FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[Jake993]

Gentlemen,

First let me thank you for your most informative contributions on this forum.

I have visited Palace 3 times. Each during a long layover between flights traveling from the USA to either Russia or the Middle East. It's a nice way to break up two long flights. Usually I arrive in the early hours of the morning from the USA and have arrived at Palace shortly after opening time. Shower, shave, have a little breakfast, take a coffee, read the paper and see what "pops up" so to speak. I have done this once on a Monday and twice on a Thursday. As you can imagine, I have not experienced Palace in "full swing" as the selection of girls was quite limited (although no complaints for sure) given the time of day. On one Thursday visit I think I was actually able to stay until 16:00 before I had to leave for my connecting flight, so I was able to just get a glimpse of the talent that started to arrive in the afternoon.

In February, I will find myself going in the opposite direction arriving on Friday mid-morning from Dubai and not traveling onwards to the USA until Saturday morning! A whole day in Frankfurt! So the obvious question is how best to spend my time. Never having experienced "rush hour" at Palace on a Friday night, I am a little hesitant to complete with the regular patrons for the attention of the best girls so I was thinking about spending the afternoon starting about noon and leaving no later than 20:00 when, I am sure, the place will start to get pretty crowded.

My questions are the following;.

1. Are my assumptions correct about Friday night being the busiest night of the week?

2. I'll get a hotel somewhere near the train station so I am wondering of there is anything else worth partaking in after an afternoon / evening at the FKK given my abbreviated visit? And by that I don't mean another FKK but perhaps there is a special bar in the area where girls make themselves available? Sort of a "must see" experience like Night Flight in Moscow or Cafe Foto in Sao Paulo? Suggestions appreciated.

Many thanks,

Jake.

[Jooeey]

I never been to GT due to its location and I hear club has not big LU comparison to Artemis, Oase or sharks?, but I feel GT is similar to sharks and Oase for Lineup?

Your perspective on this may help, Thanks for that! And your answers come very close to the information that me and a couple of others were looking out for when comparing between Hessen Clubs and Clubs in NRW. By the way your belief on the line up being good in GT is it purely based on hearsay or has anyone you know personally been there and has given you this info?

[Mr Ho]

I am talking only Line up here and service and not the facility.

I find Oase and Sharks being similar as far as line up goes. As for service, I found sharks girl provide good service. Oase I only went with two girls and one provided good service and other one was disaster.

I find Artemis and palace similar in line up. But Artemis has more girls and it diversify more with different races than palace. As for service I find service at Artemis bit better than palace but still got to negotiate a bit in Artemis. As for Palace, most girls upsell or so you got to be bit of trained punter to negotiate harder to get good service.

I never been to GT due to its location and I hear club has not big LU comparison to Artemis, Oase or sharks?, but I feel GT is similar to sharks and Oase for Lineup?

[Member #4581]

You are fine, it was not about you.

Enjoy your comments. Thanks.

If my detailed reply was considered smart ass, I apologize. I meant it to be helpful. He said is budget was 1250 Euros. I assumed that was all in. Not enough money in my opinion.

[Banana Boi]

If my detailed reply was considered smart ass, I apologize. I meant it to be helpful.

I assume he was referring to Vito who I personally enjoy.

[Katinka]

Mqmb17,

Ignore the smart ass comments. Some guys have a weird sense of humor.

If my detailed reply was considered smart ass, I apologize. I meant it to be helpful. He said is budget was 1250 Euros. I assumed that was all in. Not enough money in my opinion.

[Banana Boi]

You are saying that as a collective number from all the NRW Clubs right? So would the collective number of girls from all the Hessen clubs not come out the same?

NRW has WAY more girls in FKK / saunaclubs / pauschalclubs than Hessen, period.

The comparison between NRW vs. Hessen is no different than the one in Thailand of Pattaya vs. Bangkok. In both countries, the lesser traveled city (Dusseldorf / NRW and Pattaya) has way more girls than the larger tourist / business city (Frankfurt and Bangkok). However, on ISG you will have so many more posts from visitors to the tourist / business cities (aka airport hubs) giving it the illusion it's the bigger, better destination. In Germany both areas have their fans and postivies/negatives but in Thailand, Pattaya imho is a million times more fun than Bangkok. If you've been on this board long enough, you'll notice the guys who enjoy NRW all started as tourists in Frankfurt, like everyone else.

I'm not trying to imply NRW is better than FRA, or vice versa. The only message I want to make clear is go to both and YOU decide which is better. Same applies if you go to Thailand.

[Mqmb17]

1250 euro for just sessions? For club entry and sessions? For air, hotel, transportation, entry, and sessions? How long is the trip?

