St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Mel365]

I guess i will be the first ISG monger in sxm tomorrow.
thank you all for your comments.
they have made this past year VERY enjoyable.
mel

[Madan99]

Today I ma back from my cruise and been to St. Maarten. I was there on Dec. 26th day after christmas. My sincere thanks to MEL365 and SMXman for the help and Router for giving directions on the map.

At about 11:30 a.m. I took cab and went straight to the Carolinas. As described did not have any sign but the door was open and was just accross Crystals club which has sign on.

As soon as I entered the bar, there were a few attractive chicas from Colombia greeted me. I set at the bar and in no time there were more than 10 beauties around. Most were from 7to9. very difficult to decide. Funny thing was that I was the only guy with very little speaking knowledge of Spanish. I selected one chica(name I don't like to put here as I did not ask for her permission) about 9 and discussed about my needs and agreed for the amount and went back to her room. Paid $3 for the room at bar.

The room was nice and clean with A.C.and bathroom with tub.

We proceeded with the sex in all possible different positions and ways. I can say I had best time of the life.

I highly recommand Carolina to any monger who is in or planning to visit St. Maarten.

Enjoy

[Zing23]

During the low season it seemed like girls weren't making as much as they thought they would before coming there, is it like that year round for Defiance and Casa B. girls?

i think the defiance and casa b girls do okay in the season. plenty of local guys, some tourists, esp at casa b, local white guys. and the local guys have money. in the dead season, no one has extra money for chicas (except me).

at casa bl you pay the bar before going to the room, even during the early afternoon. but no one checks on the time in the room. girls say they cannot leave at all without a bar fine.

at defiance, no one checks anything in the afternoon. there are probably still some cute girls there now, which i saw when i dropped in at 1am in mid dec.

in general, i did not feel that having the girls really desperate made for better service. the best is an unrushed time during a period when the girls are generally doing well (i.e., they feel positive that they made the right choice coming to sxm).

just my opinion. could be wrong as I cannot read their minds.

-zing

[Routard]

Yes , Im back in SXM on Thursday (january 4th) and will rush straigth to Carolina. If anyone wants to meet me, I'll be there from 6pm till closing. If you don't see me, I might be in a room.

Shark, sorry we missed. Mel and Pogo, I'm looking forward to meet you. Zing, what about staying for the night? We could make an ISG meeting!

[Lucky Strike]

defiance opens in a very relaxed way about 1230pm, but there is never a crowd there in the afternoon. and almost no cruise ship people. this is a perfect time to visit defiance
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That's very useful suggestion. I think I sort of been doing that already last summer.

Zing, since you've been a constant presence and our "eyes and ears" on the island for over a year, do you think that without the "cruise ship crowd" girls in Defiance and Casa B. make a lot less than in Seamans and Carolina, and would that translate into better service (attemt to get repeat business?)

During the low season it seemed like girls weren't making as much as they thought they would before coming there, is it like that year round for Defiance and Casa B. girls?

[Shark16]

juliana started out from the very first minute as a GFE provider. but after about a month, i started to get wandering eyes. one time when she wasn't around, I went to the room with 2 other girls, who weren't very memorable (rats!). Naturally she heard all about it and went into a disappointed girlfriend routine. whether it was real or not doesn't really matter. it impacted her performance and my reaction to it.

i gave the matter some thought and discussed it with some girls at other clubs. i finally came to the conclusion that I had actually been quite impolite to her.

here is why: if you always go with a selection of girls, the girls accept that and don't think anythng of it. they just work hard to get your attention and get one of the repeats.

however, if you go exclusively with 1 girl, she gains prestige with the other girls. it doesn't imply that she loves you or anthing like that - it is just that a steady customer, especially if he is nice and generous and brings gifts, is the ideal goal for any working girl. and very ego satisfying, in a job that must tend to be soul sucking at times.

when you "cheat" on her, that makes her look foolish in the eyes of the other girls. there is a lot of jealously and competition among the girls. so, even though she was only a paid partner, i apologized to her and didn't cheat on her again.

Zing,
I think you make some excellent points here, and it could explain some of my own mistakes on my SXM trip. BTW I had an absolutely fabolous time the first ten days of my vacation, but something went wrong the last few days. I addition to what Zing says, may I add a couple of similar experiences made:

- Try to limit the selection of girls you go with. If the girls get the impression that you go with new girls all the time, after a while they will not work so hard to get their repeat, and trust me, you will miss the attention from the girls(!) and get a less rewarding experience at the club.

- After a TLN, be sure to treat the girl respectfully upon your next visit to the club. It can be difficult to change partner. I know I tried to do it respectfully, and still "failed"; in the sense that the relationship with my TLN got cold and affected my relationship with the other girls (less attention/less friendly attitude). This is also a question of language barriers. The more Spanish you know, the better communication, the lesser misunderstandings, the more fun you have, the better sex you get .... What better motivation can you ask for to learn a new language? ;-) Anyways, next time I will be more selective in my TLN pick. Once you have had a TLN with a girl, it may be hard to move on to the next girl.

