St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Dr CoolHand]

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[DennisMP]

Planning a trip in June for a bachelor party. I would appreciate if someone can tell me what's the going rate for TLN or 4 hours of incall rate.

Thanks.

In my opinion your best bang for your buck is go to the club with your party. You'll be able to see all the girls available and if they know you're having a party will get the ball rolling with some stage dancing and lap dances. From there you or the bachelor can pick a favorite for however long a session he wants. My recommendation, buy the groom an hour long session with the hottest girl in the house. The rates are not going to vary with incall or outcall, you'll pay for whatever they would have expected to make staying in the club during the evening. ($300-$500) If they know you perhaps you get a deal at $300 but usually $300 is going to get you a chica that will not meet your best expectations.

I witnessed a bachelor party at Carolinas last Thursday that was absolutely off the wall. Half of the chicas were naked and dancing either on stage or in a circle of guys in front of the bar, dollar bills floated in the air for nearly an hour and the floors were littered with them. The girls told me they each ended up with about $400 after that. I'm not saying you have to go to the extent this group did however if you have a decent size crew and are willing to spend a few bucks celebrating with the groom you'll make something happen you will all talk about for a long time.

[James110]

Planning a trip in June for a bachelor party. I would appreciate if someone can tell me what's the going rate for TLN or 4 hours of incall rate.

Thanks.

[ElLoko35]

Its been a couple days of continued evenings at Carolinas where I've seen new faces every night I've stopped. Some really pretty girls with fantastic bodies combined with playful and happy attitudes. Regretting I was already committed to Johanna and Vanessa. This weekend I'll have the opportunity to pursue a few of these newbies so hopefully a good report on that to follow. The number of girls in Carolinas remains 20+ and they are all Colombians at the moment, lots of options even for the most discerning customer.

I stopped in Crystal Club last night for about 30 minutes to check it out. Were about 18 girls working, low key no pressure which is nice if you to relax for a bit. I'm going to say it was a 50/50 split, half of them were way too thick for my taste and honestly I would even screw them for free. The other half though were total opposites, beautiful girls with outstanding bodies. I didn't partake as this visit was solely for information gathering. In short don't write this place off your list they've come along ways to improving. Also the layout and seating is comfortable.

Bada Bing is always on my list of stops but haven't had opportunity to check it out this trip. Will try to get in there tonight if time permits.

Let me know your feedback from Bada Bing, from what I have read it seems a bit pricey compare to Crystals and Carolinas.

[GringoItaliano]

After finding a comfortable seat on one of the couches a cute looking Paisa casually came up from behind and started a friendly chat. The girl goes by the name of Jimena. Very nice girl and just looking at her one would wonder what she was doing in a place like this. After we spent quite a while chatting over drinks I decided to take her back and had a fantastic one hour session. Great service and very, very GFE. I probably will repeat.

The next night I thought I had the timing down a little better. I didn't arrive until about 10:00. Again my first stop was Crystals but, as it was the night before, not much going on. Maybe a couple more girls but still nothing that seemed that interesting. I was hoping to find a nice selection of Colombianas but nope. Once again, I crossed over to Carolinas. There were a few more guys and girls in the bar but it still seemed very quiet compared to previous visits. Before too long I was greeted, once again, by Jimena. I was really looking forward to trying someone different but it didn't take too much time with her before we went back to the room for another great session. While no complaints, it just didn't seem the same as the night before. Still very GFE, great action but maybe a bit more business-like.

I also pulled Ximena when I was at Carolina's in early April. Or, to be more precise, she pulled me. She is a very nice and sweet girl. As the other poster suggested, one would almost wonder what she is doing in this line of work. She was very GFE with me. She also had some incredible BBBJ skills, with a lot of swirling. She has more of a girl next door kind of face but an excellent body if you like ample tits & ass on a small frame. I would recommend her if you encounter her at Carolina's. I might have repeated with her if I had more time on SXM.

[DennisMP]

Its been a couple days of continued evenings at Carolinas where I've seen new faces every night I've stopped. Some really pretty girls with fantastic bodies combined with playful and happy attitudes. Regretting I was already committed to Johanna and Vanessa. This weekend I'll have the opportunity to pursue a few of these newbies so hopefully a good report on that to follow. The number of girls in Carolinas remains 20+ and they are all Colombians at the moment, lots of options even for the most discerning customer.