Keep in mind club entry for Hessen clubs average around 65 euro per club so if you're staying 1 week that's 1/3 of your budget gone. If it's 1250 euro for just girls for the week then you'd be tight but manageable if very selective.

Remember food (some barely edible) is free in all FKK's so that will not be an expense you have to worry about when you hobby in Germany.

I don't think it's standard practice to negotiate lengthy sessions with new girls. You also don't want to upset a girl and have her tell the entire club you're a cheap ass. What if she's awful and you already promised her 250 euro for 3 hours? With a regular you may feel more comfortable negotiating.

Not sure why you're considering 3 hour sessions with girls if your overall budget is only 1250 euro, unless that is for 3 day trips.

Thanks to everyone that replied. I did have a decent look around but probably I needed to look deeper for info.

Understood re each hour being E 100 (without extras) regardless of number of hours. The difference from what I was.

Familiar with in Zurich was their the girls are employees of the clubs and it is always a fixed rate but from reading here I understand the girls are "self employed" in the FKK clubs so I thought the rate might be flexible for longer bookings (I am now corrected). EUR 1,250 was my budget for one full day, including return flight from London return and 1 night hotel (EUR 200 say), trains, taxis, entrance, cost of drinks if any (may go to GT or LR), as I like to drink, fuck (not so bothered if it is not top peak performance) and normally have a stimulant (but I have no idea as to availability in these clubs). I guess that will leave me with approx EUR 800 for sessions (seems fine). I will book my flight to Frankfurt and will make best guess from there having read this folder in more depth. Oase (as suggested) may be worth a shot.

[Jooeey]

If missing out on 1000's of girls is not missing much then yes you will not be missing anything. If you combine all the clubs there are WAY more girls in the NRW area than FRA area.

You are saying that as a collective number from all the NRW Clubs right? So would the collective number of girls from all the Hessen clubs not come out the same?

[PussyLiccker]

2. Diva attitude or not doesn't come into girl becoz of FKK she is in. It comes from many other different reasons, e. G. Demand&Supply, personal attitude and biggest reason of all, if she is a stunner.

You have listed some good reasons for this, and it is individualized based on various factors. With those reasons, the likelihood can be looked as club dependent due to many factor including the clientel which does make the market. Prime examples are Artemis and Palace, and the rest to less degree. World has been regarded as service being higher which is due to such reasons I imagine. Saying club/region dependent just means taking account no the avg, so a generalization. You can always look at it in microscopic scale too.

We all know what happens on a busy night at a big club. Girls are in demand, and less likely she will give you the time of day as there are many punters around.

Stunners doesn't always mean the attitude is low, but the higher liklihood of her attitude and selectiveness rides on her business, how much in demand she is, which rides on what environment is is at.

I can point out some examples. Mondial is one club that tourists rarely go, and there is a girl I would call close to a stunner (hotter than any girl I see in all the clubs), but she has a very good attitude, and her business is not high in demand due to the type of club she is at, the wrong clientele type. I would imagine she snatches up any out of place clients that would show up to the club. If she were to work at club with higher percentage of them, her business would be much higher.

My early days of visiting NRW, I've been with a stunner at LR. On the avg, the service level at LR is higher than most clubs, and as a stunner her service level was good. I'm pretty sure her service level would drop if she were to work a club where her demand would be high with folks just looking at optiks.

On the avg, DV in Dusseldorf, the service isn't regarded highly, which is pretty much on line with my experience. I met a stunner there, and service was below avg.

Cassandra (DE, Oase 2012) very high stunner came off generally with a good attitude, but that was during her career within a span of months. Generally I hear girls start off with good service, and drops off as demand gets higher.

Some clubs out in the middle of nowhere, they mainly get regulars, and based on what I see, lots of these guys come to party, sit around etc. , and the proportion of tourist are much smaller if they exist. I hypothosized that when they figure out you are a tourist they know you are there to fuck, so your popularity will rise.

So yes, environment counts, and all clubs have different environments.

Service clubs are another one of those environments, and attitudes of the girls will be higher, and what is on the offer by the girls will be higher, and that's the charm for folks that attend. So, stuff like this factors in for punters.

I did a trip to Madrid P6 scene not too long ago, and it is prime example of reports not lining up with what I observed. Punters would report stunners, and going with stunners, but my experience didn't turn out to be the case. Let alone the service level I've experienced there. Same for Globe in Switzerland.

.. Plus there is a restricted door policy in most of the clubs in NRW ..

Just GT. LR doesn't seem to have the same door policy as the club is not as popular as it's sister (GT). Samya, Mondial, Magnum, and Aca are clubs that have Turkish ownership which do not have a door policy. SixSens and YinYing doesn't either, and I dunno of others that do. I have seen good number of Indian folks at Samya. Generally, I don't see so many of them all around. Even with 1 Indian man I've seen on couple visits at GT, that just seems pretty typical number I'd expect all around at the NRW.

