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  1. #681
    Quote Originally Posted by Zing23
    I made it a perfect tranquil evening for her, instead of an exciting night of sex for me!

    -zing
    I've come to the same conclusion with every TLN that I've done. It's nice on the one hand because I'm sure the girl appreciates being able to relax, being treated like a woman, and being away from work. But, it's quite expensive! I always found myself wondering "why am I paying her to give her a good time?"

    With Natalia, I did one TLN with her (granted, it was at a huge discount of only $100) I didn't even have sex with her! We came home, watched some TV, we made out for a while and both passed out watching a movie. I made her breakfast in the morning and brought her back. I felt weird paying, but she was more than happy to take the money (obviously.)

    I think it's our nature, just that we (most of us?) seem to want to treat the girls well and enhance the GFE that it's hard to just bring them home, throw them on the bed, and fuck them until your penis falls off.

  2. #680

    Fake orgasms

    Man, I got a good laugh out of Zings story! I too, have faked one with a chica. I did it for a different reason...a few years ago in Aruba I was on my 4th chica in as many hours and just didn't have it in me to cum again but it was obvious that this girl was not going to stop until I was satisfied. So I did the fake groan and grunt so as not to hurt her feelings (or myself!)

    We indeed are an unusual group here....mongers that fake Os for the chicas in a brothel!

    By the way, there is a book on Extended Sexual Orgasm (ESO) that goes into techniques to not only prolong the expereince, but to also have multiple orgasms in men without leche. I was into it for a while with an ex-girlfriend. It was amazing....spectacular orgasms without releasing, but still staying hard. When I finally did release the leche, it was mindblowing. I could orgasm up to 4-5 times in just a few minutes...cascading waves of pleasure increasing in intensity with each wave.

    Now that I am much older and heavier, don't quite have the stamina to go on like that.

    pogo

  3. #679
    Quote Originally Posted by Mel365
    Tonight my heart hurts,
    I spoke to mi amor in SXM this evening. She does not know how to use the voicemail so even though I connected to her phone many times I was only able to speak to her once today.
    After 8 days with me, I know it was hard for her to go back to the bullshit of her work.
    It really breaks my heart that she has to work, but that is life and unfortunately, I can do nothing about it. She was literally crying into the phone as to how much she misses me and I feel her pain as I too wish I were with her and not just for sex. I know she was sincere and I feel like a heel leaving her to her shit.

    Then the monger in me pops up. My other problem is in 12 days I am having my other amor flown in from Bogotá.
    This will require much engineering to keep them apart.
    I have trouble keeping the E-mails and names separate. This is why all working girls call their dates honey, or mi amor etc and never use a first name.

    Tonight I feel like a slob taking these girls away from their routine which puts them into the robot mode and treating them like the women they are, and then back to their real world. My heart is heavy.
    Mel

    I have lots of experience at this but in Colombia / Venezuela.

    Evey once in a while a chica comes along that is very special. I'm talking about with a pro from a casa, service, etc.

    The chemestry is perfect together and you spend good quality time together.
    You go way past the client / pro relationship.

    I've taken several chicas out of the houses in Colombia / Venezuela and have had pretty fun relationships with all of them.
    Though the boyfriend / girlfriend part of the relationships ended, I'm still pretty good friends with most of them.

    I helped most of them with further education, and only a couple of them got back into the "business".
    Of course the ones that got back into the business was because they were spoiled or lazy ... didn't want to study, or look for a "real job" ... like a stripper in the US, but to a lesser degree, they like the "easy money".

    Obviously it's much easier to do this in South America than in St Maarten, it can be done.

    A lot of dudes on this board say, "once in the biz, always in the biz", but that's not true. A lot of these chicas would love a shot at normalcy and a real relationship. It does take a commitment on the part of the guy though, to help the chica out and get her on her feet studying and working a real job.

    Much easier to do in Colombia than on the island, obviously. And much much less expensive.

    Just mis dos pesitos ... my 2 cents basically

  4. #678

    Faked Orgasms at Seamans Club

    After my TLN, I was at Seamans Club for the 11am opening and popped my vitamin V. already 5 guys in the bar, but no chicas. no music. no one selling drinks even. I took up a seat on a bench where I could watch the girls come in and enter their meal room. Most of them were in casual sleep clothes - very interesting to see them when they first wake up, before they dress and put on their makeup. A few look better, most look more ordinary!

