FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[ExpatLover]

The facility has both fixed and variable costs. And yes, the use of sauna and all other areas has a high maintenance cost as well as electricity cost and depreciation cost. In addition, it makes a difference if the club owns the real estate or not; if they own it there is the opportunity cost of money plus depreciation and if they don't then you have rental cost. Add service people cost which is super high, food cost is higher than you think as food planning had food waste cost and then remove taxes. They arr profitable, but not as much as you think. And, sharks is more profitable then the rest while Artemis has a monopoly in Berlin and is more profitable than all.

Once you break even with your fixed cost, margins are high. But most clubs struggle in mistbdays and then make up for it in weekends, holidays and parties. Hence, average revenue per day is not so high relatively. Cheers.

Most of those big clubs are washing machines, they belong to hell angels, motorcycle bands, . Probably no need to waste to much energy to understand the balance sheet or the P&L.

[Member #4636]

Has anyone had experience with this girl? Romanian, blonde hair, big tits.

[Member #4636]

LOL, unless it is a public company, the records of any business would be sealed to the general public. Now, where we talk about a shady business like this, with many potential book embellishments or off book adjustments, you have no chance of seeing their books. Even if you did, the doctored part of the books will not be unmeasurable. But, if you are a repeat customer with minimal IQ and market sizing skills, you can estimate their revenue with 5-10% SD. If you are a little more experienced, you can calculate the business margins quite easily, same SD applies. This business is not complicated to model.

I could talk for hours about economics but I guess we are hijacking the threat. I wish we could continue in private somehow this conversation. But just to know I am a repeated customer with alot of experience in numbers. LOL.

[Danny227]

Do you know if there is a link where someone can read their financial statements?

LOL, unless it is a public company, the records of any business would be sealed to the general public. Now, where we talk about a shady business like this, with many potential book embellishments or off book adjustments, you have no chance of seeing their books. Even if you did, the doctored part of the books will not be unmeasurable. But, if you are a repeat customer with minimal IQ and market sizing skills, you can estimate their revenue with 5-10% SD. If you are a little more experienced, you can calculate the business margins quite easily, same SD applies. This business is not complicated to model.

[Member #4636]

The facility has both fixed and variable costs. And yes, the use of sauna and all other areas has a high maintenance cost as well as electricity cost and depreciation cost. In addition, it makes a difference if the club owns the real estate or not; if they own it there is the opportunity cost of money plus depreciation and if they don't then you have rental cost. Add service people cost which is super high, food cost is higher than you think as food planning had food waste cost and then remove taxes. They arr profitable, but not as much as you think. And, sharks is more profitable then the rest while Artemis has a monopoly in Berlin and is more profitable than all.

Once you break even with your fixed cost, margins are high. But most clubs struggle in mistbdays and then make up for it in weekends, holidays and parties. Hence, average revenue per day is not so high relatively. Cheers.

Do you know if there is a link where someone can read their financial statements?

[Danny227]

Food, beverages, towels, robes, slippers. Sometimes free beer. Facilities like steam bath, sauna, garden, pool and most important. Rooms to fuck the girls. Would it be the same price if girls were dressed? Sure. Palace and Artemis are at the upper end of prices for entry, many clubs charge 50 EUR and below. World on every day before 1 pm, Oase every day before 4 pm, Sharks on two days per week, Mainhattan every day before 2 pm. Are they still making good money out of girls and clients? Yes they are.

The facility has both fixed and variable costs. And yes, the use of sauna and all other areas has a high maintenance cost as well as electricity cost and depreciation cost. In addition, it makes a difference if the club owns the real estate or not; if they own it there is the opportunity cost of money plus depreciation and if they don't then you have rental cost. Add service people cost which is super high, food cost is higher than you think as food planning had food waste cost and then remove taxes. They arr profitable, but not as much as you think. And, sharks is more profitable then the rest while Artemis has a monopoly in Berlin and is more profitable than all.

Once you break even with your fixed cost, margins are high. But most clubs struggle in mistbdays and then make up for it in weekends, holidays and parties. Hence, average revenue per day is not so high relatively. Cheers.

[Member #4636]

. Are they still making good money out of girls and clients? Yes they are.

I have no doubt about that, it is so obvious! I don't think they make turnover less than 10 k even on a bad day. Average 4 mil euro per year all cash!

[Rogue Nation]

This is a good point that sums it up about these clubs. Yes they do want to get their hand very deep in your pocket everybody there, the club and of course the girls. Just look at the prices! 70-80 euro for the entrance? What exactly do you pay for the entrance? The food would cost outside the club maybe 10 euro add another 5-6 euro for the cola type drinks which are free. What does the rest amount represent? Don't tell me the use of the sauna / swimming pool or the robe / towel LOL.

The rest amount is the ability to see pussies and boobs doing a parade in front of your eyes gentlemen! Do you think the entrance would be so high if the girls were dressed??

