Panama City

[El Moreno 92]

Never had an issue. I highly recommend it in Panama. Only a handful of hotels without a chica fee. Just be cautious if it seems like the Airbnb owner is also living in the same building or the next door apt. Also, I try to avoid the ones who have a security guard at the door. However, as long as your not throwing wild parties or attracting unwanted attention it is almost never a problem.

Cool. I just rented one in the CAMPO ALGERE area close to downtown.

We'll see how it goes. I will post a trip / chica report after the trip (April).

[Mfins]

I am seeing the posts regarding certain hotels and a chica fee.

Have anyone rented an Airbnb in Panama City?

I normally rent those in the places I've been (Medellin, Bogota, Santo Domingo DR, San Jose CR, Lima, Pattaya, Angeles City & Makati and never have issues with bringing girls back to the pad.

I am curious if anyone has done the same in Panama City.

Never had an issue. I highly recommend it in Panama. Only a handful of hotels without a chica fee. Just be cautious if it seems like the Airbnb owner is also living in the same building or the next door apt. Also, I try to avoid the ones who have a security guard at the door. However, as long as your not throwing wild parties or attracting unwanted attention it is almost never a problem.

[El Moreno 92]

I am seeing the posts regarding certain hotels and a chica fee.

Have anyone rented an Airbnb in Panama City?

I normally rent those in the places I've been (Medellin, Bogota, Santo Domingo DR, San Jose CR, Lima, Pattaya, Angeles City & Makati and never have issues with bringing girls back to the pad.

I am curious if anyone has done the same in Panama City.

[NudePilot]

I had to head back to the states for a few days of work, and on my return I got another great massage. There's a woman advertising Masaje de Lluvia (rain massage) on Skokka and her apartment is located just down the street, so I bit. The apartment is located in the Bay View apartment building. It's the uniquely designed, but nice, building on the edge of Calidonia next to Plaza 5 de Mayo. The apartment unit itself is very nice, divided into at least two massage rooms that are very well appointed, clean, and cool. My masseuse was named Louise and although a tiny bit thicker than I would normally go for (I like them thin and athletic) she carried it well. I was able to verify this because we were both quite nude throughout the session. And she's not shy. Showered before we started, laid down on the massage bed, and off we went. The massage was actually quite good, and she used her naked body extensively on mine. When it came to the flip she slithered and crawled all over me making sure I was hard and ready. She oiled up my hands and gave me complete access to her body which she seemed to enjoy. I know I did. Afterwards we showered together, she gave me a steam bath, and exfoliation which was nice. It wasn't cheap as I opted for what is called the Super Especial. The details of which will be sent to you via whasapp when you contact her. She is a sweet woman with a lovely body, and I very well may repeat. I've seen Louisa a couple of times already, and the experience was better the second time, which makes me wonder about this young lady. I may have to see just what is on the menu for a repeat visit. Cheers!

[PussyRiot]

Stayed at Eurostars. Amazing value even without the location, but it's really nice not to have to worry about cleanliness etc. I used the entrance on the left through the adjoining casino. Forgot to tip but the doorman didn't hold the door most times. Last time he did so I gave him a fiver. Problem is if you tell people you're staying there, as a single guy (like when I got dropped off from a tour), the driver will tell everyone about what kind of place it is and what you're doing there. I spoke more Spanish than people realized so I heard, but I didn't bother. I also liked the proximity to the giant supermarket and some decent restaurants.

That was no chica fee with Eurostars??

Last few recent reports suggested that they even take a photo from Casino elevator and show at the check out.

[Trillian]

Anyone have current online, WhatsApp, etc, recommendations for guys who hate the Habanos type of scene? I know about the Skokka, Wanuncios and SexyHotPanama sites but it seems like there are a lot of fakes.

Unfortunately I got none. I did many online ads because I thought I'd save the time and not have to stay up so late. Problem is they always take hours to arrive (have clients to satisfy I guess) even when they said they're free now, so it always is a wash. Besides, the pictures are always way better than the real thing.

