Panama City

[Sargent 50]

Does anyone know if the Marriott executive apartments are girl friendly considering it's an apartment.

[Member #4722]

Just checked out of Hyatt Place. They said effective two days ago the guest fee is now $30. I guess I was grandfathered in and was only charged $15 since I checked in before the new rate started. Those fuckers added three extra guests onto my bill so check those receipts guys!

Will post a full report soon.

[The Cane]

LOL. I take this with a grain of salt. In one of my favorite shows, 90 Day Fiance, this cat from Phoenix went to the Philippines and found a chick to bring back to marry. He kept saying how she needs to be a model. Mind you she had no aspirations of this. But he finally talked her in to going to the modeling agency. So he heads down there with her in tow. You should have seen the look on the people's faces at the modeling agency..

And then there was the one from Brazil who was indeed pretty enough to be a model. Her fiance was concerned and really didn't want her to do it, I'm sure partly out of fear that he would lose her. I don't watch the show too much anymore. Got tired of watching people do stupid shit! Anyway, wonder what happened to those two?

[Member #4722]

LOL. I take this with a grain of salt. In one of my favorite shows, 90 Day Fiance, this cat from Phoenix went to the Philippines and found a chick to bring back to marry. He kept saying how she needs to be a model. Mind you she had no aspirations of this. But he finally talked her in to going to the modeling agency. So he heads down there with her in tow. You should have seen the look on the people's faces at the modeling agency. And I think I could hear one of them whisper to him that the optometrist was two doors down. That bich didn't last 3 minutes in front of that camera.

Everyone has different tastes. I won't post a picture out of respect for the lady. She is really beautiful. She has the model "look". Here are literally millions of models in the world it's not like that is some huge reach to have model good looks. If I was going to embellish wouldn't say the session went great? And I don't care what you think but thanks for your contribution.

[Mr Enternational]

You can't miss this girl she has about 5 kilos of the most beautiful curly hair you have ever seen. She really should be a model.

LOL. I take this with a grain of salt. In one of my favorite shows, 90 Day Fiance, this cat from Phoenix went to the Philippines and found a chick to bring back to marry. He kept saying how she needs to be a model. Mind you she had no aspirations of this. But he finally talked her in to going to the modeling agency. So he heads down there with her in tow. You should have seen the look on the people's faces at the modeling agency. And I think I could hear one of them whisper to him that the optometrist was two doors down. That girl didn't last 3 minutes in front of that camera.

[Member #4722]

Anyone coming to panama soon and wants to fuck a model type go to La Boca to met Luz rom Venezuela. Service at least for me was lacking I never go for the really beautiful nes because more often than not this is the case. You can't miss this girl she has about 5 kilos of the most beautiful curly hair you have ever seen. She really should be a model. Her sister works there too they are the two hottest by far at La Boca. Her sister has blonde curly hair she had mediocre service as well.

[Mfins]

I know what you mean bro. You didn't make the prices into what they are and there is damn sure nothing you can do to change them. The only choice you have is pay what they will take or go home with your dick in your hand as you did the one night. It is just unfortunate that all the monger destinations are falling 1 by 1 into the same crap; mainly because people choose to go places and compare what it would cost back home instead of thinking what it actually costs locally.

There is one other way to look at it. The hot Colombian / Venezuelans etc. Girls would never fly too and work in places like Panama if not for the higher prices they can charge.

An entire industry was born in places you would never think because a gringo tourist was willing to pay 10 x the amount they could get back home.

I will say I have my stories to of back in the day. Prices used to be lower and service / attitude used to be much better but, keep in mind a secret doesn't stay a secret for long and, as much as we want it too stay underground and cheap it usually never does.

[Member #4722]

Was more forward with "Gina from Scarface" it was a slam dunk. She doesn't drink and is shy I think that was the problem before $60 for an hour it was mediocre session for service but for looks a top 5 of all time. Going to repeat for sure! Felt like there is potential for better service.

[Member #4722]

Correcto. These women do not want to go back to their barrios late at night, and will often stay with you for no extra money. Feeding them breakfast in the morning would be bastante caballero. Personally I prefer them to leave 90% of the time, and sometimes they will beg to stay, but I don't let them. Mi casa, mis reglas.

