St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Zing23]

When I entered Carolina at 130pm yesterday it was dead. They were playing a Mexican soap opera (telenovela) on the big screen, where it seemed the woman was going to shoot herself in the head because she was getting gordo (fat). Or not. There were no guys there except me and only 2 chicas. A few chicas wandered through, but didn't stay. Ever since they put up the big screen for the world cup, I think the girls have been depressed (why strut your stuff in front of guys who are hypnotized by a sports match?).

- Lina (room 5): a slim lady (although she is the mother of one child), 26 but looks older, blond hair, with implants. My first session was great! She talked a lot, but was eager to please me. Lots of kisses, even French, which is exceptional. I thought it would be hard to choose someone else after her, but I still had 6 more days to come!
Needless to say that I chose her as my first TLN… and I was disappointed. She was but the shadow of herself, she told me she was exhausted. Whatever her reasons were, it was rather frustrating for me. She had the courtesy to apologize. Overall, it was a waste of time and money.

After 10 minutes of Mexican soap opera and no chicas, I got up to leave (in retrospect, I realize that being the only guy in a brothel with 20 hot colombianos could be good, if I just asked the bartender to find one of the girls by name!). A cute girl by the door asked me to stay, because her amiga Diana was in her room and would be coming out to the bar for me (this was all in Spanish, and I understood about 75% of it, but enough to get the message). The helpful girl was Lina from room 5. Diana appeared and we three talked over a beer -- they read the news from Colombia (from my internet printout), listened to Colombian music on my Ipod. Diana told me that Lina was unhappy because her enamorado (lover) had just left for Holland. In spite of losing her lover, Lina in the bar beamed out friendliness and sexual promise when she smiled.

- Diana (room 11) is a genuine Playboy type of woman: rather tall, blond hair, small nose, and a C/D cup breast that looks natural. Zing23 report is accurate. Sex was nothing exceptional, and I finally realize she could be a better friend than a sex partner. We exchange ideas about our feelings (we both fell in love in a brothel). We finally became so confident, that I can say I met a true friend, therefore we both decided not have any session together. From this moment my desire for her transformed into a sort of admiration for this attractive body. Do not expect to have GFE with her, she has someone in her mind. Please treat her well.

Diana was 27 on her birthday last week. I happened to be there, missed a session with her because of scheduling problems, and left her a birthday gift with the bartender - a Spanish/English dictionary (wrapped with a ribbon - this is important!). Yesterday she thanked me very sweetly. We spent an hour and a half in the room (we even got a knock on the door, at which point Diana said she lost track of time) because she gave me a long, very professional massage while she listened to the Ipod, plus unrushed sex with a lot of caresses and attention. nicer, but still no DFK or DATY. Then lots of hugging and talking and a shower together (she asked me not to get her hair wet - a good tip). $40

Nathalie (room 13): ...
Be careful of this girl. She is extremely cute and I would have sold my soul for her, but she is the devil incarnate.

Last week when I missed Diana I went to room 13 with Nathalie's roommate. I got to observe Nathalie close up and in her natural element, since I was not a client. She is a drama queen - complained long and hard about someone fiddling with her cellphone or something, got the roommate to carry in 3 bags of groceries that Nathalie got some guy to donate. When she finally got a guy in the bar, she came right back and banged on the door for us to finish.
The only good thing I can say about Nathalie is that she is very cute!


-zing

[Zing23]

- Anita: The best sessions I had, but since she leaves on Monday, it does not really make sense that I go into much details. PM me if necessary.

Seamans had a going away party last week for Anita, Luisa and Paola. I never had the pleasure of Anita's company. Sigh.....

- Eliena (room 14): pretty girl, she has natural C-cup breast, the session was OK but too quick.

This is the tranquila girl that was recommended to me by Yajiara, who was recommended by Luisa, etc. She is very cute. Lots of dark hair. Nice body. Yajaira leaves for Colombia today, so I will let you know soon if I get an unrushed GFE experience from Eliena. She told me she is waiting for me.

Since Carolina put up the big screen for world cup, Seamans is much more lively in the afternoon. Almost all the girls are in the Seamans bar or sitting out front on the steps and yesterday at 3pm that parking lot was packed. I will post more on Carolina in a separate report.

