St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[PogoStick]

Another visit to Carolinas in St Maarten.

The bartender told me that in order to take a chica out of the club, you must pay a $35 bar fine. I don't know if this covers all night, but I suspect that it does (the bar only charges $3 to go to the room with a chica).

Another thing I learned is that the chicas must have regular medical tests, since it happened while I was there. They must turn in the doctors ok report to the house. I will find out how often and thorough these tests are next time, but knowing medical care in the caribbean, I wouldn't expect them to be too professional.

Regarding pogostick's "black haired beauty" in this post, her name is Viviana (pronounced bee-bee-an- a, with a pronounced as in "saw"). She is from Cali and is very sweet, if you treat her nicely. Highly recommended.

Yep, Viviana is her name. She is definately a sweety.

Actually, the medical system on SXM is very good. There will be a medical school opening in the next year or two that should be the best in the Caribbean.

My last day in Aruba I met a real beauty from Bogota at the Baranca Bar. I'll upload a picture when I get home.

In Curacao now but due to late night dinners with clients I haven't had a chance to hit Campo. Hopefully I will before I leave.

Pogo

[Zing23]

Another visit to Carolinas in St Maarten.

The bartender told me that in order to take a chica out of the club, you must pay a $35 bar fine. I don't know if this covers all night, but I suspect that it does (the bar only charges $3 to go to the room with a chica).

Another thing I learned is that the chicas must have regular medical tests, since it happened while I was there. They must turn in the doctors ok report to the house. I will find out how often and thorough these tests are next time, but knowing medical care in the caribbean, I wouldn't expect them to be too professional.

Regarding pogostick's "black haired beauty" in this post, her name is Viviana (pronounced bee-bee-an- a, with a pronounced as in "saw"). She is from Cali and is very sweet, if you treat her nicely. Highly recommended.

[Zing23]

Went back to Carolina yesterday around 12:30pm. About 15 men and 25 chicas. I was looking for a chica from Cali called Valentina for a repeat (see reports below), since Anji had left for Curacao.

Lots of cute chicas available, but I was determined to wait for the right one this time! Got a drink from the bar, then spotted 2 chicas sitting against the far wall with a spare chair. Smiled and went to sit down. Discovered that this is a good location for watching the club - next to the door to the restaurant, some sun light comes in and allows you to see everyone in the club!

The first chica was brown haired, petite, slim, but curvy, with nice breasts and a beautiful delicate face. The second chica was taller, blond, more built, not as beautiful. After the obligatory hola-como estas, but before where-are-you-from and what-is-your name, they immediately asked me if I wanted two girls. This has happened to me before in St Maarten, so must be a common service. As I am novice mongerer and still getting the hang of P4P, I haven't partaken yet.

I said thank you, but I was looking for a chica, a particular chica. The slim one says, oh you are selective-good. I reply, I am looking for a chica named Valentina. They both stare at me with mouths dropped open!

It turns out that there were 3 Valentinas in the club, and they were TWO of THEM! They pointed out the 3rd Valentina across the room, wrapped around a client at the bar.

Since "my Valentina" was occupied and this Valentina-confusion allowed for a good conversation, I eventually went to the room with the slim Valentina from Bogata.

Excellent session. Once undressed it turned out that the curvy breasts that appeared enhanced in the club on such a slim girl, were actually quite natural and only helped by a push-up bra. This was a nice surprise for me as I prefer tetas naturales.

Unrushed. Lots of kisses and embraces and play. Long DATY at her request, BBBJ, Covered FS in 3 positions, nice GFE except for resistance to DFK. No discussion of money, I just paid the standard $40 and added a large tip separately.

Ran into the original Valentina in the restaurant, tried to get her number, but she is going back to Columbia for Christmas on Monday. Told Valentina #3 that I would see her next time.

[PogoStick]

Does anyone have the address for Carolina's in St. Maarten???

I don't have the address, but will try to describe how to get there.

From downtown, take the little road that goes to the University and Stadium. It quickly becomes a rough dirt road. After a while you will see Petite Chateau on your left. Keep going, around a curve to the left until you get to the entrance to the landfill. The road becomes paved at this point. Turn right and after aboyt a half mile you will see 2 bars on either side of the road. The one one the left is Crystals and the right is Carolinas.

Or head towards Seamans from downtown. Just before Seamans you'll see a road with a sign on your left pointing to St Maarten Park. Turn left on that road and soon you'll see the New Era Store (small convienience/grocery) Turn let on the road just past the store and you'll see the two bars about 2 blocks down.

Good luck and happy mongering!

