St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Regulr Travlr]

Grand Pollo and Routard,

Thank you very much for your language guides. They should find a home somewhere else on this forum where more people will get to them.

I am planning a trip to spanish speaking countries in the fall and this will be added to my study guide.

Traveller

[Grand Pollo]

There are many mistakes in the Spanish for a guidebook for rookies and since we want to educate mongers here are the proper ways to say this, (see corrections in parenthesis)

Remember nouns and adjectives are feminine for women, querer "to want" is coarse vs. to like something (I'd like a Coke is nicer than I want a Coke). Learn how to use gustar. This guide with corrections is still useful.

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She will insist asking why: "Porque?". (por que? - porque is because)

If she insists by you don't want girls? "No quiro (quieres or quiere for you, quiero is I) Chicas?" answer this time you want a girl, but a girl in particular: "Quiero una chica, pero une (una - female) chica (no en) particular" (or especial).

Take a beer at the bar by asking: "Quiro (quiero) una cerbeza" or if you prefer Coca Cola "Quiero una Coca Cola". Ask the price "Cuanto es (cuanto cuesta or cuanto vale) ?".

(Note "quiero" is an abrupt way to ask for someting, use Gustaria instead -gustaria una coca cola.)

Have a look around, and as usual the most beautiful girls will not approach you. Do it yourself with this magical sentence:"Olah (Hola) chica!". If you recognize her from the last time, say you are happy to see her again: "Me alegro (alegre -to me is pleasing) de verte".


How old are you "Cuanto anos (años - with a "nasal n sound" since anos asks how many anuses do you have) tienes?"

Your eyes turn me crazy "Tus oyos (ojos - pronounced ohos) me vuelven loco" (Better to say Tus ojos me hacen loco - make me loco vs. return to me)

You are the most beautiful girl here "Eres la chica mas guapa de aqui" ( la mayor is the best, mas is more without a comparitive. This says you are the more pretty of here - Say eres la mayor bonita que todas otras chicas aqui - you are the most beautiful girl here).

I like your smile "Me gusta to (tu) sonrisa"
I like your perfume "Quiero (Me gusta) tu perfume" - (This says I want your perfume - you want to say I like your perfume).

You have a wonderful body "Tienes un cuerpo bonito" (cuerpa bonita for feminine adjectives and nouns - unless she is a man)

What a nice hair "Que pelo!" (This is just what hair! which could be insulting as it is often odd enough looking - Que pelo bonita! - what pretty hair)

Try to become more personal, asking if her parents are in Colombia "Tus padres viven en Columbia" (?), do you have children "Tienes hijos" (?), do you have brother and sisters "tengas (Tienes - tengas is subjunctive not indicative) hermanos y hermanas?"

Say that it is not easy working here and having her children there "No es facil trabajar aqui y (con - with, not y - and) tus hijos en Colombia".

Ask her if she wants to drink anything :"Quieres beber (tomar)( is used for beverages) algo".

After a while, she will bring you back to business and ask you to go to the room. She will usually give you the price. Els you may ask "Cuanto es (Cuanto cuesta or vale)?"

GFE:"No quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer el (no el) amor".

"Puedo tomar una ducha?" (Puedo ducharme?) and add that it will be nicer for her "Es mas agradable para ti tambien". (Try Quiero que vengas en la ducha conmigo por favor - I want you to come in the shower with me)

If you want to ask her for a BJ, ask her "Puedes chupparme" (Chuparme, and this asks if she can - say quiero que me chupes _ iwant you to suck me - you need the subjunctive)

If you feel she is wet enough, you can try all your favorite positions. The doggy style is "Perrito", if you want her to come on you ask "Puedes venir arriba" (Many Latinas use terminar which means to finish, for this, not venir, which means come to us and not always to them. I am not sure she can come on you - of you want to come on her just come on her and don't bother asking.)

[Zing23]

The legal brothels in St Maarten are never mentioned in the tourist literature and seldom mentioned in the newspaper.

