Panama City

[Thayerst]

Not sure if this is the right area to post, so apologies if it is. I got back from Colombia three weeks ago, mainly in Cartagena but also Bogota. Wanted to get some advice on Panama as I'm about 80% certain I'm going start of September with the other option being Spain. So my questions are basically, how does Panama City compare with Cartagena in terms of quality of girls? My thinking is that many of the better Colombians will head to Panama as they make more money, it's more discrete and it seems Panama has the added advantage of Venezuelans. I found some good girls in Cartagena, who also have seemed to pop on escort websites in Panama I've noticed. If Spain is another option where would I go? Barcelona? I don't like brothels and prefer escorts to come to my hotel room. Would Spain be considerably more expensive? I also have a big thing for girls with fake breasts which the Colombians seem to have so maybe Panama is good for me?

What is my best option in terms of girls? Using an escort service like vipinpanama or mypanamaescorts or going to Habanos? I prefer to book a girl for a few hours, have her party with me in the room, and tend to want to do this earlier. I've been quoted about 150 an hour and 500 all night by the escort agencies, is it true that the same girls are at Habanos, and therefore can cut out the middle man and get them cheaper? Just asking as it seems that some of those girls seem way too hot to be in a bar looking for clients, or are many of the photos of the girls listed on those sites extremely airbrushed or fake? I don't like to waste my money on girls and maybe have unrealistic expectations but only go for quality and don't mind paying a little extra. Of course, the best option I found in Cartagena was to just get the girl from the agency to give you her number and then she will come next day for cheaper and also bring her friends.

Also, where would be the best places to stay? Many here mention the Hyatt but I was looking at some of the prices at the Waldorf Astoria and they appeal as they're not too expensive relative to other Waldorf's around the world and have heard they are girl friendly, does anyone know? The rooms also have balconies some of them which seems a plus. Otherwise, Sortis comes recommended as girl friendly and Trump I've been told a no. One other option I thought is to maybe go for a cheaper hotel and get a suite, does anyone know of any hotels with large suites and balconies perhaps? Thinking that larger rooms are good for partying with the girl (or maybe 2 or 3 like I did in Cartagena).

I guess it seems to me that anything I can do in Cartagena, I can do in Panama but with more expensive pricing? I don't mind paying say 800-1000 a day including hotel for a good time, and let loose. Let me know if this is incorrect.

[Kosher Kowboy]

$My going rate for a 9 or 10 is $120 or less.

That's what I am going to offer them too, pretty much like last time. Was always 120 or 100 w a 20 tip. This time will try to get out of the 20 due to the Hyatt Fee. Did you ever get in to BBBJ or CBJ discussions?

You would like Spain, I got a few reviews there, feel free to PM me if you have any Spain questions.

[Trifecta68]

Great news on the food, last time I went in my review I trashed the buffet and some others agreed and asked me to write the manager. Perhaps all the e-mails from mongers who wanted a better quality buffet got thru to them or maybe it was part of their ' upgrade' in service to improve the food and add a chica fee. Either way, I too have crap to do during the day and will steal lunch fro mthe buffet as you did, make a few sandwhiches to go and fruits and put them in the backpack for the day...

Good report and thanks for sharing your experience. It's always nice to get a trip in the books and start planning the next. Guess Hyatt bound visitors can save some of that $15 chica fee and recoup it by not taking a taxi and instead the bus and pocket close to 3-4 nights chica fees by taking the bus.

Habanos sounds great still and like the tip to start in the cigar bar, experienced the same myself. Sounds like you had some negotiations perhaps pre entered on the mobile device; any chance you might be able to give us some updates on the negotiations starting and ending points? I am curious if you care to share here or PM what they started at per the hour and what they settled at. Also, were the dates BBBJ or CBJ and care to eleborate if that was part of negotiations. ..

