St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Zing23]

-Do I have to worry about guys eyeballing me and my car when I pull-up?

The later at night and the younger and more gang-like the guys, the more to worry about. Casa Blanca is the club that gets in the newspaper with occassional crime problems. Petite Chateau could probably have a rough crowd at night also, although I have only been there during the day time and had a fine time. During the day time, nothing to worry about at any of the clubs.

-How do I say no to one chica, then leave with her friend 5 minutes later without guilt or drama occurring?

As you discovered, being a gentleman helps a lot. Read my posting chica spanish for beginners and the ones it links to, and learn to say "no, por favor". I just started this hobby in Sept 2005, so you can go back and read all of my posts in this thread to see what I learned. Saying no thanks was the hardest. There is never any drama when you say no - tell her she is very beautiful, but you are looking for a particular chica (tu es muy hermosa, pero me gusta chica particular).

The part I am working on now is how to say no to the girl the next day, after a good session with her the day before. If you are a good customer: clean, attentive to her, not rough, tip well, then she will try to claim you as her own and act jealous if you go with other chicas. It is very hard to tell this apparently adoring creature that you prefer to sample a new chica today. I try to keep in mind that she will be adoring another guy right after me!

In the beginning, I just used the coward's approach: I went to a different brothel (this is not foolproof, because there is a chica tom-tom between the clubs). I have recently tried laughing at the first sign of possessiveness and saying that I am a bad boy who cannot resist a new chica! Perhaps some other members can suggest other ideas. In any case, always aknowledge the chicas that you know with a kiss on the cheek (unless they are working on a client), even if you are going with another.

-What is the average price for taking one home for an all-nighter?.....and is this practice allowed at all the clubs?

Don't know. At Carolina there is a bar fine to pay the bartender (I think it is $35, but ask the bartender), then you negotiate with the girl. She will ask for $200, but that is too much. Especially if you have a luxury villa and treat her right. I would offer $80 to the girl and settle for $100-$120. Keep in mind that they are stuck in their little room at the brothel with no TV and no break from their job for 3 months. You have a luxury bathroom to offer, a comfortable bed, a nice breakfast, swimming pool or beach, sunshine, etc. She is giving up client income for the night, but on a week night, that may not be too many $.

-Can you take 2 girls home?

Of course, this is St Maarten! But I haven't tried it. I might worry about managing two chicas for an entire night. Why not try 2 chicas at the club first.

-I want at least one of you to rank your top-3 clubs, and give explanations.

The answer to this question is in this thread if you read all the postings, but here is my personal summary. Keep in mind that I visit only during the day time, with rare exceptions:

#1. Carolina. Beautiful sexy girls from Columbia. The fewest hard-core aggresive clock watchers here. Also, because it is not as popular with the cruise ship crews (yet) and some girls do not share rooms (this month!), the sessions are less rushed. Almost no black girls since Sept.

#2. Seamans. Beautiful sexy girls from Columbia, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Mexico and perhaps elsewhere. Time pressure when there are many cruise ships in the harbor. A few black girls.

#3. Defiance. Some beautiful sexy girls from Dominican Republic and Columbia. More black girls from both countries, one of whom has been my best find so far. No cruise crew. Fewer tourists.

FYI: An important piece of advice for anyone interested in visiting these places (especially if you take her back to your room): be respectful and act like a gentleman. They aren't used to being treated like a lady, and I can guarantee you that it will make all the difference in how well she serves you. Passion triggers greater sex than any amount of money ever could.

I agree with this 100%. The chicas are far from home, have a shitty job, and have to put up with some foul, aggressive, mean clients! Show some respect, try to speak Spanish no matter how limited, tell them how beautiful they are, and how beautiful their mother must be! You will be well rewarded.

-zing

[Scott D]

I was previously in St. Maarten on vacation with a few friends. However, we attended a brothel and I am unsure what the name of the place was. I was wondering if you guys can help me? We went there late at night with another group of people whom we followed. Here is the description of the place:

This place is on the same road as Seaman's Club. If you are driving north towards Oyster Bay, the Seaman's club is on the left. This place that I am referreing to is on the right side of the road with a dirt parking lot on the left side. I would say it is just about on the border between the dutch and french side. The building looked painted white. When you enter the place there are a lot of steps to go up into the bar and the place looked relatively old and beat up. Once inside, there is a small bar to order drinks which is relatively tall and wide. It makes it kind of hard to order drinks. There is also another room with a pool table. The girls take you outside of the bar and up a few more steps where there is a guy with keys standing in front of a gated entry. Any help would be appreciated?

