FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[Occultus]

Oh Occultus has risen from the ashes! Thanks for the reviews. I guess you must have fucked your way through 90% of Palace, when you start repeating sessions with girls you've done before? I remember you told me about your adventures with Marina and Jacqueline. Nice to hear you enjoyed them both. I would still do Rihanna over Jacqueline any day, but that's just me! When reading about your session with Angelina, I was initially a bit afraid you'd gone back into the Egyptian pyramid, with no reasonable exit! Could you just tell us why she wanted 150 E and not 100, was it due to COB? Strange that she didn't insist on getting extra paid for that one, like any "normal" Palace chick would do?

Angelina from Spain wanted 150, not 100, because she viewed kissing and COB as separate extras. So half and hour of time, plus COB, plus DFK / DATY, amount to 150 in her reckoning. But she accepted 100. She could not win the dispute anyway.

Yeah, it's problematic: I've fucked through so many girls there, that I'm now getting entangled with cliques (as in twosomes and 'why haven't you fucked my friend? ') and, in general, repeat-session issues.

By the way, overall the lineup at Palace was excellent this time. Many girls that were FKK-hot and many that were cover girl hot in the bright lights, as in 'Why are you working as a wh0re? ', though of course we know why, it's just an expression.

[Occultus]

Is there really a girl at Palace who goes by the name of She? Puts me in mind of an old movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059710/

AM

Hehe, no, maybe I should have clarified. I simply went too deep, figuratively, with one of the girls with whom I sessioned, let it get a bit too intimate. But I don't want to reveal which one, so as to dissuade mongers from purchasing her services, because she's really very good if you keep the proper boundaries. And I can't blame her for what she did to me, because I opened myself up to it. So 'She' is just an encryption, so to speak, of the name of a girl I've reviewed below, the name encrypted, because the details are not really suitable for a public board, so I'm just trying to describe the experience in generalities.

Also, I wrote 'She', because H. P. Lovecraft wrote a horror story called 'He'. So I just meant some archetype of the female sex, hence the tags describing her, i.e. as Eve, the Wh0re of Babylon (golden chalice), etc.

Thanks for the rec, I'll have to check that film out.

[Sucker17]

Angelina, Spain (brunette, fake boobs, fittest girl in the club, large perfect ass). Probably about age 30, self-admitted sports-freak. Speaks English with a Spanish (or perhaps Romanian) accent, but somehow it has a slight New York twang. Anyway, I felt like kissing her and licking, because I like her, though I shouldn't. To make this possible, I did an extra (came on her body) , O heresy. I enjoyed the session, until payday: she wanted €150, but I had already closed my valuables locker. I just explained why it was €100, and she just said, 'It's OK, it was a misunderstanding'. She could not refute my FKK jurisprudence! And as I said, the locker was already relocked, the wallet stowed away: this visual diminishes the shark's hopes.

Oh Occultus has risen from the ashes! Thanks for the reviews. I guess you must have fucked your way through 90% of Palace, when you start repeating sessions with girls you've done before? I remember you told me about your adventures with Marina and Jacqueline. Nice to hear you enjoyed them both. I would still do Rihanna over Jacqueline any day, but that's just me! When reading about your session with Angelina, I was initially a bit afraid you'd gone back into the Egyptian pyramid, with no reasonable exit! Could you just tell us why she wanted 150 E and not 100, was it due to COB? Strange that she didn't insist on getting extra paid for that one, like any "normal" Palace chick would do?

[Angus Magee]

She (sharp talons, snake on her shoulders, golden chalice, will offer you an apple).

S.

Is there really a girl at Palace who goes by the name of She? Puts me in mind of an old movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059710/

AM

[Occultus]

she (sharp talons, snake on her shoulders, golden chalice, will offer you an apple).

oh, almost forgot, there was one girl on the list below who snared me, trapped me, manipulated me, used me, bled me. i've never seen before such genius simulation of innocence, evil so expertly feigning innocence for its own ends. i experienced a shade of female darkness i had only heard about, but never known. yes, there are some wh0res who harbor sinister plans of absolute revenge against the male sex, and propitiate this lust with periodic sacrifices: stupid males deceived, flayed alive. i've never before seen malice so well-disguised, to well-planned, so brilliant, effortless. evil, calculating so precisely the power of a smile. evil, intuiting exactly what i want to hear, and singing it to me, as though she was mine. the wh0re wanting to extract not just money, but a proverbial pound of flesh.

