Panama City

[Dickhead]

Did Dickhead ask you to post that to support his position that HIV is so prevalent in the hobby?

I think you misinterpreted my earlier post, which was aimed at getting people to realize that testing hookers is a waste of time. I do not believe that AIDS can be easily transmitted by heterosexual activity. However, there are still plenty of HIV-positive providers.

[Mfins]

Hey guys,

Just wanted to give my 2 cents because I am really appreciative of learning so much from everyone else's experiences and I must say I definitely had a lot of worthy advice prior to landing.

Anyways, let's get to it.

1) I stayed at the Sheraton Convention Center (Calle Uruguay / ATLAPA Convention Center), they charge $50 per chica to go to the room (which sucks because they never did that before).

The adjacent Aloft hotel (also Starwood group) charges as well. Cool hotel but lots of security and too much staff, so it's hard to sneak chicas in.

2) Visited Veneto and Habanos Tues 17th. Thur 19th about 10 pm, lots of girls but the same girls over and over again. Going rate standard $150 but you can break them down to $100 easily.

You can even go lower to $80 around 2 am-4 am because what was funny that I saw is that most of the girls don't get picked up and just keep walking around. Too much competition.

3) Be on the lookout for the Colombians why Venezuelans, they're making it bad for everyone. They tend to charge high and want to run things in Panama because I guess they're more beautiful.

And exotic. The Cubans / Panama / DR girls are way more nicer. But at the end of the day everyone is about their money! Remember that, which all of you all know.

4) Drinks per bucket of miller lite (6 bottles) at Veneto is $15 plus tip and tax= $17.55 USD.

Bottle of J&B Scotch Whisky is $45 and you get ice & 2 chasers.

5) Many girls say "Come on let's go party" making it seem as if you're going to get a GFE, fuck no! My brother was drunk, it was his birthday so about 3 am, he pulled this girl. She was a 7 at max but I know he was drunk hence his poor decision. Didn't want to spoil it for him so I just went with the flow. I had my eyes on 2 girls but ended up going with the girl's friend, an 8.5.

Yes, I know big cardinal mistake I made and I ultimately paid the price.

Arriving at hotel, got ambushed by the security and front reception, ended up paying the $100 for 2 girls because didn't want to cause a scene and the girls are like right there.

Upon entering the room, the whole "let's have a party scene" changed. Clothes off and they're ready. I was like wdf. They're clock watchers. One girls super experiences, one girl not.

Long story short because I was pissed off, in about 30 minutes they were ready to go. Ended up smoking in the bathroom. Also, they wanted money up front. Didn't want to take half up front, half at end.

Ending up giving in, yes I know I'm a fucking asshole. But being heavily intoxicated I didn't care and gave in. Anyways, the girl didn't want to kiss much, she couldn't take hard fucking and she seemed inexperienced.

Carried her to bathroom, she couldn't handle it either. Wish I took pics but they didn't want to drink. Also hard taking photos in Veneto as security all around.

Anyways, I couldn't cum and I just wanted them out after because they kept asking for more money like if we wanted to run a train, etc. I had a bad first experience really.

But if I had listened to you Vets, I would've come out unscathed!

All in all lesson learnt, and just had to suck it up and move on.

6) BTW, I saw the girls the next night at Veneto and told them they were total bitches and they shouldn't lie. Other girls told me apparently they're notorious for that. Just be careful. Can't even remember their names, that's how messed up we were.

7) Habanos is the ultimate spot, but those girls there are like vultures, Jesus LOL.

Got to go now, but will give anything else that comes to mind. Or any other advice. I used UBER a lot which was super cheap, safe, etc. I got lots of numbers and befriended most of the girls at Venetos so they're my friends now, hehehe.

BTW, if you want awesome freaking seafood, go to La Casa Mariscos, bit expensive but simply exquisite food! Really upscale place. Everyone was well dressed, we were in jeans.