Kosher,

Great minds think alike. Your mention of Spain has got me thinking of Europe or even Cartagena for new grounds but Panama is so dialed in for me and the quality of Chicas, safety, infrastructure and dollar make it so difficult to start new somewhere else. Regarding my interview process, I am extremely picky and only go for 9 or 10's. Habanos has them. Veneto for me is the see team. Club Asche late would be my back up plan be. My exception to the rule on a 7 or 8 would be if the chica can translate and assist me with other women. This normally ends up in at least one threesome per trip. I use 4 metrics for chica selection that I have on my I Phone translated in Spanish. #1 How long have they been coming to Panama and how long on this particular Visa stay? If they have anything more than 1 year; and or 5 weeks on particular trip, unless they are a straight up Diamond, red flag for me. Too many miles. #2 if the Chica is covering her stomach with clothing and has a child or won't answer the question; I pass. #3- I request 90 minutes, (no less) No Smokers, DFK, massage and the obvious. $My going rate for a 9 or 10 is $120 or less. (The avg Colombiana back home makes less than $1000 per month if their educated). In Venezuela, DR, Peru, etc it's far less. Which reminds I dated for the first time a stunner from Peru. She was ravishing. According to her it was her second week at Habanos. #4 $60 up front. $60 at completion. No games / non negotiable. That's it! Straight forward and pre loaded on my phone. After they agree, which 90% do I'll offer a drink, flirt, fondle and always walk back to Hyatt, Bristol, Continental, etc. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[Kosher Kowboy]

Fantastic Panama City trip in the books.

They added an omelette station along with fresh fruit, juice, deli meat and cheeses. I made a few sandwiches to go and that tied me over until dinner. Great value. No shelling out cash for breakfast or lunch. Save $$.

Now for the best part. Habanos was absolutely packed every night with nuggets from all over central and South America. Hot steamy nights has the girls ready to act quick and get out of the sauna at Habanos and into your AC Penthouse or Suite. Be sure to negotiate but be respectful. I began my nights next door in the small cigar bar (cute dark Panamanian Erica is the mgr & sweet Venezuelan Katherine is her waitress) adjacent to Habanos.

Great news on the food, last time I went in my review I trashed the buffet and some others agreed and asked me to write the manager. Perhaps all the e-mails from mongers who wanted a better quality buffet got thru to them or maybe it was part of their ' upgrade' in service to improve the food and add a chica fee. Either way, I too have crap to do during the day and will steal lunch fro mthe buffet as you did, make a few sandwhiches to go and fruits and put them in the backpack for the day...

Good report and thanks for sharing your experience. It's always nice to get a trip in the books and start planning the next. Guess Hyatt bound visitors can save some of that $15 chica fee and recoup it by not taking a taxi and instead the bus and pocket close to 3-4 nights chica fees by taking the bus.

Habanos sounds great still and like the tip to start in the cigar bar, experienced the same myself. Sounds like you had some negotiations perhaps pre entered on the mobile device; any chance you might be able to give us some updates on the negotiations starting and ending points? I am curious if you care to share here or PM what they started at per the hour and what they settled at. Also, were the dates BBBJ or CBJ and care to eleborate if that was part of negotiations.

I agree on that ' sauna'; need to take the girl out quick or gets too hot. I find at the Veneto the AC is on, food served at the bar and plenty of chicas last time I went. It was much more comfortable; however the selection at Habano's was much more and a tad better so I guess one plan could be to sit at Habanos if it gets too hot head to the AC of the Veneto cool off check out the selection there for any gems than head back to Habanos. I didn't go to the other casinos walking distance to the Hyatt maybe there is action there??

I really appreciate the ' MY Terms' on your final line, it sounds like you were able to bargain from a position of strength rather than weakness that way and I think it is a great tip (I will share with some of my fellow Spain mongers who speak no spanish) that tactic to employ at 2-3 particular places there as I think it is a great way to present a final offer and no matter what they say shove the mobil device back in their face until they accept.

Thanks for the well written report and tips. Tips that involve food and saving money, a complaint about the heat. I like how your mind works, esp getting maximum value from the buffet. And the firmness with the girls...

[ForceSteeler]

Hey,

Just landed in Panama if anybody wants updates DM me.

This is my first time, I'm going to check out the Scene, Later and give you my first impressions.

[KrisMonger]

Fantastic Panama City trip in the books. Hyatt Place was ground zero for me as I contemplated Hotel Milan at $40 a night but extremely loud with a new High rise being built next door. It's been well documented about the $15 Chica fee. Sucks but Hyatt still has great value. Walking distance to Habanos, Metro Subway, Hooters (and countless Via Argentine restaurants) Veneto, McDonalds & a brand new Wendy's (quick burger run) or even Hard Rock and Trump at Punta Pacifica. That is if your in good shape and don't mind dodging hundreds of insane drivers constantly honking their horns. Plus the breakfast buffet has improved. They added an omelette station along with fresh fruit, juice, deli meat and cheeses. I made a few sandwiches to go and that tied me over until dinner. Great value. No shelling out cash for breakfast or lunch. Save $$.

