FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[Vito Corleone]

German Kim is back@Palace. Still has a pretty face, but has gained maybe 10 kilos & has a fake rack now. There was a drop dead gorgeous German babe with a fake rack & hair so blonde it almost looked silver. She was booked the entire night, but I was able to catch a glimpse when she visited the bar to get drinks. Never had a chance to get her name. My mind was on my new sewing & stamp collecting hobbies.

Lots of new girls & I like the new set up. The long marble strands that serve as a curtain hinder the view of the babes on the new circular couches might look nice, but have to go. You basically have to walk right up & move the curtain to get a look. Also new shower heads with plenty of hot water. Rocky Balboa has his own desk now.

Nothing new to report on the babes as I stuck to my regulars.

[DoubleTop]

Maybe they pull that on non-regulars or newbies. There's no such official rule.HB

After I experienced this on my one and only visit to Palace in June, I raised it with the front desk and they categorically said that kissing does not cost extra. Whilst a girl was indeed free to choose not to kiss, period, (as in other clubs) , she was not allowed to charge extra for it if she did it.

[Hedonian]

I think you are dead right: There is / never has been such a rule. Some girls DO try this on guys who just exude a newbie vibe.

O

You are right, it is a poker game and business bargaining but for me that kills the fantasy of the moment.

I don't speak German and I go to clubs several times per year and most of them think I am there first time.

I love to chat and have small talk with girls and if there is vibe we slowly work things up to the seductive talk. I start getting feeling that they are falling for me. We start kissing and touching and off the room we go. Being middle aged guy with few extra pounds, this fantasyland transforms me to my youth. When they hit me with 50 euro kissing fee I loose interest. With the girls that provide me with GFE fantasy I always stay 1 hour and for top GFE, such as Bee in Palace or Judith in Oase, I stay 2 or 3 hours. I guess I do not come there often so that I can build relationships with many girls and have better sessions with new girls.

I try to improve my chances and I go to clubs that are rated highly. I try to get names and descriptions of GFE SP, but even that is problematic since there are so many girls. I do not have much luck in identifying GFE SP that are mentioned on the forum. Most of the time it ends up as a trial and error type of the situation.

If you have any idea how to improve odds of hitting GFE SP I would love to hear.

H

[Hessen Bub]

I've said this before. Doing all of that is too much hassle and bullshit. I didn't travel thousands of miles to play stupid games. Palace isn't the only FKK club around with hot chicks so after my January visit I've gone to other clubs and had a way better times. I just hate having to always ask do they DFK just to be told it is 50 euros extra for a "romantic package". I mean almost very chick is like that. In any one club I only consider about 10 girls fuckable and here at Palace it's the same. Almost every chick I wanted to fuck that night told me that.

You are absolutely right, this is what pisses me off about Palace. I have visited the club quite a few times since they opened, but this year I can count my visits on one hand. I hate negotiating sessions or asking about DFK or DATY. But. At Palace you have to to not get a lousy session or to overpay. That's why my homebase now is Oase, sometimes World.

One advantage I do have is being a local and a regular, so a lot of girls will not try that bullshit on me.

HB

[IowaCB14]

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I like relaxing GFE without too much bull shit. Where is most likely that we can get that?

You can get relaxing GFE very easily in Montreal, Canada.

[Bluat]

I think you are dead right: There is / never has been such a rule. Some girls DO try this on guys who just exude a newbie vibe. Whenever a girl feeds me such a line.pay 50e extra for kissing- I just laugh at them and ask them if I really do look that stupid? I tell them clearly that I know they are trying to rip me off and I act very insulted, telling them that I've been coming to the club for years and years and have NEVER paid more for this. But I also make it clear that I can be a very, very good customer (and generous in terms of extending a session to 60 minutes or more) IF I get the kind of vibe and performance I am looking for. I then go on to explain what kind of session, etc. And things either do or do not fall into place. I usually do loose interest in a girl once she attempts this bullshit, and I let them know this.

It's a poker game, my friends: A girl raises, you re-raise. Often they back down, I. E. Fold their cards.

Indeed and with all due respect: It seems that a few guys who have sworn off Palace because of this, I think they simply do not know how to play the game there. It does help to speak some German, however. See an investment in a few weeks at the Goethe Institute, does pay off big time in savings down the FKK road!

O

I've said this before. Doing all of that is too much hassle and bullshit. I didn't travel thousands of miles to play stupid games. Palace isn't the only FKK club around with hot chicks so after my January visit I've gone to other clubs and had a way better times. I just hate having to always ask do they DFK just to be told it is 50 euros extra for a "romantic package". I mean almost very chick is like that. In any one club I only consider about 10 girls fuckable and here at Palace it's the same. Almost every chick I wanted to fuck that night told me that. I'm not going to settle and go for the B-listers so if the majority of my A-list is like that then I'd sooner just forget all about this club.