Recently a girl was robbed at the Seaman's Club and it made it into the Daily Herald newspaper. Here is the online link

http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/d.../exotic75.html

In case the link doesn't work, here is the story:

Man steals over US $1,000
from exotic dancer’s purse

PHILIPSBURG--Police are investigating an incident in which a man who had gone to Seamen’s Club in Sucker Garden entered the room of one of the exotic dancers and stole more than US $1,000 from her purse while she was in the bathroom.

Police spokesman Inspector Johan “Janchi” Leonard said the incident had occurred around 4:00pm Thursday. He said the victim had told police the suspect had fled the scene in a waiting vehicle before security could catch him.

It appears that the man had made a special arrangement with the dancer, A.A.G. (30) of Colombia, for which he was expected to make payments. He entered the dancer’s room and removed US $1,000 and 300 euros she had in a black purse in the room.

When she exited the bathroom, the suspect had already left the room. She allegedly saw the purse was on the ground and ran out to stop the suspect after she saw that it was empty, but was too late.

She reported the matter to police that same day and detectives have been out in search of the suspect.

[Routard]

Latinas are sexy, sensual, passionate and sensitive. That's why the experience you will get with a chica depends largely of the chemistry you will be able to build up with her. Speaking Spanish is mandatory, else you will probably be disappointed. If you don't speak Spanish, find hereafter a usefull "phrasebook".

You enter the club, and usually the less beautifull girls will come approach before you got the time to look around with a clear "Fucky fucky". Even if she is an ugly barrakuda, never be rude with a girl offering you actually sex! Decline politely but firmly: "No, gracias". She will usually insist, so answer you want to rest before: "Qiero descansarme". She will insist asking why: "Porque?". Answer because you are tired "Porque estoy cansado". If she insists by you don't want girls? "No quiro Chicas?" answer this time you want a girl, but a girl in particular: "Quiero una chica, pero une chica en particular". This is usually very effective.

Take a beer at the bar by asking: "Quiro una cerbeza" or if you prefer Coca Cola "Quiero una Coca Cola". Ask the price "Cuanto es?". Please at least try to learn from a phrasebook to count till 100. You will need this everytime.

Have a look around, and as usual the most beautiful girls will not approach you. Do it yourself with this magical sentence:"Olah chica!". If you recognize her from the last time, say you are happy to see her again: "Me alegro de verte".

If it is the first time start the usual introducting questions. What's you're name: "Como te llamas?" My name is..."Me llamo...", How old are you "Cuanto anos tienes?" I'm ... "Tengo..anos" Again you need to count till 100 (well I hope to less). Where do you come from :" De Donde eres?" She will usually reply she is from Colombia "Soy de Colombia" and you will answer "Soy de ...".

Try to compliment her. I know, it sounds bullshit to you, but believe me any woman in world, even SW love to hear compliments. If it looks difficult to you, just imagine that everytime you give a compliment, her pussy is getting wet. Do it before, during and even after sex, unless you are just looking for quick sex. I'm presuming here that you are looking for GFE sex.

Your eyes turn me crazy "Tus oyos me vuelven loco"
You are the most beautiful girl here "Eres la chica mas guapa de aqui" At least I hope this is true, if you find another girl more beautiful, then go to see her.
I like your smile "Me gusta to sonrisa"
I like your perfume "Quiero tu perfume"
You have a wonderful body "Tienes un cuerpo bonito"
What a nice hair "Que pelo!"

Try to become more personal, asking if her parents are in Colombia "Tus padres viven en Columbia", do you have children "Tienes hijos", do you have brother and sisters "tengas hermanos y hermanas?" are you married "Eres Casada?" She or you willl answer you have one boy and one girl "Tengo un hijo y un hija", you are married "estoy casado"

Don't make it like a police investigation at that point you need to be sensitive and have compation. Say that it is not easy working here and having her children there "No es facil trabajar aqui y tus hijos en Colombia".