I arrived with no reservation and asked for a government rate. The clerks were great. I got a $70 rate for just asking and then showed my AAA Card. They didn't know the difference. Requested 18th floor and got it. Must be the rainy season. Save $$.

Now onto even more $avings! Forget the $50 cab ride round trip from the airport. You can do it for $2. 85 and put that savings toward your chica fees. Here's how. Follow the locals. After going through customs at Tocumen turn right after exiting the doors. You'll see one blue sign above. "Public Transportation". You'll be attacked by taxi drivers. Ignore them they want to rip you off. Stay on the sidewalk. There are no signs indicating this is a pedestrian walkway. You'll see a restaurant with a large orange sign. Chicken Port Restaurant. The sidewalk goes behind the restaurant and continues thru the back hallway and outside. Once you reach the end of the side walk (about a 4 minutes) you'll need to cross the street for the buses heading to the city. Two different buses use this route. I would recommend the large white air conditioned motor coach. They accept cash $1. 25. The city bus you need to use a bus card and they are not sold at the airport. You could ask a local to swipe theirs and reimburse them the $1.25. Either way be sure to get on the Tocumen corredor sur Bus. Once on the bus you can get dropped off anywhere on Avenida Balboa or go all the way to Allbrook Mall..

A few of my friends that went there over the last few weeks tell me that unless you have the guest registered during check-in, Hyatt has started charging 15 dollars per chica. This started on June 15th is what I am being told (I was there a week prior and I didn't get charged). Can you confirm if Hyatt is now indeed charging the 15 dollar fee?. I don't think it is a deal breaker -but just asking for this info from awareness perspective.

[Trifecta68]

Fantastic Panama City trip in the books. Hyatt Place was ground zero for me as I contemplated Hotel Milan at $40 a night but extremely loud with a new High rise being built next door. It's been well documented about the $15 Chica fee. Sucks but Hyatt still has great value. Walking distance to Habanos, Metro Subway, Hooters (and countless Via Argentine restaurants) Veneto, McDonalds & a brand new Wendy's (quick burger run) or even Hard Rock and Trump at Punta Pacifica. That is if your in good shape and don't mind dodging hundreds of insane drivers constantly honking their horns. Plus the breakfast buffet has improved. They added an omelette station along with fresh fruit, juice, deli meat and cheeses. I made a few sandwiches to go and that tied me over until dinner. Great value. No shelling out cash for breakfast or lunch. Save $$.

I arrived with no reservation and asked for a government rate. The clerks were great. I got a $70 rate for just asking and then showed my AAA Card. They didn't know the difference. Requested 18th floor and got it. Must be the rainy season. Save $$.

Now onto even more $avings! Forget the $50 cab ride round trip from the airport. You can do it for $2. 85 and put that savings toward your chica fees. Here's how. Follow the locals. After going through customs at Tocumen turn right after exiting the doors. You'll see one blue sign above. "Public Transportation". You'll be attacked by taxi drivers. Ignore them they want to rip you off. Stay on the sidewalk. There are no signs indicating this is a pedestrian walkway. You'll see a restaurant with a large orange sign. Chicken Port Restaurant. The sidewalk goes behind the restaurant and continues thru the back hallway and outside. Once you reach the end of the side walk (about a 4 minutes) you'll need to cross the street for the buses heading to the city. Two different buses use this route. I would recommend the large white air conditioned motor coach. They accept cash $1. 25. The city bus you need to use a bus card and they are not sold at the airport. You could ask a local to swipe theirs and reimburse them the $1.25. Either way be sure to get on the Tocumen corredor sur Bus. Once on the bus you can get dropped off anywhere on Avenida Balboa or go all the way to Allbrook Mall. I exited at Multicentro Mall and Ate lunch at Red Lion and walked to Hyatt with only a light shoulder bag. Taxi from the mall to Hyatt runs $4. Start to finish about 1 hour. Have confidence. If I succeeded you can too. The journey is the game. Returning back to the airport just hop on the metro subway (Iglesias Del Carmen) by Hyatt Place-It's 35 cents to Allbrook Mall. Exit (8 minute ride) and follow everyone to The National Bus Terminal. Once you arrive, you'll be a bit intimidated. It's Panamas version of Grand Central Station. Go straight to Platform E. Tocumen Corredor Sur. Buses leave every 15 minutes. You will need a prepaid bus card. Fare is $1.25 to the airport. So with subway and bus fare total is $1. 60 It took me about 1 hour from Hyatt Place to reach the airport. Yours could be shorter or longer. Traveling on the new subway or buses is easy and cost effective. You could Uber or take cabs but why? Save $$.

