St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Lucky Strike]

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I do have two questions though: (1) are there online services that send girls out to your notes (I have not been able to locate any) or (2) are there girls working any of the other bars / hotel bars / casinos not mentioned here,

1. Not heard or seen ads for outcalls. One would think that, given the number of private yachts, such services must be available, and in large numbers. I suppose they use strippers (mostly east european) from Platinum and Red Diamond. It's a lot more expensive than going to the casas, but for the people who own / rent the private yachts this is literally nothing.

2. Strip clubs, especially Bada Bing. I've not seen girls "working" (looking for clients) in casinos or hotels. If you see one there, she's probably with a customer already.

[Scherzo46]

Primary reason is because of the safety reports around the area and that I can't walk between the clubs. Do not want to have to drive or use a taxi, basically.

Just Stick to the Casas. There is more than enough chicas there. If you fall in love with one. You can take her out for the night.

Why go to a bar and try to pick up someone? $50- at most clubs gets you laid.

[Mel365]

Just Stick to the Casas. There is more than enough chicas there. If you fall in love with one. You can take her out for the night.

Why go to a bar and try to pick up someone? $50- at most clubs gets you laid.

Hi all,

Just started reading these reports for my first trip to SXM in a few days. It's been incredibly helpful, so hats off to everyone who has put the work in to make this forum what it is.

I do have two questions though: (1) are there online services that send girls out to your notes (I have not been able to locate any) or (2) are there girls working any of the other bars / hotel bars / casinos not mentioned here, or is all of the work confined to the red light district? Not sure whether that's a requirement of the Dutch or not, which would make sense, but figured there's no better place to ask.

[Scherzo46]

Hi all,

Just started reading these reports for my first trip to SXM in a few days. It's been incredibly helpful, so hats off to everyone who has put the work in to make this forum what it is.

I do have two questions though: (1) are there online services that send girls out to your notes (I have not been able to locate any) or (2) are there girls working any of the other bars / hotel bars / casinos not mentioned here, or is all of the work confined to the red light district? Not sure whether that's a requirement of the Dutch or not, which would make sense, but figured there's no better place to ask.

[Barkey]

Just to clarify, the $400 was not a rate that I had to negotiate. It was her asking price. I'm almost certain I could have negotiated a lower price. Honestly though, I had been with her a few times before and I knew it would be worth every penny, so I didn't bother. And while she did get to relax for a bit, she was "on" for almost the entire time. Extras, like dkf, BBBJ, anal, were no problem. It was a true GFE with a little bit of pse thrown in for good measure. She even cooked, did the dishes, and made the bed. Amazing.

OK. If you have been with her before obviously the comfort level and overall chemistry was good. In that case I can see the chica offering a reduced rate up front and the performance expectations were known by both parties. No need for further negotiations. With the right girl you can have a great GFE and PSE experience. It just kind of comes naturally. Give her a break though. Let the hotel maid do the beds and dishes (LOL).

[DavisLucJr]

I guess I can see where a chica might be interested in $400 for 24 hours, plus bar fines, it would guarantee income for the day / night and most likely allow them to take it easy and have a little relaxation for a whole day. She would not have to be hustling in the bar for one day or night. With the right girl it might be interesting.

I do agree with Puntz79. I generally have not negotiated price but rather service. A couple of times I have been asked for a price way above the normal and have learned to say "no gracias". The one time I didn't was last year at Carolinas with Lorena. She asked for $100 for 30 minutes when the rate at that time was $40. She was super hot looking. Had to have her. Well we did settle on $60 with the promise of a good tip for great service. A rookie mistake then. No tip.

From that experience I've programed myself to say if the price starts out way out of line probably the service will be too.

Just to clarify, the $400 was not a rate that I had to negotiate. It was her asking price. I'm almost certain I could have negotiated a lower price. Honestly though, I had been with her a few times before and I knew it would be worth every penny, so I didn't bother. And while she did get to relax for a bit, she was "on" for almost the entire time. Extras, like dkf, BBBJ, anal, were no problem. It was a true GFE with a little bit of pse thrown in for good measure. She even cooked, did the dishes, and made the bed. Amazing.