Went to Habanos twice. I couldn't go upstairs like everyone said. Don't now what that's about--thought there's a patio upstairs. Or is that just the patio looking onto the street? Upstairs was a bar with pool table but they acted like I walked in on a drug deal or something. If service is all you want they were almost all very conscientious (online ads included). Never seem to judge and always trying to make me happy. Always ask for the moon but if you hold firm on $100 and are nice they usually bite. If I ever go back I'd just stick to Habanos just because you get to see what you get. Listen to the pros and go for the ones that catch your eyes, not the other way around.

Stayed at Eurostars. Amazing value even without the location, but it's really nice not to have to worry about cleanliness etc. I used the entrance on the left through the adjoining casino. Forgot to tip but the doorman didn't hold the door most times. Last time he did so I gave him a fiver. Problem is if you tell people you're staying there, as a single guy (like when I got dropped off from a tour), the driver will tell everyone about what kind of place it is and what you're doing there. I spoke more Spanish than people realized so I heard, but I didn't bother. I also liked the proximity to the giant supermarket and some decent restaurants.

If you want to save, Marparaiso is very basic, but clean. Like no shampoo basic. But bed was very comfy. Have your spanish translator ready.

I checked out the Marriott casino. You have to approach in the open. Quality not up to par with Habanos, but then what is?

[JL Miami]

Anyone have current online, WhatsApp, etc, recommendations for guys who hate the Habanos type of scene? I know about the Skokka, Wanuncios and SexyHotPanama sites but it seems like there are a lot of fakes.

On a related note, anyone have any experience with Isa, Valentina, or Maria Angel from today's ads on Skokka?

PMs are fine, if preferred. I'll try to return the favor as my time in Panama continues. Thanks.

[Doker44]

You're comparing apples and oranges. LDV in Cartagena is a freelancer bar. You negotiate either your best price or your best value in either services or time. I'm had girls out of there for $100 for the entire night. (although that's not the norm) It all depends on you and the girl. The girl does whatever and the only time crunch that exists is the one she puts on it. The Gruta Azul is not a freelancer bar. It's a screw-by-time bar where you pay for 15 minute increments for sex on site in club provided rooms. If all you want is a quick in and out then it's cheap and easy, but you're on a clock to the second in there. The girl works in the club and the club controls the rooms, so she is not a freelancer and can't be free with her time. To answer your question about how they make money the answer is "volume!". I spoke to a girl in the Bocatorena who told me that although she used to work in Habanos that she wasn't always guaranteed to make to make coin there, but in the Boca, which is another screw by time increments place, she always had cash coming in. Again, I would point out that all of the girls in these clubs that I talked to indicated that they'd be available off site, so there's a whole other new set of negotiating possibilities for you. I was getting quotes of $70-80/ HR typically as a starting point.

Having said all of that, there are freelance spots in Panama too, like Habanos, Alejandros, some girls in The Red Lion and some in the discos, although that seems to be falling out of vogue. This is what you should be comparing the LDV to, and again it comes down to what you can negotiate, either price, time or services, understanding that most of these girls are colombians or venezuelans too.

Hope that helps a little.

Thanks so much for the reply. Thats a lot of volume in Panama to make up for the freelance prices, and I am guessing the house gets part of the 15 minute price also. I thought that maybe that is what it was but couldn't believe the volume could be that much to make up for the high prices in freelance bars.

Unfortunately I have been doing this for a long, long time in different parts of the world so I know what the deal is but I know a real nice farm girl that I meet in CRT, you know that 1% you rarely run across, that I wifed up with that went to Gruta Azul for the first time and is there now and wants to meet up again. Don't want to waste time and money on just another hard business like girl that are a dime a dozen which I am afraid Azul would of probably changed her into if the volume is that crazy. Thanks for the tip so much of this site especially in other forums has turned to complete garbage, info you provided is what the site should be about!