Now for the best part. Habanos was absolutely packed every night with nuggets from all over central and South America. Hot steamy nights has the girls ready to act quick and get out of the sauna at Habanos and into your AC Penthouse or Suite. The talent on display the last few nights was world class with stunners that exceeded Miss Universe or Playboy Standards. Believe when I say this. Do not doubt me. My eyes don't lie. Lots of college girls earning cash during summer break. Sure you may see a pooch or two but the first rounders outnumber them 10-1. The sad situation of violence and unrest in Venezuela has created a vacuum of beautiful women flooding into Panama. Be sure to negotiate but be respectful. I began my nights next door in the small cigar bar (cute dark Panamanian Erica is the mgr & sweet Venezuelan Katherine is her waitress) adjacent to Habanos. This way I was not hassled 100 times for drinks, company, cigarette, "where you from honey", etc. Very peaceful and the ice cold beers are a few bucks less. Once you see the beauty that interests you can walk over and pounce or invite them over. There is only a large old BBQ Grill permanently parked that separates the two businesses. Both work and keep you sane from the myriad of women trolling. Last and MOST important tip. Be sure to translate all of your requests upfront in Spanish unless of course your fluent. I had mine translated in advance on my phone ready to go and had 4 beauties during my stay agree to MY terms not theirs before we left. Hope these tips help. Enjoy.

[PanamaMuscle]

After the debauchery of the aforementioned night I took a day off.

Then the last night in town I gave Relax Oriental a try. No idea why Oriental is in the name by the way. The previous posts describe the access perfectly, in an oddly hidden mini mall off Via Argentina, a lovely leafy streety in a mature part of town filled with nice restaurants, cafes and pubs. Anyhow, the joint is total dump dive on the interior, like shit falling off the walls bad. When I walked in there was a little sitting area with a couple couches and the sweet 60 year old boss lady who ran the place along with 5 gals. 4 of which I just don't think I could have done really. That said you only need one and there was a pretty faced slender gal who was the one who spoke English. I immediately picked her. I worried in the 2 seconds before she got up that she'd be a wide ass but when she got off the couch but no such unlucky.

Slender little pooch, about 5'8", from Medellin, beautiful face and smile, was halfway through a 3 month stay in Panama. Limited English, great tan and toned body with perky natural boobs. $60 bucks but you get what you pay for in terms of environment. Agreed to tip her for BBBJ though she never said an amount then we sucked and fucked for 20 minutes or so until I shot my wad in her. Was a great fuck. Smiled the whole time. Then gave me another 20 minute or so massage why by the way I had the choice of having sex or massage first. I went for sex.

Got her number so maybe meet again some time. Said she was 24 but looked a lot younger. I tipped her $40 which I figured $20 for the BBBJ and $20 just being a nice guy, but all in $100 to fuck a legit 19-20 year old 8 with an A+ attitude and body was well worth it despite the god awful environment.

I'm headed back to Panama City for a second trip on Wednesday. I stayed at Coral Suites by the Veneto last time. This time using points at the Hilton Garden. Will make my virgin trip to Habanos. Looking forward to another good trip.

PM.

[TheGame05]

I may come to Panama City in November and was thinking to book Hyatt but now with $15 fee wonder if other hotels do not have a "guest fee" added.

If you book double occupancy room is there still a fee?

[Kosher Kowboy]

If any one has any recent reports on sessions here would love to hear about them here or in a PM if you prefer. I think the prices are like $15 maybe $20 plus another $10-$15 if need more time. Curious if anyone has tried to offer $5-$10 extra for BBBJ which would make a 30 min session w BBBJ at or under $30. In the crappy esteticas of Guadalajara few months ago they accepted $5-$10 US in pesos tips for BBBJ. Maybe the same at Boca?

