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  1. #7730
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    Just a small additional remark to the (black) people hanging out in the front of Carolina's. They are always there, are friendly, and have never bothered me. It's mostly a mix of security and taxi drivers. Sometimes you can even see the boss lady joining them. Just relax, smile and say "good evening".
    It might be mostly taxi / secrurity but there are absolutely drug dealers too. They were actually nice tho I ate dinner at the bar at Yudi's with them not knowing they were dealers but then the next day I saw them hanging out in front and they asked if I wanted weed or boner pills. To clarify the specific dealers themselves weren't aggressive, but the neighborhood allowing dealers suggests the likelihood of violent crime is probably increased.

    Yeah, things have changed post corona. Tip. Bring towel and shampo with you from the hotel.
    The prospect of multisessions isn't icky in most places but in SXM the shower facilities are not up to par and I do not trust the hygeine of later second or third sessions. Probably only a tiny fraction of men are bringing their own hygeine supplies and I've seen that the women barely clean themselves either, even after doing filthy things to them. I just arrive early, do a girl's first session then go home to wash off in a nicer shower.

    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimeSxm  [View Original Post]
    So apparently Caro has 48 girls working there, I find that hard to believe as I trying to think where they would all sleep, though I do know girls share rooms. I think the most girls I have ever seen on the floor is about 30 at any one time.

    Any of you guys ever seen more than 30 on the floor, thinking may have to do a Spring trip.
    I have been to Caros every day and night this week and there have never been more than 15 chicas on the floor at any time. Honestly the bar isn't big enough to support 50 women anyway, yesterday there were 6 cruise ships docked and maybe 50 men but only like 15 women and it was still uncomfortably crowded and smoky.

  2. #7729
    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimeSxm  [View Original Post]
    So apparently Caro has 48 girls working there, I find that hard to believe as I trying to think where they would all sleep, though I do know girls share rooms. I think the most girls I have ever seen on the floor is about 30 at any one time.
    48 chicas? Wow!

    Who is the source? The bartender said 20- 25 in December. That was hard to believe as I never counted more than 10 in the bar. But after making several visits day and night I must admit the bartender was right. They are there, but just not in the bar.

    Pre corona there were reports (not personal experience) about 60 chicas in Carolina's at one time. That's during high season in St. Martin (from January to March / April). So 48 girls may be true.

    There are also rooms upstairs in the Carolina building. I do not know how many. They are rarely used for guests. I have only been there once. They looked better than the rooms downstairs. A chica showed me a VIP area with jacuzzi. That was a long time ago.

    Before the time of smartphone (yeah, I am getting old but vaguely remember) Carolina's had a lot of stricter rules. The chicas had to be in the bar and sign in at 11 am and 8 pm every day. What a perfect time to be there and assess the lineup! There were also rules that they had to be available in the bar all the time (except for when with a guest, siesta and after the bar closed), so there were always plenty of chicas in the bar at any time.

    Not anymore. I have tried to think about reasons why (pure speculation on my part of course):

    - Some chicas are simply busy in the rooms.

    - Some chicas are on TLNs or takeouts during day.

    - Smartphones have made it easier to sign in electronically. They show up in the bar when they feel like/are ready.

    - Some chicas focus mostly on cruise tourists during the day, while others have their focus on the night. I noticed a couple of chicas showing up in the bar just before midnight who I had never seen during my visits during daytime or early evening visits.

    - The chicas are allowed to rest and take a few hours or a day off whenever they feel like as long as they have paid rent to the bar (pure speculation of course, but I imagine that the chicas of today are not as tired as they used to be way back, typically being able to sleep during day after a stressful TLN).

    - The chicas order food and have their lunch / dinner break in the back (you can observe this all the time).

    - They shower and spend time brushing up (hey, these are females. It takes time to look that good!)

    The important thing these days is to remember to have a little patience. If you do not see who you want when entering the bar, sometimes it pays to sit back and relax to see what's happening the next couple of hours. But not always. I still got things to learn about the dynamics of a chica bar.

  3. #7728

    Carolina's number of girls

    So apparently Caro has 48 girls working there, I find that hard to believe as I trying to think where they would all sleep, though I do know girls share rooms. I think the most girls I have ever seen on the floor is about 30 at any one time.