Can anyone report a successful trip to Carolina with two TLNs with different girls? I am not sure whether this is possible, but I sure would like to know! :-) Anyone?

The trip was my first mongering tour to SXM, but hopefully others can learn from my mistakes and further comments from experienced SXM mongers, and thereby optimize their experience in the future.

Anyway, as so many others in this thread I can absolutely recommend visits to Carolina and Seaman's. Those colombianas are indeed very sweet and charming, and a huge latina addiction is growing here.

[PogoStick]

I'm going to be in SXM 1/3 - 1/9. Anyone else going to be there?

I am thinking of heading out to Kali's on Friars Beach for the full moon party. Has anyone else here gone to this party? I have heard that it can turn into an orgy sometimes and that the herb is in abundance. I haven't decided if I should chance finding an amateur at the party or if I should stop at one of the casas to bring my own.

pogo

[Zing23]

Zing, really enjoyed your reports (as always), thanks.

2 questions: when Seamans and Carolina are packed in the middle of the day, what about Defiance and Casa Blanca? Do they have any of the "cruise ship" crowd there too?
Is there anything "special" planned for the new year's eve/day in the "bars" that you've been to recently?

defiance opens in a very relaxed way about 1230pm, but there is never a crowd there in the afternoon. and almost no cruise ship people. this is a perfect time to visit defiance (in the winter mainly, rooms are quite hot in the summer, as there is no a/c). no time limits, no bar fee, pay afterwards, no bar fine to take a girl to the beach, etc. only downside: some hot girls don't bother going down to the bar at this time. so go at night and get their phone numbers, then call them about 1pm! another tip: you can slip into their room earlier thru the side gate, if you have prearranged an earlier visit, say at 1130am.

casa blanca opens about 230 or 3pm, but there are only a few girls in the bar. check the restaurant too, and outside (why are there girls outside, sitting on the rocks around the parking lot? because cellphones don't work in the bar!), if you want to do a survey of available talent. have never seen a cruise ship passenger or crew there.

-zing

[Lucky Strike]

after carolina, I did some errands and entered seamans club about 215pm. The place was jammed with guys, standing room only (4 cruise ships in port today),

Zing, really enjoyed your reports (as always), thanks.

2 questions: when Seamans and Carolina are packed in the middle of the day, what about Defiance and Casa Blanca? Do they have any of the "cruise ship" crowd there too?

Is there anything "special" planned for the new year's eve/day in the "bars" that you've been to recently?

[Zing23]

after carolina, i did some errands and entered seamans club about 215pm. The place was jammed with guys, standing room only (4 cruise ships in port today), plus local guys (many people in sxm take the entire xmas week off, at least no work ever seems to get done). it seemed like there were no girls, only guys.

but as I walked up to the bar, i spotted a brunette at the end of the dark bar who looked familiar and Lorena (another one of routard's slim, teenage blondes, although this one has boobs). lorena reached out and said hola, even though she was entangled with a potential client. she couldn't close the deal with the guy she was working on, so she started talking to me. she is off to colombia next wed with a suitcase full of gifts for everyone. she plans a long vacation with nothing to do but sleep and quiet.

lorena asked me if my friend routard was ever coming back to st maarten. she missed him. I said I didn't think he would be visiting before next wed, sorry.
then she asked if I had a marc anthony cd for her (on a previous visit i had said i would make one for her). although I had actually forgotten about it, i happened to have a marc anthony cd with me because girls like it. So i got credit anyway for being thoughtful!

as we were talking, the familiar brunette in the corner walked past and disappeared into the girl's eating room. i did a double take. that looks like juliana, a girl from last march!

lorena could see that she wasn't making a sale with me, only friendship, so she wandered off. at this time I notice 5 girls standing and sitting by the stage. I exit the huge crowd of guys and wander over.

among the girls i spotted catarina, a session from november who speaks english and who i didn't plan to repeat with (she always seems like she is laughing at the guys, including me - i know we can be funny, but i like the illusion that the girls don't notice!).

caterine told me that all my friends had gone back to colombia. among the new girls were some very nice looking ones. caterina asked me if i wanted her to fix me up with the dark haired girl i was looking at. I said thanks, but no thanks, when I find one that interests me I can go up and introduce myself. she also mentioned that most of the guys there were just drinking and talking, not going with girls. that may be true, but when i came in the bar there were almost no girls present, so i suspect a little bit of paid sex must have been going on.

then the door to the girls lunch room opened and out walked juliana. yep, i recognize her. I go up and say hello. she says she spotted me immediately when I entered the bar, while i didn't spot her. she still looks good - slim natural figure, dark hair, pretty face. in rm 20.