Thanks again for the advice and really appreciate the candid feedback guys! Keep it going. It's not about us, it's about those who came before us and gave back and the ones who come ater and will also give back!

Salut,

RuffRyder

I agree about La Casa Mariscos. Great Food. Upscale. The shrimp plate is excellent. Panama in General does not have the best food / service compared to other countries. La Casa Mariscos is the exception.

I can completely relate to you saying you were drunk and then having the problems you did. We drink pretty heavy when we go out and, the girls notice it. They will always try to take advantage and being super drunk you can either choose to argue and cause a major scene or just suck it up and pay more. I used to fight just on principle and to prove a point but I, realized it ruined my night so now I just know I am going to overpay if I am wasted.

[RainMan270]

Sounds a little fishy. So she just texted you and told you she was HIV positive and you happen to see her at Habanos now? You were just asking someone if they had seen her the other day.

Give us some more details about her and I am sure one of us will see her soon. Hopefully this isn't some chick you are stalking.

That was my initial reaction. Who told you she was HIV positive? Did she tell you that? Why would she tell you she was HIV positive? Why would anyone tell somebody that and effectively end their earning potential? Are the clinics who do the testing obligated to tell their employers? That would be a huge HIPPA violation in the US. Did one of her competitors spread that around? Did Dickhead ask you to post that to support his position that HIV is so prevalent in the hobby?

[El Patron24]

Gents,

Please be aware I had some interaction with a Colombian from Elite called Erika. I just got confirmation that she has tested positive for HIV. She had to leave Elite and is now working solo at Habanos. All please be aware. I have some pics or here I can post later.

Sounds a little fishy. So she just texted you and told you she was HIV positive and you happen to see her at Habanos now? You were just asking someone if they had seen her the other day.

Give us some more details about her and I am sure one of us will see her soon. Hopefully this isn't some chick you are stalking.

[Xkalibur80]

Good report sir. We all learn from experiences and I still tend to do what you just described.

I was at Habanos last night and boy was it a shit show! Hardly any girls but most likely due to it being a Monday. I am expecting a better show tonight and will post a report later.

Hey guys,

Just wanted to give my 2 cents because I am really appreciative of learning so much from everyone else's experiences and I must say I definitely had a lot of worthy advice prior to landing.

Anyways, let's get to it.

1) I stayed at the Sheraton Convention Center (Calle Uruguay / ATLAPA Convention Center), they charge $50 per chica to go to the room (which sucks because they never did that before).

The adjacent Aloft hotel (also Starwood group) charges as well. Cool hotel but lots of security and too much staff, so it's hard to sneak chicas in.

2) Visited Veneto and Habanos Tues 17th. Thur 19th about 10 pm, lots of girls but the same girls over and over again. Going rate standard $150 but you can break them down to $100 easily.

You can even go lower to $80 around 2 am-4 am because what was funny that I saw is that most of the girls don't get picked up and just keep walking around. Too much competition.

3) Be on the lookout for the Colombians why Venezuelans, they're making it bad for everyone. They tend to charge high and want to run things in Panama because I guess they're more beautiful.

And exotic. The Cubans / Panama / DR girls are way more nicer. But at the end of the day everyone is about their money! Remember that, which all of you all know...

[RainMan270]

Gents,

Please be aware I had some interaction with a Colombian from Elite called Erika. I just got confirmation that she has tested positive for HIV. She had to leave Elite and is now working solo at Habanos. All please be aware. I have some pics or here I can post later.

Appreciate pics of her.

[Duchovnyd7]

Gents,

Please be aware I had some interaction with a Colombian from Elite called Erika. I just got confirmation that she has tested positive for HIV. She had to leave Elite and is now working solo at Habanos. All please be aware. I have some pics or here I can post later.

[RuffRyder]

Hey guys,

Just wanted to give my 2 cents because I am really appreciative of learning so much from everyone else's experiences and I must say I definitely had a lot of worthy advice prior to landing.