    Any of you guys ever seen more than 30 on the floor, thinking may have to do a Spring trip.

    Regarding rooms at Caro, yeah sometimes you get taken to a barebones room. Other times the chica will invite you to her personal room where it's a lot more cosy. If they invite you to their room, they are usually happy to lend you a towel etc if you want to shower and clean up properly.

  4. #7727
    Quote Originally Posted by SmallWeinerGuy  [View Original Post]
    Location is a little sketch, lots of stray dogs and drug dealers hanging out in front.
    Just a small additional remark to the (black) people hanging out in the front of Carolina's. They are always there, are friendly, and have never bothered me. It's mostly a mix of security and taxi drivers. Sometimes you can even see the boss lady joining them. Just relax, smile and say "good evening".

    Back in the day there was this latino taxi driver always with a huge smile and a lot of insights about the chicas. I truly miss him.

    Even the dogs are friendly. Beware of the cat!

    Last month there was a drug addict in the side street at night asking for "dollar, dollar". He is friendly too. But there may be others. Just be vigilant and take normal precautions. Avoid being pissed drunk and alone in that side street at night.

  5. #7726
    Quote Originally Posted by SmallWeinerGuy  [View Original Post]
    I rented a car but I hate hate hate driving on these roads. There's no sidewalk and every road is one lane each way so if anyone parks weird or makes a left turn then traffic gets backed up. Also the speed bumps aren't painted and are impossible to see at night.
    Welcome to St. Martin. I bet you are glad you have a car and are not walking. Souliga Road has 6 speed bumps. At the second from the Salt Pickers you have El General on your left. The third is around the bend. The last three just 10 yards from Caronlina's / Crystals. Take Suckergarden Road/ Arch Road if you want to avoid the speed bumps.

    Carolinas:

    Largest selection and highest quality of women.

    Men don't get towels here, girls give you paper towels to clean individual bits and you're better off showering at your hotel after.
    Yeah, things have changed post corona. Tip. Bring towel and shampo with you from the hotel.

    Location is a little sketch, lots of stray dogs and drug dealers hanging out in front. I haven't run into any issues personally but I parked on the side of the building and the bartender insisted I move my car to the front of the building so I don't get stabbed.
    Good advice. Also, if looking sketchy when leaving at night, ask the security guy to follow you to your car (for a tip). Visiting in daytime eleminates the risks.

    Maybe Crystal / Empire are actually competitive and I just caught them on off days,
    Usually not. Those clubs both fall behind Carolina's. They are good for relaxing sipping to a beer and wait patiently for that ONE chica to turn up (Luisa and Lia or perhaps someone new). Ask the bartender for advice. If they are not around, then leave.

    Thanks for the report.

  6. #7725

    SXM Island Jan 2024

    I've been in SXM for 2 days, initial thoughts.

    General:

    I rented a car but I hate hate hate driving on these roads. There's no sidewalk and every road is one lane each way so if anyone parks weird or makes a left turn then traffic gets backed up. Also the speed bumps aren't painted and are impossible to see at night.

    The demand side of sexwork skews much younger here. I've traveled a lot and most of the time its 50-60+ year old white guys but here the crowd is mostly 20-40 year old dark skinned folk with a few old white guys sprinkled in.

    Carolinas:

    Largest selection and highest quality of women. Main bar area is small and dark, music is loud. Arriba rooms are bare bones, just a bed and a sad bathroom. Men don't get towels here, girls give you paper towels to clean individual bits and you're better off showering at your hotel after. The showers don't even have showerheads, its practically a hose. Location is a little sketch, lots of stray dogs and drug dealers hanging out in front. I haven't run into any issues personally but I parked on the side of the building and the bartender insisted I move my car to the front of the building so I don't get stabbed. Kissing and BBBJ are common but you must negotiate beforehand, otherwise you'll get upcharged in the room.

    Crystal:

    Across the street from Carolinas. Similarly sized bar area to Carolinas but haven't seen any quality women. I've been in several times hoping for Luisa but I'm peaking my head in, scanning the room while getting accosted by older larger chicas, and leaving immediately. Haven't seen the arriba rooms yet.