Pogo

[Zing23]

I'm currently on St Maarten ...
Pogo

Thanks for the report. It captures the excitement that is St Maarten. There must be at least 150 chicas working in the various places on a good week. You never know what is going to show up.

[PogoStick]

I'm currently on St Maarten.

Went to Seamans the other day for the first time in a while. (I usually go to CasaBlanca)

There wasn't much action and after a quick beer I was about to leave when a rather pretty and TALL chica approached me. I usually like very petite spinners with small tops, but there was something about her that I just had to give her a try.

We head to her room and undressed. She was HOT! She gets right down to a CBJ with no prelude. Gets me off in just a short time. So I figure I just got ripped off by a good fast sucker and it was over.

But instead, she gives me one of the best massages I've ever had, then gets in bed with me and snuggles for a while. Next thing I know she is playing with the little stick which led to a great BBBJ and CFS that lasted quite a whille.

She turned it into a good GFE Her name is Chyna and she is here for another 2 months.

Last night I cruised Defiance and Casa Blanca. Defience was pretty slow, but had some very fine chicas. It was still early so I headed up to Casablanca to check the scene there. I ran into a chica I did last month and we partied for a while. Good, but nothing special.

I then decided to check out Carolinas. It was my first time there. I had driven by a few times before, but didn't like the vibes. But after some good posts here I had to try it.

By now it was around midnite. I find my way into the bar and it is packed. Maybe 75 guys and about a dozen girls. I was about to leave, when a hand slides down the back of my pants and gives my ass a squeeze. I turn around and there stands a black haired beauty. She had to be one of the most beautiful chicas I have ever seen in a casa. Her beauty is real. Girl next door type and not the heavy makeup look like a Ho style.

I take her to her room and when she undressed she went from and 8+ to a 9+. Nice soft milk chocolate skin, dark large nipples and an ass that brings tears to your eyes. I stayed in that room with her for 3 hours. We worked on language. She spoke almost no English, which exceeds my Spanish skills. We both ended up a bit more fluent in each others languages. This girl is very intellegent. Hard to believe, but this GFE was even better thab Chyna at Seamans. 3 shots on goal, 3 hours of enjoyable company for ony $. 40. She has only been here for a week so I will definitely see her on my next couple trips.

Next time I promised her a weekend with me in my hotel. At first she wanted $3 for a single TLN, but I got her down to $2 for 3 days/2 nights. I did promise her a weekend of fun. Snorkling, beaches, casinos, good food etc. It will cost a bit for the bar fine ($. 4 per night) but it will be a weekend to remember.

If I could ever fall for a chica, she would be the one.

Hmmmm. I think I'll head over there now!

Pogo

[Zing23]

Since I started visiting the brothels in Sept, I have been trying to follow the advice on this forum. Learn Spanish, talk to the Chicas, create some small relationship, and leverage that into a satisfying session. As I learned to follow these rules and say no to non-responsive chicas, my sessions got a lot better.

Yesterday I was in Seamans and there were almost no customers, because no cruise ships were in port. The chicas were mainly busy putting up Christmas dectorations. I was just going to take a drink and look around when Isobella approached me.

Thin (flaquita), pretty face, enhanced breasts, from Cancun Mexico (a hurricane refugee I guess). I tried all my Chica Spanish on her and never really got a conversation going. In fact, she answered all my simple Spanish with English! She just rubbed up against me and sat in my lap. She was sexy, but based on what I learned on this forum, I thouight the session with her would be disappointing.

Since I had 30 minutes and $40 to spare, I let her take me to the room anyway. Undressed she was still sexy, but her breasts were over-enhanced - in my opinion - she had no nipples left. she would not allow kissing on the lips, or BBBJ or DFK. Her service was a quick CBJ, and a few positions. No carresses, no kisses, no massage. I guess if you are 21 with raging hormones this would work for you, but for older me it was not exciting. After 20 minutes, I told her I wasn't going to come. Note: Based on an unscientific sample of 2 chicas, I now consider knowledge of English a bad indicator. It shows more knowledge of American sexual expecations than is healthy!

Science experiment completed: theories of the ISG board members validated.

If you don't feel any connection and feedback with the chica, don't do the session.

[Tigerman]

Hi all!

Just a quick note to thank Zing23 for his prompt and very useful reply!

