St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Regulr Travlr]

Thanks Routard

Very comprehensive report. As I mentiond I have really enjoyed the island and the people on my brief visits. I will definitely be booking a stay here. My goals is to save up enough cash and time to do a little island hopping.

Thanks for your comments also Alan and 3199.

[Routard]

sint maarten is my favourite island in the caribbean. high standard hotels, marvellous beaches with crystal clear water, all [CodeWord117] available, tax free shopping, excellent dinning especially on the french side, casinos everywhere on the dutch side, very nice beach bars with life music (watching the airplanes landing right above the beach at the sunset bar is a must), and extended night life.

sint maarten is the smallest piece of land shared by two countries. this small island 70km2 and 70000 inhabitants has two power generators for two different electrical networks, the 50hz 220v european standards for the french side and 60hz 110v us standards for the dutch side. there are also two telephone networks, to call the french side 00 590, and to call the dutch side 00 599. but when driving around the island, you will not even notice when you cross the boarder.

official languages are french on the french side and dutch on the dutch side, but the most used language is english. however, in the dutch brothels, most girls speak only spanish.

how to get there

the international air traffic is managed by juliana airport on the dutch side.

from europe, there are daily air france and corsair flights from paris, and klm flights from/to amsterdam.

from northern america, there are daily american airlines, continental airlines and us airlines flights from/to us and air canada flights from canada.

winair has flights to santo domingo, tortolla, anguilla, saba, eustatius, nevis, st kitt’s, dominica,and antigua. air jamaica has flights to/from jamaica.

dca has flights to/from curaçao. bwie has flights to/from trinidad. both can be used as a stop over for south america.

the smaller airport grand case on the french side has daily air caraibes and air antilles flights from/to guadeloupe, martinique, sint barth but also santo domingo.

no visa is required.

money

the official currency on the dutch side is the naf, and the euro on the french side. however, the most used currency is the us dollar. as the tourism is focused on us tourists, nearly everywhere, including for our hobby the rule is: 1$us=1€. so my best advise is to pay always in $us, it will save you up to 20%. there are atm everywhere, and they delivery the 3 currencies.

safety

sint maarten is very safe. there is crime related to drug, but as a tourist you will not notice it. yes, even crime will take care not to bother the tourists! for any medical emergency, my advice is to head for the hospital in marigot. it’s a small hospital, but it is on french standards, and if they can’t handle it, they will manage the transfer to guadeloupe. never forget that on the french side, you are in eec.

lodging

my advice is to book hotel together with the air flight with a travel agent. once in sint maarten, unless you can use the business rates for local companies, it will be much more expensive.

my advice is to take a hotel at orient bay on the french side, the most beautiful beach of sint maarten (with even a nude section!), with excellent animation and not too far from the brothels. alamanda resort (0590 52 87 40), blue beach (0590 87 33 34), cap caraibes (0590 52 94 94), capri (0590 87 42 14), caribbean princess (0590 52 94 94), esmeralda (0590 87 36 36), green cay (0590 87 38 63), plantation (0590 29 58 00), l’hoste (0590 87 42 08), orient bay (0590 87 31 10), palm court (0590 87 41 94), st tropez (0590 87 42 01).

another great place is maho, close to most dutch night life places, but far from the brothels. mullet bay (543 2801), the towers (545 3069), caravanseral (545 4000), royal islander (545 2388), maho bay (545 2115), atrium (542 2126), flamingo (544 3900), horny toad guest house (545 4323), la chatelaine (545 4269), royal palm (544 3737), simpson bay yacht club (544 2799), tradewinds (544 4206), turquoise (545 2846).

if you want to be the close to the brothels, head either to oyster point: captain oliver (0590 87 40 26), caravelle (0590 87 39 49), colombus (0590 87 42 52), sol ambiance (0590 29 38 00), soleil de minuit (0590 87 34 66) oyster bay (543 60 40) princess heights (543 6906) or to phillipsburg: caribbean (542 2028), great bay (542 2446), holland house (542 2572), horizon view (543 2110), mid town (542 6837), passangrahan (542 3588), sea palace (542 2700), seaview (542 23 23).