Now I forget if it was this forum or not, but when the chica wants / insists that her friend, be she ugly or not, accompany you, that is often an indication that you are dealing with an equipo de ladronas. Unless they are gay hot for each other, they want to tag team you so they can rob you or cause other problems. Avoid.

Great advice. Did not have a good feeling about these two and glad I walked. Only had one good threesome in mongering (only tried a few) and even the good one fell below expectations.

[Dickhead]

It depends on the circumstances. 99% of my TLNs have been "natural" TLNs and are not even negotiated. It is when I am at a disco or bar until 3 am and get a girl to come with me. I say natural because you both have been out partying, you go back to the room, do your thing, fall asleep, and wake up and do it again before she goes home or you decide you want to hang out more. In general TLN aka Long Time is not discussed in this situation. It just always turns out that way.

Correcto. These women do not want to go back to their barrios late at night, and will often stay with you for no extra money. Feeding them breakfast in the morning would be bastante caballero. Personally I prefer them to leave 90% of the time, and sometimes they will beg to stay, but I don't let them. Mi casa, mis reglas.

Now I forget if it was this forum or not, but when the chica wants / insists that her friend, be she ugly or not, accompany you, that is often an indication that you are dealing with an equipo de ladronas. Unless they are gay hot for each other, they want to tag team you so they can rob you or cause other problems. Avoid.

[Mr Enternational]

I do like the nightlife here and regular clubs. Probably won't return for mongering. Habanos is the top place for beautiful women and they charge what they charge. I tried to haggle too much my first night and came up empty handed. That is not what I am on vacation for.

Almost every monger on this forum gets the hottest girls for the cheapest price and has sex 8 X a day and the girls fall in love. I simply post my honest experience good or bad in order to help out other travellers.

I know what you mean bro. You didn't make the prices into what they are and there is damn sure nothing you can do to change them. The only choice you have is pay what they will take or go home with your dick in your hand as you did the one night. It is just unfortunate that all the monger destinations are falling 1 by 1 into the same crap; mainly because people choose to go places and compare what it would cost back home instead of thinking what it actually costs locally.

[Mr Enternational]

That does raise the question of why anyone would want to negotiate a TLN with someone they had never fucked before, with whom they could not communicate well. That has never made any sense to me. But chacun son got, as they say in France.

It depends on the circumstances. 99% of my TLNs have been "natural" TLNs and are not even negotiated. It is when I am at a disco or bar until 3 am and get a girl to come with me. I say natural because you both have been out partying, you go back to the room, do your thing, fall asleep, and wake up and do it again before she goes home or you decide you want to hang out more. In general TLN aka Long Time is not discussed in this situation. It just always turns out that way.

[Dickhead]

The minimum wage in Panama is $416/month. So to give someone half of a month's wages for 1 night is hmmm. In the USA the minimum wage is $1305/month.

I got $1,256.67: $7.25 an hour times 52 times 40, divided by 12. But many states (29 plus DC) have higher minimum wages, as do some counties and cities.

You would be hard pressed to find a local that was not a drug dealer or high roller businessman to give a hooker $200.

You would be hard pressed to find a local that did not speak Spanish. Might affect negotiating ability, as well as the hooker's desire to spend a lot of time with a particular gentleman. That does raise the question of why anyone would want to negotiate a TLN with someone they had never fucked before, with whom they could not communicate well. That has never made any sense to me. But à chacun son goût, as they say in France.

[Member #4722]

Panama was not my first choice. I have been to Costa Rica four times so wanted to try something different. I wanted to go to Lima but my friend insisted on Panama and he didn't even make the trip! I came here 15 years ago and fucked local girls for free but now this is much harder nearing 50 years old. I do like the nightlife here and regular clubs. Probably won't return for mongering. Habanos is the top place for beautiful women and they charge what they charge. I tried to haggle too much my first night and came up empty handed. That is not what I am on vacation for.

Almost every monger on this forum gets the hottest girls for the cheapest price and has sex 8 X a day and the girls fall in love. I simply post my honest experience good or bad in order to help out other travellers.

[Mr Enternational]

The price I mentioned was what some other girl quoted me at Boca. $20/15 minutes on site. $40 for 30. $60 for hour and $200 all night. I didn't negotiate with the hottie but that is a fair price for all night for a beautiful woman anywhere in the world.