usually, i would discount feminists' accounts of prostitutes as the victims of sexual abuse, women who are trapped in the past, and only know how to play the victim. a sort of stockholm syndrome. but this experience has forced me to reconsider. maybe she did get raped and has never gotten over it. maybe her torment is her passion, in that she revels in each proxy revenge against her 'father', but in sort of sylvia plath ('daddy') twisted way.

no, i'm painting the wrong colors. i think she's just fundamentally autoerotic. men are entirely optional sources of personal pleasure for her. a vibrator will do just fine. or even money, since erotic pleasures mean nothing to her now.

i met this girl at the palace. who is she? oh, you'll know if you delve too deep, journey too far. right when you think you've discovered the mask under the mask, there's another mask. you'll think she's an airhead, but she's in your head.

recommend? no. repeat? yes.

[Occultus]

Andrea, Colombia (brunette, metallic silver sash, large natural boobs, wider body). Andrea competes with Luana and Olga on the sheer physical pleasure scale. So as you can imagine, she has soft flesh. I don't know, I think our culture is totally fucked up in the exaltation of muscle over fat, excessively Apollonian conception of female beauty. Anyway, she's a fit young woman and she's soft to touch. Feeling her breasts was amazing, likewise fucking her from behind. She only does LFK for €50, as far as I can tell.

Recommend? Yes, while we were waiting for a room, I could seriously hardly wait to fuck her, I was seriously tempted to make blow me right then and there to the finish. Why? Some erections can be harder than others: with my hands on her, I've never felt so hard. Repeat? Obviously.

Andrea hangs out with the Latina clique. On busier nights, this means they turn over rooms to each other, rather than observing the 'first come, first serve' rule. Pun on that if you want.

Marisol, DR (black, blonde highlights, pretty face, wears excessive clothes for an FKK). She's hiding bodily imperfections, I shouldn't have bothered. And she asked the €50 or €100. Absolutely do not recommend, will never repeat. Based on the quality of her accessories, she surely has her regulars though.

About wearing excessive clothes: Joy now always wears a bra. I believe there is a conspiracy among the girls to turn Palace into a sauna club by 2014.

Astrid, Bulgaria (blonde, tan, large tattoo on back, dances on the pole, wide body). Nothing really new to say about her. I'm not so into her now, but that's just my timelines. No, no €50 kissing guarantee here.

Ana, Italy (large fake boobs, formerly had ample natural breasts, silicon just provides extra support, pale skin, not the nicest face, must be the nose). As you can see, the tits tempted me, but I was too tired to cum on them. She was annoyed to only get €50, when she thought she'd get €100, and the service was terrible overall. I was capable of ignoring it, but in the end, it compounded with my fatigue to decide me to end the session. Absolutely no recommend or repeat.

'Italy': not Italian, obviously, but doesn't look that Romanian either, maybe Bulgaria, not sure.

Speaking of noses, I'm sorry to say that Gina's nose is highly imperfect, there are certain ridges here and there. You'll notice if you look at her in profile.

[Occultus]

lisa, romania (tall, brunette, thin, wide butt, natural boobs). i've said enough about lisa already and unfortunately this time did not learn anything new. in general, the terser character of these reports is a reflection of the fact that this time, mongering was not really a transformative experience for me. i felt like i was repeating something i already did, which suggested to me the necessity of quitting the hobby. for indeed, i only pay for education, not for sex =)

recommend? yeah. repeat? maybe, but i only say maybe because i have so many open threads going with other palace girls. we need to discriminate eventually. so while her disposition is the best in the club, i'm not totally enamored of her looks.

we are cruel swine, aren't we? but perhaps for the best: this trip i had no qualms paying girls unequal sums for the same service. well, i had some qualms, but since i had had qualms before, i anticipated the emergence of guilt on the surface of my consciousness. so god was caught in the act, so to speak. for some reason, i just find it so much easier to suppress moral impulses, than the sexual. but they're both impulses, ya know.