-zing

[Mel365]

Zing,

I know how you feel . some of those girls are soooo sweet and gentle.

Its such a shame they have to leave. Wouldn't it be nice if you could take one home?

See ya soon,

Sailormon

[Zing23]

I had an odd experience yesterday. Keep in mind that I visit St Maarten once or twice a week.

I have been seeing Luisa at Seamans for 6 weeks: she was recommended to me by a previous favorita (see previous report) and she was fantastic. I went by the St Maarten airport because Luisa was flying on DAE to Curacao at 1145. I thought I might catch her checking in between 1030 and 1100, but I did not see her. No big deal, because I was excited to see her roommate Yajaira, who Luisa had recommended to me as "tranquila" (i.e., a girl who would give unrushed GFE, with Luisa telling her what I expected I suspect).

I had an extremely nice session with Yajaira, getting to know a new chica. Unfortunately, she leaves for Colombia on Tuesday because her son is sick, so she suggested another girl, who recently arrived from Colombia.

Afterwards, she went through my collection of latin CDs and listened to selections from many. When she put on Joan Sebastian (see previous report), again as with other chicas, she sang along with all the songs. I told her this was Luisa's favorite music, and then I quietly started to cry.

-zing

[PogoStick]

best is not negociating price but negotiating better service for the same price.

I believe that statement is worth repeating.

pogo

[Routard]

"Lo siento mi amor, pero tengo que irme y preparar el desayuno para mis niños antes de escuela."

Seems to remember you some kind of previous disappointing experience too .

Check my previous reports about TLN in Saint Maarten. The best part is the wake up in the morning and breakfast with the chica. No rush, there is time till 11am

Jan Chris, I appreciate your gentleman attitude regarding not negociating price with the chicas. I agree, best is not negociating price but negotiating better service for the same price.

[Jan Chris]

I second Routard and Zing. Everything is negotiable, depending of the number of clients she will expect (therefore you should get a better price during the low season - a higher price if a boat comes on the shore the same day...), the beauty of the girl, the time when you will pick her up, the way you look like. But personnaly, I do not like to bargain, because I know they are having a hard time and I hope to have a better service - i.e. GFE (which was unfortunately not the case during my last stay except but once). I only bargained once with Samantha (see my report) because she was asking 400 at 1am! Finnally, I paid 280, fine included.

[Delaware Guy]

I guess I misunderstood the post refering to $300 for TLN and thought that was an average figure. And I really can appreciate the "girls away from home" factor. It can be a bit frustrating when you're just starting to get that good morning wood and she comes out with "Lo siento mi amor, pero tengo que irme y preparar el desayuno para mis niños antes de escuela."

[Routard]

I second Zing. There are indeed less expensive places elsewhere, but still pricing is reasonable in Saint Maarten. Short time sessions have standard pricing: 40$ (some bargain it down to 30$, but then don't expect good service from the chica). TLN is negotiable as Zing explained depending time of the night etc... 300$ is the starting price for TLN, I usually pay 150 to 200$ later in the night. I even once managed to get a chica for all the afternoon for 50$, only because she just arrived and wanted to visit the island's beaches (we didn't only visit beaches BTW).

The good thing about TLN in Saint Maarten is that the chicas are far from home and don't need to go back early in the morning to take care for their children. They need to be back at the Club only at 11am. In many places, the so called TLN finish in the (very) early morning. I remember in Dominican Republic , I paid 100$ for a so called TLN. I had to pay for condoms, lub, baby milk at the pharmacy, she was hungry, asked me to eat before. We arrived only at 3am at my hotelroom. She asked to leave at 5am as she needed to take care of her baby, asked me money again for taxi. Well, this was not anymore a TLN for 100$, but a quicky for 200$!

There are quantity of other good things about Saint Maarten: its a paradise island, there are upscale touristic facilities with direct flights to USA and Europe and best of all, prostitution is safe and legal (remember, it's a Dutch island).

I can deal with unsafe third world countries in South America, and I'm happy to monger there too. I love diversity and discovering new hunting grounds. But I can understand that some prefer to pay a bit more and a be in a developped and securred environment. It's a matter of personal choice.