local transport

there are taxis everywhere, but they tend to be expensive. for example to head to seamen’s club from the airport, it’s 20$. as you have to come back also, it will be 40$. for that price, you can rent a car. all international rental car companies are available at airport: hertz, avis, budget… they tend to be more expensive than the local companies which are also reliable. try this one, available at both airports: united (phone 00 599 545 2616 or 00 590 771016). they have new small automatic ac cars for 35€/day and it’s reliable.

strip club

platinium at maho beach resort is the best strip club, with 20-30 gorgeous girls from eastern europe and canada. g string lap dance for 20$, private nude lap dance is 30$ for one song. sex is not available, i tried it once, and she professionally advised me to head for casablanca or seamen’s club!

other strip clubs are golden eyes in simpson bay and solid gold at atlantis world casino in cupecoy mullet bay. there is also a strip club named cat outside the tourism area, on the road north of salt pond. most customers are locals. girls are mainly from english speaking caribbean islands (jamaica...). here, sex is available, as girls do all nighters for 150-200$.

brothels

they are all on the same track. it starts at the traffic light close to the police office on the north part of phillipsburg, on the road along the salt pond. at this traffic light (our starting point km 0), you'll notice a building with "university" spelled on in. just take that road toward the university. after a few 100m, it becomes a sand road. on your right you will see a stadium, on your left you have "le petit chateau" (400m from the starting point). go further until the road starts again to become asphalted. again on your left you will have "crystal club” and on you right “carolina” in front of crystal club (1km from starting point). at the t crossing go right until you cross again the main road between phillipsburg and oyster pond. take this road left, toward oyster pond. after 100m, you will find on your left side "seamen’s club" (1.5km from starting point). continuing on the road towards oyster pond, you will find just after having past a top "kapper bar" or "defiance" on your right hand (3km from starting point). further on the road downhill you will have on your right "sunset bar" (4.5km from starting point). continue straight on and just before oyster pond on a hill at the right side "casablanca" or "border bar" (5km from starting point). the pictures attached to the report make the brothels more easy to find.

you are free to enter and to exit of all these bars without paying anything (drinks starts from 2$). so feel free to check them all and make your own opinion. all these clubs are safe.

even if you are with your wife, and even if you are only spending the day coming from a cruise ship, drop her at phillipsburg for shopping and take a 6$ cab for a 5min drive to the brothels. it’s open even at daytime. don’t feel guilty, as you will not be able to spend as much as your wife will do on shopping!

le petit chateau

this place open’s in the afternoon till 3am.it is a big place with bar and pools, but there are mainly locals. however, don't feel uncomfortable being the only white guy, as we are in caribbean. if it will be noticed that you are alone, most of the time somebody will offer you a drink. but for the action you are looking for, it is not worth. dominican girls, overage and/or overweighed (rate 3-5). rates are 40$, but can be bargained to 30$.

crystal club

this is the worst club, i never stayed more than 1 minute. no tourists, a few dominican girls, overage and/or overweighed (rate 3-5). rates can be as low as 25$, but room facilities are poor.

carolina

this is a hidden gem. i just discovered it during my last visit, even if i know sint maarten quite well for already a few years. it’s in front of crystal club, but it’s confusing as it has a barber/beauty parlor in front, as well as a regular restaurant. once inside the building, you will notice the door to the club. the club looks like a disco, with bar and stage. about 20 girls aged 20-30 rated 5-8 from colombia. this club has by far the most upscale facilities from all the brothels. it’s a former hotel, the rooms are clean, ac with individual bathrooms. there are even a few apartments, as well as a vip area with jacuzzi and karaoke! this area can be hired with a small group of friends: make your private fkk! the girls/men ratio is excellent, as this club is not well known. rates are 40$ for 25min, but the girls take there time. the club starts at 10am till 3am, however most girls don’t spend all daytime waiting for customers. escort is available for 150-200$ a day and a bar fee of 45$. you can even stay at night in a room for 50$/room+150-200$/girl. if you have no hotel, it may be considered, as rooms are ok.

seamen’s club

this used to be my favourite club. this place is supposed to cater for seamen. as most nowadays are from cruise ships at sint maarten on daytime, there is quite a lot animation even on afternoon. the club opens at 11am and closes at 3am. don’t be scared by the bad guys in front of the door, they are only taxi drivers waiting for customers.