I stopped in Crystal Club last night for about 30 minutes to check it out. Were about 18 girls working, low key no pressure which is nice if you to relax for a bit. I'm going to say it was a 50/50 split, half of them were way too thick for my taste and honestly I would even screw them for free. The other half though were total opposites, beautiful girls with outstanding bodies. I didn't partake as this visit was solely for information gathering. In short don't write this place off your list they've come along ways to improving. Also the layout and seating is comfortable.

Bada Bing is always on my list of stops but haven't had opportunity to check it out this trip. Will try to get in there tonight if time permits.

[Ath Trainer]

So my friend tells me bada Bing is now all Colombian chicas, apparently the Dominican girls paperwork and visas are a lot more difficult to sort out. My friend said it's a lot better and that it's not constant harassment anymore. All they need to do is lower their prices now.

Defiance is still not open, will update when I hear something.

Thanks for the update. My best experiences have been Colombian. Hopefully, it doesn't effect numbers or quality.

[FunTimeSxm]

So my friend tells me bada Bing is now all Colombian chicas, apparently the Dominican girls paperwork and visas are a lot more difficult to sort out. My friend said it's a lot better and that it's not constant harassment anymore. All they need to do is lower their prices now.

Defiance is still not open, will update when I hear something.

[DennisMP]

Hola fellow mongers,

Thank god Carnivale is over as it really messed things up here. Between traffic and take outs pickings were slim everywhere. Got here Sunday and went to Carolinas that evening only 7 or 8 chicas were in house. I was quickly approached by the really cute petite Afro Colombian girl whose name I always forget but told her no thank you as previous session with her in March was a waste of time and money. I ended up with Marianna a taller slender plain Jane in appearance but had a great attitude and fun to talk with. Nothing outstanding to report with the session however I'll give her an A+ on oral skills. I rarely ask prior how much as $50 has been the norm here especially with newbies and girls like her who are at best a "7" . She wanted $70 for the session which I paid but told her $50 was my favorite number. Out of curiosity I asked her how much for TLN and she replied $500, I told her she was crazy. She was a $300 tops TLN in my opinion.

I went back to bar and hung out like I normally do to watch the activity. Had a few other chicas cozy up to me but I was nowhere near ready for another one but after an hour or so of persistence by one I'm pleased to report that I had one of best sessions ever with a chica Liseth a stereotypical Colombian with long wavy black hair, great body that looked even better naked, facial appearance I can only give 6+, and again really nice to talk with. Never judge a book by its cover!! This girl fucks like there is no tomorrow, DFK, CBJ, massage, no rush and the damage was a mere $50, honestly if she said $100 I wouldn't have even questioned it, LOL She's my recommendation anyone is here through June 15 when she leaves.

There are only 4 chicas currently there from March / prior (Johanna, Vanessa, the petite Afro Colombian, and one other Colombian who won't give me the time of day because she knows I have at least one novia still there LOL) These 4 are out the door mid June as well.

Monday night a Cali Colombian named Catalina of average looks but a rockin body persuaded me to the back and I was again pleasantly surprised with the service. Got hit for $70 again so I'm going to have to start asking prior to and keep them on $50 or we're going to see $70 be the norm from now on!

One thing I want to add, I always tip the desk when paying the $5 multa, it keeps them from watching the clock and you won't get a knock at the door after 30 minutes and the chica typically isn't going to mind a few extra minutes either. YMMV on this if you're 1st timer and they don't know you.

[Barkey]

I'm a little late in getting in a report on my recent sort trip to SXM but thought I would put this out before the information gets too dated.

I arrived at the end of March and thanks to the several recent reports I was reassured that the casas (minus Hypnotique) were at least somewhat back to normal. Fortunately, for me I took a trip to Colombia last fall when a lot of closures / raids were happening on SXM but was concerned what it would be like now.

My first night out, after hearing good reviews, I was looking forward to seeing what Crystals had to offer. I like to start early so I arrived at about 8:30. In the past this was just about the time things were getting started but this night I must have been way too early. The club was just about empty. Maybe one or two guys at the bar and one chica who seemed to be not at all interested in working.