So I guess sticking to frankfurt, we may not miss much.

It's all individual choice, but like you say, it's a guess. Sometimes I guess wrong, sometimes right. Haha.

Me being a tourist, I prefer places I have much advantage punting as I go with small percentage of girls in clubs, and I will go with liklihood of good to great session with the most attractive girl with a great attitude. I think that's how a lot of us weigh things, no?

[Banana Boi]

Funny how the Palace thread has turned into a newbie where should I go NRW vs. FRA thread.

1. When there is a long discussion on a topic and there is still no clear winner, then it means frankfurt might be as good as NRW.

From your name I decided to check your posting history. If your posting history is consistent with your nationality you will likely be better served in FRA than NRW. Not that there aren't still great clubs in NRW that will allow your entry but when you eliminate imo 2 of the top 3 NRW clubs then you may as well stay in FRA.

2. Diva attitude or not doesn't come into girl becoz of FKK she is in.

There is a clear difference in attitude to say the girls who work at Palace or Oase vs. girls who work at Living Room and Sixsens. It has nothing to do with looks rather the club environment and what they can get away with.

So I guess sticking to frankfurt, we may not miss much.

If missing out on 1000's of girls is not missing much then yes you will not be missing anything. If you combine all the clubs there are WAY more girls in the NRW area than FRA area.

[Jooeey]

Buddy even I am second time visitor to frankfurt and was contemplating visit NRW for FKK or not. But you know if my thought process is right I have two points:

1. When there is a long discussion on a topic and there is still no clear winner, then it means frankfurt might be as good as NRW.

Mind you there are punters here who maintain that clubs in NRW is something special.

[Rajat1]

My question is straight and simple, long I have heard about these clubs in NRW that they are a notch up in service than their counterpart in hessen and that led to my curiosity of trying clubs in NRW but if it is not something unique that you can't find in the big 5 clubs in Hessen why would one go there? Plus there is a restricted door policy in most of the clubs in NRW so unless someone convinces me on how the clubs in NRW are better than in Frankfurt or Hessen, I don't see any solid reason to overlook the assured entry in Frankfurt and go to NRW! I read someone saying that the girls in NRW have less of " Diva" attitude does that mean they don't act snobbish and snooty but you are likely to find such gems even in a Place say Sharks aswell so why worry? I mean just a point??

Buddy even I am second time visitor to Frankfurt and was contemplating visit NRW for FKK or not. But you know if my thought process is right I have two points:

1. When there is a long discussion on a topic and there is still no clear winner, then it means Frankfurt might be as good as NRW.

2. Diva attitude or not doesn't come into girl because of FKK she is in. It comes from many other different reasons, e. G. Demand&Supply, personal attitude and biggest reason of all, if she is a stunner.

So I guess sticking to Frankfurt, we may not miss much.

[Jooeey]

I've been around a bunch of clubs, so I know what my expectations are. If you've done several visits to various clubs, you have an idea what to expect. The best impression a club makes is a solid visit.

My argument is pretty straight and simple, long I have heard about these clubs in NRW that they are a notch up in service than their counterpart in hessen and that led to my curiosity of trying clubs in NRW but if it is not something unique that you can't find in the big 5 clubs in Hessen why would one go there? Plus there is a restricted door policy in most of the clubs in NRW so unless someone convinces me on how the clubs in NRW are better than in Frankfurt or Hessen, I don't see any solid reason to overlook the assured entry in Frankfurt and go to NRW! I read someone saying that the girls in NRW have less of " Diva" attitude does that mean they don't act snobbish and snooty but you are likely to find such gems even in a Place say Sharks aswell so why worry? I mean just a point??

[Banana Boi]

1250 euro for just sessions? For club entry and sessions? For air, hotel, transportation, entry, and sessions? How long is the trip?

Keep in mind club entry for Hessen clubs average around 65 euro per club so if you're staying 1 week that's 1/3 of your budget gone. If it's 1250 euro for just girls for the week then you'd be tight but manageable if very selective.

Remember food (some barely edible) is free in all FKK's so that will not be an expense you have to worry about when you hobby in Germany.

Hour price is EUR 100,3 hours for EUR 250)?

I don't think it's standard practice to negotiate lengthy sessions with new girls. You also don't want to upset a girl and have her tell the entire club you're a cheap ass. What if she's awful and you already promised her 250 euro for 3 hours? With a regular you may feel more comfortable negotiating.

Not sure why you're considering 3 hour sessions with girls if your overall budget is only 1250 euro, unless that is for 3 day trips.