last year I had this 3 month experience with alexandra of seamans, where i did not go with other girls (at that club!). at the end, alexandra turned me over to juliana and told me that she would look after me.

and she was right. juliana started out from the very first minute as a GFE provider. but after about a month, i started to get wandering eyes. one time when she wasn't around, I went to the room with 2 other girls, who weren't very memorable (rats!). Naturally she heard all about it and went into a disappointed girlfriend routine. whether it was real or not doesn't really matter. it impacted her performance and my reaction to it.

i gave the matter some thought and discussed it with some girls at other clubs. i finally came to the conclusion that I had actually been quite impolite to her.

here is why: if you always go with a selection of girls, the girls accept that and don't think anythng of it. they just work hard to get your attention and get one of the repeats.

however, if you go exclusively with 1 girl, she gains prestige with the other girls. it doesn't imply that she loves you or anthing like that - it is just that a steady customer, especially if he is nice and generous and brings gifts, is the ideal goal for any working girl. and very ego satisfying, in a job that must tend to be soul sucking at times.

when you "cheat" on her, that makes her look foolish in the eyes of the other girls. there is a lot of jealously and competition among the girls. so, even though she was only a paid partner, i apologized to her and didn't cheat on her again. and when she left for colombia, she turned me over to louisa, who was one of my best experiences ever.

the interesting thing is that the sessions with juliana were never quite so perfect after my misstep as they were before. nothing precise that you could identify and complain about. and perhaps it was in my attitude, not hers.

meeting Juliana again was a new experience for me. Since i have only been visiting sxm clubs for 1.3 years, this is the first of the chicas that I know who has come back to sxm. so I invited her to the room.

it would be nice to say that we picked up right where we left off and things only got better, but the session was a bit disappointing. either she or I was holding back. but still a very nice girl who gives a good BBBJ and who i would recomend giving a try.

-zing

[Routard]

not the thin teenage figure that routard likes.

How did you notice this?

[Zing23]

mel, a starfish is a girl that lies there, spreadeagled, without moving, while you do the deed. just like a starfish.

interesting visit to sxm.

i went into carolina bar about 1115am looking for kenney from cali, who i really enjoyed 2 weeks ago (she is in rm 14 now). curly black hair, hispanic/native face, handsome rather than beautiful, natural large breasts, real hips and butt (not the thin teenage figure that routard likes).

at first another girl tried to get my attention by standing in front of me at the bar and giving me a standing lap dance. but then i spotted kenney, who gave a smile when she saw me. I called her over, since girls never interfere when another girl is working on a client. after a greeting and a kiss, the first girl did not move, so i had to ask her "pardon" and slide her away.

i asked kenney for an hour - i think she was a bit flustered, having taken me from another girl, then going for an hour. i put up $6 on the bar, but she said only $3, then corrected herself before I could get out the change. then she guided me to the left, toward the wrong door to the back!

in the room, i put on a cd of romantic latin music and told her it was a xmas gift for her. xmas was not a good day for her, away from home, customers wanting to be cheerful and entertained when she just wanted to cry. i gave her a nice long massage, from neck down to feet. the most important areas to concentrate on are the neck, shoulders, feet and calf muscles (due to the high heel shoes they wear). then kenney asked for a massage on the front as well. I complied, but did not massage her nipples or pussy. I figure they get lots of guys grabbing there, so it would be more arousing to just massage around those areas, only lightly brushing over them by accident. then I lay down between her legs and massaged her pussy with my stomach while I started to kiss her and massage around her breasts.

only after i sensed that she was totally relaxed and turned on did i start kissing her breasts and sucking lightly on her nipples (all the time continuing to massage her pussy with my body). i had used a lot of baby oil for the massage, but this interferes somewhat with later activities, so in future i would use only a little bit and only on the back.

her pussy was freshly shaved and sweet smelling, so i didn't hesitate. as with the first time, she got totally into it. after about 10 minutes of daty, eventually combined with one hand massaging a nipple and the other with two fingers on her g-spot and the little finger in her ass, she climaxed. and just kept climaxing. eventually i moved up for a hug and a kiss (some girls won't kiss you after daty, but kenney was not put off by her own juices). i thought i had gone pretty long, but she asked for more (mas). i snuggled up, fingered her clit and kissed her breasts and I got harder and harder.

kenney moved down for a bbbj. it was great, but didn't last as long as it could have. instead she went for the condom and pushed me on my back and climbed aboard. what followed was the most intense cowgirl i have ever had with a working girl, culminating in another climax for her and her collapsing on my chest.