[Zing23]

I have a question - and this is a serious question, not an invitation to a flame war:

Why would you travel to St Maartin (I assume you are traveling there, not a resident) and pay $345 USD for a chica for TLN? I realize she was probably really hot. They make them that way in Colombia. And I am sure the sexo was just as hot. But I can get TLN here at home from some pretty damned hot Brazillian strippers working on the side for less than that. I can get TLN in Costa Rica from some mighty fine Colombianas, or just as fine Ticas, for $100 - $150 USD. I can go to Aruba and get just as fine a Colombiana for $40 in house. I've never tried for TLN in Aruba, so don't know the going rate, but I doubt if it would come to $345. Again, I am not looking for a flame war here. I would appreciate a serious reply.

standard rate for a hot colombiana in house in st maarten is $40, about the same as aruba, a bit more than curucao.

the rate for overnight is totally negotiable.

do you want her to start at 8pm or are you willing to wait until they close at 2am (so she can have 4 or more clients before you)? is she in high demand most nights? then she will ask more! is she not busy? then less money. the going rate is $200 to $300 per night, but I am sure some guys pay less. it is similar with the room time - officially 20-25 minutes for $40, but I am usually in the room 45 to 90 minutes, sometimes 2 hours. same $40. depends on the girl.

I haven't ever taken TLN myself, due to scheduling problems, but I can see the charm of it. The base price is $45 to the house. After that it is up to your negotiating skills and charm.

The main advantage that St Maarten has over the stripper in the usa is that prostitution is legal in st maarten. And you have nice warm weather and beaches, etc.

-zing

[Delaware Guy]

I have a question - and this is a serious question, not an invitation to a flame war:

She was very comfortable with sex and had a strong GFE potential, therefore I was considering to have a TLN. She asked for USD 300 + 45 “multa” (i.e. fine to pay to the management) for the night.

Why would you travel to St Maartin (I assume you are traveling there, not a resident) and pay $345 USD for a chica for TLN? I realize she was probably really hot. They make them that way in Colombia. And I am sure the sexo was just as hot. But I can get TLN here at home from some pretty damned hot Brazillian strippers working on the side for less than that. I can get TLN in Costa Rica from some mighty fine Colombianas, or just as fine Ticas, for $100 - $150 USD. I can go to Aruba and get just as fine a Colombiana for $40 in house. I've never tried for TLN in Aruba, so don't know the going rate, but I doubt if it would come to $345. Again, I am not looking for a flame war here. I would appreciate a serious reply.

[Zing23]

Dancing: the girls will not necessarily like to come out dancing because they hear music all the time. They may prefer to go and see a movies (there is a complex in Simpson road). But if you go out dancing with her, my advice is to go to “La Chapelle” in Orient Bay (French side) on Thursdays from 11pm. They are very good salsero there and a nice restaurant.

Thanks for the great reports and the tips. I like your advice about the dancing, because it is an example of a new theory that I have been working on: ask the girls what they like!

Seems simple, but it is so easy to just assume what they will like. And the downside of that approach is that is causes you to do things that they have probably seen/heard/done a hundred times before with a hundred other hombres. It takes something that shows personal knowledge/concern for them to shake them out of their professonal persona (of course you don't want to do something so overwhelmingly thoughtful that they start to think of you as their boyfriend).

I have an example from yesterday. I had been visiting Luisa at Seamans for about 6 weeks and the sessions were getting better and better (she leaves for Colombia on Thursday, so don't bother to look in rm 9 after that). After the 2nd week, I asked her what musician was her favorite. And without hesitation she said "Joan Sebastian". I had her write in down and looked it up on Amazon and ordered some CDs.

Turns out the Joan Sebastian is a man, an old time singer in Colombia. He sings ballades and old fashioned dance tunes - very Colombian, not like the Latina music I had been listening to, or that they play in the brothels (reggaeton, hip hop, etc.). Luisa told me that all women in Colombia love him.