i like the atmosphere of this bar. inside, you have some sea related items, reminding you the name of the place. in the evening, there is a snack opening at the parking where you can eat some snacks.. during day time, there are only 5 to 10 chicas, and as much customers. during night-time, there are around 25 to 30 chicas, and 30 to 40 customers. the chicas are aged 20-25 from colombia and rated 5-8. there is a wide diversity under the customers: japanese and filipino seamen’s, black locals, white tourists, latinos, you name it. there is always some nice music, mostly latin music, as the lady behind the bar is from dominican republic. the atmosphere is very relaxed, no hassling from the girls, no bad behaviour from the customers. i even noticed several local groups (white french from the french side) accompanied with their wife or girl friend pass along having a drink.

most are from colombia (especially cali), and some from dominican republic. they are on 3-month contract (for visa reasons) and can not come back in sint maarten before 1 year. they work hard in order to bring back money to their family. most have everyday telephone contact with their family in columbia, as it is their only motivation. most of these girls are probably not working girls when they are back at home in their own country. during their stay, the chicas live two in one ac room, every room having one large bed. the shower and wc are shared by two rooms. lunch and dinner is offered in the kitchen area (not allowed for customers). the chicas are not allowed to get out, or they have to pay a fine at the bar, the same you have to pay to get her out (60$). at 9pm, they must be there, as they have to register themselves in a book at the bar. if you are at that moment at the bar, you are sure to see all of them. a white lady, the kind of one you won't expect in such place is the manager in charge (the owner itself is a guy from st maarten, but you will never see him there). she takes great care about the chicas. this explains may be why the atmosphere is much more relaxed here than in the other clubs

the going rate is 40$ for 20 min bj and fs protected. you may get down the price to 30$. if you ask for it, you can use the shower in the room. escort is also possible. day escorting starting from 11 am till 9pm (as they must be back again at 9pm) or evening escorting from 9pm to 3 pm. starting price is 300$, but you may get it down to 100$. you have to pay the bar fine (60$) separately from the chica. i once managed to get a chica out for 50$ during daytime, as she just arrived and was curious to look around the island. but most of the time, she just will calculate the money she would have earned by staying at the club. the 8 rating chicas will not go for 100$. there are a few 9 rated chicas you will nearly never spot in the club, as they work mostly on escort basis.

i have excellent memories at this place, it’s here that i started to learn spanish and where i made my first salsa steps. yes, my latina addiction started here!

defiance/kapper’s

a good parking lot, a snack outside, rooms from a former hotel, and a disco where you can meet the chicas. few tourists, about 10-15 girls, age 20-30, rated 4-6, most are dominican with a few colombianas. going rate is 40$ fs and bj. th place opens in the afternoon and closes at 3am.

sunset retreat

opens in the evening till 3am. this place looks like a disco with 5-10 girls mostly dominicanas rated 4-6. customers are locals. going rate is 30-40$ for fs and bj

casa blanca / border bar

casablanca is the biggest brothel with nice facilities (including a restaurant) and 30-40 girls. most are from dominican republic. customers are a mix of tourists and locals. it opens in the afternoon and closes at 5am. they make the girls go on stage for strip shows. but sorry, i don't like it. it is a hard core brothel, i rate the girls 4-6, with most 4. i find their attitude also too aggressive, a lot of hassling. to go to the room, you have to pay 45$ or 45€ through a small window, before you are allowed to enter the bedroom area with the girl. rooms are air-conditioned, have a bathroom and are rather clean.

swing club

there is a swing club at the french side, club 241 (0690 50 41 70). however, this is a resort, and you have to book your stay before. it's only for couples. the website is www.club241.net.

escort

selina are advertising as a swing club, but they can arrange escorting. i have never experienced it, but it has been reported that pricing is 150$/night including the room and a bottle of wine, which is a bargain. if you are looking for a hotel to stay, the girl is included! girls are caribbean. the contact is through email: www.selina-libertin.com.

general opinion

sint maarten is imho the best place for action in the caribbean. i know that most will consider dominican republic to be better. yes, dr is much bigger and offer much more action opportunities than sint maarten. but for some reason i don’t like dr action. i’m a latina lover, and dominican girls are not latinas but caribbean. you have to act more as a macho with dominican, else they will not respect you. it’s clearly about money, they will not help you to forget it. the colombian girls, like most latinas, are feminine, sensual and passionate. if you give bfe, she will give you gfe. if you have the right feeling, and for this you will need to speak spanish, have some knowledge about latin culture, including salsa dancing skills, those girls will give their heart and soul. it’s in seamen’s club that i experienced for the first time giving a genuine orgasm to a sex worker.