saskia, deutschland (blah, blah). she's overrated, didn't enjoy it. too much business and false ideas of what other girls provide for what sums of money, and so on. i think the no repeat is mutual =)

olga, spain (brunette, very pretty, imploring face, large natural breasts she nonetheless enhanced, pale skin, slightly fat to be blunt). so yeah, initially i trusted my eye: 'oh, she's out of shape', i judged. naively, the moral is don't trust your eye. but the reality is, i was simply divided on the matter visually. actually, i wanted to fuck her, but since there were so many girls i was considered, i used her extra weight as an excuse to chop her off the list. i mean, it's not really bad at all: she does have some cellulite on her butt, but there are no rolls on her abs. anyway, i was attracted to her, but was resisting her for purely rational reasons, that is thoughts not based on any sexual instinct.

luckily, she approached me, and i was convinced. everything for €50 without any negotiations, everything natural, nothing forced. and she stayed the whole half hour, though she hoped i would stay for the next one. i said i would repeat instead. but we are swine. anyway, the fuck with her competes with that with luana on the physical pleasure scale. again, she has soft flesh. oh, if i recall, she's also a mother, early 30's. i really like the early 30's girls, they have that combination of beauty and service that's rare in the ingenues.

recommend? absolutely. repeat? yes, yes, definitely, and for longer time. if i ever go to palace again, and she's not there, i'll notice nothing her absence. nah, but i grant my romantic persona freedom of speech.

eileen, turkey (tanned, fit, fake, cleopatra eyelashes, makeup). definitely not a mother. what can i say? standard palace optickfick. better service for €100, but her body is simply too hot for any hostility to ruin the €50 cheapie. i don't mean to talk lightly of money: i mean 'cheapie' to her. for me, that is a considerable amount of money, however much i waste that quantity in the clubs. in other sections, when i say 'more money' as though it grows on trees, i really mean, on a shorter trip, because then you'll be able to spend liberally, knowing you won't be in the country for too long. well, i suppose, you could miss your flight and go broke, and then become a bum. it's summer, after all, the nights aren't too cold.

recommend? no, i don't, but her body recommends itself to you. repeat? yeah, maybe: of special note, she gives an excellent blowjob: a solid cim option imo. i mean if you enjoy cim, not to buy something you don't want to secure kissing.

oh, i did see her my last trip to palace, but i was too tired to take her. i think she was wondering what was wrong with me, since she was sitting next to me, yet i somehow resisted the temptation to grab her boobs and zimmer her. i was running on empty, but even then i was in deep water. well, i found her again, and resolved to redeem my regret.

[Occultus]

Brenda, Hungary (blonde, natural, green sash, very pretty face, looks so precious and delicate). I couldn't convince her to kiss, but I was close. In a competition where silicon boobs win negative marks, she'd take the prize, that is, for beauty. We connected, she wanted to provide it (kissing) , but kept to her principles. I told her, she really needn't be consistent from customer to customer. After all, I would never tell anyone that she kissed me for €50. It must have been the language barrier, yes.

Her sister Olympia, she said, is out of the business. Brenda does have a son, but this does not seem to have marred her physique as much as she imagines (hence the wide green sash). Recommend? I dunno. Repeat? Yeah, I would, with more cash and ready to spend more time.

Maggie, Bulgaria (brunnette, petite, but large fake boobs, speaks with her eyes, siren songs, typically wears pink spandex over her shoulders, neck, upper arms, and matching spandex on her lower legs). Though young. 24, Maggie is a mother and touches with that certain tenderness: when she wanted to turn it on. YMMV. Excellent kisser, but a bit excessive on the porno talk (but only in the situation when your dick seems to be refusing to cum). In the restaurant, she was telling me perverse fantasies of one of her friends, as though challenging me to satisfy them. I admit, this turned me on.

Recommend? Yeah, but she's only really good after multiple sessions. I wouldn't expect anything good for a one-and-done €50 expenditure. Repeat? Yeah, probably: I know her, she knows me.

Luana, Hungary (shapely natural body, supple, beautiful face, thin blonde hair, always wears black net outfit, perfect butt). I usually go for fake girls, but Luana's beauty liberates me from bad habits. Perhaps the most enjoyable fuck overall, even though she didn't kiss (she didn't upsell either, seem surprised that I wanted to kiss). What made the fucking itself superb was the softness of her body: she seems like a statue in terms of shape, but her body yields pleasantly to the touch. So contact with her while my dick was inside her, drove me crazy. Physical pleasure in the simplest act of sex (missionary) : off the charts.