At that time, the girl wil probably start to speak freely and your job is to listen. No matter if you don't understand everything, just look interested to what she is telling you and look her straight in her eyes, while you touch her very lightly any part of her body but a sexual zone.

Ask her if she wants to drink anything :"Quieres beber algo". She will receive a small tip for this from the bar, at least she will not get the impression to lose time and money while discussing with you.

Try to learn by heart a very small story about yourself, your country, something about her country, no matter what. It will help you to fill the blanks. If you have no Spanish sentences left anymore, and she doesn't help you more by speaking herself, use the bodylanguage: smile, caress her hairs and so on.

After a while, she will bring you back to business and ask you to go to the room. She will usually give you the price. Els you may ask "Cuanto es?" If she uses any word like "fucky...fucky", just correct her and reply you want GFE:"No quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer el amor". Even if she looks surprised, or finds it funny, she will consider it on another way. You made it clear you didn't come only for a quick fuck like the usual customers, you want more. This is my best advise. Never bargain the price, it is an offense to her, but instead ask for the best service. Even if she is not impressed about the effort you made to be nice to her which I doubt, at least she will understand that she might earn more money if she gives the best of her.

Once in the room pay the asked price (once again, I hoped you have learned to count Spanish in order to avoid any problem at that point) and undress. At that point, if you expect GFE, I hope you took care to take a shower and have good breath. Else, you might ask her before if you can ask her bathroom (it is not standard, but they never refused it to me). "Puedo tomar una ducha?" and add that it will be nicer for her "Es mas agradable para ti tambien".

When she is undressed, you defenitly have to give again a compliment."Que maravillosa!" as it is the most intimate moment.

Start smooth prelimenaries, get sometimes closer to her mouth, and as soon as you feel she will allow it, start to kiss. Again, this is not standard, but they never refused it to me. Look at her in touch her as if she is very pressious. Never enter your finger in her pussy, before you are sure it is wet. It might hurt her, and she will put lub.

Don't let her at any time put lub, don't let her also put you directly a condom. Tell her you want to go smoothly. "Suavamente, tenemos tiempo".

Once you're ready for intercourse, let her put you the condom. Again don't let her put any lub. If she is worried about it, get your face closer to her pussy. If everything smells OK, you lick her pussy. Else, spit on your finger and gently make her pussy wet. At that point you can start to stimulate also her clitoris.

If you want to ask her for a BJ, ask her "Puedes chupparme"

If you feel she is confortable enough, you can start intercourse on the missionary position. This will aloow you to controll the most sensitive part, the beginning. start very smoothly, as she needs to get wet by herself.

If you feel she is wet enough, you can try all your favorite positions. The doggy style is "Perrito", if you want her to come on you ask "Puedes venir arriba". Take care all the time that she is also confortable and that she also enjoys it. Don't forget to compliment her sometimes, even small words like "Rica!" or "Me gusta mucho". Be sensitive and ask her also : "Te gusta?".

With all these efforts, you have probably reached your goal and you are having GFE. The rest is up to you.

[Routard]

Payed again a visit to Casablanca, as it is the only one that remains open late at night. Again, my overal impression was rather bad, like my previous reports. Yet for the first time, I noticed an 8 rated girl in Casablanca. She was the only Colombiana, as all others where Dominicanas. She was petite, very light skinned. I tried to get some chemistry with her, but she was quite agressive, like all the others from Casablanca.

As I never tried before any girl in Casablanca, decided to make a try anyway. I discovered how things go in Casablanca when going to the room. You have to pay 45$ or 45€ (it's better to pay in dollar of course) through a small window, before you are allowed to enter the bedroom area with the girl. Rooms are airconditionned, have a bathroom and are rather clean. The sex was nothing to write home about it. Will not come back, and skip to my favorite Seamens Club.