[Ortos]

Maybe they pull that on non-regulars or newbies. There's no such official rule.

HB

I think you are dead right: There is / never has been such a rule. Some girls DO try this on guys who just exude a newbie vibe. Whenever a girl feeds me such a line --pay 50e extra for kissing-- I just laugh at them and ask them if I really do look that stupid? I tell them clearly that I know they are trying to rip me off and I act very insulted, telling them that I've been coming to the club for years and years and have NEVER paid more for this. But I also make it clear that I can be a very, very good customer (and generous in terms of extending a session to 60 minutes or more) IF I get the kind of vibe and performance I am looking for. I then go on to explain what kind of session, etc. And things either do or do not fall into place. I usually do loose interest in a girl once she attempts this bullshit, and I let them know this.

It's a poker game, my friends: A girl raises, you re-raise. Often they back down, I. E. Fold their cards.

Indeed and with all due respect: It seems that a few guys who have sworn off Palace because of this, I think they simply do not know how to play the game there. It does help to speak some German, however. See an investment in a few weeks at the Goethe Institute, does pay off big time in savings down the FKK road!

O

[Hessen Bub]

but the standard on the +50 euro for kissing seems to be set.

Maybe they pull that on non-regulars or newbies. There's no such official rule.

HB

[Capt Dan]

I don't seem to have the same problems at FKK Palace as some of you guys are experiencing. But perhaps this is because I tend to be very selective about when I will visit this club.

I seldom visit on a Friday or Saturday and certainly would never visit during one of the large Frankfurt events / exhibitions when the club is crazy busy and the hookers are in overdrive in their endeavor to make money. Best days for me to visit FKK Palace are on a Thursday (when there is no Messe in town) or a Sunday when there is a more relaxed atmosphere in the club.

I would also have to say that you need to have a good interview technique with the girls. If you want DFK there is no point finding out in the room that there is an extra charge. Better to at least know about this requirement for kiss cash before you have entered the zimmer.

Another thing that works in my favor is that I will usually go to the room for at least 60 minutes, so that's a guaranteed €100 for the lady right from the off. I may also go for some other extras or extend the time beyond the hour but I certainly will not pay extra for DFK!

It also helps if you know some of the girls in the club. Word spreads that you tend to spend more than €50 or that you expect all kinds of gymnastics for €50.

If you are looking for GFE, I can recommend Mirabella (23, Romania/Transylvania - 5'4" Blonde/slim/cute/excellent English) although she is likely to claim to be Italian or Spanish. Used to be one of the Isabellas who worked at FKK World. Has been in the business for a couple of years now (maybe 2 years). I remember her when she started in FKK World, very sweet, nieve and innocent. She has changed a bit but still provides good service if you treat her well and extra services (for a fee) if she likes you.

CD

[Meeps77]

I agree completely. In my last couple visits it was terrible. Pushing and upselling and several attempts to charge 50 Eur for DFK. I will not go there any more.

I do not go that often to Germany so the right choice of club for me is precious to get the most out of my trip. What are the clubs that you prefer to visit these days in FRA and NRW regions?

I like relaxing GFE without too much bull shit. Where is most likely that we can get that?

I was recently there over about 5 days. I'll put out a full report in a week or so, but the standard on the +50 euro for kissing seems to be set. There were several girls who didn't play this game (Sammy, Vanessa, a couple of romanians whos names escape me). I guess I kept going there because I would spend all day there, weed out most of scammers, and enjoy much nicer and comfortable facilities. I picked two beautiful days to go to Oase and took in the sun.

[Hedonian]

This is my sentiment too. I just can't be bothered at the Palace any more. Too many of the good girls seem to have gone, e. G. Bee, Mitsu, Kimi, etc.

I agree completely. In my last couple visits it was terrible. Pushing and upselling and several attempts to charge 50 Eur for DFK. I will not go there any more.

I do not go that often to Germany so the right choice of club for me is precious to get the most out of my trip. What are the clubs that you prefer to visit these days in FRA and NRW regions?

I like relaxing GFE without too much bull shit. Where is most likely that we can get that?

[Syzygies]

All true. But I admit, to be honest, I can't be bothered with the weeding at Palace, and I think this is what Mike de H and others have been really saying. Especially as the management has made it quite clear to me that it doesn't care a shit if I discuss problems with them, and other clubs have a nice garden (literally and figuratively) with smoking hot line-ups at the moment. Just my market choice. If Oase or World didn't exist in the Frankfurt area, I'd be pushing you out of the way to get in through the Palace door LOL. I think you know where I'm coming from on this.