[Talion]

Experience 3. Luisa. You can search for her name in the Skokka listings and you 'LOL find her with an advertisement for a Nuru massage. The woman in the pictures isn't her, but once you see her you won't care. She's a sweetheart with a killer body. The massage is conducted on a wide, sturdy massage table in a darkened room lit by several candles. She gives a great massage with her strong hands, elbows, knees and feet. And the sensation of her body on yours is one you won't forget. I hesitated in sharing, but she is just too lovely to keep to myself. Her location is in Cangrejo, and easy to find. The Happy Ending is good (I've had better, but not in Panama) and she is just a joy to talk to. By the way, if you follow my reports you'll notice that I am not out experiencing the night life here in Panama. I just don't have that sort of freedom this year. Plus, I've done the whole Habanos, Gruta Azul, Capri, LE Palace thing in the past and, while all of that is fun, I'm okay with missing out this year. I'm out for daytime experiences and so far it's been sort of hit and miss. But Luisa is definitely a hit. Go see her.

Yeah, Luisa is a keeper. Her he gets better as you go along too, and she also seems to have a couple of girls that hang out in the kitchen, one of which is really cute, but I'm not sure if she's on the menu or not.

[NudePilot]

Experience 4. "Nuru" massage in Obarrio. The location is the obarrio 60 building near Via Brasil. It's Sunday and although I've contacted several women, I'm just not getting much in the way of response. I get it- it's Sunday and everyone deserves a day off. Finally one responds and we make arrangements and I taxi my ass over. The building is an office building with rooms and businesses-I'm not sure how comfortable I'the be walking in during the week. On the 10th floor where the massage parlor is located there are several other businesses Might get a little awkward. Anyhow, when I called they only had one girl available and her pictures were only okay, but like I said, it's Sunday. The woman who opened the door was the woman in the picture and, again, was just okay. The massage room was small, the table-very small, and the massage wasn't great by any stretch of the imagination. I was kicking myself all the way through for not going back to Luisa. The Happy Ending wasn't all that happy, maybe you could call it mildly amusing. Anyhow, I won't be back. I'll have to maybe go to a sure-thing next time.

[NudePilot]

Experience 3. Luisa. You can search for her name in the Skokka listings and you 'LOL find her with an advertisement for a Nuru massage. The woman in the pictures isn't her, but once you see her you won't care. She's a sweetheart with a killer body. The massage is conducted on a wide, sturdy massage table in a darkened room lit by several candles. She gives a great massage with her strong hands, elbows, knees and feet. And the sensation of her body on yours is one you won't forget. I hesitated in sharing, but she is just too lovely to keep to myself. Her location is in Cangrejo, and easy to find. The Happy Ending is good (I've had better, but not in Panama) and she is just a joy to talk to. By the way, if you follow my reports you'll notice that I am not out experiencing the night life here in Panama. I just don't have that sort of freedom this year. Plus, I've done the whole Habanos, Gruta Azul, Capri, LE Palace thing in the past and, while all of that is fun, I'm okay with missing out this year. I'm out for daytime experiences and so far it's been sort of hit and miss. But Luisa is definitely a hit. Go see her.

[Talion]

Hello everyone, I don't post much anymore because most has already been said many times but I do have a question I am hoping someone can help me understand.

I met a few girls in Cartagena in places such as Dolce Vita. Cartagena sucks IMO especially those bars but that's another story.

They all go to Panama for between 1 and 3 months and go to places such as la nueva gruta azul. The girls in Dolce Vita and other clubs are getting at least 100 and probably 150 on average and probably really hit a homerun on some of those idiots that get off those cruise ships.

How much is la nueva gruta azul? I don't understand how can they be making more money Panama? Are they really able to make more money or is it just some BS math in their head.

I would like to visit Panama but not if performance is anything like Cartagena and cost more.

Thanks everyone.