Quickly leaving I walked across to Carolinas expecting that the line-up would be good but again, not much to offer. I decided to grab a beer and wait it out. It had to get better, right? After finding a comfortable seat on one of the couches a cute looking Paisa casually came up from behind and started a friendly chat. The girl goes by the name of Jimena. Very nice girl and just looking at her one would wonder what she was doing in a place like this. After we spent quite a while chatting over drinks I decided to take her back and had a fantastic one hour session. Great service and very, very GFE. I probably will repeat.

The next night I thought I had the timing down a little better. I didn't arrive until about 10:00. Again my first stop was Crystals but, as it was the night before, not much going on. Maybe a couple more girls but still nothing that seemed that interesting. I was hoping to find a nice selection of Colombianas but nope. Once again, I crossed over to Carolinas. There were a few more guys and girls in the bar but it still seemed very quiet compared to previous visits. Before too long I was greeted, once again, by Jimena. I was really looking forward to trying someone different but it didn't take too much time with her before we went back to the room for another great session. While no complaints, it just didn't seem the same as the night before. Still very GFE, great action but maybe a bit more business-like.

After a night off to meet some civilian friends it was time to go on the hunt again. There was no parking available near Carolinas / Crystals or time to try something different. Having read a couple of decent reports on El Capitan, but remembering being "attacked" by three hungry Dominicana sharks in the parking lot a few years ago, I decided to put on the big boy pants and give it another try. There were a couple of cars in the parking lot and no gauntlet to run to get to the door. Things were looking good. But what about inside? Let's find out.

Just after I entered, I was greeted by an older, not great looking, kind of chunky Colombiana. I quickly passed but thought I would give the place a chance and sat down at one of their uncomfortable tables and at least enjoy a cheap beer. There were just a couple of local's hanging out drinking at the bar and a few girls. Very slow. Not much going on. Soon I was approached by another larger Colombiana and another darker girl that, I assume, was from the DR. Again, I passed and shortly thereafter over comes the girl who first greeted me. Not quite sure what I was going to be doing the rest of the night I thought I might at least have another beer and invited Tatiana a drink. We talked and talked and had a really great time in the bar. For whatever reason, good chemistry. While not my type at all. Older, chunkier and not the best-looking girl on the island (I guess kind of like me), I decided to take her back for a spin. As it turned out, the session was absolutely fantastic. Very, very, very GFE. A very enjoyable hour. We repeated a couple of times during my visit.

I remember that last spring I met another older, not picture perfect girl in Carolinas who offered just the greatest service. I regret not spending much more time with her. Maybe for us older guyd there is something to this older chica stuff. But I guess we all want the opportunity to bang the hottest chica on the planet when we go out hunting. Especially when we are paying.

One night I did go out very late to give Crystals another try. This time, maybe about midnight, the place was really going strong. Unfortunately, I think I was a little too spent to take on any more action but wanted to check things out. It was late on a Tuesday night and the bar was full. I talked to several doable girls, most from Colombia. I was kind of disappointed that I didn't have the energy to take up with one spinner. I think her name was Amy. Really, she was just my type. Slender, very pretty, and seemed to be very accommodating. After rejecting her (sigh) I walked across to Carolinas before calling it a night.

I guess I arrived sufficiently late and the bar also was very busy. I was approached by a couple of good looking chicas but was not ready for any action. Or so I thought. I kept eyeing another tall, slender dark haired girl. She was standing with a couple of guys but I guess they were not giving her the attention she wanted. Soon she came over and took a seat at the bar next to me. We chatted for a while and before too long, I started to find some energy. She was one that I didn't want to regret not taking back to the room. After a short chat, we agreed to go to the room but I think I needed a little more time to re-energize. I asked her if she wanted another drink and I ordered one more beer. That disappointed her and she started to get impatient. Glancing around the room. As soon as she said why don't you take your beer back with us, you can finish it there, I realized that the rush was on. Not a good sign. I told her so and we parted ways. I don't recall her name but just as well. She did mention that she was from "el capital". She didn't say Bogota if this might help identify her.

Damn. I missed out on two good looking ones in one evening. Oh well. I needed to rest anyway.

Maybe I don't stay up late enough at night but I did observe something at El Capitan that I had not seen before on SXM. It was late one night, and while I'the had all I could handle for the day I was hanging out with several of the (big) girls who were just sitting in the bar. We were having fun. Talking and sharing a few drinks. All of a sudden, a slim, dark girl jumped up at the other end of the bar and started dancing for a couple of the locals who also were just hanging out. The dancer seemed to have had quite a few drinks. It wasn't too long before her clothes were gone and she was putting on quite the erotic show for her fans. A couple of times she needed some help so she didn't land head first on the floor. On previous visits to SXM I had seen a few girls dancing on the stage at Hypnotique or Carolinas but never a full out, completely raunchy strip show. Who knows what else I miss out on?