    Empire:

    I quite like the location. Just up the hill from Carolinas / Crystal and has a big spacious bar area and its own parking lot which is nice. Unfortunately I've visited at different points in the morning and evening and found zero interesting women.

    Maybe Crystal / Empire are actually competitive and I just caught them on off days, I will try to make an effort to find someone at either Crystal or Empire or somewhere that isn't Carolinas before I leave on Friday. I would have been interested to check out Red Diamond or Platinum but they open at 10 p and I want to minimize my night driving here as much as possible and they're a bit of a trek to get to. I'll report on individual chicas later.

  7. #7724
    Quote Originally Posted by Knoteebuoy  [View Original Post]
    Has any one been to Casa Blanca recently. Wondering if it's worth a visit or not. Also wondering how safe it is these days. Haven't been there in several years.
    Went there about 2 years ago, had a grand total of 4 girls, 2 of which moved to Crystal club a month later. Was a nice huge bar area but totally dead in terms of girls and clients, the girls were attractive though.

    Also I hear rumours that a new brothel maybe opening off the L be Scott road. If it turns out to be true I will confirm on here.

  8. #7723

    Casa Blanca

    Has any one been to Casa Blanca recently. Wondering if it's worth a visit or not. Also wondering how safe it is these days. Haven't been there in several years.

  9. #7722
    Quote Originally Posted by TigerMuskie  [View Original Post]
    SXMFunTime thanks for the heads up on the chica network. I thought it was part of the purpose of this site to help out others with info. No shaming was meant but just my opinion of services rendered. I am not a regular so I am not too afraid. If they don't like this kind of feedback it's a good thing they aren't associated with pics or on the Internet as that is the main purpose of review sites that actually rate girls, which I can't name here. I guess it goes with the chica club scene. At the end of the day not too big of deal as you are only out $80 or $140, if it's bad, not $280-$500+ like in North America.
    Was not my intent to come across having a go, I just wanted to give you guys the heads up. Main reason for posting this is if you really like one girl and trying build that trust for some extra GFE and you decide to have some fun with another chica for one night, don't be surprised if she finds out about it.

    Me and especially my friends are quite well known in the clubs and have reputations, especially as 50% of the girls have been regularly working in Sxm for several years. Word gets around. It's caused me some headaches in the past.

    Yeah the standard of girls you get for the money you pay is a bargain, can only imagine what it's like at the source.

  10. #7721
    Quote Originally Posted by BobVis13  [View Original Post]
    First time poster. I'm curious about on-line escort services such as Atlas or Secrethostest. Are they and the posters legit or would you avoid like the plague? Don't know much about the lay of the land, and would appreciate some advise. Thanks.
    Hmm, atlas escorts has quite few familiar faces on there from the freelance girls I see around Simpson Bay and Maho.

    Secret hostess I only recognise 1, who is now working in Carolinas.

    You don't really need to use those sites, better off going to the sucker garden clubs or meeting the girls out in the popular bars on certain nights.

    Also if you go on Tinder, quite a few girls use that to gives likes.

    Pelican Piano bar Monday night there will be anywhere between 6-12 freelancers between 10 pm and 1 am.

    Soggy Dollar Tuesday night as it's Latin night. Loads of them are in there plus you will prob see some club girls on take out.

    Wednesday I would say Lotus nightclub is good bet as its ladies night, you will prob see a lot of Caro girls there after midnight as certain punters like taking out 4 or more girls there at any one time.

    Friday, bars in Maho are a good bet, you see the freelancers patrol looking and going into most bars trying to sell their services.

  11. #7720

    No shaming just my opinion

    SXMFunTime thanks for the heads up on the chica network. I thought it was part of the purpose of this site to help out others with info. No shaming was meant but just my opinion of services rendered. I am not a regular so I am not too afraid. If they don't like this kind of feedback it's a good thing they aren't associated with pics or on the Internet as that is the main purpose of review sites that actually rate girls, which I can't name here. I guess it goes with the chica club scene. At the end of the day not too big of deal as you are only out $80 or $140, if it's bad, not $280-$500+ like in North America.

    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimeSxm  [View Original Post]
    Indeed there is a lot better value for money in Sucker garden but dabbling in Platinum or Rd is fun every now and then.

