Panama City

[Pty Sexy]

Mr. PTY you will get nowhere in Managua. The girls will hate you. The men will too. They are very physical there. Good luck.

I’m sorry for the so called gringos. I spoke several times with Latin people I had met in my travels and the common feeling is that they don’t like Americans at all. I’m sorry if the truth is too hard for you to accept it. We didn’t deny the holocaust like you deny the stuff you did in places like Iraq. Anyway this is not the place for this political issue so I’ll not comment again about this topic.

Remember:

The local price was around $40.00 for a decent girl last year, but right now because of “g____r____s” the price’s almost the double.

Viel Glueck

And Gran Pollo, I don’t know why you attack me, I was impressed with your Managua knowledge but I’m disappointed with your attitude towards me.

[Tiny 12]

So, Pty Sexy, you're German. Now I understand. Most of the Panamanians that I've met have been buena gente that didn't go around insulting people. Well, except for a couple of taxistas. You need to work on your English vocabulary to find a more effective way of expressing yourself than using the "f" word. And your attitude towards chicas could use a little cleaning up too, based on your post in the Managua thread.

[Regulr Travlr]

Luvr Tom

RTFF instead of adding all your posts to the Reports of Distinction section. If someone really thinks they are that good they would add them for you.

Why are you so surprised at this? If you had read the forum before any of your visits you would know that Le Palace, Life Girls, Miami, Elite and Cristal Moon all have a chica drink policy. Any girls drinks will be charged at bar price, usually around $10 and the girls and the bar split the profit. This is a common practice in the U.S. It is a common practice in clubs around the world. In the Far East there are clubs where the only thing you do is sit with the girls and buy them drinks. And let’s not forget the “Champagne Rooms.” Some guys enjoy the company. There are easy ways to avoid this - JUST SAY NO. Say it politely. Tell them you would rather find a way to give all the money to them and not have to split it with the bar. Or say you would only like to buy only one. Or do not go to these clubs. There is no drink pricing in place at Habano’s, Veneto or a lot of other places. There are no drinks on the street. But everybody has their own preferences and approaches to being with the girls.

The girls in the clubs are there to make money. Unlike the street girls the prices are fixed by the bar. There are economics in play here. They have “protection” from the owner, they have routine medical checks, some clubs even provide housing. So any activities inside the club have a fixed price and management monitors that. They use their share to offset some of the costs and make a profit. The girls use their share to make money! They can make money by having guys by drinks for them, or by having sex with them. Or both. Their job is to sell. You are customer. Your job is to decide what to buy and from whom.

I have never been ripped off at any of these places. If I like a girl I will sit and have a drink with her. If I don’t like a girl I won’t. The girls will usually ask if it is OK to have another. If you are buying many drinks someone from the club will ask you in advance it it is OK, or require a credit card early on. They do not want to get stuck.

By the way if you are going to be spending a lot of time in Panama you should know a little more about the drink.you call pretentious ass shots of (fake) "premium" spirits. It is not a Jagermeister knock off. Most of the girls don’t even know what Jager is. It is Aguardiente. It is in the family of ouzo and sambuca. It is a product of Colombia. The girls have grown up drinking it. They have songs about it. I now make sure I have a bottle of it in my room for when I bring a girl back.

You posted one of the only reports about being ripped off by Golden Times, and you let a tout from Life Girls take you to Oasis. You are getting stuck for drinks in a club. Perhaps you can admit to inexperience and learn from others on this board

[Pty Sexy]

I’m not from Panama not from US either. I’m from Germany I’m really don’t like the fucking attitude some [Deleted by Admin] guys like MJG Dogs have. Here I found good looking women (from Colombia) that would accept $50.00 and will be so grateful that everyone is happy, but when they realized that are some “[Deleted by Admin]” that start paying $75.00 or more, they will start asking for that.

And one final quote to the [Deleted by Admin] of MJG Dogs, remember the euro have more value that your [Deleted by Admin] dollar.

To the other Americans, don’t take it personal but you have to admit that the [Deleted by Admin] came from USA (like [Deleted by Admin]).

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2 down, only 1 to go

Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack to me via the "Report this post to a moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 3rd violation.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Pty Sexy]

Too bad my government was so stupid ([Deleted by Admin] Jimmy Carter), gave away the canal. Anyway keep taking your potshots, one day the US will wake up and we will demand that our government stop handing out foreign aid accross the globe, but please keep insulting americans, for I want to see the foreign aid end, and maybe we can take better care of our own citizens not illegals). . So keep biting the hand that feeds you. But maybe then if we cut the aid off, we will be able to get your women for $ 5-10 USD, toda la noche.

I don't take it personal, after living in CR in the past, I know the resentment too well. Just stating fact here.

Hey MJG Dogs your name is the right one, you are a [Deleted by Admin] dog, and no one here want your [Deleted by Admin] money (only the colombians [Deleted by Admin]), so go back to your [Deleted by Admin] country.

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1 down, 2 to go

Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack via the "Report this post to a moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 2nd violation.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Panamanian]

Again i must "defend" ELITE.

IMO they're very respectfull, they both (chica and waitress) will ALWAYS ask you before buying any drink for the girl.

And about the Europeans... well it's not unknown that most Europeans here are businessmen who make MUCHO money (more than the average gringo or mexican who comes to Panama). For example a german, spanish, french or italian guys most likely will bring mucho money.