[Party Boy]

I guess I can see where a chica might be interested in $400 for 24 hours, plus bar fines, it would guarantee income for the day / night and most likely allow them to take it easy and have a little relaxation for a whole day. She would not have to be hustling in the bar for one day or night. With the right girl it might be interesting.

I do agree with Puntz79. I generally have not negotiated price but rather service. A couple of times I have been asked for a price way above the normal and have learned to say "no gracias". The one time I didn't was last year at Carolinas with Lorena. She asked for $100 for 30 minutes when the rate at that time was $40. She was super hot looking. Had to have her. Well we did settle on $60 with the promise of a good tip for great service. A rookie mistake then. No tip.

From that experience I've programed myself to say if the price starts out way out of line probably the service will be too.

I agree with you Barkey, look at it from their point of view. Would they prefer an easy night away from the bar, the hustle and regular grind for a slightly reduced rate of what they can "potentially" make, or would they prefer to work the bar in hopes to make more money? Add to the fact that they may have good chemistry with you and may genuinely like you, the opportunity to get a reduced rate becomes more attainable. I always ask the girls how much for TLN, and they quote $300 and I simply say that is more than I am willing to pay. Then if the girl is still interested, we would discuss further a rate that would work for the both of us. Maybe I have been lucky, but in all my TLNs, I have always had great chemistry with the girl.

At Puntz, next time you are in SXM, try negotiating a reduced rate, you may be surprised at the results. The worst case scenario is they say no. Also, if you are able to negotiate services from a girl for $50/ hour (as the going rate is $50/30 mins) , then you should have no problem getting a reduced TLN rate. Happy Mongering!

[Barkey]

During my last visit a few months ago, I was asked $400 for a 11 am-11 am 24 HR date. I'm not sure if that can be considered "not paying close to $300" or not.

Of course, I also had to pay 2 x $70 in bar fines.

I guess I can see where a chica might be interested in $400 for 24 hours, plus bar fines, it would guarantee income for the day / night and most likely allow them to take it easy and have a little relaxation for a whole day. She would not have to be hustling in the bar for one day or night. With the right girl it might be interesting.

I do agree with Puntz79. I generally have not negotiated price but rather service. A couple of times I have been asked for a price way above the normal and have learned to say "no gracias". The one time I didn't was last year at Carolinas with Lorena. She asked for $100 for 30 minutes when the rate at that time was $40. She was super hot looking. Had to have her. Well we did settle on $60 with the promise of a good tip for great service. A rookie mistake then. No tip.

From that experience I've programed myself to say if the price starts out way out of line probably the service will be too.

[DavisLucJr]

Close to $300 in my books is $250 to $300. And you have never paid close to this? So you're paying less than $250 for all night? Hmmm. Ok.

I've never negotiate on cost at SXM, I'll negotiate services with the cost I'm quoted (always $50 for an hour, or $300 all night). I've had one person charge me more for half an hour, and I went with it only because it was my very first visit. ($60 vs. $50).

This might be the first time I've heard of a person never paying close to $300 for TLN.

During my last visit a few months ago, I was asked $400 for a 11 am-11 am 24 HR date. I'm not sure if that can be considered "not paying close to $300" or not.

Of course, I also had to pay 2 x $70 in bar fines.

[Puntz79]

Room Fee is $5 at both Carolina's and Hypnotic and $50 for 30 minutes.

I actually did a late TLN with Marianna. Bar fine was still $70 at Carolinas. Not sure if Hypnotic charges more. $300 is still the going rate but this can always be negotiated. I have done TLN three times now and have never paid close to $300. I still reminisce about the days where there was no bar fines and clubs used to close at 1 am. At that point the girls were free to go out and party with you.

Close to $300 in my books is $250 to $300. And you have never paid close to this? So you're paying less than $250 for all night? Hmmm. Ok.

I've never negotiate on cost at SXM, I'll negotiate services with the cost I'm quoted (always $50 for an hour, or $300 all night). I've had one person charge me more for half an hour, and I went with it only because it was my very first visit. ($60 vs. $50).

This might be the first time I've heard of a person never paying close to $300 for TLN.