Cheers,

Tigerman

[Zing23]

.. would it be a good idea if we could get a page on here catering for translations for some of the more, “useful” hobbyist expressions?

before my first visit to brothels of st maarten, i used a post by routard to get started with chica spanish. he writes:

latinas are sexy, sensual, passionate and sensitive. that's why the experience you will get with a chica depends largely of the chemistry you will be able to build up with her. speaking spanish is mandatory, else you will probably be disappointed. if you don't speak spanish, find hereafter a useful "phrasebook".

i suggest you read his post for the guidelines to chica communication. also helpful were the comments on routard's post by grand polo. below is my version of routard's guide, with grand pollo's corrections and my simplifications. most of the chicas were from columbia, so i will make the examples below refer to columbia.

three tips that i can add to what they suggested:

1) at the start, concentrate on learning a few verbs and nouns. for example, if you want to take a shower with the girl, you can compose an entire sentence in spanish, or you can just say "ducha?" or "ducha, conmigo?" (shower with me?) just adding a question inflection to a single word can make an entire sentence! "bambinos?"

2) when you run out of things to say, or spanish words that you know, ask them what the spanish word is for something. the key is for the sentence to be totally in spanish, except for one english word. if you can point or gesture or pantomine the english word it works for even tough concepts. to ask "how do you say 'lips' in spanish?', you ask "como se dici en espanol 'lips'?". last week i learned that the bum is "cola", at least to mariana from cali.

3) get an inexpensive electronic translator with speech. the one i have does 6 languages and doesn't really pronounce the word very well, but it serves to remind you that spanish vowels have different sounds (i is e, e is a, a is ah, etc.) and to distinquish soft g from hard g, j is h etc. also, once you have made a connection with a chica, you can use the translator to keep communicating! really, it works. in fact, you can even print this posting out and point to phrases on it to communicate!

spanish = english:

hola! = hi!

como estas? = how are you?
...bien, gracias, y tu? = fine, and you?

como te llamas? = what is your name?
... me llamo zing. = my name is zing.

mucho gusto = pleased to meet you

de donde eres? = where are you from?
... america/canada/france/etc.

te gusta st martin? = do you like st maarten? they will answer 'si' or 'no' or "st maarten muy caldo" (st maarten is too hot compared to cali!)

quantos años tienes? = how old are you? (note: pronounce the n like it is 3 nns, with a "nasal n sound", since anos asks how many anuses do you have)

the spanish numbers are not that hard, but in the beginning just use your fingers (3 fingers, then 5 fingers for 35).

habla usted ingles? = do you speak english?

no hablo espanol = i don't speak spanish. but i usually say "poco espanol" which means "a little spanish".

(no) comprendo = i (don't) understand.

repitamelo, por favor = repeat. or just repita.

mas despacio = more slowly.

escribamelo = write it down.

como? = what?

say nice things about your chica:

piel muy suave = very soft skin (more complete is "usted tiene piel muy suave" = you have very soft skin). or just stroke her arm gently and murmer "suave, muy suave, ...".

ojos = eyes
labios = lips
tetas, mamas = breasts
pelo = hair
piel = skin
cola = bum
cuerpo = body
tetilla = nipple
belos = balls

bonita/bonito = pretty.
hermosa/hermoso = beautiful.

for example, cuerpo bonito. ojos hermosa. pelo hermoso.

bonita is used with feminine words (usually ending in a, as in 'chica', 'mamas'). bonito is for masculine words (usually end in o, such as ojos and cuerpo).

tus ojos me hacen loco = your eyes make me crazy. 'tus' is pronounced 'chu' and there is a soft c in hacen, like hacienda.

besos = kisses. muchos besos = many kisses.
besos en los labios? = kisses on the lips
beso con lengua? = kisses with tonque

learn to say you like/want something: me gusta tu sonrisa = i like your smile.

baile? = dance?

beber? = drink?

use her name in a few sentences:

valentina [es] muy hermosa = valentina is very beautiful.

valentina mas atractiva [aqui] = valentine is the most sexy [here]

ask about her family:

padres en columbia? = parents in columbia? more complete is "tus padres viven en columbia?" = are your parents in colombia? singular padre is father, madre is mother.

bambinos? children? more complete is "tienes hijos?" or "tienes bambinos?"

bambinos años? = how old are your children? i usually also hold out my hand to indicate the possible height of the child.

hermanas? = sisters? more complete is "tienes hermanos y hermanas?" = do you have brothers and sisters?

no es facil trabajar aqui con tus bambinos en colombia = it is not easy working here and having her children there:

she will ask if you want to go for a massage or "fucky fucky". gfe = no quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer amor. = not just a quick fuck, i want romance. corny, but cute. i have found it difficult to negotiate what is included - but if something is a deal breaker for you, be sure to ask for it. me gusta chuparme sin condom = i like sucking without a condom.