Anyways, let's get to it.

1) I stayed at the Sheraton Convention Center (Calle Uruguay / ATLAPA Convention Center), they charge $50 per chica to go to the room (which sucks because they never did that before).

The adjacent Aloft hotel (also Starwood group) charges as well. Cool hotel but lots of security and too much staff, so it's hard to sneak chicas in.

2) Visited Veneto and Habanos Tues 17th. Thur 19th about 10 pm, lots of girls but the same girls over and over again. Going rate standard $150 but you can break them down to $100 easily.

You can even go lower to $80 around 2 am-4 am because what was funny that I saw is that most of the girls don't get picked up and just keep walking around. Too much competition.

3) Be on the lookout for the Colombians why Venezuelans, they're making it bad for everyone. They tend to charge high and want to run things in Panama because I guess they're more beautiful.

And exotic. The Cubans / Panama / DR girls are way more nicer. But at the end of the day everyone is about their money! Remember that, which all of you all know.

4) Drinks per bucket of miller lite (6 bottles) at Veneto is $15 plus tip and tax= $17.55 USD.

Bottle of J&B Scotch Whisky is $45 and you get ice & 2 chasers.

5) Many girls say "Come on let's go party" making it seem as if you're going to get a GFE, fuck no! My brother was drunk, it was his birthday so about 3 am, he pulled this girl. She was a 7 at max but I know he was drunk hence his poor decision. Didn't want to spoil it for him so I just went with the flow. I had my eyes on 2 girls but ended up going with the girl's friend, an 8.5.

Yes, I know big cardinal mistake I made and I ultimately paid the price.

Arriving at hotel, got ambushed by the security and front reception, ended up paying the $100 for 2 girls because didn't want to cause a scene and the girls are like right there.

Upon entering the room, the whole "let's have a party scene" changed. Clothes off and they're ready. I was like wdf. They're clock watchers. One girls super experiences, one girl not.

Long story short because I was pissed off, in about 30 minutes they were ready to go. Ended up smoking in the bathroom. Also, they wanted money up front. Didn't want to take half up front, half at end.

Ending up giving in, yes I know I'm a fucking asshole. But being heavily intoxicated I didn't care and gave in. Anyways, the girl didn't want to kiss much, she couldn't take hard fucking and she seemed inexperienced.

Carried her to bathroom, she couldn't handle it either. Wish I took pics but they didn't want to drink. Also hard taking photos in Veneto as security all around.

Anyways, I couldn't cum and I just wanted them out after because they kept asking for more money like if we wanted to run a train, etc. I had a bad first experience really.

But if I had listened to you Vets, I would've come out unscathed!

All in all lesson learnt, and just had to suck it up and move on.

6) BTW, I saw the girls the next night at Veneto and told them they were total bitches and they shouldn't lie. Other girls told me apparently they're notorious for that. Just be careful. Can't even remember their names, that's how messed up we were.

7) Habanos is the ultimate spot, but those girls there are like vultures, Jesus LOL.

Got to go now, but will give anything else that comes to mind. Or any other advice. I used UBER a lot which was super cheap, safe, etc. I got lots of numbers and befriended most of the girls at Venetos so they're my friends now, hehehe.

BTW, if you want awesome freaking seafood, go to La Casa Mariscos, bit expensive but simply exquisite food! Really upscale place. Everyone was well dressed, we were in jeans.

Thanks again for the advice and really appreciate the candid feedback guys! Keep it going. It's not about us, it's about those who came before us and gave back and the ones who come ater and will also give back!

Salut,

RuffRyder

[El Patron24]

Friday 5/20.

My plan for Friday was to scope out the Venetto to hunt for a Cubana. I've met several Cubanas in Fort.

Lauderdale in gentlemen's clubs. Many have been very sexy and several have had tight little bodies. There was none of this at.

Venetto.

Good reports Kyle.