    1. Eventually my regular Juliana walked in - dressed in a black halter and hot pants, ready to go. After some snuggling and foreplay at the bar, a couple of drinks (water for me), we set off for her room (15). Last time we had a short, very enjoyable $40 session. But then I went with other girls (with Juliana's blessing), over an hour, more attention, more money. I decided to thank her by spending an hour with her this time and making it an oasis of pleasure, like a vacation from the brothel (except for the sex for me at the end!). Long massage for her, both sides. Little kisses all over her body, from fingers to toes. Head massage (to relieve headaches from the noise in the bar). I paid attention to her until she relaxed and forgot temporarily about her problems (bar multas, too little business, other chicas, ...) Finally, long slow DATY. Then very long BBBJ for me, nice sex.

    But when it came time to climax, I held off. I had read on the Argentina forum about "sperm management" - holding off on coming so that you can do more girls. So I faked a quiet orgasm with mi amiga. Usually I come easily with the first girl, but with difficulty later, perhaps not at all. Today I decided to hold my "leche" (milk) until an incredible session, hopefully near the end of my day. So I tensed my muscles, moaned a bit, and collapsed on her. I don't know if she was fooled, but it fulfilled her pride requirement and I think it was at least as convincing as the many fake orgasms pulled on me by girls. I slipped the condom off myself and deposited it, wrapped in a wiping tissue, into the wastebasket, hiding the evidence (the girls always look- why?)

    At the bar, Juliana asked if she could have a music CD (she told me which of my CDs she has at home in colombia that i gave her last year). She settled on a Valenato cd (this is colombian country music with accordian). She gave it to the bartender to play and the girls were very surprised (they NEVER play Valenato in the bars! I am looking around at the other girls, spotted a very pretty morena in a red cocktail dress. Juliana, who is my regular, asks me if I want to go with another girl. I ask "Is it okay with you?" She replies, "No problem. I am numero uno!"

    2. So I tried to dance to the Valenato music with girl in red, Camila, but I didn't know the steps. Snuggled at the bar, but forgot to do my regular pre-session chat and neck massage. She was so hot looking, I forgot. In the room, an ordinary session with a hot girl (but with a saggy belly hidden under the cocktail dress. Nice, friendly, talented, but a bit abrupt, rushed, never relaxed, even during massage (just kept directing my fingers to the one spot in her lower back that really bothered her). About 20 minutes into this, I decided to fake orgasm again and save myself for the next girl! Will not repeat.

    3. Back at the bar again, talked to beautiful gloria the blonde roommate of juliana. Bought her a drink, gave my seat to a young guy who I thought would make a good customer for her (no luck). Eyed all the girls in the bar again. Juliana is not present, must have hooked up with another client. It should have been easy - after her hour "vacation" with me she was smiling and laughing and looked like a lot of fun.

    An attractive woman with braces came up to the bar on my left to talk to someone. I introduced myself and started talking. The bar was playing a CD of Juan Luis Guerra (romantic bacchata and merengue) that I had given them last month. We caught each other singing along to the music. Started talking about music, I mentioned that the cd being played was mine. we looked through my cds, talked in spanish. She said I was more colombian than caribbean and gringo. I pulled out my Joan Sebastian cd and asked the bartender to play it. Marta, my new friend, knew every song and could sing on tune. We spoke in spanish, but she speaks english as well.

    She told me she gives a special massage, but lots of girls say that. in her case, it was TRUE. in rm 11, we kissed and undressed each other, very romantically. Naked she had just the body type that I like best - muscled, not thin, fit, curvy. then she washed me off in the sink with antiseptic soap and herself as well. On the bed, she got the condom ready and I got worried ("isn't it early for the condom" I said. "don't worry" she said. "lie face down please").

    She started to massage my back, then added some nice massage oil, then massage with her tits, then her pussy, then her whole body, kissing my neck and ears from time to time. this was far and away the sexist massage that I have ever had. Finally, she flipped me over and repeated the entire process on the front, including massaging little zinger with her slick pussy lips!