Thanks

[Scott D]

I was previously at a brothel on the dutch side as i followed some friends. However, i am unsure of the name of the place because i didn't see any signs upon entering, so i am asking you guys for some help!!! Here's the description. It is on the same road as the Seaman's club,(left side of road) just north of it though. This place is on the right side with a dirt parking lot on the left side of the road. There are several stairs to enter the place and when inside, the bar is rather tall and wide, you can barely reach over it. There is also a pool table in a separate room. The rooms for the girls are outside of the actual bar and up more stairs behind a gated door. A man is standing there with keys. The building looked painted white. The bathroom for the bar is outside of the club with a big metal door. Any Help PLEASE?

[Infinity]

This post is slightly off topic – but I felt all of you were best prepared to answer it.

We have discussed the majority of the clubs on St. Maarten recently. Does anyone know how one would go about arranging for a gal – assumidly from Colombia, DR, or Venezuela to live with you for a month? I would be interested in a live in ‘maid’.

I know. I’m one of those guys that always eats all of his peas before he moves to the next thing on the plate – rather than sampling a little of everything.

On another note – I seem to fall for the Venezuelan women that I meet in St. Maarten. The majority seem to be from Cali, Colombia or Punta Cana, DR lately. Anyone know of any working Venezuelan girls at the moment?

I wanted to thank Pogostick for replying. I tossed an email to Selinas and their quoted price for a night was up to $250. Probably the normal busy season price boost as the Maho seems to have doubled its rates as well. Pogostick were you able to select the girl you were seeing – or have any input in your selection?

Based off of Zing23s report I met up with Viviana at Carolinas. She is a tall creamy coffee colored skin girl with long luxurious black hair. She had a quick smile and quickly singled me out once I entered. I was not surprised when she introduced herself as Viviana. A very enjoyable girl to have met.

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[Bachlur]

Since this is my first written entry, I figured I should say that I'm a monger wannabe. Every one of you appears to know how this game works, and you each appear to play it very well. I recently inherited a very luxurious villa near Oyster Pond. I first visited St Maarten at the end of September 2005 when my relative died, and I acquired the villa. I went out looking for girls on the first night, hooked up, and regrettably ended up spending the entire week with the first girl that approached me at the Seaman's Club ....but I wanted so much more. We spent the entire week just pounding-away. I really wanted to cruise over to Casa Blanca, but the people in the parking lot looked me up and down like predators, which was reason enough for me to get back in my car and look elsewhere. I was pissed off too because I heard that Casa was the shit. I guess what it comes down to are several questions:

-Do I have to worry about guys eyeballing me and my car when I pull-up?

-How do I say no to one chica, then leave with her friend 5 minutes later without guilt or drama occurring?

-What is the average price for taking one home for an all-nighter?.....and is this practice allowed at all the clubs?

-Can you take 2 girls home?

-I want at least one of you to rank your top-3 clubs, and give explanations.

I plan on returning to the island in April and can't wait, but this time I wanna go back with a game-plan.

As far as the blood testing goes, at least at the Seaman's club, they test every Friday morning, and they supposedly test for EVERYTHING.

Anyway, I hope to be a more frequent contributor to this forum, and I hope to learn more from all of you.

FYI: An important piece of advice for anyone interested in visiting these places (especially if you take her back to your room): be respectful and act like a gentleman. They aren't used to being treated like a lady, and I can guarantee you that it will make all the difference in how well she serves you. Passion triggers greater sex than any amount of money ever could.

[Zing23]

Continuing the saga of the three Valentinas at Carolina brothel: you will recall that I had a session with the 2nd of 3 chicas named Valentina when I couldn't repeat with #1.

Well in subsequent visits I got enamored of Viviana and Valentina #2 got mad at me. But I always talked to Valentina #3 and started to appreciate her more and more. Last visit, as I arrived Viviana was going off in a big SUV with some guys and another chica, so I ended up with Valetina #3 (from Bogota like #2).

Valentina is not a typical latina: taller, long blonde hair, natural I think since her eyebrows are pale blond and her skin is pale as well. Incredible natural breasts. Very deep and active DFK. Long DATY and BBBJ. Then she asks, do you want me to **** you or you to **** me? I chose to hop aboard and she was a very exciting and active partner.

Actually, she was the best session of the 3 valentinas. I think there is a lesson here somewhere.

-zing

[Routard]

Dear sailors and other silent readers,

It is OK to use my tricks, but then please follow my advice completely:

If she uses any word like "fucky...fucky", just correct her and reply you want GFE:"No quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer el amor". This is my best advise. Never bargain the price, it is an offense to her, but instead ask for the best service.

[PogoStick]

Great information in all of your recent posts. I'm frequently in St. Martin. I'd be interested in more information on Selina's if anyone had it.

Selina bills itself as a swingers club. Recently a group in St Maarten has been having a few themed parties there. You can usually find out about the parties on orientbeach.com personals forum.