Anyways this city is expensive. I had two sessions tonight with 7. 5 Columbians. Both great sessions but not GFE. The first girl wouldn't budge on price I got $200/2 hours. The other girl at closing agreed to $100 she was the prettiest so far. She left after just one hour.

Mongering in foreign countries is an everyday learning experience and every day I get better. But if I am sticking to my original plan to not go over $100 I will go home disappointed.

This is a recurring theme on ISG. Let me first say that Panama is not at all expensive. If you are a tourist staying in fancy hotels then maybe it can get expensive. If you are living there, then of course not. I have not been to Panama in about 3 years. Before I was going regularly because I had 3 girlfriends there.

The first was Colombian and has been working there in a factory for quite a while. When I would come to see her I would stay at Europa Hotel for $30 then started staying at Arcos love motel for I think $25.

The second was Panamanian. She sold condos for a living. Whenever I was there I would stay in her apartment. She had a car so there was no problem getting around. I helped her get a visa and she came to visit me in the States twice. Each time I paid for half her ticket.

The third one was also Colombian. I met her years ago when she was living in Caracas. She has since lived in Curacao, Spain, and now Panama. She has been a hair dresser in the over 11 years that I have known her. She rents a room in someone's house, so I would stay at the Marriott or Courtyard at the mall when I would visit her.

From the airport, taxis were $20. To the airport, they were $15. (Last time I was there I took Uber back to the airport for I think $12) All around the city they were $1.25. One morning my girlfriend dropped me off at the airport then she headed to work. I doubled back to see a side chick that I was dealing with. I did not take a taxi, but instead took the bus for 25 cents.

The minimum wage in Panama is $416/month. So to give someone half of a month's wages for 1 night is hmmm. In the USA the minimum wage is $1305/month. Keeping along the same lines, you would give a hooker in the USA $627 for 1 night. It seems like an okay comparison until you bring in the fact that prostitution is legal in Panama and illegal in the USA (barring the Nevada ripoff spots.) And we all know that whenever something is illegal we have to pay a whole lot more for it. (As a sidenote, I heard that a certain grade of weed was going for $1600/pound before it became legal in California. The day that it was legalized the price plummeted to $200/pound.) So paying half a month's wages for a legal service makes no sense at all.

You would be hard pressed to find a local that was not a drug dealer or high roller businessman to give a hooker $200. I am no longer shocked when foreigners roll in to any third world town and want to give away the farm. When I first started going to Brazil in 2002, I would get chicks for $25 all night. From reading reports I think chicks want at least $200 nowadays. I started going to the Dominican Republic in 2006. Giving chicks there $25 for all night and I would have to put them out because they would try to stay. Keep in mind that a police officer there makes $125/month, meanwhile recent reports have chicks asking for $100 short time over superbowl.

I have been living in Thailand for the last 8 years and thankfully there are so many hookers here that there has not been a problem getting chicks all night for the same $30 that I always have. The minimum wage here is $10/day, but you are only making that much if you are a high school graduate and have like a cushy job at 7 Eleven. So for most laypeople it is more like $6/day. Chick prices and wages run about the same in Philippines. So I am giving chicks 10% of the monthly minimum wage for all night, instead of the 50% that mongers are giving in places like Panama, Brazil, and Costa Rica. That, to me, seems more plausible and within perspective.

When you read the reports in this section you see the chick was Colombian, Venezuelan, Dominican, but you never see any reports about Panamanians. I once heard that it was illegal for Panamanians to be hookers although after doing a search online I can find nothing that says that. As I was saying before, chicks are traveling to where someone will pay them more money. Two years ago I was in a club in Peru and a Colombian chick told me $100 for short time. I started laughing and said why would I do that when I could just go to Bogota and fuck your cousin for $8? She started laughing and gave me a high 5. So why are guys going to Panama and paying all this money for foreign chicks when they can just go to where they are from and get them for much cheaper? It is not like Panama is a great vacation destination or anything.

(I haven't been to La Mayor in many many years. Chicks were $10 back then. The entire area has since had a makover.

LOL. I think me and Yip are both about to have heart attacks when you mention giving a Colombian chick $200 (574K Colombian Pesos) for 2 hours. Especially since I fucked a chick in Bogota for $10 (30K COP) for 30 minutes last month).

Seriously, you would have come out cheaper buying a plane ticket to Medellin or Bogota from Panama for a couple of days than you would giving those chicks $100 or $200 a pop.