[Party Boy]

Great report Party Boy. I can't wait to return in October. Is the chica rate at Carolinas or Hypnotique still at $50 for 30 minutes?

You didn't mention any TLD / TLN activities but just wondered if you checked pricing. In March the general pricing was $300 for the girl and bar fine of $100. I was just wondering if you or any one else could confirm that this is still going rate.

Barkey.

Room Fee is $5 at both Carolina's and Hypnotic and $50 for 30 minutes.

I actually did a late TLN with Marianna. Bar fine was still $70 at Carolinas. Not sure if Hypnotic charges more. $300 is still the going rate but this can always be negotiated. I have done TLN three times now and have never paid close to $300. I still reminisce about the days where there was no bar fines and clubs used to close at 1 am. At that point the girls were free to go out and party with you.

[Party Boy]

Party Boy,

Great report.

If you go to campo in high season you will find some stunners. They usually come out about 9:30 -10 at night and sleep during the day as they are having sex until the sun rises.

Pay particular attention to the red lights over the door.

If you pay attention you will find as few rooms that have the light lit almost all night. THAT is where the A Team is located.

Some of my favorite chicas came from Campo. If anyone remembers Michelle, Betty, Olga, or Sandra you can confirm their talents.

After I spent many nights with Sandra, She wrote me she was in Panama, I booked the next flight to Panama to get one of her famous BBBJ'S.

She and Michelle are still my AT'FS and we still keep in touch.

Sometimes I visit them in Colombia. Photos of a few others from campo. not only did i have sex with the two chicas , they are twin sisters-MMMM

Mel.

Hey Mel,

I was actually hoping to see some girls from my previous SXM trips in CUR. Last year I met a girl named Sofia at Carolina's and she told me how she worked at Campo and liked it better. Unfortunately, she wasn't there.

I did notice the red lights always being lit in the same room, but I didn't hang around outside their door long enough to find out who they were.

Some nice pics you have posted. Nothing beats going to Colombia and hanging out with these girls in their home country.

[Party Boy]

Nice report. Glad you had a good time.

So I guess my advice was pretty spot on, huh?

Yes, I went in with tempered expectations for both islands. All in all, still good times!

[Barkey]

I can confirm the room fee is $5.

Great report Party Boy. I can't wait to return in October. Is the chica rate at Carolinas or Hypnotique still at $50 for 30 minutes?

You didn't mention any TLD / TLN activities but just wondered if you checked pricing. In March the general pricing was $300 for the girl and bar fine of $100. I was just wondering if you or any one else could confirm that this is still going rate.

Barkey.

[Shark16]

I finally got to experience Campo, something that has been on my bucket list for years. In all honesty, I was little underwhelmed. There were no real stunners, most of the girls were 6's and 7's. There are some there that I felt were hideous and I wondered how they made any money. I could have gone back Saturday afternoon for one more encounter before my flight, but I just wasn't interested in anyone. Now this is just my opinion, but Campo to me felt similar to walking around the Red Light District in Amsterdam where you are on the prowl till you find one you like. When you do, the sex just lacks passion and most of it was mechanical, however, YMMV. I really hope this was a one off. I really wish I could have seen Campo in it's hey day with 150 girls. I am sure it was absolute paradise. On a positive note, you cannot beat the price of around $30 USD / pop. If you can find a girl who will go the extra mile and provide you a with a passionate GFE experience, then you can't beat it. So the question is, would I go back? I would definitely like give it another shot, maybe during high season, but I don't think I would go out of my way to make it the prime objective of my trip. CUR was a nice diversion, and even though SXM is almost double for the price of pussy, SXM will always be my go to spot!

Thanks for the report. Nice summary. This concurs very well with my own experience. Even though it is supposed to be the same girls frequenting these islands, SXM seemed to have the upper edge regarding talent. Also, the electric intimate atmosphere at the small SXM clubs I never found at Campo (too big, desolated and boring).

But you did the right thing to explore Curacao for yourself. At 30 dollars / pop it is a bargain, the scene may change, people are different. Even though not up to SXM standards on my trip, I look back at my Curacao visit with great pleasure, and I encourage everyone to explore both islands at least once.