If you can get any of the Cubanas numbers at Habanos or Veneto, they are likely to have lower prices for a day time romp. The Colombian girls are using the name "Cubanas" as a derogatory term, saying they are lowering the going prices in Panama. However, the Cubanas will not typically be cheaper at night at Habanos, because they tend to stick to the expected going rates.

[Kyle Fox]

Friday 5/20.

My plan for Friday was to scope out the Venetto to hunt for a Cubana. I've met several Cubanas in Fort.

Lauderdale in gentlemen's clubs. Many have been very sexy and several have had tight little bodies. There was none of this at.

Venetto. On average the women were 10-25 pounds heavier and 3-5 years older than the women at Habano's. I.

Hung around from 9:30-10:30 pm and didn't see any improvement. Then I gave up and went back towards Habanos.

I walked past Habanos and went down towards Ashe and another "normal" nightclub down the street from Hooters.

And not too far from Elite. Ashe was very quiet compared to Habano's, probably 10-12 women, 3 guys in the place.

I circled the few blocks around this area and saw a TGI Fridays, a Buffalo Wild Wings, Crepes and Waffles, an.

MVP Sports bar. There are tons of American-style dining opens in the city.

There was a line of 18-22 year olds going into a club called Audioground or something similar to that name. Most were.

Dressed very casually. There were a couple other nights clubs around but there were no lines to see what.

Type of clientele they attracted.

Around 12 am I went back to Habanos. I spotted a 5'3" Colombiana from Barranquilla who beautiful long hair.

With a small ripple curl going through it. She had a petite body, slender legs, completely flat stomach.

She reminded me of the woman in the Michael Jackson "The Way you make me Feel" video. Not as tall or as.

Quite as pretty, but damn close. I approached her and was friendly and happy to a have "get to know you".

Conversation. Very nice girl is 23, been to Panama multiple times for 1-2 month visits. She wanted $150.

Per hour. I tried negotiating to $100 plus bonus but she didn't go for it. I told her I wanted DFK and she.

Said she was open to that and definitely would be a relaxed, no-rush time. I gave in. Because she had been.

Friendly and she was my top pick of all the women I saw over 2 nights.

She ended up being quite good, semi-GFE. She kissed and caressed but didn't lose herself into full GFE mode.

I extended her to 1. 5 hours for $200. Her body is / was freaking awesome if you light petite-toned women. I.

Would strongly recommend her. To find her just look for one of the most petite, slender woman with long.

Ripple-curl hair. All 3 nights I saw her in the club she wore a top that showed her flat stomach and.

Arms / shoulders.

I had her visit Saturday daytime for 1 hour, 30 minutes for $160. She brought lubricant this time which.

Greatly enhanced the experience.

[Xkalibur80]

Not a bad start. I am arriving Monday night at 11 pm so by the time I get to the hotel and Habanos, it will be 1 am.

PM me if anybody is in Panama.

Thursday night.

I staked out Habano's Caf on Thursday night. I got there around 9:15 pm and it was pretty quite. By 9:30 pm there was a decent amount of people, probably 70% chica / 30% guy ratio. Girls from Colombia (70% DR (15%) Panama and Cuba (15%) I'd estimate based a Colombiana's knowledge. She says she mostly can tell by the face and body where someone is from. I took a walk over to Venetto for about 45 minutes but otherwise I kept a good watch on Habano's the whole night. By 10 pm the place was in full swing with a good complement of chicas.

I was drinking soda and water. These cost just $2 each and tipped $1. I sat in empty seats at times without issues. On Friday when it was crowded I was told I needed to purchase a drink costing $8 or more to get a seat.

The chicas: At 9:30 pm I was a bit disappointed with the chicas. By 10 pm I definitely saw a few 8's to 8. 5 and possibly 9's depending on your standards..

[Duchovnyd7]

Anyone have any experience with a cute little spinner from Colombia called Erika. She use to work at elite and now is at Habanos regularly. Kyle Fox, did you meet up with any Erika?

