FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[Hessen Bub]

BTW, the last time I was at Palace, there were "Menus" in the lockers listing what the house prices were and what qualified as a chargeable extra. Has that since gone by the waist-side?

Those pictograms are still hanging in the rooms.

As a regular the staff still know me. Probably 50% of the girls still know my face / name. So probably a discussion about what is standard service and what is extra for which price would go differently for me. But I agree, why bother if there's so many other clubs with great line-up, consistent service and almost no rip-off. I go to Palace once in a quarter to enjoy the facilities and some of the girls there.

HB

[Dedalus]

Not good. It's the opposite of what I was told by the manager (female) on dury the last time I was at Palace. It's a disappointment.

DFK is not required from the girls, but they should tell you upfront if they don't kiss. I would also have left the room, but more because of the covered BJ (or did you opt for CBJ)? Taking 50€ extra for kissing is a rip-off.

What does that tell me? Palace is a tourist joint, if you are not a local and / or an experienced FKK user you should avoid Palace and go to Oase, Sharks or World.

HB

Same shit, different year.

It's admittedly been a few years since I've walked through Palace's doors, but this is pretty much why I never go there. I WAS a pretty frequent visitor before and when Palace started its downward slide as far as management and service standards goes, and I took a good bit of heat in this forum for suggesting that not only were the girls colluding to keep 50 EUR sessions a miserable experience and engaging in both both legit and illegitimate upsells, but that the management and staff (which use to be top shelf!) had become totally unreasonable, unfriendly and complicit in its backing of the girls' "scams."

For the record, apart from simple observation of this trend (and one didn't need to be all THAT bright to see it) a number of regulars of mine hipped me into what was going on. In fact, a girl who moved her act to Palace recently from another Hessen club confirms to me on her occasional returns to her former stopping grounds that "it's still the same as you remember. Nothing has changed."

Obviously scams can happen at any club. I've seen gals at Oase bring Asian guys back to the lockers and tell them that they own 200 EUR for 30 minutes. A regular of mine caught me looking at her while she was pulling this and actually hung her head in a bit of shame. However she did get her ill gotten gains.

But Palace has turned this into an art and it's no secret amongst many locals and regulars that by and large Palace is NOT the place to go for quality service. Great shame since it use to be a head taller than all the other competition in Hessen.

Our good friend Ortos likes to kid me about my aversion to Palace. All in good fun of course. And I'm sincerely glad that he finds good times there. Personally I just do not care to waste my time wading through all the crap to find a diamond in a barrel of dung. But hey, to each his own.

World, Oase and Sharks (if you catch the place on a good line-up day) have much better overall service standards in my experience. I've certainly had a few gals at those places who don't kiss, but NEVER has another tried to charge me extra for it.

BTW, the last time I was at Palace, there were "Menus" in the lockers listing what the house prices were and what qualified as a chargeable extra. Has that since gone by the waist-side?

Cheers,

Dedalus

[Hessen Bub]

At Breadman: This would probably not have happened at Mainhattan, but could have. I was just referring to the overall service level.

At Syzygies: All I wrote is only valid for clean customers treating the girls with respect. Not valid for filthy stinking assholes.

HB

[Breadman]

I didn't mention Mainhattan because service levels are vayrying.

HB

Would the scene with Descentdude have happened at Mainhattan? I think the answer would be no, hence my opinion to add Mainhattan to the list.

[Syzygies]

DFK is not required from the girls, but they should tell you upfront if they don't kiss. I would also have left the room, but more because of the covered BJ (or did you opt for CBJ)? Taking 50€ extra for kissing is a rip-off.

What does that tell me? Palace is a tourist joint, if you are not a local and / or an experienced FKK user you should avoid Palace and go to Oase, Sharks or World.

HB

While agree that the Palace is not the best place to find a high percentage of GFE girls without upsell, I would just point out one thing.