I have been there once. I had contacted them about parties and was told that they could arrange a 1 on 1 party for me for $150 all inclusive. It includes a companion, drinks and you can spend the night (until 6am). I was told that the companion was totally voluntary and expected no tip. The $150 was for the house and drinks.

I was picked up at my hotel (travel inn in Simpson Bay) and taken to a beautiful villa not far from the hotel. It had an awesome view. There I met my date for the evening, a dark skinned girl from Santo Domingo. She was perfectly fluent in english.

She was dressed in a sexy evening dress. We had a bottle of good french red wine and talked and danced for a bit. Then we retired to the bedroom. She was quite lovely and VERY enthusiastic. There were toys available as well as massage oils, condoms etc.

We played and napped all night long. Mulitple shots on goal and I came in all possible orifices. Bareback at all times except for the backdoor fun. In the morning she made coffee and breakfast and then I got a ride back to the hotel.

Overall it was a very good experience. The girl was about 7 on looks, 9 on body and 10 on enthusiasm. It was really more like a good first date than anything else. No tip was asked for and I feel she would have been insulted had I offered.

I will probably try it again at some point but lately my focus has been on cruising the casas and getting 4 girls for the same prices as Selinas. I like the variety and the hunt. But Selinas was certainly worth the money.

pogo

[Chris H]

Most cruise ships do have internet, so I would not be surpised if they do prepare theirselves for the girls in all the islands that they visit. that is how I knew what to expect in St.maarten myself.

Does anyone have any info on renting condos or apartments for a couple of days on the island? Let me know if you know anything that can help.

Chris H

[Zing23]

Great information in all of your recent posts. I'm frequently in St. Martin. I'd be interested in more information on Selina's if anyone had it.

I have never heard of Selina's, but will look around. What do you think it is?

BTW. Alejandre at Seamans told me that the filipino and chinese crew from the cruise ships only want to pay $30 (they are on a budget), but then they ask for "amor", not just "fucky fucky".

The idea of asking for amor to get GFE comes right from this thread of the ISG. Her response: if you insist on negotiating the chica down to her bottom price, don't expect a GFE with BBBJ that goes over the standard 20-25 minute time limit.

Do the cruise ships have internet access for the crew? Are they reading ISG to prepare for their visits to St Maarten?

-zing

[Sexcruiser06]

Had a nice 2 hour session with Alejandre at Seamans - room 20.

I mentioned that I had come by at 11am and there were no chicas in the bar, so I went elsewhere for my first session. She told me that during the day time if you want to visit a particular chica and you know her room number, you can just walk back to the rooms and knock on the door. (At night when it is busier, they have a guard on the entrance and you must go with a chica). I have walked back to rooms during the day at Defiance also (pronounced "dee-fi-ya" by the chicas). And at Carolina the door to the "hotel" is now always open during the day - it used by locked with a numeric keypad before.

Spanish lesson for today: cuarto = room. noches = night.

Just wanted to add our thanks for your help on this. We are looking forward to a fun time!

[Infinity]

Zing23,

Great information in all of your recent posts. I'm frequently in St. Martin. I'd be interested in more information on Selina's if anyone had it.

[Jan Chris]

Hello mongers,

I'd like to stay in a girl friendly hotel.

On the list given by the Routard, Captain Oliver seems to be rather cheap followed by Holland House.

Do you know whether they allow girls?

In any case, do you have an advice?

[Zing23]

Had a nice 2 hour session with Alejandre at Seamans - room 20.

I mentioned that I had come by at 11am and there were no chicas in the bar, so I went elsewhere for my first session. She told me that during the day time if you want to visit a particular chica and you know her room number, you can just walk back to the rooms and knock on the door. (At night when it is busier, they have a guard on the entrance and you must go with a chica). I have walked back to rooms during the day at Defiance also (pronounced "dee-fi-ya" by the chicas). And at Carolina the door to the "hotel" is now always open during the day - it used by locked with a numeric keypad before.

Spanish lesson for today: cuarto = room. noches = night.

[Zing23]

We both greatly appreciate your response. Am I reading correctly in this thread that the standard time in the room is 20 min for $40? Thanks!

the "standard time" for $40 is somewhat flexible, but if you go over 30 minutes some small extra fees will be incurred. For example, at Carolina you pay $3 to use the room for about 25 minutes, plus time to shower, cleanup, etc. If you stay for an hour, the bar expects another $3. The girl is usually happy with another $30. At Seamans the girl pays for the room herself by the day and hopefully earns that back from the clients. My last visit I stayed one hour with a chica at Carolina and another stay for an hour with a chica at Seamans. I paid each $70 and they were happy.

BTW. The $40 "standard" is also negotiable - when I first started visiting the brothels I experimented with offering $30 and was quite often accepted, especially if there was only 1 cruise ship in the harbor!