In other words, Luana is nice to look at and to fuck. Sometimes the leaner girls disappoint the expectations of our eye, and being accustomed to porn, we forget the central role of touch in sex. Perhaps the blind are privileged in this regard.

Recommend? Yeah, if you don't care about kissing (don't think she kisses at all). Repeat? Yeah, she's not just FKK-hot, she's hot. And she has a feminine, obedient manner to her.

Cindy, Poland (tall, blonde, cold face, perfect tits which may be natural, wide soft but fit butt). I said 'cold face', but her body speaks for itself, so she can remain as businesslike as she wants. I opted for her normal session, rather than romantic for €100 with cum on her tits, though her tits were worth coming on, the consideration of securing kissing aside. Even with light, forced PSE, her body was simply too perfect to ruin the session.

Recommend? Yeah, but you know what you're getting into. Repeat? Should I? Maybe not. In a world without money? Yeah. In general, any resolution here will be severely challenged, once she's standing within one foot of me.

Sometimes we overthink sex. She's a hot blonde selling her body for €50 or €100. There's nothing to think about.

[Occultus]

Kelly, Senegal (Black, big fake boobs, huge butt, perhaps wears a wig). Even though Kelly is not Latin, she hangs out with the Caribbean clique, so that's the human cluster wherein you'll find her. I had never gone with her before for some reason, but the body speaks for itself, she has a pretty face and is also intelligent, definitely has an intuitive knowledge of economics and politics. I enjoyed the session, it was only €50. For some reason, we did not kiss, although it was discussed in passing. She said she really disliked it when guys tried to secure DFK before the session: 'I'm not an automaton'. And she indicated that in those cases, she will charge extra, while in general she prefers the kissing to be spontaneous. Anyway, I would repeat and recommend.

Jacqueline, Brazil (Mulatto, wider body, fit, fake boobs, brunette). Sucker17 compares her to Rihanna, however Jacqueline has a better body =) And that is not to say, her face can't compete. I'd take Rihanna only for the sense of power, but in the wilderness Jacqueline trumps her. Jacqueline has perfect technique and animal passion. Without any negotiation, just expectations (but not hopes, hope is the greatest evil, as the Greeks teach us) , everything was included for €50.

In general, full service, as in FKK World level, is possible at Palace. The probability increases with the Latin and Caribbean cliques. These girls, unlike the Europeans, have a harder time dissecting sex into various different acts, sanctimoniously dividing sex into a plurality of different commodities.

Kiara, Deutschland (Slim, lean, fit, runway model's face, covers her fake breasts with black net, sometimes hair in a ponytail, sometimes not). I had resisted Kiara for a while, partly owing to the discrepancy between the subjectivity of other mongers' reports and my own view of her. Because they loved her so much, I envisioned her to something greater than she is. But the reality is, she's pretty hot. Her abs are perfect, and so on.

This time she made the right approach. I told her 'kidnap' wasn't really going to work with me, that it was tired and cliche, that her English was better than that, that she didn't have to feign horniness, that she could just make normal conversation and the proximity of her nude body would eventually do the persuasion. I think I said something like that, in a playful tone, though, and she understood.

I just did a €50 session with her. I knew she wouldn't kiss for €50, but this wasn't a big deal to me at the time. She offered extras, but I said I could only promise €50, since it was our first session together, though maybe I would want an extra in the course of the session. This reasoning she accepted and besides the typical omissions (DFK, DATY) , I did not notice any willful reduction in service. As it turned out, her blowjob was quite good and I could consider doing a CIM with her next time. So indeed, I would repeat and I do recommend. Just spend €100 if you really want to guarantee everything you want.

Additionally, the conversation flowed naturally between us. Among the topics was the odd persistence of fat and / or ugly girls in the place. She really could not fathom the tastes of some men: 'Perhaps I could make more money if I were fat and ugly'. Not said with bitterness, just perplexity at the bizarre. 4chan also forces us to confront, though not comprehend, the relativity in taste.