curaçao has also good action with colombian chicas, but there is mainly only one brothel (campo allegre), even if it is the biggest of the caribbean. sint maarten in comparison offers much more diversity in places.

i made also a report about cuba, but imho, cuba can not be considered as a mongering country, as there are no brothels, only amateur action is available.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=1111

i added also a pic of a chica i met in carolina. this is not a porn pic, just a nice picture from a nice girl, only for informative purpose about the kind of girls to expect here. my last memory of her was when she waved at me from the main door to say goodby. she was a very interesting person, there was a good chemistry. she gave me her phone number, hoping i would come back. it's heartbreaking leaving such a sweat nice girl in her shit.

[Zing23]

First is a picture of the Seaman's Club. It is set back in a fenced parking lot (good security for your car). The inside is not as upscale looking. plain concrete , but the girls are cute.

Second is a picture of the Petite Chateau, which is set in a big dirt area
across from the Little League stadium. When it rains, this area is a mud pile.
I haven't been inside yet.

Read the earlier reports for precise driving instructions.

[Alan]

Friend,

Just remember that most of the P4P action is not near the airport though. The closer to the city you are the better for you. Seamens and all the others are in the same vicinity near the town area about half an hour from the airport and the main hotels.

Alan

[Member #3199]

Try "Mary's Boon". You can probably google it and find all the info. I stayed there for a few days and it was just terrific! Right on the beach by the airport, and during the day the planes land almost right on top of you, but it is more exciting than irritating. No noise at night.

They have a bar submerged in the pool which is neat.

[Regulr Travlr]

I have been on the island a couple of times on a cruise. We just hung out at the beach near the pier. Had a great time.

I would like to spend a few days here on a trip around the Caribbean. Where are some decent places to stay on the Dutch side.

Thanks

[Notidik]

This was the first and best girl that i had on this day and she loved the camera.

This girl has the butt of the century! Keep it up, lucky guy....

[Chris H]

This was the first and best girl that i had on this day and she loved the camera.

[Chris H]

I would not go with the girl unless she was ready to take some pics!!

[Chris H]

Enjoy!!!! I love how the girls are not camera shy!!

[Chris H]

I finally made it down to St. Maarten, and all I can say is UNREAL!! The bars here blow Tijuana a way!!!! The price for beer at all the bars are $2, and that is even the price for the ladies too. The girls do not try to rip you off, and you don't have to worry about corrupt police, and the price to have a great time with a beautiful is $40 at the most, and there is no stupid knock on the door trying to rush you. for the guys on the board who have been to TJ, or read the TJ board know what I am talking about. Lets get started with some details.


Seamens Club--

Hands down the best place on the island. The women are AWESOME, SEXY, and willing to do what ever for a nice price. And don't forget all beers are only $2, mixed drinks are $3. I don't remember any of the girls names that I did but I do have pics. The place starts hopping around 11am, and I have no idea how long it is open.


Defiance---

Another great club, but not as many girls walking around. I only did one girl from here, but would be sure to visit this bar again.


Le Petit--


The road to this bar has been fixed somewhat, and it is worth the drive to see these SEXY women walking around half naked, ready to FUCK.

I went to one other bar, but can't remember the name of it. Enjoy the pics!!!

[Ricker]

el cuerpo ... the body ... is a masculine noun in espanol ... always takes the masculine adjective too ...

"tienes un cuerpo bonito" ... for man or woman.

Suerte!

[Regulr Travlr]

Grand Pollo and Routard,

Thank you very much for your language guides. They should find a home somewhere else on this forum where more people will get to them.

I am planning a trip to spanish speaking countries in the fall and this will be added to my study guide.

Traveller

[Grand Pollo]

There are many mistakes in the Spanish for a guidebook for rookies and since we want to educate mongers here are the proper ways to say this, (see corrections in parenthesis)

Remember nouns and adjectives are feminine for women, querer "to want" is coarse vs. to like something (I'd like a Coke is nicer than I want a Coke). Learn how to use gustar. This guide with corrections is still useful.

