St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Sxmperson101]

Hello

I was curious how scared I should be of STDs from brothels in St. Maarten? Meaning, AIDS, Herpes, etc. It seems after all the men they service, they most likely will have Herpes. And if they are rubbing their wet vagina on the penis, it can be transferred.

Just curious.

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the Safe Sex topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. Thanks!

[PogoStick]

Thanks for the kind words, but I have only been doing this for less than a year and learned most of my approach from reading reports by Routard, Ford, yourself, and many others on ISG. I will post my first year summary at the end of September, which you may find entertaining (my most embarassing 10 moments!).

-zing

That's what this board is for...to share our experiences and we all learn from each other. I know that my mongering has been a lot more fun since I found this board.

I look forward to the summery! It should be interesting. By the way...a few weeks ago I found some of your first posts on the newbie boards. You learn fast!

You have been lucky to be able to visit more often than most of us and have used that time to get to know the girls on a much more personal level. Some of the insights that you have related about their daily lives, relationships and attitudes are priceless.

pogo

[Zing23]

Zing...
I think one of the best things about this board, as opposed to a few others, is that it is geared more towards enhancing the experience rather than just how to get it cheaper. Other boards it's more like "I worked her down to $20 and rammed her ass 6 ways". Not here, however.
Thanks to you, Routard, Ford and many others we can all learn about the Fine Art of Mongering. Treating the girls as they really are...nice sweet young women that have feelings and desires. It makes for a much richer experience.
pogo

Thanks for the kind words, but I have only been doing this for less than a year and learned most of my approach from reading reports by Routard, Ford, yourself, and many others on ISG. I will post my first year summary at the end of September, which you may find entertaining (my most embarassing 10 moments!).

-zing

[PogoStick]

Zing...

Awesome reports dude!

I think one of the best things about this board, as opposed to a few others, is that it is geared more towards enhancing the experience rather than just how to get it cheaper. Other boards it's more like "I worked her down to $20 and rammed her ass 6 ways". Not here, however.

Thanks to you, Routard, Ford and many others we can all learn about the Fine Art of Mongering. Treating the girls as they really are...nice sweet young women that have feelings and desires. It makes for a much richer experience.

I'm in my off season for travel right now....and it's driving me nucking futs! (I don't play in the US) Might be able to squeeze a Curacao trip in the next few weeks I hope. If not, I am in time out for another month or so.

This season I hope to take the hobby to new levels...more attention to the experience and how it can be expanded.

I like the siesta concept. I did that one time quite a while ago with a girl at Defiance. (don't remember who) Made a date to take her to Orient Beach on Sunday afternoon. She told me to just knock on her door anytime after 10AM. I did and she was still asleep. She let me in and we cuddled and napped for a couple hours. I woke her up by DATY...we played for a while and hit the beach. It was great! I never thought of actually pursuing a siesta ...but I will keep it in mind. I prefer the "off times" at the houses anyhow.

Might be fun to get a couple cool mongers together, rent a multi-bedroom villa for a couple nights, grab a few chicas for TLNs and have a night out on the town.

Another idea is to take a TLN to the swing club 240.

I am also thinking of timing at least one trip next season for the full moon party at Friars...possibly taking a TLN or maybe checking out the amateur action.

I sure hope we can meet up on one of our trips.


pogo

[Routard]

Best technique I have found to say no to a girl that doesn't take no for answer is:

"Estoy esparando una otra chica"

It doesn't mater if it si true or not. It will not hurt the feelings of the girl and she will instantly leave. This is a golden rule amongst the chicas: "Don't take the regular customer of another chica".

Having said this, I always pay a drink to a girl that asks for it, even if I don't want to go with her. It allows me to socialize, know some more chicas and spend a nice evening in a relaxed atmosphere. It's always better than hanging alone at the bar.

[Zing23]

I found Seamans Club this afternoon. This was my first visit to one of these places, ever. As I walked in a couple of girls grabbed my penis. I walked in and got a beer. Within a few minutes a girl was by my side, trying to .. seduce me. I remember reading about the girls in Seamans getting "rewards" if they order the wine. I asked if she wanted a drink, she asked for the wine. I saw the blue ticket they gave her. I laughed inside. She had the hottest body in the place so I dealt with it.

She said she was Colombian. Had big fake breasts. We went back in the room and we negotiated a price for a CBJ that I thought was a little high, but it was my first time so I didn't say anything.

Questions: 1. How do you say "Next!"? I wanted to say that when she told me she wanted wine, since I knew it was a reward for her if she got it. I was afraid of upsetting her and ending up murdered. And 2. How do you negotiate a price? What are the proper rates for a CBJ?

$40 is the std price for a 20-30 miinute visit to the room with a girl. this should include at least cbj and cfs, but may also include BBBJ if you ask and lots more, same price. There is no std price for just a BJ (covered is asummed 90% of the time). However, this is the slowest time of the year, so just offer $20 for "chupa solo" (blowjob only) if that is what you want.

You cannot easily hurt these girls feelings.

To say no, there are 2 techniques. She will ask you "fucky fucky", just say "no gracias". After 1, 2 or 3 tries, she will always move on. Or just say "el bano" and get up and go to the bathroom. When you come back, sit with another girl!

If you want to buy her a $2 drink, offer "biber cerverza?" (bee bear sir bay sa) which means would you like to drink a beer. If she says "vino" which is $5 (pronounced bee no), you can just say "no gracias" and move away.

good luck. try Carolina too, which is just around the corner, down arch road to the next street, turn left, second bldg, unmarked doorway in the middle. 11am to late, dead from 430 to 730pm.