Angelina, Spain (brunette, fake boobs, fittest girl in the club, large perfect ass). Probably about age 30, self-admitted sports-freak. Speaks English with a Spanish (or perhaps Romanian) accent, but somehow it has a slight New York twang. Anyway, I felt like kissing her and licking, because I like her, though I shouldn't. To make this possible, I did an extra (came on her body) , O heresy. I enjoyed the session, until payday: she wanted €150, but I had already closed my valuables locker. I just explained why it was €100, and she just said, 'It's OK, it was a misunderstanding'. She could not refute my FKK jurisprudence! And as I said, the locker was already relocked, the wallet stowed away: this visual diminishes the shark's hopes.

Recommend? No, but she's really hot, so if you want to fuck an experienced provider, who makes good conversation, then go for it. Repeat? Yeah, once I see her again, I'll overturn any resolutions to the contrary anyway.

Note there is another Angelina From Romania, who advertises as Egypt. I disagree with the necessity of avoiding her, she has one of the more intriguing personalities in the club, good conversation. Maybe I should have gone with her again, but I just stubbornly resisted.

[Occultus]

I went to the Palace a month and sampled a variety of girls, some of them I knew, some of them I was meeting for the first time.

Here are the names: Joy, Lulu, Marina, Yanita, Kelly, Jacqueline, Kiara, Angelina, Brenda, Maggie, Luana, Cindy, Lisa, Saskia, Olga, Eileen, Andrea, Marisol, Astrid, Ana.

Joy, Deutschland (blonde, tall, fake boobs). I should not have repeated with her, in fact she had resolved a few months ago never to let me fuck her again, and I didn't want to, since she tried to rip me off. But her body holds a place in my memory, both her body and the pleasure I experienced on the first fuck. So resolutions failed before Fate. It was a terrible session, she was resisting my instructions on how to position her body during the BJ. In other words, say the camera were at my head, then she wasn't displaying his body to the camera properly, for we want a full view of the breasts, nipples, and her pussy. To accomplish this in a pose, she has apparently forgotten how to do. Overall, terrible session followed by a dejected mood. Not recommended, but it doesn't really matter: she's hot =)

Lulu, Austria (brunette, tattoos, fake boobs). I wanted to avoid her, really, because I didn't want to fall in love with her again, and sink into a state of dependency. For there are two kinds of love: the first is total satisfaction, like I felt after coming in Samantha (De) : 'I have everything, I want nothing more', so to speak. The second is wanting more than you can possibly get, yet believing, hoping you can attain the impossible. With Lulu, it was the second kind of love I wanted to avoid. I have the tendency never to want to leave the room once I'm in it with her.

She approached me, perhaps curious I was evading her glances. 'Is this your first day? ' she asked (as in first day of my tour). 'Yes' I replied. 'Mine too, it's destiny' she returned (as in her first day after a break). I tried to suppress my smile, but it was too amusing.

Eventually, she asked me if I would like to go the room, 'We go together? ' I replied, 'No, but I can't avoid it'. She understood what I meant, her facial expression indicating gladness in the confirmation of her power.

She's changed her makeup style a bit (basically, she uses more now). Initially, I found it alluring, though later I thought, if she continues on the same path, she'll turn into the Joker. But she was never one to swerve from artificiality: some new or redone tattoos.

Anyway, her proximity melted my resolve and I agreed to session with her. After an hour, I couldn't make up my mind to stay or go. She posed the question in a cat-like pose on the bed, arching her back. I couldn't answer, it was as though I was paralyzed. But the predator had mercy, 'You will be upset with yourself and with me later, if we stay. Let's stop now'.

Do I recommend? Not really, but she's interesting to me, and I like her body. Repeat? Yeah, I will even if I don't want to.

Marina, Cuba (Black-Latin, straight her, net outfit). Marina is black, has a great sense of humor, and offers excellent service, even for €50 (meaning DFK, DATY, etc.).

In general, the key is to just expect it, rather than negotiate beforehand, which is a buzzkill not just for you, but also for the girl. Some girls, believe it or not, like to spontaneously kiss. Also, they can see in your eyes, your demeanor, what service level you expect. Alternatively: keeping a poker-face lets you call the shots: if she can't read you, she has no advantage. Or she might interpret the poker-face as 'you've been around the block, you're nobody's fool: indeed, brothel's aren't that big a deal for you'.