Its not possible to force girls to do DFK nor BBBJ. It is possible that a mouth or dick can be in unbelievably foul condition. Stinky / smelly. There are guys who refuse to shower. I have seen them not wash on entry and after the toilet. Perhaps in these cases the girl should really refuse to do the session at all, but may be willing to fuck with a condom and BJ with a condom. Not much to be done about a foul mouth really, other than refuse kissing.

Because girls are not happy with wasting time 30 mins plus room wait time to get a fifty, they see charging extra for kissing as a way to make more money. This is unfortunate. In many cases it would not be worth the extra fifty anyway.

Its easier to go to World and then have to be quite unlucky indeed to strike an upsell girl or one who won't kiss at all. There are still girls who are too procedural, whose BBBJ is quite bad, and not an enjoyable fuck either, but every club must suffer some girls who are generally just crap performers.

[Yakob]

I didn't mention Mainhattan because service levels are vayrying.

HB

Yup, service levels at Mainhattan are varying. You have to ask some of the girls there if they kiss before you go to the room. You hardly ever, if at all, see a girl at Mainhattan kiss a monger in the main lounge so you never know. At Oase you see the girls kissing guys there all the time so you know you are in for a good thing. YMMV.

[Hessen Bub]

I didn't mention Mainhattan because service levels are vayrying.

HB

[Breadman]

What does that tell me? Palace is a tourist joint, if you are not a local and / or an experienced FKK user you should avoid Palace and go to Oase, Sharks or World.

HB

Don't forget to mention Mainhattan.

[JimmyVegas]

Hi guys.

I'm headin to germany in a few days. I'm a big labia (very large inner pussy lips) lover. Any reccomendations at any clubs. Oase or other?

Thanks!

Jv

[Hessen Bub]

Not good. It's the opposite of what I was told by the manager (female) on dury the last time I was at Palace. It's a disappointment.

DFK is not required from the girls, but they should tell you upfront if they don't kiss. I would also have left the room, but more because of the covered BJ (or did you opt for CBJ)? Taking 50€ extra for kissing is a rip-off.

What does that tell me? Palace is a tourist joint, if you are not a local and / or an experienced FKK user you should avoid Palace and go to Oase, Sharks or World.

HB

[DecentDude]

Just report all the "100€ for kissing" girls to the reception. The are eager to find out. Everything above 50€ for DFK, DATY, BBBJ and sex in MPOS is a rip-off.

HB

Interesting you say that. That is completely not my impression of the management based on what transpired today. I had the most ridiculous experience.

Facts of the case. Walked in to the room with this girl (name withheld because I promised her). She puts the condom on for CBJ when we get into the discussion of what's included (my bad for not confining before we ended up in the oom). She gives the standard spiel about kissing is voluntary and not necessarily included in the 50 euros. At which point I take of the condom and say let's not do this. The chick says I owe her 50 euros and we ave o go the reception. I was like bring it on.

The girl at the front desk was the absolute worst. She is youngish and a brunette. All the other days there were older women or a really nice blond chick. Today, it was this brunette. I asked her her name but she wouldn't say. If anyone knows it, please let me know. The girl from the room unloads on the front desk girl in German. I state my case saying she only put the condom on and I didn't even touch her. So there is no way I am paying 50. To her credit, the girl from the room confined this. So we both ask to speak to the manager. The front desk girl calls the manger whoi is apparently too busy to come out and mediate (wth?). O font desk girl pulls a number out of her ass and says I have to pay room girl 25. I was like no way, drag your manager out. The front desk girl pointedly confirmed two things:

1) she always trusts the girls over the customer (her response was "ofcourse I trust the girl and not you")

2) basic 50 covers only sucking and fucking. No dfk.

Long story short, I didn't want to make a scene since I not speak German nd didn't understand any of what the two were saying. The room girl seemed decent overall. So faced with 25 for nthg vs. 50 for the fuck, I opted for the latter. Again, my beef became less with the room girl who was decent in bed but more about the font desk girl.

