St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Mel365]

I will be in sxm for a few days starting April 4 . anyone around then?
mel

[Mel365]

Jimbo,

I believe a few chicas at Defiance go both ways.

Check it out.

Mel

[Routard]

Orient Bay has just a nudist resort but don't expect more. If you are into swinging, book instead here: www.club241.net. It's a swing club resort on the French side. Regarding the brothels, the most convenient to go with your wife are Seamens and Carolina. I have seen couples entering the bar, have a drink and socialize. Most difficult is probably to find girls that provide lesbian service. Having a trio should be no problem however.

[Jimbo56]

Are any of the brothels couples friendly? My wife likes to play with women every now and then, is that something that is allowed in the brothels or are they strictly for single men ? Also, we will be staying on Orient Beach, are there any hot spots where the swinging crowd hangs out?

[Ricker]

Ever since I started this hobby I have been trying different ways of dealing with the girls. Big tips, no tips, big gifts, small gifts, no gifts, etc. Recently I have realized that what I am doing is learning to control my innate urge to be over-nice to the girls that sleep with me. I married the first one! Now I have an endless supply of nice looking girls that will sleep with me, albeit for a small price. With them I can learn to control my over-generous urges and find a balance where I am nice but not overwhelming ...

I've learned the same thing over the years and spending lots of time in Colombia and Venezuela.

Lots of guys try to buy a girls affection with expensive gifts, big tips, etc.
This generally doesn't work and seems to have the opposite effect, the girl will basically see you only as "Senor money bags".

It's very simple really, the GFE experience, I've found, comes from being able to communicate, learning spanish is one of the greatest things I've ever done, and showing compassion to the girl.

Suerte amigos

[Zing23]

Zing,
i know when coming from seamans i turn right off the main road and then
the first left to go to the nudist resort at the end of the road where there is a entrance fee. how do i get to the beach you went to?
i didn't understand your directions .
thanks
mel

the road to gallion bay is off the main road, it also goes to the butterfly farm. the road is paved, but not in good condition.

before the butterfly farm you turn left. i think this is the first left on this road.
you drive along a wall, which must be the boundary of the naturist resort. keep to the left and you end up at the beach bars, just to the left of the resort. you don't need to go thru any gates. give it another try....

-zing

p.s. you can also get there the way i did the first 2 times. take the next right turn into orient bay (or the main one, the third) and go down to the beach. turn right, avoid the entry gate into kon tiki (keep right), after kon tiki you will dead end at the final beach bars and the right turn back out again on the road mentioned above.

[Mel365]

Zing,
i know when coming from seamans i turn right off the main road and then
the first left to go to the nudist resort at the end of the road where there is a entrance fee. how do i get to the beach you went to?
i didn't understand your directions .
thanks
mel

[Zing23]

You seem like a nice dude Zing ... no wonder these Colombianitas fall in love with you

Ever since I started this hobby I have been trying different ways of dealing with the girls. Big tips, no tips, big gifts, small gifts, no gifts, etc. Recently I have realized that what I am doing is learning to control my innate urge to be over-nice to the girls that sleep with me. I married the first one! Now I have an endless supply of nice looking girls that will sleep with me, albeit for a small price. With them I can learn to control my over-generous urges and find a balance where I am nice but not overwhelming. What I am doing is experimenting.

Here is what I wrote recently in a PM when a guy asked me about his reactions and treatment of the girls in st maarten:

i came up with this explanation:

when you are learning to fly a jumbo jet, you use a simulator. when you are learning to cut into the human body, you use a cadaver. as a student, when you learn things, you need a safe learning environment where you can make mistakes without dire consequences.

when guys are growing up, there is no safe environment for learning about girls. everything is a potential explosive mine! st maarten chicas are that safe environment for learning about girls (and yourself). they are going home within 3 months. you are not going to throw away your life to follow one of them. they cannot follow you. ergo, safe.

once you have established a relationship, even though it is with a puta (prostitute), and there are limits to it, she is a real woman, with real reactions and feelings. you can try things with her that might turn out to be very useful with non-putas later. of course this is true in bed, but it is also true in other emotional relationship issues. how to deal with jealousy (your new girl friend in usa gets appointed to neurosurgery at johns hopkins while you are a perpetual resident at an elderly care facility, grrrrr!!, etc.)

one thing I have learned in my experiments in st maarten is that if you are over-generous (much nicer than is appropriate to the extent of your relationship and knowledge of a particular working girl), the level of service declines. if you are nice (in small ways that don't cost you much), but don't pay more than is normal and don't buy her expensive gifts, she respects you more and the sex improves. another thing that I have learned is that you can use the same techniques on non-pros, even on your wife. an unexpected massage, a small gift, then boom, next morning she is in the mood.

