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  1. #3863
    Quote Originally Posted by Tbuss  [View Original Post]
    They are the same girls as you will get in Colombia looks wise. Attitude wise, you are better off in Colombia as a lot of the ones in Panama have been spoiled by high-paying, tip-giving, western-union sending American and European guys. The girls have formed a kind of quasi-union where they demand the hugely inflated prices. Enough guys pay it where they are able to maintain it. It is unfortunate and makes it necessary to negotiate very hard and be willing to let a few girls who won't come down off their high price walk away.

    The other unfortunate side effect of this dynamic is that a lot of the girls have turned into complete mercenaries and its getting harder and harder to find girls that are warm, affectionate and fun-loving.
    This is spot on 100 percent accurate.

  2. #3862
    Going to Veneto Nov 19 wondering, how it is that time of year going to party with the ladys? My friend likes party drugs do we ask the girls for that kinda stuff or taxi?

    Thanks if anybody can help.

  3. #3861
    Quote Originally Posted by Tbuss  [View Original Post]
    If enough of the guys who overpay, tip, buy gifts and send western-unions go, the place will no longer be low-cost and fun. The whole country has basically been ruined by this dynamic, there are only a very few places left that haven't been contaminated.
    You will find these types increasingly in every mongering destination world-wide. Hopefully, those that don't want to fall subject to this effect are figuring out ways to prosper in this environment. There are few hidden gems anymore.

  4. #3860
    Quote Originally Posted by RubberGears  [View Original Post]
    There is absolutely no reason be to scaring people off from the fun and low cost adventures that can be had in these places.
    There is a very good reason to scare people off and it is an unfortunate one. If enough of the guys who overpay, tip, buy gifts and send western-unions go, the place will no longer be low-cost and fun. The whole country has basically been ruined by this dynamic, there are only a very few places left that haven't been contaminated.

  5. #3859
    Quote Originally Posted by YG365  [View Original Post]
    What up fellas,

    I'm flying out to Colombia in a couple of months and thought I'd spend a few nights in Panama to experience something different. It sounded like a really good idea with pretty good, name brand hotels being very affordable and offering tons of gambling, food and drinks. As I kept reading I learned it's pretty much all about Habanos, Venetos and the massage parlors.

    As I started reading about pricing, it amazed me how expensive it is here. It seems like for an hour or two, it's between $100-$200? Is the service, looks, attitude really worth it? I'm confused.

    Help me,

    YG
    They are the same girls as you will get in Colombia looks wise. Attitude wise, you are better off in Colombia as a lot of the ones in Panama have been spoiled by high-paying, tip-giving, western-union sending American and European guys. The girls have formed a kind of quasi-union where they demand the hugely inflated prices. Enough guys pay it where they are able to maintain it. It is unfortunate and makes it necessary to negotiate very hard and be willing to let a few girls who won't come down off their high price walk away.

    The other unfortunate side effect of this dynamic is that a lot of the girls have turned into complete mercenaries and its getting harder and harder to find girls that are warm, affectionate and fun-loving.

  6. #3858
    What up fellas,

    I'm flying out to Colombia in a couple of months and thought I'd spend a few nights in Panama to experience something different. It sounded like a really good idea with pretty good, name brand hotels being very affordable and offering tons of gambling, food and drinks. As I kept reading I learned it's pretty much all about Habanos, Venetos and the massage parlors.

    As I started reading about pricing, it amazed me how expensive it is here. It seems like for an hour or two, it's between $100-$200? Is the service, looks, attitude really worth it? I'm confused.

    Help me,

    YG

  7. #3857
    Add to the bad information the idea that La Mayor and it's neighbor, Boca, are in a "dangerous area." The block where La Mayor and Boca are located is as safe as Las Vegas Boulevard. Traffic, taxis, people, vendors, all the time. Frequent cops. Venturing up the side streets in the area is, however, a completely separate proposition.

    There is absolutely no reason be to scaring people off from the fun and low cost adventures that can be had in these places.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dirty Pirate  [View Original Post]
    Where do you guys come up with this stuff? This is bad information.

    Guys you'll come across plenty of taxis with tinted windows and loud shitty reggaeton music blasting. You will not be in danger, you will be inside of a taxi in Panama. As always negotiate the price on any taxi before getting in.

  8. #3856
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas  [View Original Post]
    DON'T get in a taxi with tinted windows. You'll get robbed or worse.
    Where do you guys come up with this stuff? This is bad information.

    Guys you'll come across plenty of taxis with tinted windows and loud shitty reggaeton music blasting. You will not be in danger, you will be inside of a taxi in Panama. As always negotiate the price on any taxi before getting in.

  9. #3855

    Return weekend to Panama City

    Returned to Panama City after spending the week in Bocas. Picked up girls out of Habanos again both Friday and Saturday night. All of the cute ones are Colombian-and many to choose from. I did duos both nights-paid each girl $100-which was bit on the low side-but I was paying for two of them. Best time was Saturday I really liked this busty chick Joanna from Medelllin. Only negative was CBJ-not BBBJ. These girls did not speak much English-so it is much much better if you speak a little Spanish.