    She expertly slipped my condom on. Her body was in the way, so I could not see and could barely feel what she was doing, since she kept massaging my balls and shaft while she did it. Covered blow job, which was really not necessary at this point. Cowgirl, put my hands on her breasts (enhanced, but nicely) and made me squeeze them, kissed my nipples snuggled my neck and kissed my ears. Without disengaging she rotated to reverse cowgirl, more incredible sensations. Then missionary, with a folded pillow under her hips for maximum penetration.

    For this girl, I finally climaxed. wow.

    we even had some nice post-coital snuggles and talk. she told me that the day before she had 5 men, and only fucked one of them (the other four were more than happy with the "massage"). I can believe it.
    I said "you know my favorite music, you are the best in bed, can you dance too?" she said, "I am the best dancer here. do you want me to dance for you? just pay me"

    rm 11. marta. remember that! unique experience in sxm.

    Back in the bar, jesicca hits me up for a session. i spot juliana across the bar. go to meet her. lift her feet off the ground in a big hug. to bar. "mucho fucky-fucky for you today?" she says, then laughs. Marta comes up to the bar and says she will dance on the stage if I buy her a vodka and orange juice. Ok! she changes into a white string bikini with a little white skirt and has the bar play "hips don't lie".

    On the dance stand, she really can dance. other girls start collecting tips for her. I bring her drink over and set it on the side of the dance stand. then she dances throughout the room, teases the guys, collects some $1 tips, and eventually retires back to her room. There is no applause or hooting - this is a pretty restrained crowd.

    4. Juliana and I cuddle at the bar - talk - kiss - drink. I have 30 minutes left, so I invite her back to her room for some quiet naked time: snuggle, kiss, fondle, another hard on (milagro!) no sex. then off for home.

    four hours in a single club. 2 faked orgasms. 1 real orgasm. a wonderul time. even with camila who wasn't a super session, i loved touching and kissing that beautiful body, and trying to kiss that beautiful face!

    -zing

  5. #677

    Ride Into The Danger Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Mel365
    Tonight my heart hurts, ............

    Tonight I feel like a slob taking these girls away from their routine which puts them into the robot mode and treating them like the women they are, and then back to their real world. My heart is heavy.
    Mel
    You have been lucky to find the dream....a girl that really cares for you and you really care for her. But the dream can also carry a heavy hurt as well.

    These young women give their all to us and it takes a very hard toll on their bodies, their minds and their hearts. Working as a provider changes them forever.

    All we can try to do while participating in the process is to hopefully give them a little relief from the crap. Even just being pleasant, clean and nice in a 20 minute session is often a change from the typical men who just want to use their bodies with no consideration for them as humans.

    Our little group of mongers on this board are, in general, kind and respectful to the girls. Some, like Mel and Zing, take it to even a higher level. I think we tend to negotiate having a little humanity in the experience rather than negotiating to drive down the price.

    Our dicks lead us into the houses, but if we can reach out with our hearts as well we can provide a little comfort to them at the same time.

    pogo

  6. #676
    Quote Originally Posted by Sxmperson101
    Why do you think the sex was less exciting during the TLN than during a session at Carolina's?
    I thought about that while I was having 4 sessions at Seamans after the TLN (report coming). Here are my thoughts:

    1) the girls are always behind on their sleep and energy.

    2) in the excitement of the moment at the beach I had 2 beers and then 2 glasses at wine at dinner. normally I don't drink any alcohol when I am mongering. by the time we were naked on the bed, I just wasn't up to my regular performance standards.

    3) being a heartless mongerer, after I set up the date with kenney I went to another club and had sex to completion with another girl! this used up most of my leche and screwed up my schedule for viagra - the label says one pill per 24 hours!

    4) when I go to the club, I am primed and ready. i don't drink. there is limited time, so i am sure to take advantage of it. during the TLN, there is too much time and I think I am too old to have sex for 12 hours straight (perhaps not. however, after what happened in the german FKK clubs).