-zing

[Mel365]

Muy suave. Nap time what a great idea. Did you get milk and cookies?

[Zing23]

Three cruise ships in port, a lot more people at carolina and seamans, but very quiet at Defiance and Casa Blanca.

Carolina: Third time with Estafania (rm 14, Louisa's old rm!) - getting more yummy each time. DATY this time, tasty.

Defiance: Alexandra from Cartagena, rm 211. leaves in 2 weeks. Many visits to this girl. Very sexy. A bit older. Very nice to me. Samantha from cartagena is gone, but there are a few new girls.

Casa Blanca: called Nancy (rm 1) on the cellphone and she is still there. Another excellent session, but YMMV as I think she is really into me now (although our first session was very good also). She was a little miffed that was in Casa Blanca over the weekend and did not call her. She said that if she is not in the bar, just ask Ramona the bartender about her - if ishe is not busy, I can just pay the $45 and go direct to her room (a surprise for her).

Got her tel number in Santo Domingo in case I ever visit. Nancy says the construction project at Casa Blanca is building rooms for a lot more girls from Santo Domingo (they already have 40), plus a laundry and a beauty salon.

Still trying to organize a chica siesta with one or two chicas (they do share rooms, so I thought this might be easier). Nothing was easy. From 11am to 6pm is a long afternoon, especially if you visit 3 or 4 chicas in that time. I could really use a rest!

Thought I had something possible lined up at Carolina at 4pm, but by 4:15pm she hadn't showed up in the bar, so I went to Seamans. At the bar, I talked to 3 Colombianas: Paulina, Carolina and Andrea. Carolina was the best looking, but Paulina was the most fun! Paulina is big for a Colombiana, more like the size of a typical St Maarten girl, although Paulina is white. Implants. Strawberry blond hair. So I tried to sign her up for my siesta. Her room was busy, so we went to another girl's room, which we are not going to be able to keep for 1.5 hours. After a nice, but regular session of 25 minutes, we exited the borrowed room - she had ignored my request for a massage and siesta (probably did not believe it).

This is where I went out of the box. As we went past her actual room (#2) I said how about using your room for a real siesta now. So she opened the room and we sat down. But she is worried about security so I just pulled out another $40 and said - now we are legal. Nice massages, kisses, caresses, cuddles. I almost fell asleep and I think she did fall asleep. Luckily, I had my cellphone set to alarm when I had to leave! Mostly I focused on having a nice chat, getting closer to her, setting up for next time.

Paulina is from Medellin. I asked her about Mangos and Fase Dos. She was amazed that I knew about them. She says the women in Medellin are incredibly good looking (in her opinion), especially the dancers at Mangos disco, but even just ordinary girls at Centro Commercial shopping mall. It turns out she used to work at Fase Dos which is a strip club/brothel. She was the biggest girl there (Paisas are usually quite small), so they called her Paulina Grande. A typical story: 3 year old son, father split. This is her first trip to St Maarten, first trip out of Colombia. She had no idea that this is the dead time of year (for tourism), but she has noticed that the local guys in the bar are very short of cash for taking girls.

I started out with a hard core pro first session with Paulina and ended the second session with a very mellow girl. It was a good experiment and use of $40 extra: do something unexpected and then really appreciate her. I told her I had 4 girls today at different places and she said that was amazing, and cool. She suggested I try the same girl 4 times in one afternoon, for a change (her of course).

-zing

[Sxmperson101]

I found Seamans Club this afternoon. This was my first visit to one of these places, ever. As I walked in a couple of girls grabbed my penis. I walked in and got a beer. Within a few minutes a girl was by my side, trying to .. seduce me. I remember reading about the girls in Seamans getting "rewards" if they order the wine. I asked if she wanted a drink, she asked for the wine. I saw the blue ticket they gave her. I laughed inside. She had the hottest body in the place so I dealt with it.

She said she was Colombian. Had big fake breasts. We went back in the room and we negotiated a price for a CBJ that I thought was a little high, but it was my first time so I didn't say anything.

Questions: 1. How do you say "Next!"? I wanted to say that when she told me she wanted wine, since I knew it was a reward for her if she got it. I was afraid of upsetting her and ending up murdered. And 2. How do you negotiate a price? What are the proper rates for a CBJ?

[Lucky Strike]

Found on Google Videos:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+driving&hl=en

On the video:
Seaman's - turn left into the wire gate at 27:19
Defiance - turn right under yellow arch at 29:23
Sunset Retreat - turn uphill right at 31:40
Casa Blanca - right turn at 32:49

"conventional" text directions have been posted numerous times already.

[Mel365]

The directions and a map are in reports of distinction.

The cheapest place to stay which is a little ride is Captain Olivers in Oyster Pond.

Mel 365

[Sxmperson101]

Hello,

I am requesting driving directions to the brothels (Seamans, etc). I will be coming from Simpson Bay. From reading the other posts here, it seems I need to go down the main road that goes by Grand Marche, etc.. But I can't seem to find it from there.

Please advise.

[DR Monger II]

I have a question to ask, do any of you guys know where to rent a room thats cheap (less than $100) to stay while in St. Martin?

[Zing23]

Zing,

Great report- thanks for the heads up.

I hope to add to the data base very soon.

a couple of other details from sunday.

seamans is now majority dominicanas, with colombianas in the minority.

and carolina has 3 or 4 new black girls who seem to be dominicanas, although
i could be wrong.

my guess is that since aug-sep-oct is the quietest tourism time of the year, they are having trouble recruiting enough girls from colombia.

-zing

p.s. the dominicanas can be quite cute and fun in the room.

[Mel365]

Zing,

Great report- thanks for the heads up.

I hope to add to the data base very soon.