This is my sentiment too. I just can't be bothered at the Palace any more. Too many of the good girls seem to have gone, e. G. Bee, Mitsu, Kimi, etc. There are good ones left, to my specs, but you can't rely on any of your known great girls turning up. The Asian girls department (these were mostly good attitude girls) is very weak these days. Its just so much easier to find great girls at Oase these days. Its the ratio of great girls to crap girls to a small extent but also the total count of really super girls. Doing these renovations is just missing the point entirely. They just need to get rid of the very sharky girls and attract more GFE girls! Great girls previously at the Palace like Kimi (Brazil) told me they don't work Palace any more because too many other girls have bad attitude and are spoiling the business causing declining customer numbers and decline in the right sort of customers that she liked.

Its only about the selection of girls you have!
P.S. There is far too much silicone at Palace as I don't really like silicones, unless very subtle.
O.K. its paradise for silicone enthusiasts.

[Hedonian]

In this summer I have the ambition to visit all the biggest FKK clubs. I have already done most of NordRhein Westfallen (will see if I can get time to write some reports). Now it is time for the Frankfurt Clubs.

Yes I know. I have read the warnings in here about the sharks at Palace, and also about many of the girls wanting extra charge for kissing etc.

But this was the only major FKK club that I had not yet visited, so I thought how bad could it be on a Sunday evening. If I can just manage to overlook that maybe a good GFE session with a girl costs 100 eur instead of 50 eur I should be fine.

Happened to me too. They all seem to ask for DFK 50 Euro extra. I stopped going to Palace.

I think they target non-regulars in particular. I go every 3 to 6 months, so not many girls recognize me.

I wrote about this in Oase thread. I asked people to contribute Top 10 clubs they like to visit so I can go to those too when I am in Germany. I do not want to be hostage of any of handful of big clubs that dominate the market. Smaller clubs may be better but I cannot find that out of few visit per year. We need help from frequent visitors.

[Slither]

Paulina, Slovenia. Silicone boobs. Well shaped ass. Actually she did the kissing included in the 50 eur. And rode me in reverse cowgirls. First time of the day so it went very quick She deserves praise.

This girl sounds interesting, I think she should be new, can you describe a bit more please? Thanks for the very good report, and sorry to hear the bad experience.

[Frej Of Asgaard]

in this summer i have the ambition to visit all the biggest fkk clubs. i have already done most of nordrhein westfallen (will see if i can get time to write some reports). now it is time for the frankfurt clubs.

yes i know. i have read the warnings in here about the sharks at palace, and also about many of the girls wanting extra charge for kissing etc.

but this was the only major fkk club that i had not yet visited, so i thought how bad could it be on a sunday evening. if i can just manage to overlook that maybe a good gfe session with a girl costs 100 eur instead of 50 eur i should be fine.

i managed to turn down all those who came on to me in the beginning while still being polite.

turns out that i could not overlook the 50 eur gfe extra charge. when i have to start each time with haggling like in a turkish bazar it makes me angry. actualy so angry and distracted, that i took some time in the room afterwards before i could get an erection. very annoying. i forgot how much i hate doing bad deals. now i remember.

the girls i was with

paulina, slovenia. silicone boobs. well shaped ass. actually she did the kissing included in the 50 eur. and rode me in reverse cowgirls. first time of the day so it went very quick she deserves praise.

oksana (bul-rom or something) , tall and slim and good looking. one of the best looking girls of the evening. she agreed to kissing before we went to the room. then in the room she said it would be 50eur extra for that. disaster. i should have leftthe room then and refused to pay anything for that kind of business practice. but i let myself be talked into the 100 eur. session was ok, but not worth the 100 eur. i have had much better sessions with better looking girls in other clubs for half the price.

isa, (russian) blonde, slim below average height, cute face, again one of the best looking girls. isa was at least honest and gave the full price up front for kissing included before we went to any room. she was not willing to go down in price really. we haggled for a while and i was getting so annoyed that i got up to leave. in the end we ended up with that i could pay 100 eur for gfe and do a cim if i liked it or not included. i consider cim as a plan b if i cannot cum by normal sex. isa did a quite good session though and the cim was not necessary- had it been 50 eur normal pricing i would have given her a good tip. but not 50 eur.

i was not impressed about the general lineup either by the way. in all of the nrw clubs (except acapulco) there would always be at least on complete stunner. i did not see that here.

i was really annoyed by this haggling and bad deals so i wanted to go home after that. i watched a few girls strip shows though first.

to complete the evenings insult one of the previous strippers (hot body) and her big hog of a friend suddenly graped me and pulled me along saying that i had to come and see something. the big hog had quite a grip and i would have had to resort to some sort of physical violence to get loose, so i let myself be dragged along. then we were in a room suddenly and i kind of gathered whatever they wanted to show me would cost a lot of money, and i certainly did not want a duo with a hog involved. i strongly said no and started to leave. the fat hog put herself in the doorframe. i actually had to tell them to shut up and push myself out.

then i left. they do however have some feed back papers you can fill out. just before i left i wrote my anger down on one of them and put it in the box.

by the way the physical club facilities are very good.

but i am not coming back.

after having tried the nrw clubs then palace is way overpriced crappy hustling service in comparison.