cuanto cuesta? = how much? most chicas will know the english words for fifty dollars, forty dollars, thirty dollars,... or just offer thirty dollars yourself = treinta dollares?

some useful words in the room:

fabuloso = fabulous (when she is naked!)

delicioso = delightful

caliente!! = hot!!

una hora? = one hour? the girl may sometimes try to upsell you (one hour is more money). i now say "no gracias" and find that a good daty can extend the session usually, then offer a larger tip.

ducha = shower. ducha conmigo = shower with me.

mas suave = softer

mas duro = harder

apretar = squeeze

siente bien? = feels good?

chuparme = suck. chuparme sin condom = suck without a condom.

perrito = doggy style.

terminar = come/climax.

propina = tip.

also learn a few standard phrases:

por favor = please.

muchas gracias = many thanks.

buenas tardes = good afternoon.

adios = goodbye.

quizás = perhaps. quiza - maybe. pero = but.

hasta luego (see you later) soft g

perdon = sorry.

fatigue = tired.

at the end, the best providers will offer a massage. "si". as you relax, ask for "massage de mamas", i.e., massage me with your tits. after that, "ducha" for a shower!

if you enjoyed the session (or the next session on the second day) and you have the free time, ask her if she wants to have lunch at the beach: la playa para almorzar? if you want to arrange another session, número de teléfono? = your telephone number?

final tip: if there was something you wanted to communicate, but couldn't, go to freetranslation.com and translate it from english into spanish for the next time! this web site is really good.

good luck. i wrote this after working on spanish for less than 8 weeks. i wanted to get it down while i was still a novice. no doubt i have some errors and typos and important omissions. just pm them to me and i will update the post as a reference.

- zing

[Zing23]

In St Marteen, are there any asian girls for massage sensual?

Just a couple of days ago I answered that I had never heard of any, but looking in Friday's Daily Herald newspaper classifieds, I found this ad:

"Thai Massage. Body Body, very Sensual. private or at your home open 7/7. For
more information, call 0690 887311."

Should have known - St Martin has everything. This is a cellphone number on the French side. To reach from the USA, you dial 011 590 690 88 73 11. To reach from the Dutch side St Maarten, you dial 00 590 690 88 73 11.

Hopefully Bishop will try it and report back to us.

[Tigerman]

Hi Guys!

A quick note to tell you a bit about my visit to St Maarten last week.

My buddy and me were working in St Maarten and had a few hours of free time in the afternoon. We shared a cab from town, intending to go to the Casa Blanca; we had been to the Island many times before, and because of the time (it was round about 3-30pm) we decided against the Seamens Club, because even though we have had many an enjoyable stay there, during the afternoon it almost always gets pretty well packed with; well Seamen I suppose! (There’s a clue in the name!) I find that wherever you are in the world, when there are a lot of potential clients there for the girls, they tend to be a little rushed and indifferent. Anyway, got chatting to the driver in the taxi, talking about the clubs over the years, and he mentions a place called Carolina’s. I hadn’t visited St Maarten for over a year, but I had not heard of this place before; perhaps it is reasonably new to the scene? Well I felt compelled to give it a try, if only to give all you guys the heads up!

1st of all, the locals use a Spanish sounding pronunciation of the name “Carolina’s”; it sounded a bit like “Ka-ro-leee-naz” (please excuse spelling, and no offence intended to any of you Spanish speaking guys!) The club seemed to be just around the corner, probably easy walking distance, from the Seamens club (I’m not sure if I would be too happy trying that at night on my own though). There were 2 entrances from the street. The one to the right leads into a café/restaurant type place, so it’s the dark and dingy one to the left that you’ll need.

You find yourself in a dimly lit bar, with a stage area set up with a pole. When we arrived (about 4pm-ish) we were the only 2 “punters” but there were plenty of girls; I’d take a guess at about 20. There were a couple of other guys in the bar, but they were running a few of the girls through some dance moves so I assumed that they were something to do with the management.