    When we first arrived at Habanos about 9:30-rather dead-had been raining. But by 11:00, the place was packed. My buddy hooked up again with Andrea a cute English speaking Columbian-$150 for him. We stayed at Torres de Alba no charge to bring the girls up to the room and no hassle. Torres de Alba is a good choice-virtually across the street from Veneto-10 minute walk to Habanos. I recommend Pomodoro restaurant doesn't look like much from the outside, but there is a very nice interior patio and the wine bar has a nice selection. As you walk out of Torres de Alba, turn left and it is on the corner, within sight of the Veneto. There are lots of choices in the Veneto as well I just preferred the setup in Habanos.

    Also, Veneto has a decent sports book with a ton of monitors-so we were able to watch College Football games on Saturday afternoon and early evening. I wish I could head back to Panama tomorrow-but alas-must wait till next year. Bocas del Toro makes for a nice side trip for those interested in something different-45 minute flight-beautiful beaches-very inexpensive and decent bars and restaurants.

  10. #3854

    3 days in Panama City: FISH MARKET. La Mayor

    Had to venture over to La Mayor to get the "real experience" of a local. Out of town fisherman, etc. All I can say is that this place makes Tijuana look like a 3 Star Resort. It's in a dangerous area on the border of the "secure area" so be EXTRA careful, and DON'T get in a taxi with tinted windows. You'll get robbed or worse. Walked in to a very full bar, with locals buying $2 beers and girls with bikini tops walking around. $25 will get you about 15 minutes in the dingy back rooms, where you can hear many others right outside your door. Columbian girl, about a 7. 5, with a decent body, but with only 15 mins to spare and no "warm up" time, you need to be really horny, hard, and ready to plow her. We go into the room, she immediately gets naked, and expects you to perform. I don't know about most of you, but Junior doesn't get hard just by telling him to. So she tried starting a BJ, but with all the noise it was tough to concentrate. After 5 mins I was chubbing up a little so she just stuck it in her and went to work f'ing me. Oh well. It was an experience and I was happy to get back to my hotel alive with all my $$$.

  11. #3853

    3 days in Panama City: MASSAGE Action

    Tried out Oasis massage next to Veneto. It was closed on Sunday, and only had 3 girls on Monday. All about a 6 or 7. Passed on this.

    Gold Fingers. Opens at 3:00 pm. Got there around 7:30 pm. Had about 7 girls. So so looking. #8 looked the best, but nothing extra special. $125 for 1 hour with 1 drink included, including massage & sex. New crop of girls come in at 8:00pm. Nightime shift might be better, but I decided to pass and move on to another.

    GOLDEN TIMES: GREAT PLACE! Opens at 7:30 pm. Basically 1 block away and across the street, a few doors down from Popeye's chicken. I was customer #1 and got the whole fresh lineup of girls to myself! Must have been about 15 girls to start. They seat you down in a nice clean room of massage chairs, then give you a memo paper and pen to keep track of the #'s of the girls you like. I narrowed it down to 4, then asked the manager to bring those 4 in again. Then I narrowed it down to 2. And picked #76. Gorgeous girl from Columbia. $115 for 1 hour massage, sex, and 1 drink! We headed upstairs, where the rooms are small, clean, BUT only have massage tables. Got a really nice massage from the topless beauty, then she got fully naked, wrapped my tool, got on top of me on the massage table, and rode me like a bronco. We switched positions and I finished up mish style. All in all, highly recommended!

  12. #3852

    3 days in Panama City: CASINO / HOTEL Bar

    VENETO. Stayed at the Veneto and the bar was full of chicas. A big assortment of sizes, shapes (ass & boobs) , ages, personalities, hair color and nationalities. Starts early but fills up more and more the later it gets. Pulled 3 different girls. One each from Panama, Columbia, and Peru. All were fabulous, although BBBJ is a bit difficult to arrange. One did it for a bigger tip. All had beautiful, hard bodies! I met this 10 from Columbia, young, pretty, etc. Started talking to her at my table, had a drink together, etc. Then when I asked her how much, she said usually I get $250 for the hour, but "for you", only $150. I thought she would come down even more, but she stuck to that price and wouldn't lower it. When she saw that I wasn't biting, she said "bye" and walked away. This was the first girl I talked to, and from reading prior posts here I thought they would go from $100 to $80, but that's rare. I let this beauty get away, but as you all know, there's more "fish in the bar (sea)".

    Food was good and cheap, but mixed drinks $5. $6. I ate many meals at Manalo across the street, which was great. And the Greek place has awesoome Lamb Gyros too!