So HB buddy, I am confused when you say mgmt is eager, because she was sure as fuck not eager. I hope they fire her ass.

[Hessen Bub]

Just report all the "100€ for kissing" girls to the reception. The are eager to find out. Everything above 50€ for DFK, DATY, BBBJ and sex in MPOS is a rip-off.

HB

[Bukken]

Arriving in Frankfurt around noon and have a flight again at 10. Enough time to go to the Palace? How much with a taxi? Better by train? Thanks, will post a report.

[DecentDude]

Slept off the jetlag in the morning and headed to the palace at about 3 PM. Had lunch. The food as promised is pretty good.

Session 1: Monica. She is a bomb. Tall, blond, fake boobs. Is a milfy Cameron Diaz lool alike. Had good fun int the room. CBJ (my preference) lots of kissing and lots of fucking I was having trouble finishing so she helped out with a HJ. Great attitude and great kisser. I was in heaven.

Recommend: Yes.

Repeat: Hell yes but she keeps a weird schedule (Mon Tue Fri)

Session 2: Russian chick. Forgot her name. Will ask and let you know tomorroow. She is a brunette and just started a few months back. Was in Holland before. Older looking up close, natural boobs. Not a kisser but a good session. I enjoyed myself. Multiple positions, not aclock watcher. I was so turned on I didn't need a HJ to finish.

Recommend: Yes.

Reeat: Yes.

Session 3: Bulgarian chick. Tall brunette, not petite, smallish boobs. This was a sympathy fuck. She reminds of an irish chick I knew cause she has curly brwonish hair. She has a fun personality. She has amedallion on her neck. Had chatted with her quite a bit the previous night and turned out to be ok. CBJ and a few positions. Helped me finish up wih a HJ while kissing me. So that was pretty cool.

Recommend: Yes.

Repeat: No.

Session 4: Petite blond Romanian chick. Her name was Slara (sp?) or maybe that was her friend. She had on new shoes and could barely walk. Very petite small boobs. She has quite the striking face. Decent session. Not a kisser but not a clock watcher either. No upsell.

Recommend: Yes

Repeat: No.

The night is still young). More to follow

[Dedalus]

Can anyone here enlighten me as to the best probability where such fillies are to be found in Germany as at March 2013?

Not so many in the clubs these days. Steffi (Russian. Oase) comes to mind. Even though she's been in the biz for many a year, she still looks pretty smokin' I think.

Most of the Russians and Baltics who are still practicing the trade here in D'land are more likely to be found doing private escorting or in the apartment / bordello addresses. Pretty sure that Toscana has some good info on a few quality Russian courtesans. It's been ages since I laid eyes (or other things) on a Baltic gal in Germany's FKK club scene. Saw a beautiful Latvian in Spain down at the Privee club near Tarragona but that was two years ago. There are a few hot Latvian ladies who work at a bordello I know, but it's off the beaten path and they are only there every other month.

No wonder Germany has a strong economy. Think about how much money this circulates, such as Pascha in Cologne:12 stories and 9, 000 square metres just for starters, and people spend that money, employing everyone from cleaners, cooks, taxis, food and alcohol producers etc etc. The world would be a better place with everyone getting laid and money circulating rather than being pissed up against the wall by investment banks (aka casinos).

Not so sure that as much prostitution dough makes it back into the German economy as you might think. Most gals I know in the biz take a good deal of their earnings back to Romania, or wherever they call home when they're not servicing dopes like me. Very few of them are paying taxes on these monies either. No doubt that a club's income does trickle down to some businesses, but probably not as many as you might think. The guys and gals who clean up GT and LR are foreigners who earn peanuts, and what they do earn they save and send it home. I can't imaging that club taxi business generates all that much income. Probably the lawyers who club owners have to hire to deal with all the legal red tape of a club's business (and a few owner's trespasses) make a mint. Typical.

As Cervantes wrote,"All that glitters is not gold."

Cheers,

Dedalus