[Routard]

Was once again in Sint Maarten. I wrote previously very positive reports about Seamen's Club. Well, this time I was disappointed about the line up. the average level had decreased to 4-7. Yes, it may be hit and miss, as the girls change very 3 month.

I stayed for a while, and discovered finally an 8 level (I will not go beyond that level anymore). She was a petite 23 years old Columbiana, long hair and an incredible body. I started to chat with her, there was a good chemistry, and after a while went to the room. When she udressed, I discovered a 9+ body. Incredible, 9+ because she admitted that her C breast was not natural. Else it would have been a 10! She had a very soft light coloured and nice smelling skin, very firm well curved body.

I started to kiss her (this is usually not standard, but if chemistry is OK, they never refused to me). After some hassless preleminaries, she wanted to put some lub. I stopped her, saying I would act very gentle and started to wet her with my tongue. Yes, this was quite risky in such place, but I noticed before she had a nice smell. And her pussy tasted OK. This made her getting very horny. I started intercourse very softly, and indeed she was very narrow. I continued slowly untill I felt that she was getting wet enough. We were both getting more and more horny, and changed several times our position. I finiched on doggy-style.

Yes, this was again a very good session, even if my overall impression about Seaman's Club is not as good as before.

During this last visit, I noticed a white lady coming out of the office, the kind of one you won't expect in such place. One of the chicas explained me that she is the manager in charge (the owner itself is a guy from St Maarten, but you will never see him there). She takes great care about the chicas. This explains may be why the atmosphere is much more relaxed here than in the other clubs.

[Absolut]

first trip also to St. Maarten Dutch side.

visited Seamans club and was disappointed. trashy hell hole bar like in Mexico.

continued up the hill on the same road and visited the girls at the large compound, I think it was Defiance. Met a nice cutie from Colombia and a few other skanks. Did the Colombian. Was the highlight of the trip.

Drove past Sunset but it looked too disgusting to go in.

Overall the prices are quite high on the island for hotel, food, entertainment, due to all the time share and casinos.

Not a good place for mongering.

If you speak spanish and want cute Colombian girls, I recomment Cartagena. Only a 2 1/2 hour flight from Miami and alot cheaper.

Npaul, Seamans Club was initially setup to cater to Chinese fishermen who had a 2 weeks break on the Island after spending 3 to 4 months at sea.

Now with the huge amount of Cruise ships visiting the Island this place has been turned into the watering hole of the crewmembers of these ships.

It is obvious that these guys do not have alot of time to spend on shore and therefore do not require 5 star accomodations when busting a nut.

Why didn't you take one of the girls back to your hotel? It is a known fact that you will find the best girls in the Seamans Club.

As for the other places, they cater more to the locals and stay-over tourists who obviously require better accomodations. ( An exeption would be Sunset Bar)

[Ngp477]

first trip also to St. Maarten Dutch side.

visited Seamans club and was disappointed. trashy hell hole bar like in Mexico.

continued up the hill on the same road and visited the girls at the large compound, I think it was Defiance. Met a nice cutie from Colombia and a few other skanks. Did the Colombian. Was the highlight of the trip.

Drove past Sunset but it looked too disgusting to go in.

Overall the prices are quite high on the island for hotel, food, entertainment, due to all the time share and casinos.

Not a good place for mongering.

If you speak spanish and want cute Colombian girls, I recomment Cartagena. Only a 2 1/2 hour flight from Miami and alot cheaper.

[225mmk]

Nice Post Hardbarg. I agree with all of your assessments. The Princess Casino has Craps too, but doesn't seem to get the crowd and I prefer Casion Royale as well. Last year was my year to really check out the brothel situation and look forward to my annual trip next October.

[Hardbarg]

Suckergarden - it was a dark and stormy night.

What a great name for a brothel district. Someone had a real sense of humor. My first visit to these places was at night during a storm. I was having trouble just staying on the road, let alone finding anything. Fortunately, I had the descriptions of the area posted by El Putero. They were dead on accurate and precise. Even when I couldn’t see 50 ft in any direction, his instructions were so specific that I was able to find the places I was looking for, and some of them would have been difficult in daylight. Great work EP.