    I found a video of the girl I had, many years ago now.

    https://www.xvideos.com/video1972066...lean_your_cock

    Most of the platinum girls to go the gym at Port de Plaisance, Red Diamond girls can be found freelancing in piano bar in Pelican on Monday and Soggy dollar Tuesday night.

    They stand out so you can make your own much better price deals there, than in the club.

    Yeah the tipping culture is obscene on the island, service charge on food is also ridiculous high but that is another story.

    Just so you guys are aware as well, I know some Carolina girls know about this forum and they read it regularly, they also have WhatApp group where they all talk to each other as well as girls from other clubs and some free lancers. Hence I very rarely name or shame and write bad reports up about a chica, I just mention and describe the girls I know who are good via my own experience or trusted sources.

  12. #7719

    Escort Services

    First time poster. I'm curious about on-line escort services such as Atlas or Secrethostest. Are they and the posters legit or would you avoid like the plague? Don't know much about the lay of the land, and would appreciate some advise. Thanks.

  13. #7718
    Indeed there is a lot better value for money in Sucker garden but dabbling in Platinum or Rd is fun every now and then.

    I found a video of the girl I had, many years ago now.

    https://www.xvideos.com/video1972066...lean_your_cock

    Most of the platinum girls to go the gym at Port de Plaisance, Red Diamond girls can be found freelancing in piano bar in Pelican on Monday and Soggy dollar Tuesday night.

    They stand out so you can make your own much better price deals there, than in the club.

    Yeah the tipping culture is obscene on the island, service charge on food is also ridiculous high but that is another story.

    Just so you guys are aware as well, I know some Carolina girls know about this forum and they read it regularly, they also have WhatApp group where they all talk to each other as well as girls from other clubs and some free lancers. Hence I very rarely name or shame and write bad reports up about a chica, I just mention and describe the girls I know who are good via my own experience or trusted sources.

  14. #7717
    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimeSxm  [View Original Post]
    So, even though I did not visit Platinum on my last trip I have a few stories on what can happen
    FunTime,
    Nice stories! And good work getting that.

    I lack experience with American strip clubs (only two visits outside Miami back in the day), but I have heard from others that the girls from Platinum have a reputation for providing good "mileage". From personal experience with the Platinum girls I'd say that YMMV. You need a bit of luck.

    I have spoken to friends who live on island. They tell me that if you get friendly with a girl from there you can get her a lot cheaper on day off, plus don't pay the cub aswell.
    Hehe. Hey, I wonder how much money it takes to get "friendly" with a Platinum girl. Luck and charm is again part of the game. But as they say: In St. Martin nothing is guaranteed. Anything is possible.

    I have a different pre corona story from Red Diamond. I agreed with a girl for a lap dance. But the DJ could not find the music the girl wanted. It took several minutes and nothing happened. Just awkward. Then the girl suggested to give him a 10 dollar tip. And miraculously he instantly found the music. LOL!! That was just so lame. There is a tipping culture inside a strip club like no other place.

    Just like you I do not spend my time and money on the strip clubs. I just feel so robbed! My visit to Platinum last month was a one off and strictly budgeted. There is so much more fun at the Suckergarden bars.

  15. #7716

    Historic platinum story

    So, even though I did not visit Platinum on my last trip I have a few stories on what can happen:

    1 girl I had private dance with made me lie down and rode me so hard through my trousers my cock popped out, she then carried on grinding her pussy lips touchin against my Bellend which she then started to squeeze and twist with her hand, that dance went on for 6 song.

    A Ukrainian girl that gave DFK in private dance. Let me suck on her titties and finger her pussy.

    Quite a few will give you DFK in the back and let you suck titties in my experience as part of the dance cost.

    I did one take out from there, cost me 500 for girl and 250 for club Was this really hot Argentina girl who was a cyber Playboy bunny. The sex was some of the best in my life, bare back of course with cum in pussy.

    I have spoken to friends who live on island. They tell me that if you get friendly with a girl from there you can get her a lot cheaper on day off, plus don't pay the cub aswell.

    The girls all speak fluent English as well, so plenty of conversation to be had.

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