-zing

[Ricker]

... Eva did not ask for any money for the afternoon at the beach, but I leave her $140 ($40 for the second sex, and $100 for her computer fund).

-zing

You seem like a nice dude Zing ... no wonder these Colombianitas fall in love with you

[Zing23]

as you know from previous reports, i usually visit with 3 or 4 girls each time i go to the clubs in st maarten. this time i spent the entire afternoon with eva from rm 3, petit chateau.

in an attempt to do better than my over-elaborate tln experience, i decided to attempt a less elaborate tld (all day) experience. i wanted to visit eva at petit chateau, but it was raining like crazy in st maarten and i thought that the road and parking there might be pure mud. in that case i would just go to carolina and pick another girl - no elaborate plans in advance, just a goal and a strategy of keeping it feeling right the whole time. it was very muddy at petit chateau, but because of the rain there were very few customers and i was able to park on concrete right in front of the building - no mud.

i entered the building, went to the bar, said hello to a couple of chicas and started to order a coke, when eva spots me and gives me a big open-mouthed kiss. very nice for me. but she is sad - her older brother is going in for a biopsy on a lump on his neck, which could turn out to be cancer, or to be nothing. we moved up to the bar at an empty spot and ordered 2 red bulls ($6). i heard all about the brother, about problems, about how glad she was to see me, how surprised she was, ... - a fast, enthusiastic stream of consciousness flow of spanish, of which i understood about 60%.

i pulled out a viagra pill, she looked at it, then figured out what is was, and said - you are crazy. recently an old guy took viagra here with red bull, and he died! the red bull speeds up your heart, and the viagra does the same thing. she forced me to give the red bull away to her roommate and order a water. it has only been 3 times and she is already getting protective of me. i found out that the bar fine at petit chateau is $50 for the afternoon and $150 for the evening. the girls are supposed to be in the bar from noon to 430pm, then they have a break for a nap, dinner, whatever they can do without leaving the property, then are back on duty from 8pm to 4am.

we moved to her room, took a very nice shower together, soaped each other up, slippery hugs, dried off with a towel that i brought for this purpose and because i thought i might take a girl to the beach this afternoon (she only had paper towels for drying before, said her towels were not clean enough). jumped to the bed, good kissing, bbbj, daty, missionary, climax, cuddling while she skipped through the songs on my ipod (i have been on a bachata kick recently and this frustrated her - too much bachata!). $40.

i asked eva if she would like to go to the beach - she said, the multa is expensive. i said, you are special, this one time i will pay the $50. i did not offer anything for her time because she had been complaining about the customers and acting as if she only went with one or two guys a day in order to pay her daily $35 room and board. gave her $50 for the bar and went to the car, waiting for her to change clothes (although in st maarten you could go to the beach with a black, transparent body sock with black thong.

in the car, she asks if we are going to philippsburg beach - i say let's go to orient bay first, then we can go to philippsburg later. as get close to orient beach she notices that we are on the french side and warns me that she is illegal there. she pulls out her visa, shows me it is only valid on the dutch side. i tell her not to worry about it. we go to la salsa beach bar, where kenney took me on our tln (take the turnoff for galion beach and orient nudist resort, then turn left to orient bay. when you hit the beach, the bar is right in front of you, just to the left of the jet ski booth.

we get a couple of drinks, watch the people on the beach, act like tourists, talk, relax. asked for a menu, the girl explained their range of foods in english and spanish. eva's eyes lit up at the mention of shrimp (camaronnes). at petit chateau she has eaten so much chicken that she thinks she is growing feathers. we order two shrimp plates (with fries and salad) - eva takes her time eating, leaving one shrimp for the very end, but cleans her plate.

when we walk on the beach, a not-so-attractive woman walks past us topless. eva does a double take. then there is another, then a group of 5 middle aged american ladies having their first topless experience. she says i can look all i want - she isn't jealous of these ladies! the beach is beautiful, loaded with people and activity; walking the beach makes her feel like a normal girl instead of a prostituta. during all this time, she is opening up to me. i hear about what the girls think about the girl that was murdered by a client last year at petit chateau - yes, they have their own building to live in now where men are not allowed, and they have new security cameras throughout the compound. but the stories have multiplied since the event. they believe that the girl was not really dead when found, but no one ordered an ambulance because the putas are just garbage.

