money making times are during the day with people going to and from the airport or docks. So I suggest you negotiate. Plus he gave me a few good suggestions (regarding chicas) since I was new to the island.

[Mel365]

The skinny on Casa Blanca is that the son of the owner was killed in the parking lot of Casa Blanca. It is rumored that his mother ordered the hit as he was also dealing and did not cut her into the action.

Mel

[Vitrea]

Sorry about being late with this report.

About a month ago I spent another terrific time on the island. Apart from sailing, exploring the beaches, tropical drinks, lazying in the sun, scuba diving, enjoying extraordinary good food, and generally enjoying the tranquil experience of this paradise island, I once again managed to find time to explore the clubs. Not really difficult. .

I have been on the island before, so I sort of knew what to expect. But let's give a quick overview for the firsttimer:

S16, nice report. I added it to ROD.

When you find some time, can you please post about your favourite restaurants for lunch and dinner and who did you use for Scuba?

We could use a review of the west side strip clubs as well as there are very few post on that topic. Thanks again.