Le Petit. This place was in the middle of a shallow lake. I suppose it might be considered a road and parking lot by some. I came real close to getting stuck in the mud more than once. Worse, it wasn’t worth the trip. There weren’t many girls, and the best I saw was a 6, maybe. Only went once, no sale.

Seamans, Defiance-Kappers, Sunset Bar, Casablanca-Border Bar. These 4 places are all on the same road. I stopped in each a few times. I had expected holes-in-the-wall and was surprised at how large these places are. Casablanca is one of the largest brothels I’ve ever seen. While they are all certainly different, from a practical standpoint, I found 3 of them to be very similar. The one exception was the Sunset Bar. It was a bit smaller, with a somewhat limited selection. The one time I went in, I felt a little uncomfortable. Nothing obvious, but seemed more like a locals hangout. Nothing like that problem in the other places. Of course, ymmv. The girls at all the places seemed to be from Columbia or the Dom. Rep. Some English, but the more Spanish you know, the better. The pricing and services offered were pretty much the same. Was mostly quoted $45 for standard session, generally negotiable to $35. The ratio of attractive/unattractive seemed pretty similar. The number of chicas went from about 20 to 50 or 60. Each had shows of one kind or another. Each had a mix of locals and obvious tourists.

As above, the girls all seem to be recruited from off island. My impression was that this resulted in pretty hard core pros. The service was enjoyable, usually fun, but businesslike. Secretaries trying to supplement their income, first timers, semi-pros not likely to get recruited. If you are expecting more of a gfe it seems unlikely here.

Maho Bay - the other end of the island.

Platinum - Snooty strip joint, maybe 15-25 girls. $10 cover. Talked to girls from Romania, Czech Rep., Hungary, Russia. Far as I could tell all the girls in this place were from eastern Europe, all very attractive or better. Most spoke some English. Strip show was run like an assembly line, very stately and distant. Amazing contrast to the latina dancers at the brothels. Only thing quoted to me was $30 - 1 song private dance. Since I knew what was available 20 minutes away I passed, but there was no shortage of takers while I was there. I got the impression that a more complete rental could be available outside the club with some of the girls, but I doubt it would be a bargain.

Casino Royale. As far as I could see, this is the only casino on the island (there are many) that has a craps table. Therefore, the only one that deserves to be called a casino.

[IslandNick]

Most of the houses have a regular turn over. Girls get a 3 month visa, and arrive 2's & 3's. So there are allways new girls arriving, which is great if you live on the island.

Islandnick

[Joe71]

I'm in SXM now on business. I've had a chance to stop by both Seamans Club and Defiance/Kappers. Both were great. I met Angelique at Seamans and Joanna at D/K, their rates were $50 which was a bargain compared to US prices. Both places were pretty clean, Seamans was a little better. Both had a good selection of chicas, D/K was better. Drinks were cheap and the session was awesome in both cases.

I drove by Le Petite, forget it, not worth the effort.

Joe

[JohnLeo0349]

I may be heading to St Maartin in early Jan. When did the new girls arrive and are they going to be there in Jan?
JL

[Routard]

The white girls are also from Colombia. I agree, some are really light skinned, blond colored hair, you might think they are white. But they are are all latina's.

[225mmk]

I spent the last week of October in St. Maarten. After reading many of the reports Seaman's Club looked like my best bet because of the time of day I could play. I went twice both times around noon. Had a quick pickup both times. I found it a great experience. The girl both times were very hot and nice. Both times there was no negotiating on price. Great time and then settled up afterwards for $40.

I noticed when I was leaving the second time a decent number of white girls (4 or 5) from reports I didn't expect that and would have maybe taken a spin. Does anyone know the orgins of the white girls (Nick?)

I recommend to all!