her goal of making $4000 to buy her own place in colombia is a forgotten dream. she has lowered her ambitions to $700 for a computer for her child's education (i had promised to bring the rosetta stone language software, but i forgot). i was too nice to her the first 2 times, so she thinks maybe i am a walking atm - perhaps i could buy her a computer? or give her half the money? i say no, and laugh lightly.

we move on to front street in philippsburg - stroll the boardwalk, take free samples of rum and bailays at the duty free, watch the tourists, window shop, look at cameras (she wants a camera to take pictures of us - i say she should keep focused on her computer and forget about the camera). eventually we head back to the club. but the corner where the traffic light was located, to turn into the pond fill and petit chateau, is closed - they are building a roundabout to replace the light. i turn around and go the other way up toward seamans and past carolina on edge road.

at the club, i ask if we can go to her room, but it is occupied by her roommate and the red light is on. we sit on a stoop and talk and kiss some more. finally the light is off and a young man comes out. as we enter, eva quietly asks her roommate, "was it good, or bad?". she answers "bad" (all in spanish). the other girls are envious of eva, having a nice client like me, but they are still nice to her. at this club i get the sense that they stick together out of shared misery.

in the room, i shower off the beach sand and come back in the room to find eva sprawled naked on the bed. we have some nice casual, relaxed sex and then it is time for me to leave. she has to get out into the courtyard and clean it up (a different girl cleans the courtyard each day and today is her day). by the way, i notice that the courtyard has been redone with new paving stones, but all the physical upgrades don't seem to matter to the girls. eva did not ask for any money for the afternoon at the beach, but i leave her $140 ($40 for the second sex, and $100 for her computer fund).

-zing

note: i asked her about the strike of the "crossed legs" by the women of pereira and she laughed - yes it is true, she said, but the reason everyone repeats the story is because they think all women in pereira are putas. isg wisdom, confirmed at the source.

[Zing23]

I believe the chica in seamans Rm #11 was named Marta (zing please correct me if I am wrong) on the way in I ran into Zing and he showed me a most humorous chica interview sheet. Zing you must share this, it was great.

Yes, the chica with the great massage was Marta, but I think that she is gone about now.

Below is my "questionnaire" which I created to interview girls at Carolina to replace my amiga Shakira/Kenney. I only used the questionnaire on one girl, Marcela, who Kenney had suggested should be the replacement. Marcela had a good sense of humor and laughing at the questions led to a very enjoyable session later:

El Formulario de solicitud para Reemplazar
Shakira (Kenney)

¿Su nombre? (name)

¿Su edad? (age)

¿Su altura? (height)

¿Su color del pelo? (hair color)

¿Su color del ojos? (eye color)

¿Su sonrisa? (smile?)

¿Son los tetas naturales? (natural breasts?)

¿Es el culo natural? (natural buns?)

¿Qué es su música favorita? (favorite music)

¿Es usted una virgen? (are you a virgin?)

¿Es usted honesto? (are you honest?)

¿Chupa sin condon? (bbbj?)

Su calificación general de Zing es ____ (0 - 9) [your final rating]

I used a magazine as a clipboard and actually filled out the answers to the questions, just like a job interview. As you can see, I like to play with the girls. The questions were just intended to create a connection, they were not serious.

-zing

[Mel365]

addl info from the first day. i believe the chica in seamans rm #11 was named marta (zing please correct me if i am wrong) on the way in i ran into zing and he showed me a most humorous chica interview sheet. zing you must share this, it was great.

anyway, after routard left my friend came in from new york, smart, single, handsome, and very muscular. he came down for [CodeWord118], the beach, and whatever came his way.
i had been eating in a local restaurant in simpson bay for some time and there was this really extremely well built , very sexy waitress , from spain working there. being with mi amor she was off limits. however, we were chatting one night over dinner with the waitress and she said she would love to make an ocean passage with us. i said that would be a problem for someone with no ocean experience but we were sailing out for the day tomorrow if she would like to accompany my friend. she said sure. being that there is a bridge opening, she had to be on board at 8am. she was there on the dot. she arrived with another local couple who i invited for the sail. we had a great day as short as it was. oddly enough, my other guest had dated her 3 days prior, talk about an embarrassing coincidence. my new york friend was in lust for her and they continued for a week in one of the cabins.
i barely saw my new york friend and he extended his ticket to be with her.