I think via cabs it is a totally safe place to go just scraping the bottle of the barrel and kind of want to try it out this time. Also, what is the name of the third place think starts w a ' G' and has on site cheap fucking, any idea on prices there and number of hookers that stand around? Also if it is one of those loud venues like La Mayor ( was deafening in there only good thing was seeing pussy on stage) , will cross it off if so.

[Dave1027]

Hello and good afternoon fellow mongers,

So is there any hotels that do not charge chica fees in Panama City, Panama.

[YippieKayay]

This is no surprise. There was always a fee. Given how tourism in Panama is dead, and how there are tons of hotels, the Hyatt is trying to generate more revenue. At least they've full embraced their love motel roots. $15 is expensive given how it's almost 65,000 Colombian pesos. That gets you an hour in most Medellin brothels.

[Kosher Kowboy]

If you go to the hotel site directly they now have the hooker policy on the site albeit well written as if it is an Orlando resort. Pretty cut and dry, almost, the expression ' subject to adult pricing' leaves the door open to explain to the manager that the girl doing the walk of shame is your long lost 2nd cousin from Cali and you were just reunited and you are extremely upset they view her as a lady of the night as you feel their guest policy is to keep undesirables out and are extremely insulted they view your family member as such. Good luck explaining how in 7 days you were reunited with seven cousins. This is like the new German sex laws a bunch of BS except more enforceable than a BBBJ.

Please Note: Guests at this location are considered children between the ages of 0 and 12. Any guest 13 years of age or older will be considered an adult and will be subject to adult pricing. '.

[BusinessTrip]

After the debauchery of the aforementioned night I took a day off.

Then the last night in town I gave Relax Oriental a try. No idea why Oriental is in the name by the way. The previous posts describe the access perfectly, in an oddly hidden mini mall off Via Argentina, a lovely leafy streety in a mature part of town filled with nice restaurants, cafes and pubs. Anyhow, the joint is total dump dive on the interior, like shit falling off the walls bad. When I walked in there was a little sitting area with a couple couches and the sweet 60 year old boss lady who ran the place along with 5 gals. 4 of which I just don't think I could have done really. That said you only need one and there was a pretty faced slender gal who was the one who spoke English. I immediately picked her. I worried in the 2 seconds before she got up that she'd be a wide ass but when she got off the couch but no such unluck.

Slender little pooch, about 5'8", from Medellin, beautiful face and smile, was halfway through a 3 month stay in Panama. Limited English, great tan and toned body with perky natural boobs. $60 bucks but you get what you pay for in terms of environment. Agreed to tip her for BBBJ though she never said an amount then we sucked and fucked for 20 minutes or so until I shot my wad in her. Was a great fuck. Smiled the whole time. Then gave me another 20 minute or so massage why by the way I had the choice of having sex or massage first. I went for sex.

Got her number so maybe meet again some time. Said she was 24 but looked a lot younger. I tipped her $40 which I figured $20 for the BBBJ and $20 just being a nice guy, but all in $100 to fuck a legit 19-20 year old 8 with an A+ attitude and body was well worth it despite the god awful environment.

[BusinessTrip]

Next day I got the Colombian 9 and the friend the 7 over at the Trump after switching hotels. They got screened by a doorman at the hotel lobby and I had to reg them - $100/ each! Fortunately I had registered my room for 2 so I got the hotel check in folks to drop it to just 1 x $100. Still sucks. Service at this hotel is great otherwise. Kind of a bummer too because these girls weren't working at Habanos that night, just partying with me (P4P) so could have dressed it down it a bit but had "Colombian hookers" written all over them.

Had 3.5 hours of sex, screwing around and partying in the room followed by I took them to a nice dinner downstairs. Got more looks than I would have liked. Kind of funny these girls are really sweet and fun but boy, the judgement level isn't the highest at times. Ordering random and copious amounts of strawberry daiquiri type drinks, hollering and laughing loud at a classy restaurant, popping mini bar bottles having one sip, and just a lot of desserts and crap. Heck they barely weigh 100 lbs each. Not being greedy or anything more just sort of naive. Anyhow they were fun and jovial and it was a good time.

Put them in a cab just after midnight. Got back up to the room and it looked like a bomb hit the place. 3 sets of condoms plus condom wrappers scattered all over the floor, furniture out of place, lots of bottles open. The hallmarks of a memorable night.