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She will insist asking why: "Porque?". (por que? - porque is because)

If she insists by you don't want girls? "No quiro (quieres or quiere for you, quiero is I) Chicas?" answer this time you want a girl, but a girl in particular: "Quiero una chica, pero une (una - female) chica (no en) particular" (or especial).

Take a beer at the bar by asking: "Quiro (quiero) una cerbeza" or if you prefer Coca Cola "Quiero una Coca Cola". Ask the price "Cuanto es (cuanto cuesta or cuanto vale) ?".

(Note "quiero" is an abrupt way to ask for someting, use Gustaria instead -gustaria una coca cola.)

Have a look around, and as usual the most beautiful girls will not approach you. Do it yourself with this magical sentence:"Olah (Hola) chica!". If you recognize her from the last time, say you are happy to see her again: "Me alegro (alegre -to me is pleasing) de verte".


How old are you "Cuanto anos (años - with a "nasal n sound" since anos asks how many anuses do you have) tienes?"

Your eyes turn me crazy "Tus oyos (ojos - pronounced ohos) me vuelven loco" (Better to say Tus ojos me hacen loco - make me loco vs. return to me)

You are the most beautiful girl here "Eres la chica mas guapa de aqui" ( la mayor is the best, mas is more without a comparitive. This says you are the more pretty of here - Say eres la mayor bonita que todas otras chicas aqui - you are the most beautiful girl here).

I like your smile "Me gusta to (tu) sonrisa"
I like your perfume "Quiero (Me gusta) tu perfume" - (This says I want your perfume - you want to say I like your perfume).

You have a wonderful body "Tienes un cuerpo bonito" (cuerpa bonita for feminine adjectives and nouns - unless she is a man)

What a nice hair "Que pelo!" (This is just what hair! which could be insulting as it is often odd enough looking - Que pelo bonita! - what pretty hair)

Try to become more personal, asking if her parents are in Colombia "Tus padres viven en Columbia" (?), do you have children "Tienes hijos" (?), do you have brother and sisters "tengas (Tienes - tengas is subjunctive not indicative) hermanos y hermanas?"

Say that it is not easy working here and having her children there "No es facil trabajar aqui y (con - with, not y - and) tus hijos en Colombia".

Ask her if she wants to drink anything :"Quieres beber (tomar)( is used for beverages) algo".

After a while, she will bring you back to business and ask you to go to the room. She will usually give you the price. Els you may ask "Cuanto es (Cuanto cuesta or vale)?"

GFE:"No quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer el (no el) amor".

"Puedo tomar una ducha?" (Puedo ducharme?) and add that it will be nicer for her "Es mas agradable para ti tambien". (Try Quiero que vengas en la ducha conmigo por favor - I want you to come in the shower with me)

If you want to ask her for a BJ, ask her "Puedes chupparme" (Chuparme, and this asks if she can - say quiero que me chupes _ iwant you to suck me - you need the subjunctive)

If you feel she is wet enough, you can try all your favorite positions. The doggy style is "Perrito", if you want her to come on you ask "Puedes venir arriba" (Many Latinas use terminar which means to finish, for this, not venir, which means come to us and not always to them. I am not sure she can come on you - of you want to come on her just come on her and don't bother asking.)

[Zing23]

The legal brothels in St Maarten are never mentioned in the tourist literature and seldom mentioned in the newspaper.

Recently a girl was robbed at the Seaman's Club and it made it into the Daily Herald newspaper. Here is the online link

http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/d.../exotic75.html

In case the link doesn't work, here is the story:

Man steals over US $1,000
from exotic dancer’s purse

PHILIPSBURG--Police are investigating an incident in which a man who had gone to Seamen’s Club in Sucker Garden entered the room of one of the exotic dancers and stole more than US $1,000 from her purse while she was in the bathroom.

Police spokesman Inspector Johan “Janchi” Leonard said the incident had occurred around 4:00pm Thursday. He said the victim had told police the suspect had fled the scene in a waiting vehicle before security could catch him.

It appears that the man had made a special arrangement with the dancer, A.A.G. (30) of Colombia, for which he was expected to make payments. He entered the dancer’s room and removed US $1,000 and 300 euros she had in a black purse in the room.

When she exited the bathroom, the suspect had already left the room. She allegedly saw the purse was on the ground and ran out to stop the suspect after she saw that it was empty, but was too late.

She reported the matter to police that same day and detectives have been out in search of the suspect.