We had a few beers there; not too expensive: - I think 2 or 3 bucks each, and admired the view. As we were the only 2 guys there, we did have a lot of attention. Almost all of the girls there would have been on my “Do-able” list. As to be expected, they mainly seemed to come from the DR or Colombia, so if tall leggy blond hair and blue eyes is your thing you best not come here! Having said that, none of the girls were old or overweight, I would say 6 out of 10 and upwards, and a good few with a lovely sexy and flirty look about them. Had a chat with a few of the girls. But my attention had been caught by the girl that was going through the dance moves. I was told here name was Valentina, but when she came over, she introduced herself as Vicky; (again with the accent it was more like “Veee-ky!). On speaking to her, it turned out she was 23, from Cartegena, and had only been in St Maarten a few weeks. (I did take a picture on my Cell phone; will see if I can upload it when I figure out how to do it!). Chatted to her for about ½ hour or so. My Spanish is virtually non existent, and so was her English; (As an aside, would it be a good idea if we could get a page on here catering for translations for some of the more, “useful” hobbyist expressions?) Another nice thing; as we were chatting, my friend and me had another beer, and thought it polite to offer the 2 girls “a beer”; (try this line guys. If you offer them a beer/whiskey or whatever you are drinking, then it leaves you room for manoeuvre if the bar maid comes back with a $200 bottle of champagne!) However the girls asked for an Orange juice, and a Red Bull! Top marks!

Took the girls to the room. There was a $3 bar fine to take each girl out. The rooms were off down a corridor to the left of the stage area. They were typical rooms for this part of the world. A little on the grubby side, but with a shower and acceptable A/C. Vicky was a very capable and enthusiastic companion. DFK to get warmed up, then on with the rubber and into a very acceptable CBJ. Mish, cowgirl, and finished off with everyone’s favourite; Doggy. No clock watching; - in fact no mention at all of any time constraints, apart from a “from the management” style piece of card stuck on the wall. And rather surprisingly, she didn’t ask for any money upfront!? At the end, she asked for 40 bucks; was more than happy with that, so I gave her a 10 dollar tip. Once again, I’m sure the situation was helped because we were the only 2 guys in there; if we had been at the Seamen’s Club at that time of day, there would have been a never ending stream of girls with clients banging on the door wanting the room!

The girls came out to the bar with us afterwards and had another drink. Used the old trick of asking a guy outside for a cab. A “non” taxi is the cheapest way to get back from the clubs on this island. Even from the Casa Blanca, which is in the $15 region for a legitimate taxi, the locals are happy to take you back to town for 5 dollars.

Very happy with my first visit to Carolina’s. Will be back in St Maarten in a few weeks time; and will definitely be visiting there again!

Cheers Guys,

Tigerman

[Alan]

Zing,

I think you are right about Le Petit Chateau. It is my favorite place on the island for hobbying. The prices are cheaper and I think the chicas are far less aggressive and demanding than Seamans.

There is a one called Elena who is from the Dominican Republic. About 30, oversized breasts and round butt. She does anal for 40. Takes it like a true champ. No fuss and no complaints.

Quite a few younger ones as well, but they are not always receptive to anal offers.

Alan

[Zing23]

In St Marteen, are there any asian girls for massage sensual?

I have never heard of any.

Zing

[Bishop1975]

In St Marteen, are there any asian girls for massage sensual?

[Zing23]

Following up on my picture of Le Petit Chateau, here is a report of my visit.

I went in the early afternoon. As you enter there are 4 pool tables, where 2 locals were having a game. I said "good afternoon" which is the standard greeting here (Good night at night instead of good evening) and continued on into the bar. Large circular bar with about 5 or 6 guys and equivalent chicas, well lit by sunlight during the daytime. In the back is an area with benches along the walls that is darker; this is where most of the girls were sitting. I didn't get a good look at them, but they seemed to be mostly the large Dominican girls that Routard described and that many locals like.

When I went up to the bar to order my drink, one pale skinned girl with a sort of desperate look of trying to be classy greated me in very formal english - she must have memorized it from a course. I replied with "Hola" and moved off to sit and look around.

None of the girls at the bar appealed to me at first glance. I was going to move to the back of the bar and start talking to the many chicas there, when I noticed an attractive, thinner, well-endowed girl with short hair walk across to the bar and order a Vitamin Drink. I moved over and said "Hola" and "Como estas?" She was from Cali Columbia and we had a nice chat in my pitiful Spanish. She showed me pictures of her 3 children on her cellphone and of her beauty parlor in Cali - she earns money in St Maarten to pay for setting up the business. She said she was 34 years old, which must be true, given the size/age of her oldest bambino, but she looked better than many of the 25 year olds.

We agreed on $30 (treinta dollares) to go to her room. Outside the back of the bar is a large courtyard with the girl's rooms all around it. A number of girls were setting on stoops talking, a few guys also. She asked if I wanted the climatization (airco) - I said yes, and she went back with $3 for the bar to get them to turn on the airco in the room. The room was small and ordinary, like at Seamans and Defiance etc.

The sex was good - not super special. I gave her a $10 tip, bringing the cost up to her asking price. She looked just as good without her clothes!

Le Petite Chateau is big and friendly - I will go back sometime, although Caroline and Defiance are my favorites right now.