Thanks.

[Kyle Fox]

Thursday night.

I staked out Habano's Café on Thursday night. I got there around 9:15 pm and it was pretty quite. By 9:30 pm there was a decent amount of people, probably 70% chica / 30% guy ratio. Girls from Colombia (70% DR (15%) Panama and Cuba (15%) I'd estimate based a Colombiana's knowledge. She says she mostly can tell by the face and body where someone is from. I took a walk over to Venetto for about 45 minutes but otherwise I kept a good watch on Habano's the whole night. By 10 pm the place was in full swing with a good complement of chicas.

I was drinking soda and water. These cost just $2 each and tipped $1. I sat in empty seats at times without issues. On Friday when it was crowded I was told I needed to purchase a drink costing $8 or more to get a seat.

The chicas: At 9:30 pm I was a bit disappointed with the chicas. By 10 pm I definitely saw a few 8's to 8. 5 and possibly 9's depending on your standards. I say most women were in the 6-7. 5 on a scale of 1-10. A lot of woman had beautiful long-dark straight hair. Very few skinny women and small number of average sized. Most had big butts and legs, some unnaturally augmented. I'm no fan of butt implants and that almost always disqualifies a woman for me. Breast implants I like when done well. Most women were probably 22-28 years of age. Possibly a few a few under 22 and definitely several over 28. Overall the group appeared to be a lot of experienced regulars. Many would initiate conversations talking about going to my hotel.

Maybe 30-40% of the women contribute to the "mosquito effect". They come by unsolicited, generally unwanted, touch you or say Hello, try to start a conversation. I would politely say no thank you or I don't want to waste your time (in Spanish) and few mosquitos kept biting for another minute or so before my silent treatment had them moving on. I don't like a woman approaching unless I've told her with my eyes that I'm interested.

Overall I really like a freelance bar like this with no fines and no minimums. Only thing really missing for me is that I love the 18-21 college-aged girl / part-timer vibe and more girls of slender builds.

Eventually I selected an attractive Venezualana chica (an 8 on 1-10 scale) around 2 am largely for her attitude. Who wanted $150. I told her $100 plus bonus if she was very affectionate. She was worked out pretty well. I was in a bit of a quiet mood and she was very pleasant about it. No rush.

[Kyle Fox]

I arrived in the airport at 1 am, got to Panama City about 2 am.

I booked Hotel El Parador for $40 on hotels.com. Down the street from Hampton by Hilton. Basic hotel, but suffices for sleeping. Reminds me a bit of Sosua hotels with better windows. Mostly just needed to sleep and wake up to move over the Hyatt Place this afternoon. Why pay $100/ night when checking in alone at 2:15 am?

My first time in Panama. I post some more reports later.

[RainMan270]

My nave friend, please know that there is a difference between 'can be tested', 'will be tested', 'must be tested', etc. When it comes to Latin America. Be further aware that ALL of these phrases are bullshit. Like in CR, any woman can walk into the Del Rey. So how can testing be enforced? My advice is to forego condoms, which could break, fall off, etc. , and stick your dick directly into a bottle of bleach after sex. Also you should autoclave your dick every six weeks. That will kill any AIDS virus that may linger.

Thanks for the advice. I've been in the hobby off and on for 30 yrs, so I don't think I' m that naive. How long you been in it?

Fact: Incidence of HIV in CR 0.2-0.3 %.

Fact: male: female ratio of HIV infection in 11:1 which means, majority of men who get it are homosexual or bisexual, common denominator homosexual activity. The anus isn't meant to be stretched like the vagina, therefore more trauma ensues.

Fact: A male is at risk if he has on open sore on penis.

Condom break? WTF. Yeah, that's pretty common.

Stick my dick in bleach? I bet your parents told you that you would grow hair on your hands and go blind if you masturbated. The Puritan Forum is the other one.