Yesterday I was sitting at the bar at Defiance with three Colombianas and let them look through my music CDs. Isobela from Cali completely perked up when she saw Joan Sebastian. She could not believe that I had it. She asked the bartender to put it on the sound system - and all of a sudden the 3 chicas were dancing and singing along to "25 Rosas", his most famous hit. As the familiar songs rolled on, Colombianas around the room started dancing, and singing and clapping along. They knew all the words of every song. It was as if I had turned a switch and changed their personalities.

If I hadn't listened to Luisa, I would never have seen this. An obvious CD of Shakira, the most internationally famous singer from Colombia, does not have this impact on the girls from Colombia.

-zing

[Routard]

Excellent reports Jan Chris, it gives a good idea about the atmosphere of the Saint Maarten scene. Sorry to read your experience with Nathalie. I seldom had to experience any problem myself in Saint Maarten, but it may happen of course, each chica is different. More interesting is to see how the management deals with such issue. The boss is the kind of guy you 'd better not want to fool, I would have spelled his name Jimmy. But I know he is extremely business oriented and I'm not surprised to hear he took a fair decision. He is not only customer oriented, the chicas also have at Carolina the best working conditions. He genuinely tries to bring his business to the best level, that's why Carolina became in a short period of time the best brothel of Saint Maarten.

[Jan Chris]

Following my previous report, I think you’d be interested to know about this unfortunate event that happened to me.

I had remarked Nathalie, because she is small (which I like) and has a blond long hair, is only 22 but looks older, implants. She has an angel face and a fantastic smile. I was very eager to have sex with this little horny girl.

a) First session: We had a date at 11 am, but when I arrived, she was still asleep with her partner. I said I was sorry and I could come later, but she insisted I should stay. So, we made it silently while her friend was half-asleep, but none of us did mind! She was very comfortable with sex and had a strong GFE potential, therefore I was considering to have a TLN. She asked for USD 300 + 45 “multa” (i.e. fine to pay to the management) for the night.

b) Second session: My night with her ended up in a nightmare. We came out dancing, and when returning, she said she had forgotten condoms therefore we needed to come back to Carolina. While I was waiting in the car, they closed the bar at 2.30am but Nathalie came from the back and told me this story: there was a big fight between some other girls and her roommate, so she needed to stay with her to ensure her security. She was very nervous and her mobile was keeping on ringing all the time, therefore I accepted to let her go provided we would resume the session another day. I even agreed to pay another fine because I knew they would charge her again. We agreed to meet at 1am the following day, I had prepared a nice and romantic date, but guess what? She had gone with another client before I arrived! The following morning, I left a written note under her door asking for explanation, but on the evening, she said she did not see it. I asked again for explanations, she replied that I had my session and she had to continue to work and that was all!

I thought it was really unfair, that she had not completed her part of the contract, and I was so frustrated that I decided to complain to the management. Before, I asked advice to a couple of chicas, who strongly encouraged me to do so. They told me there was no fight on this Thursday that no one was hurt, and that other customers had previously had some problems with Nathalie. They directed me to the “dueno”, called Jaime (not sure about spelling). He is a strong black French guy, speaks very good Spanish and English. He asked me very precise questions (such as whether she sucked me in the car…), then he requested her presence. She gave contradictory explanations and was “fined” to refund me 150 USD. He did not accused her of lying, but justified his decision on the ground of professional misbehavior (a chica always need to have condoms, no one would agree to pay 300 USD for not for having sex). The manager has a lot of authority and neither Nathalie nor I could really challenge his decision, and as far as I was concerned I felt I had won a battle on the principle. There were a lot of customers around watching this Salomon judgment. Nathalie was in a furry against Jaime, she neither looked at me once, nor apologized. Needless to say that her story of the fighting with the girls was pure invention.
I thanked my two guardian angels for their good advice by giving them a nice tip. The important number of witnesses and the gossips between the girls will probably arm more Nathalie’s reputation than this report, I guess.