    5) the fancy dinner in the french restaurant was another mistake from a mongering point of view - too full, too much wine. distracting. routard had suggested a simple snack at the beach - i think that would have been better.
    also the hot bath was a bad idea.

    So it was mostly my lack of experience and lack of self-control. I made it a perfect tranquil evening for her, instead of an exciting night of sex for me!

    -zing

  7. #675
    Tonight my heart hurts,
    I spoke to mi amor in SXM this evening. She does not know how to use the voicemail so even though I connected to her phone many times I was only able to speak to her once today.
    After 8 days with me, I know it was hard for her to go back to the bullshit of her work.
    It really breaks my heart that she has to work, but that is life and unfortunately, I can do nothing about it. She was literally crying into the phone as to how much she misses me and I feel her pain as I too wish I were with her and not just for sex. I know she was sincere and I feel like a heel leaving her to her shit.

    Then the monger in me pops up. My other problem is in 12 days I am having my other amor flown in from Bogotá.
    This will require much engineering to keep them apart.
    I have trouble keeping the E-mails and names separate. This is why all working girls call their dates honey, or mi amor etc and never use a first name.

    Tonight I feel like a slob taking these girls away from their routine which puts them into the robot mode and treating them like the women they are, and then back to their real world. My heart is heavy.
    Mel

  8. #674

    congratulations on "popping "your TLN cherry

    ZING,
    I have found a number of chicas great in the house but find a TLN a good excuse for an easy night off and an early bed time. it is a true provider that makes the night a thing of wonderment. next time, i would go with a chica that wasn't leaving so soon and make it clear what what is expected of the evening. i believe if kenny were to go out a few more times (and not so elaborately) you would have a great bed partner. i was surprised at her actions as she seems to have some chemistry with you.
    mel

  9. #673
    Quote Originally Posted by Zing23
    All in all, I think I made a great friend, and I can afford the expense, but I would have had more fun spending the money on a marathan sex day in St Maarten.

    -zing
    Congratulations on your first TLN

    I usually feel the same way at the end of them too. The idea of it seems really great, but once it's happening, it's never as great as it seemed like it would have been. At least you can afford the TLNs! I've been living off of canned foods for a while now due to the $$ I blew last month! haha (but damn it was worth it!)

    Why do you think the sex was less exciting during the TLN than during a session at Carolina's?

  10. #672

    My first SXM TLN

    I arranged for Kenney/Shakira (Carolina rm 14, leaves this Wed) to be my first all-night girl in St Maarten (Todos La Noches=TLN). Kenney is a girl that i have visited several times since Dec, always with very sexy sessions (see last report for example). I paid the bar fine of $45 and picked her up at 4pm (when the afternoon is over and the girl's free time starts).

    We went first to the beach - L'Orient beach on the french side at her request, then La Salsa bar at her request as well (this is located at the south end of the beach, just before the naturist hotel, about 4 bars down from Kon Tiki, next door to a jet ski rental place, with a Gauvaberry sign on the beach side because it doesn't say La Salsa on the sign). She and the other girls like this place because everyone speaks Spanish and they play Latina music.

    We had a couple of beers, talked to a few people, talked to each other, relaxed, then went for a swim together. This was a lot of fun - i haven't taken a chica to the beach for a swim in over a year. Then Kenney asked if we could ride a jet ski. She had never done it before, and neither had I!! For $40, we had 30 minutes together out on the sea on a jet ski. I steered and Kenney screamed encouragement. It was great fun. She reach around me and grabbed the handles and took over control of the throttle (but I was still steering, since she could not see around me). Highly recommended activity, if you have an enthusiastic chica.

    Then we went to my hotel to cleanup for dinner out. Kenney called Beatriz in Colombia, one of my former amigas at Carolina, who just happens to be one of Kenney's best friends. I find it difficult to talk Spanish on the telephone, where I cannot see the person, but we had a nice chat and I did learn that she is headed for Curacai shortly. The hotel had a big bathroom and tub, which I filled and we had a long hot bath together. Kenney said she had missed having baths at Carolina, where there is only a shower and only cold water. I put on a CD of tranquil music that I had selected and we stretched out on the bed to snuggle and kiss. Then Kenney said, just 10 minutes please, and fell dead asleep!