meanwhile in the master cabin thing got hotter and hotter. we went to the toy store one night and she picked out a rotating bead dilddo with a clit vibrator. we tried it and it sent her through the roof. i also noticed that, like the girl in room 15 at carolinas, . i initiated sideways daty this seems to be much more accurate than the normal daty position. you are perpendicular to her with her legs closed slightly and you work your tong up and down the crack, in this way, it is impossible to miss the target. worked every time with much leche.

we spent many hours in bed one night starting about 12:30 and ending at sunrise.
of course there was always a fantastic wake up call , or for that matter a great lunch too.
she was killing me.

we talked about many things and the fact that she has an incredible body. her waist was so small in comparison to her boobs that i wondered what she measured. she had a tape in her purse and we measured 38 (d) 24 36 with fantastic abs.
i asked her how she was so muscular with that body. firm abs and arms, world class long legs to die for, strong hands, arms and pelvic muscles. she said she works out whenever she can and usually starts with 1,000 crunches. i asked her again i could not believe her but she did it for me in bed one night.

i asked how old her children were she said 18,18,18,18,18,12,8. i said what!!
she had quintuplets. she was in the hospital one day and went to work the next night. what an amazing woman. she showed me the family photos as validation.

she also told me that she was the most popular dominatrix in curacao campo allegra.
not my thing but very interesting to know of her talents. i am a straight sex guy but we had a fascinating talk about what goes on and her clients. mostly professionals and especially lawyers and doctors—i would like to whip a few lawyers myself.

there was once a question about girls never seeming to have their periods. she as other women take a birth control pill to stop the period and use a childs tampon jammed up in a corner so they can have sex even if there is a little blood before the pills kick in.

i dropped a note to zing about spanish lessons and he was kind enough to drop off a disk as well as some music for her. i bought a battery operated mp3 player for $79- and copied down the lessons, she was very thankful for the gift. thanks again zing.

she reads the bible every night and is very religious which seems to be an oxymoron but she is truly devoted and wants for nothing personally. when i asked her what she read she said she usually reads some of the bible and 30 psalms a night. i thought that reading psalms along with her could not hurt. no, i am not born again or religious but her devotion was truly impressive. reading psalms to myself was a form of meditation that i enjoyed. it was a special bond between us. she sat in the corner of the bed with her legs folded under her wearing only a t-shirt reading in deep meditation. what a lovely special sight as i sat on the sofa reading the psalms from my computer. (sorry off the isg subject)

i wired money home to her family a few times . she says she needs nothing just money for her family. she says she neither wants or needs anything for herself i believe her as her room and belongings lack all the toys, cd , players etc that the other chicas have.
when i left, i put $1000- in her hand and said that that was for her to buy herself something. she handed it back to me with a big kiss.

we went back to her habitation and we spent some time together on my last day.
on the way to the airport i called the airline to find out what my flight status was. the plane was delayed 3 hours. what is a monger to do???
off to seamans for leisa rm #11. i wrote her up before . a tiny spinner about 22-23
4’11” very tiny with great boobs. had a fantastic daty which she thoroughly enjoyed. waited for her to cool off and then wonderful bbbj, rcg is world class, cg, mish, and due to low leche a great hj for a finish.
then off to the airport smelling and tasting like pussy. much better than the airplane food. so ends 14 wonderful days and nights.
mel

[Mel365]

Pereira,
I had some interesting conversations about chicas from Pereira.
One of my employees from Argentina said that they say that the girls from Pereira learn how to fuck before they learn how to walk, another employee from Ecuador said chicas from Pereira when they learn how to crawl are in the right position.
A Colombian bus driver at JFK said to me that the girls from Pereira are deaf because when you tell them to sit down they lay down. My imported amor is from guess where? Pereira.
Mel

[Chris H]

I think it's safe to assume that all these girls are playing everyone. Unless you are getting completely free sex with absolutetly no mention of money, you are being played.

I gotta agree with SXM, it just seems very hard to believe that these girls would be faithful to you and we as mongers can not expect that. And vice versa, we are mongers, and we have the right to bone as many girls that we want to. I know you guys have GFE with a few girls, but these girls are not in a position to try to catch an attitude because you boned another female in SXM.


Chris H

[Sxmperson101]

Zing, something Wikipedia doesn't tell you, Pereira is famous in Colombia for the quantity of brothels and putas. Another phrase in the lexic of Colombians roughly translated is that a girl from Pereira is already laying in your bed before you have the time to ask her to sit down.

Vacation time!!!