Conclusions:

a) Be careful of this girl. She is extremely cute and I would have sold my soul for her, but she is the devil incarnated
b) Trust more you intelligence than your feelings: in this story, there were some strange elements that should have alerted me.
c) If you have a problem, speak with some girls first, ask for their advice, then make up your mind and eventually speak to the manager or his wife (Isabel). They are not necessarily on the side on the chicas, because they want the club to run smoothly and customers to know that they are safe. On the other hand, I think they will not hesitate to back the girls with the same determination if a customer behaves inadequately. Carolina seems to be very business oriented, the Dutch way as I like…

[Jan Chris]

a) Seaman’s

In fact, I found the quality was down in this mythic place.

- Catalina (room 1): a small cute face 26 year’s old brunette. Average body, but nice smile. Has arrived on 9 June. She was sweet and I liked her childish attitude, but she is already the mother of two girls! So not so childish! Nice personality, but maybe lack of experience to know how to satisfy a man. Not on the top of my list.

- Anita: The best sessions I had, but since she leaves on Monday, it does not really make sense that I go into much details. PM me if necessary.

- Eliena (room 14): pretty girl, she has natural C-cup breast, the session was OK but too quick.

b) Carolina

The quality and quantity remains reasonably high here compared to my last trip:

- Lina (room 5): a slim lady (although she is the mother of one child), 26 but looks older, blond hair, with implants. My first session was great! She talked a lot, but was eager to please me. Lots of kisses, even French, which is exceptional. I thought it would be hard to choose someone else after her, but I still had 6 more days to come!
Needless to say that I chose her as my first TLN… and I was disappointed. She was but the shadow of herself, she told me she was exhausted. Whatever her reasons were, it was rather frustrating for me. She had the courtesy to apologize. Overall, it was a waste of time and money.

- Diana (room 11) is a genuine Playboy type of woman: rather tall, blond hair, small nose, and a C/D cup breast that looks natural. Zing23 report is accurate. Sex was nothing exceptional, and I finally realize she could be a better friend than a sex partner. We exchange ideas about our feelings (we both fell in love in a brothel). We finally became so confident, that I can say I met a true friend, therefore we both decided not have any session together. From this moment my desire for her transformed into a sort of admiration for this attractive body. Do not expect to have GFE with her, she has someone in her mind. Please treat her well.

- Jane (room 12): she is a 26 years old girl, very slim, blond hair, very pleasant and quite personality. At first, I thought her breasts were natural, and it was only when I saw the small scar under the nipples that I knew they weren’t. But her surgeon (an Argentinean practicing in Colombia, Mr. Hans Harry Bonnet) has made a fantastic job! The session was pleasant but it did not change my priority list.

- Jacqueline (room 2 or 3): strange voice, very slim, rounded shaped breast. We did not have sex, cos I was not in the mood, but she gave me a nice massage. Good character.

- Mariana (room 14) has arrived two weeks ago and must be the younger of the group. Furthermore, she is just starting in the circuit. She was not on the top of my list, but I discovered a nice body, and her breast, tough not very large are very soft and completely natural. I had a TLN session with her. Due to her lack of experience, do not expect to have a GFE.

- Nathalie (room 13): our session has been marred by unexpected events, therefore I will do a specific report on her.

c) Defiance

I was quite surprised to see some pretty girls there but with more African descent ladies than in the other brothels.

- Juliana is a 24 years old, rather tall, white-skinned girl, with long black hair. Was very soft, but no GFE. Her breasts are really nice to touch, but they have a big scar I would have preferred to do without. No regret as my thoughts were already towards a real cutie I had spotted before, but who was busy with another guy.

- Her name is Samantha. God, she has a body to die for! She has a long black hair and although being the mother of one child, she is very slim. Her face is cute, looks a little bit sad. To my point of view, the best looking girl of Defiance. She has arrived two weeks ago. Her service was quite mechanical (no French kisses) but somehow exciting. During the night session I had with her, there was not very much enthusiasm from her side. However, as I dropped her in Defiance, I was still hypnotized by her body.

My TLN sessions were disappointing except with Anita. I was happier on different occasions here and in other places. I still have enough consideration to understand that these girls are exhausted but I decided to forget about these long sessions and come back to these 20 minutes ones for my last days. I only made an exception with Anita.

My advice: always have an “emergency plan” if you hope to date with one chica. Do not entirely pay them in advance if you can. Take them out at 8pm, not 2am.