  13. #3851

    Hard Rock

    Ok to bring Girls back to HR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Charon  [View Original Post]
    I come to Panama frequently and usually stay at the Hard Rock. I know I've seen girls working in there but does anyone know if I'll get hassled bringing one back from the Venetto or anything? Also, any know where the girls working there might hang out? I'm thinking Bling or one of the other bars.

    Thanks

  14. #3850

    Hard Rock

    Did you find out if chicas are allowed back to your room at the HR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Charon  [View Original Post]
    I come to Panama frequently and usually stay at the Hard Rock. I know I've seen girls working in there but does anyone know if I'll get hassled bringing one back from the Venetto or anything? Also, any know where the girls working there might hang out? I'm thinking Bling or one of the other bars.

    Thanks

  15. #3849

    Other things to do with your girl (s)

    First, a little intro. I've been playing the game for some years in the US, Latin America and Europe. New name here as I haven't posted for a long time and the old one disappeared. I prefer the regular and steady to the thrill of the chase. I'm also unencumbered of relationships at home and self-employed so my options are wider than many. I have a working girl in Panama City who I see every 5-6 weeks for a long weekend. A mutually beneficial relationship, if you will. I am lucky enough to have a (bilingual Gringo) friend who lets us stay at his large apartment near the Calle Uruguay area. I've been to most of the Panama City hunting grounds but I'm not Dudley searching for my Bo so I can't tell you the hot spots for chicas this week. Where I may be able to help others is with what to do with a girl when you're spending more than just a quality hour in your hotel room.

    El Rinconcito Colombiano on Calle 50 is a large bar / club / restaurant that's the hangout of many Colombianas, working or not. It is the place to be when Colombia is playing. I was there for the Chile game last week and raucous doesn't begin to describe the atmosphere. Fridays are usually a DJ with Colombian bands often on Saturdays. Weeknights are pretty quiet when there isn't a game. Many regular and working girls. But the working girls hang out with friends or are here on dates, not looking for them. You can meet regular girls here if you're fluent, my friend met one and went out with her later last week. Buy a yellow team shirt beforehand if you go to a game.

    The strip center just toward the downtown area from Rinconcito has a dance club that's also supposed to be Colombian. Haven't been but it's supposed to be good and will report if I go.

    Onza Steakhouse is at Calle 53 why Ricardo Arango (Antiguo Snob Shop) in Obarrio. It's a few blocks from Habanos but easy walking. Good food, very good service and there's an equally good French restaurant upstairs. Lots of business people spending company money and affluent Panamanians. Dinner for four with a few drinks has run a hair under $150.

    Across the street from Onza is a brand new Holiday Inn Express that is just opening now. I know nothing about it except that it's brand new and a couple blocks from Habanos.

    In the Calle Uruguay area, we ate at Market, on Calle 48 Este (of Calle Uruguay) last weekend. Hilarious Spanglish menu with salads to burgers to steaks. American baseball on TV. This is somewhere to go for a decent dinner before hitting the nightclubs in the area. Significantly cheaper than Onza.

    I've been to Rosa Mexicano on Calle 47 Este a number of times. Upscale and not cheap but a nice place with very good food and widely spaced tables for private conversations. Same cost as Onza.

    Next door to Rosa is Starlight Karaoke. DJ and dance music between karaoke sessions and then dancing after midnight or so. None of the girls we've been with will get up to sing alone but they love to sing along with others.

    My friend and I have been the only noticeable Gringos in all of these places so don't expect the staffs to speak much English.

    When your chica wants you to take her to Multi Plaza / Center for a little shopping, make her take you to the closed-to-vehicles part of Avenue Central. MultiPlaza and MultiCenter (and Albrook) are where people with money shop. Avenue Central is where those without it go. Let her drag you down the street bargain hunting while you look at all the other women. Near some unsavory areas but completely safe during the day.

    If you need something to do on a Sunday afternoon during an extended refractory period, check out the old town area. Touristy, but still cool with the oldest buildings and views over the water. Lots of places to eat and drink.

    To avoid AT&T's outrageous rates I bought an $80 no-name Android on the Digicel system. All of the little cell phone shops will have them or something similar. A $10 card takes care of voice and data for the weekend and I was ahead of AT&T on cost after the first trip. Note that data service must be arranged separately after you enter the card. Connect to wifi and download the offline Spanish file for Google Translate. Girls seen to prefer Blackberrys because they all text like demons and they like the physical keys. But they're all also on WhatsApp and that's what I use to communicate with my girl in Panama and at home. Note that when a girl wants to talk, she'll text you and ask you to call her. This is normal as the caller pays and the receiver talks for free.

    Finally, never get into a taxi without first negotiating the fare through the window. 100% guarantee of a metaphorical ride if you don't, especially late at night. Your girl will probably do this for you as a matter of habit and she'll know the proper fares.

    I thoroughly enjoy Panama City. I call it 'Latin America Lite. ' Almost all the flavor of 'real' Latin America but with a lot fewer quirks and annoyances. Will report more as I learn it.

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