You're comparing apples and oranges. LDV in Cartagena is a freelancer bar. You negotiate either your best price or your best value in either services or time. I'm had girls out of there for $100 for the entire night. (although that's not the norm) It all depends on you and the girl. The girl does whatever and the only time crunch that exists is the one she puts on it. The Gruta Azul is not a freelancer bar. It's a screw-by-time bar where you pay for 15 minute increments for sex on site in club provided rooms. If all you want is a quick in and out then it's cheap and easy, but you're on a clock to the second in there. The girl works in the club and the club controls the rooms, so she is not a freelancer and can't be free with her time. To answer your question about how they make money the answer is "volume!". I spoke to a girl in the Bocatorena who told me that although she used to work in Habanos that she wasn't always guaranteed to make to make coin there, but in the Boca, which is another screw by time increments place, she always had cash coming in. Again, I would point out that all of the girls in these clubs that I talked to indicated that they'd be available off site, so there's a whole other new set of negotiating possibilities for you. I was getting quotes of $70-80/ HR typically as a starting point.

Having said all of that, there are freelance spots in Panama too, like Habanos, Alejandros, some girls in The Red Lion and some in the discos, although that seems to be falling out of vogue. This is what you should be comparing the LDV to, and again it comes down to what you can negotiate, either price, time or services, understanding that most of these girls are colombians or venezuelans too.

Hope that helps a little.

[Doker44]

Hello everyone, I don't post much anymore because most has already been said many times but I do have a question I am hoping someone can help me understand.

I met a few girls in Cartagena in places such as Dolce Vita. Cartagena sucks IMO especially those bars but that's another story.

They all go to Panama for between 1 and 3 months and go to places such as la nueva gruta azul. The girls in Dolce Vita and other clubs are getting at least 100 and probably 150 on average and probably really hit a homerun on some of those idiots that get off those cruise ships.

How much is la nueva gruta azul? I don't understand how can they be making more money Panama? Are they really able to make more money or is it just some BS math in their head.

I would like to visit Panama but not if performance is anything like Cartagena and cost more.

Thanks everyone.

[NudePilot]

Experience 2. I decided to take chance and I made an appointment with a sexologist that I found advertising in Skokka. Her claim to fame is that it's "much more than a massage". In her advertisement she says she's 49, and I have to admit that every once in a while I like to try an older woman (I'm 52, so by older I mean. Not 20). We arrange a time and I head to her place near plaza 5 de Mayo. I wouldn't go there alone at night and I'm pretty bold. Also, as a side note, the 5 de Mayo plaza has nothing to do with the Mexican holiday and everything to do with a munitions building explosion in 1914. Anyhow, I digress. I get to the room and the door is opened by a woman who was indeed 49. Back when Bush senior was president I still had hair. I thought about turning around and leaving, but I just can't do that to a woman. Plus, I knew immediately that I wouldn't be having sex with her. In I went. We chatted while I got undressed and as I lay naked on the bed I prayed she'the keep her clothes on. Alas, it was in vain as she stripped down to her granny-panties and climb on the bed with me. Her massage was actually pretty good and she gave near constant attention to the pole and tackle while I was face down. On the flip she did her duty and with some extreme eyes-closed fantasizing she was able to milk every bit of what I had out of me. Listen, she is a very nice lady, but I will not be back. I just can't get past her age and her body.

[NudePilot]

I'll be spending six weeks down here this year and will attempt to report on my experiences here. First up, I headed over to Relax Oriental, I've spent years bouncing around the Via Argentina area and have always been curious about, but never sampled, this place. It's as previously described: not-great. The front lobby has a little sofa (covered in scantily dressed women) and a couple of chairs, in one of which sat the owner. I paid my $60 bucks and chose a thin blonde. Back to the room we went. She was enthusiastic, but seemed a bit too much in a hurry. Looks wise I'd give her a 6 and for her skills, maybe a 6 as well, but only because she gave a super BBBJ. I'll will probably not go back.