With Marina not of this was an issue, just a digression on my part. She asked me my name. 'Whatever you want', I replied. 'OK, Bill', she replied. I indicated I had to go the bathroom. 'You can just do it in the room', she joked. Naturally, being an upright citizen, I don't condone perversions, and immediately canceled the session. No, just kidding, I laughed, but relieved myself normally first. Anyway, great session: repeat, recommend, etc. Sucker17 enjoyed her too.

As for as cliques are concerned, Marina of course hangs out with the Caribbean clique: with Alice, Marisol, Kelly, and some other girls.

Yanita, Bulgaria (Faux-blonde, perfectly fit, tanned skin, alluring face, fake tits). This time we clicked. Off the hook service for €50, meaning DFK, DATY, etc. Of course, YMMV, but many guys here seem to have good luck. By the way, she herself spells her stage-name 'Yanita' (not 'Janita').

[Amriptna111]

Hi all,

Knew palace were having more sharks then ever anyway dropped by just for gina. Well same service from her. Anyway I would like to give info on new tricks for palace girls.

Palace hookers: first time here.

Me : yes.

Bla. Bla. Fast forward.

Me : so for basic session do you frnech kiss.

Palace hookers: yes but for 50 extra.

Me : ok. Well what do you cover for basic session for 30 minutes.

Palace hookers: sex multiple position, kiss you abit here and there, mpos sex, and blowjob with condom.

Me : how about no condom.

Palace hookers : that is another 50 extra. (WTF. Hahahaha0.

P / s by the way 2 more girls did the same thing. Only the old girls are reliable the new ones are total craps. Beautifull but not worth your buck.

[UShobbyist]

Sudfass used to be my favorite club in Frankfurt. But that was more than 10 years ago. It simply cannot compete with the FKK clubs any more. Really not worth going there.

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The entry fee of FKK Sudfass is only 20 Euro. FKK Sudfass is located at a good neighbourhood (about 7 minutes' walk from Romer ). The next door ErosCenter is a brothel and I will check it out next time I am in Frankfurt.

[The Cane]

Two girl sessions are mainly for girls trying to get out of working hard. Its rare that a two girl is going to be good as taking two one girl sessions. 90% of the time will be a waste of money.

I would strongly agree with this, including the part about some girls just not wanting to work so hard. As has been suggested by others, I think one of the keys to having a good two girl session is to let the girls pick each other rather than the monger picking a random one here and a random there that he likes. You want the girls to be into each other in order to get some "synergies" golng.

I've had a couple of outstanding two girl sessions in my "career", but I've never even attempted one at a FKK. The best ever was in Brazil (there are a lot of "bests" about that place). The other was with two Albanians working in Spain. Oh, I've had plenty of opportunities to do doubles at the FKKs. Plenty of "tag teams" will put on the pressure, but I just say I only have one dick for one girl, which always gets a little laugh. I get an even bigger laugh when they try to play to my fantasies and I tell them my fantasy isn't two girls at one time, but more like 5 to 10 at a time! LOL!

Rarely ever will I agree to taking two at the same time. I've got to be in a really good mood! Besides, I would run through my booty budget way too soon too doing that! And have any of you guys ever encountered two girls who will ONLY do threesomes? I find that to be incredibly annoying! You like the one and you want to do her, but she absolutely will not go unless her friend is in on the action too! I met a couple of Polish girls like that at Artemis one time. They were both attractive blondes, but I really preferred one much more over the other, but she would not go without her "friend". It's like they need each other as some kind of security blanket or something. I know one thing. By taking that stance, they're losing many more opportunities to earn.

[Syzygies]

I did a session with 2 girls one of which was Polish and the other one escapes me. The Polish girl I think was Elena and she was attractive. The session was lackluster.

Two girl sessions are mainly for girls trying to get out of working hard. Its rare that a two girl is going to be good as taking two one girl sessions. 90% of the time will be a waste of money. I have done it with two Thai girls (on my suggestion) and was O. K, with two western girls and was pretty lousy.

[Euro100]

Sudfass used to be my favorite club in Frankfurt. But that was more than 10 years ago. It simply cannot compete with the FKK clubs any more. Really not worth going there.

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