Food, beverages, towels, robes, slippers. Sometimes free beer. Facilities like steam bath, sauna, garden, pool and most important. Rooms to fuck the girls. Would it be the same price if girls were dressed? Sure. Palace and Artemis are at the upper end of prices for entry, many clubs charge 50 EUR and below. World on every day before 1 pm, Oase every day before 4 pm, Sharks on two days per week, Mainhattan every day before 2 pm. Are they still making good money out of girls and clients? Yes they are.

[Member #4636]

You are in the clubs to fuck the girls.

Not to get fucked.

This is a good point that sums it up about these clubs. Yes they do want to get their hand very deep in your pocket everybody there, the club and of course the girls. Just look at the prices! 70-80 euro for the entrance? What exactly do you pay for the entrance? The food would cost outside the club maybe 10 euro add another 5-6 euro for the cola type drinks which are free. What does the rest amount represent? Don't tell me the use of the sauna / swimming pool or the robe / towel LOL.

The rest amount is the ability to see pussies and boobs doing a parade in front of your eyes gentlemen! Do you think the entrance would be so high if the girls were dressed?

And now the girls. When I first went to a FKK (Artemis) I was so blown away I wanted to fuck everything that was moving. I wanted to touch every woman, chat with all of them, touch their bums while they were walking and I was taking them in doubles or 3 together in the room. I had a budget limit I promised not to exceed and in an hour I was in the cash machine getting more.

The girls know this because it is their business and they will do anything to grab more and more cash. Of course I took my lesson after first time, but each next time I went to Palace I felt I was losing the control again. So many stunning girls and you want them all in your plate. Not to mention that there is one girl in that club I would give all the money I have given so far just for one hour session. My bottom head is thinking about her all the time. So who is fucking who at the end of the day?

[Danny227]

You are in the clubs to fuck the girls.

Not to get fucked.

That depends on the guy and his habits, LOL.

[Member #4636]

Can you describe the last girl?

As said she is slim, not extremely tall, long blonde hair and lovely curves. You will find her sitting usually opposite the bar just in front of that swinging couche. She will probably approach you or just ask in the club where she is (you can ask Isabell she will help you). Last time I went she was on holidays but she is probably back. You can always call the club before and tell them which day you will be there and for which girl but this does not ensure she will be there.

[Danny227]

I have done CIM maybe 4 or 5 times with different girls in Palace. I have it as a must so yes even if I want to my budget starts from 100 e each time. LOL.

The problem with CIM with all girls in Palace is that they don't to it right or at least the way I want to. According to so many CIM I have done before with my GF and according to pornhub (LOL) a CIM means you shoot your load and you watch it while it goes inside the mouth and of course some drops from it. If a small load hits the face no big deal. With the girls in Palace they all got mad when my shooting didn't go directly all in mouth and ht them in an eye or a bit on the neck. Another girl kept doing the BJ while I was coming inside her mouth so I didn't see anything.

So excuse me the pleasure of CIM isn't that you enjoy watching the shooting? I don't want to pay a 50 e extra and see nothing. Do you have the same experience in other clubs?

What do you guys think?

I agree. Not crazy at all. My experience in Palace is different, especially with long sessions as it seems to be your habit too.

[Danny227]

The list is personal from my recent experience (more than 3 visits).

Isabell from Italy thin lady, very pleasant personality and a bomb in bed she will do everything to satisfy you. One day she is blonde one brunette.

Aliona from Ukraine, quite short thin, very pretty face and lovely smile I had perfect chemistry with her so don't touch her she is mine! LOL.

Mari from Germany, blonde, very tall, a dog tattoo on her right leg, she is like a model and her pussy is a piece of art! Very pleasant and polite lady excellent in GFE.

Monica from Russia is another very tall lady with very long legs, also very nice with men and polite, also excellent in GFE.

Karina from Romania has far the best body in the club, she is tall with curves and lovely blonde hair, you will feel you are with a top class escort..

Can you describe the last girl?

[ExpatLover]

The list is personal from my recent experience (more than 3 visits).

Isabell from Italy thin lady, very pleasant personality and a bomb in bed she will do everything to satisfy you. One day she is blonde one brunette.

Aliona from Ukraine, quite short thin, very pretty face and lovely smile I had perfect chemistry with her so don't touch her she is mine! LOL.

Mari from Germany, blonde, very tall, a dog tattoo on her right leg, she is like a model and her pussy is a piece of art! Very pleasant and polite lady excellent in GFE.

Monica from Russia is another very tall lady with very long legs, also very nice with men and polite, also excellent in GFE.

Karina from Romania has far the best body in the club, she is tall with curves and lovely blonde hair, you will feel you are with a top class escort.

Leah from Romania, very pretty girl, she likes jokes and is also very nice with men..

Thanks just Palace is a cheating club that I blacked listed in 2014 and I advise all the guy looking for great service to make a big turn around, tourist trap nothing less nothing more but some mongers like this.

[Aviator400]

The list is personal from my recent experience (more than 3 visits).

Hope above helps.

Yes it does.

Haven't been there in a couple of years.

Planning to go next month and appreciate the current information.