    The girls finish their "day" at 3 in the morning, or 4 if the bar is full of clients. She says she falls asleep as soon as she hits the pillow, but has to wake up before 10am in order to get ready for the 11am opening of the bar. During their free time from 4 to 8pm, many girls grab a nap for a couple of hours. But I had taken Kenney to the beach instead, then put her in a hot bath.

    After 20 minutes, I couldn't wake her up. So I called the restaurant and negotiated a delay. After waiting as long as I could, I started giving her a massage with some body lotion from the hotel. This got her attention and woke Kenney up. She dressed for dinner in "designer" jeans, a sexy top, and high-heel sandals. Not that different from many tourists, but very sexy on a young latina with a nice rack.

    I had selected an elegant french restaurant, even though I knew it might make her a bit uncomfortable. She was the only latina in the restaurant, the only good looking woman in her 20s, and the only one with darkish skin, staff included. The menu was only in french and english, and typically obscure french/caribbean. She said she only wanted a small meal, so I ordered her a bowl of green pea cream soup with shrimps, plus an appetizer of lobster raviola. Both were delicious, as was my food and the St Estephe wine. Kenney and I continued our good talks, she told me about the 1 month vacation that she spent in Weisbaden Germany and the German words she learned (her youngest son is named Joergen, I wonder why?) Kenney handled the restaurant fine, although she noticed that she was unique. I think the other tables noticed her and were jealous or disapproving, but no one said anything out of line.

    We returned to the hotel which was nearby and continued our chats on the bed. We are becoming better friends, but what about sex? I am full of food and wine, not the best condition for sex. Kenney feels that she needs to take care of me, so she initiates a blowjob and some intercourse (covered). But it was not nearly as sexy as the 60 minute sessions I orchestrated in her room at Carolina!

    Instead of going out to dance/club, we put Pirates of the Caribbean II on the laptop with the Spanish soundtrack and the english subtitles. I was really getting in Captain Jacks adventures with the natives who were going to cook him, when I noticed that Kenney had fallen back asleep. So I drifted off to sleep also.

    We got up about 730am, ate the fruit plate that the hotel had left the night before, talked some more. Listened to music, kissed and hugged, then had sex again around 830. it was nice, but nothing like the exciting sex at Carolinas. Kenney is really enjoying the quiet location of the hotel, the breakfast on the veranda, the attention, and especially the sleep/relaxation.

    At 1030 I took her back to Carolina and said goodbye, as she leaves on Wed for Colombia.

    All in all, I think I made a great friend, and I can afford the expense, but I would have had more fun spending the money on a marathan sex day in St Maarten.

    -zing

  11. #671
    sxmperson-that sounds like laura room 15. she should be leaving shortly.
    brown, magenta,and blonde hair.
    good choice.
    mel

  12. #670
    Oh, and refreshingliny she speaks a bit of english.

  13. #669
    I'm not sure what her room number is. Her room was ocupado so we had to go to another girls room. She's relatively short, small, augmented breasts (I think... I didn't pay much attention), she's cute, and has multiple colors in her hair. She looks kinda older (she said she is 29-30). She's been around for two months. Name is Laura (lah-oo-rah). I hope that helps.

  14. #668
    sxmperson----what room number?

  15. #667
    Well, tonight I went out really craving a BBBJ. I actually prefer a full BBBJ w/ CIM instead of CFS. So tonight I go out to Carolinas. A girl came up to me, named Laura, from Colombia. Not the usual kind of girl I would go with, but she was pleasant and I asked her back. So off we go.

    We get in her room, and we disrobe. She lays me on the bed and starts off on my nipples, and works her way down to my penis. She's kissing all around it, and at this point I'm REALLY craving the BBBJ, and sure enough she starts kissing on my shaft and licking my shaft and balls. So I kinda reach down and hold it up a bit so she takes it all in her mouth and starts giving a really nice and enjoyable BBBJ. She kept going and going. I never suggested she move to sex. This lasted a decent while and when I felt like I was getting ready to come, I told her, but she kept going and let me CIM. Fine with me! She didn' care at all, and was really nice about everything.

    I will def. Repeat!

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