we switched to mish, doggie, flat doggie and mish again. for a long time. afterwards, she said she felt like she had lost 2 kilos, then gave me a nice massage. i took a long shower and gave her a tiny stuffed animal as a regalo (gift), followed by a little dancing to the music and some kisses. the cd was just on the last song, so we had been in the room for about 70 minutes. I left $80 on the dresser, rather than asking her how much or waiting for her to ask for money.

back in the bar, she talked to her companera (roommate) and hugged me and then asked me if i wanted to share her lunch with her from the room. i said sure, so after about 45 seconds in the bar, we marched back past the curious girls watching us and into the "hotel" again. kenney picked up her takeaway lunch from another girl's room and led me to the girl's private lounge.

you may not have known the girls have a private lounge. it is at the end of the main hallway, where the door opens to a courtyard with a coin laundromat and girl's clothes hanging on lines. the lounge is the end of the hallway and the chairs are two 1 gallon paint cans!

we sat and shared her lunch, which was a colombian meal of sliced cucumber and cabbage with a lime, rice, french fries, spagetti and a nice piece of cooked fish. she said that a columbian guy who lives in st maarten brings the food, it is not from the restaurant. we agreed that everything was fattening except the fish and the cucumber.

this was the first time that a chica has invited me to share a meal and provided the meal as well.

the reason i went into the details of this session, was because she was so GFE, without stepping over into GF mode or asking for gifts/money, etc. in our first session, we had a short conversation first at the bar, but I was distracted talking to melissa at the time (and mel on melissa's cellphone). she started out like a normal, professional, 20 minute suckie-fuckie session and it took a bit of BFE interference on my part to snap her out of it (massage, then daty, etc.) and convert it into a nice long 35 minute GFE session.

the second time, kenney was really hot and attentive, and sexually demanding. i thought you might like to know what i did to elicit this response. i find that every little thing makes a difference in how the girl treats you, including mistakes that are never really forgotten (more on that in my next report, on my subsequent visit to seamans club).

-zing

[Mel365]

I noticed this term used in other forums. anyone have a definition when used in reference to a working girl?
thanks
mel

[Mel365]

Ok boys,
Back to the purpose of this forum.
I am headed down to sxm in the next few days- how about some names and room numbers. I hate making like columbus and finding undiscovered new pusssy.
I will only be there for about 15 days so I need some names and room numbers to start reducing the sperm count.
thanks
mel

[Jan Chris]

i have always agreed with zing23 and routard in the past, and there again. this is a general topic, however my experience is limited to columbians in sxm and curacao. i have tried on several occasion to have a different type of relation with chicas i particularly fancied. all experiences are very different.

one has left the prostitution because she could not do it anymore. her name's gladys. true, it is the most disgusting thing on earth, especially when you see these trinidadian locals, dirty and uneducated. at the same time the columbians we're talking about know what they are doing, they chose to do so, they were not obliged, they are not exploited and raped before by their "boyfriend". with gladys we saw on two occasions having a more lover's than financial type of relation, but no real love. i consider her as a friend. she was happy with that situation, staying with me. i did not really gave her money but material comfort. still, it was not a genuine girlfriend relations. she got herself out of the job, without my assistance.

another one invited me in cali. her name's maria-elena. there was a chemestry between us, but i finally figured out i did not love her. she was really honest, she did not try to use me as a money provider, and somehow i feel sorry that i could not reciprocate her feelings for me. she stopped her job herself after puting aside what she wanted to.

i felt in love with a couple of other ones. with one of them, sandra, alias johana, we had sex without exchange of money. but i rapidely figured out she was trying to use me, we had an severe exchange of views in our hotel room in bogota, so she left. i suspect she lied to me and had a boyfriend in columbia. i was very naive. i never saw her again. i was really in love with her. another one in curacao was also a dammed lyer, and i was stupid enough to send her money for her to come and see me, like the first one i mentionned, which she of course never did.

on several occasions, some chicas warned me not to fall in love, one in sxm explained me the whole thing, she had a bf in columbia (which she said she did not really love, but he was rather rich, so...). i do not think any of them like this job. a lot fake and gives you a gfe, there are the most dangerous. i believe this work change their personality forever maybe. the ultimate problem is that they finally have a deteriorated image of men, because of us, and at the same time, we have a deteriorated image of them, because we see them as putas, not as genuine women. a balanced relationship needs estime for each other, this has to be rebuild, otherwise there is no hope.

as a conclusion, i think the chance to rescue a girl are minimal. which does not mean there are not existant. but you should have a good reason for that and remain very cautious at all times. do not let her take money out of your wallet without tangible results more than one time. that is already one time too much.

guess what? i am giving a last try with one girl i met in sxm. i can't say i felt in love with her, i have been very honest with her in ths respect. but something special happened between us. i need to know her in depth. i am doing whatever is necessary for her to come and visit me, and we'll see what happen. maybe she is trying to fool me. but is will be the last time at least with a columbian, because i am not going back to the carribean any more.