Anyway, for those who may be arriving soon there can be some good hunting. While many of the girl possibly have just gone home or will soon be leaving, the casas are up and running. Maybe not the same vibe as before but still good.

Barkey.

[Mel365]

I NEVER pay upfront. To me that shows that the chicas are poor performers. This is my process worldwide not just in the Caribe and S America.

If they insist on $$ upfront I just head towards the door. This has only happened a few times and they have always stopped me and we went on with the session.

I believe that possibly the $$ upfront has to do with the age of the clients. Us old guys I guess look more affluent vs a local 25 year old.

In many countries, I've been advised to get the girls to accept payment after the sesson rather than up front since they might be more motivated to perform better service if they do not get their money at the beginning. Of course, in some places, everything must be paid up front if the venue itself handles all the payments.

What about the clubs in SXM? Are the girls usually able to be persuaded to accept payment afterwards?

[Barkey]

In many countries, I've been advised to get the girls to accept payment after the sesson rather than up front since they might be more motivated to perform better service if they do not get their money at the beginning. Of course, in some places, everything must be paid up front if the venue itself handles all the payments.

What about the clubs in SXM? Are the girls usually able to be persuaded to accept payment afterwards?

In SXM I believe it's pretty much the norm to pay afterwards. At least that's my experience. Usually only the casa fee is paid in advance.

Only one time. A few years ago, did a chica ask for payment up front. She also asked for more than the going rate. I should have known better. We did settle on what was then the normal rate plus a possible tip for good service. I left the cash on the dresser before the activities started and that was all. Service was crappy, no tip. Should have known.

I was there a few weeks ago and the going rate was still $50/30 minutes and $100/ hour. At least at Carolinas, Crystals and El Cap. The cashier did try to get away with a 20 minute limit one time at El Cap but that was quickly resolved. As with any other location just be clear with the girl of the terms before going to the room and there should be no surprises. If I find a girl in the bar that I like and seem to get along with I simply say to her "$50, no?" I think that makes it hard for her to ask for more showing that you know the pricing.

Have fun,

Barkey.

[Exoticspirit]

In many countries, I've been advised to get the girls to accept payment after the sesson rather than up front since they might be more motivated to perform better service if they do not get their money at the beginning. Of course, in some places, everything must be paid up front if the venue itself handles all the payments.

What about the clubs in SXM? Are the girls usually able to be persuaded to accept payment afterwards?

[Mel365]

In the past I have taken out chicas for days and even weeks. However they have to be superstars.

I developed a relationship with them over a number of visits and then tried TNL or even a meal between 4 and 7 first.

The club multas vary gretly from club to club. However I have paid $500- for 24 hours to the chicas and they have been hapy with that in high season and they usually invlude the multa with that $500-.

However if this is your first time to st maarten I would just stick to the clubs. Many chicas think dinner, possibly disco, some sex a few times during the night then a rush back to the club is a TNL. You really have to be clear as to what you expect before you take a chica out.

Thanks for the post, I was looking around and wasn't able to find anything to point me where was the famous Carolina spot. So you got me out of my mysery, LOL. Do you or anyone have an idea of how much would be to let's say take the girl out for a 24 HR period or half day.

[ElLoko35]

A lot faster, yes. Maybe only 10 mnts at night, while it usually takes 20- 30 mnts during daytime due to heavy traffic. Kindly note the roads can be surprisingly slippery when it's raining. Beware of bumpers, poorly marked ditches, pedestrians and stray dogs. Don't drink and drive.

The route is a piece of cake once you have done it a couple of times. But if you are a firsttimer on the island, I would suggest learning the route during daytime before trying at night (avoiding detours into noman's land). Buck On's vidoes in the ROD section gives an excellent introduction to the last part of your tour. http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1528978

Have fun!

Thanks for the post, I was looking around and wasn't able to find anything to point me where was the famous Carolina spot. So you got me out of my mysery, LOL. Do you or anyone have an idea of how much would be to let's say take the girl out for a 24 HR period or half day.