The point is not about how expensive are turning the "services" the chicas offer but how able you guys are to pay that.

COMPRENDE?

[MJG Dogs]

Bartchamdo -- Thanks. I think that's convenient to where I stay sometimes (need to look at a map) so I'll check that out.

On another topic, I think maybe Pty Sexy is a gringo trying to start a flame war. Anyway, I hope Panamanian and MJG Dogs don't get into it -- both you guys have given some good tips that have helped me.

Ok, part of my posting is for effect. I do not want to start a flame war with Roberto ( no mas, no mas) Duran.

[Tiny 12]

Bartchamdo -- Thanks. I think that's convenient to where I stay sometimes (need to look at a map) so I'll check that out.

On another topic, I think maybe Pty Sexy is a gringo trying to start a flame war. Anyway, I hope Panamanian and MJG Dogs don't get into it -- both you guys have given some good tips that have helped me.

And finally, regarding Elite, I have been offered the all you can drink special and I'm a gringo. But I'm not sure that it's available every day. And anyway I'm not a big drinker so it was cheaper for me to do the minimum consumption, which I think was 2 drinks. Luvr Tom, I've been pushed harder there to buy lady drinks than anyplace in town, including Miami. I think drinks is how the women there make a lot of their money -- nobody does take out, because the price is ridiculous. And management will fire any woman they catch setting up something for after hours or the next day (although you can still do it if you're careful). The way to play it back at them would be to do the all you can drink deal and watch the shows -- they're really good -- and don't blow a lot on lady drinks.

[MJG Dogs]

Come on, I'm Panamanian, and I know (guess) PTY-SEXY made that comment just to joke around with you guys. Too bad this MJG-GUY got angry for that or took it soo personal, anyway.

I reckon the costs vary according the person, if the pro knows you're a local the price will be kinda lower, if you're a yankee, you will most likely pay more, and if you're an European you will surely pay perhaps twice the cost.

For example, read back where I reported about ELITE CLUB, for you americans to get in you pay about 20 bucks for 3 drinks, that's it.

For us (drink all you want) you pay 21, it also includes some snack if you ask for it.

See the difference in some points?

COMPRENDE?

By the way MJG dog, dont take it too personal. After all it's just his opinion.

Too bad my government was so stupid ( Motherfucker Jimmy Carter), gave away the canal. Anyway keep taking your potshots, one day the US will wake up and we will demand that our government stop handing out foreign aid accross the globe, but please keep insulting americans, for I want to see the foreign aid end, and maybe we can take better care of our own citizens ( not illegals). . So keep biting the hand that feeds you. But maybe then if we cut the aid off, we will be able to get your women for $ 5-10 USD, toda la noche.

I don't take it personal, after living in CR in the past, I know the resentment too well. Just stating fact here.

[Bartchamdo]

Bartchamdo, good idea although I'd be more interested in directions to some of the places outside of downtown. Where's Bodeguita? Thanks

Hi Tiny,

I couldn´t really help you with directions to places outside of downtown. The only one that I went to was Club Capri and that was a 15 or so minute drive. Cabbies seem to start by asking for $3 but accept $2.

La Bodeguita is on Calle 53 (Clle Uruguay) right next to the ocean. The first few times I dropped in there (in the afternoon and at 8pm) I saw absolutely no one. I dropped in after midnight once and it was jam packed wall to wall. Night life in Panama doesn´t even seem to begin til after 11pm.. $10 cover. It´s supposed to be a good place to find freelancers or to take your lady, though I wouldn´t know from personal experience.

[SpiderMonkey]

now on my last night there i was with tom. there was some canadians there and i asked them how much they were paying they told me $80 to $120. i told them to not pay more than $50 to $70 which is alot more than my first trip in november. as stated they wont budge on $70.

[SpiderMonkey]

if its her or not i still had one good night

[Luvr Tom]

I reckon the costs vary according the person, if the pro knows you're a local the price will be kinda lower, if you're a yankee, you will most likely pay more, and if you're an European you will surely pay perhaps twice the cost.

For example, read back where I reported about ELITE CLUB, for you americans to get in you pay about 20 bucks for 3 drinks, that's it.

For us (drink all you want) you pay 21, it also includes some snack if you ask for it.

What's with the Europeans paying more again? Do the chicas just think they're dumber, or are the chicas exploiting the euro/dollar exchange, or what?

Also, how do you handle the "buying the chicas drinks" extortion game which the clubs so eagerly try to play? I don't wanna pay more than $3-4 for any bar drink anywhere in the world; much less paying $8-12 for these pretentious ass shots of (fake) "premium" spirits. But if you're going to go to Miami, or Elite, and just watch the stage show and chat; the second some chicas sit with you, the waiter is going to be on you like stink on shit suggesting you "buy a drink(s) for the chicas"; of course the BS pretense is you're a cheap ass if you don't and you're cheap ass if you don't let the chica order the drink of her choosing which will of course be a $10 shot of some fake brand name crap... with both the chica and the house splitting the $9.97 of pure profit. You can nurse your drink for a hour or two, but of course the chicas will be blowing through their $10 drinks and the waiter will be there like clockwork with a fresh one, coz, you're not a cheap ass or anything, RIGHT SUCKER?!

I haven't been to Elite, but $20 (cover) for 3 drinks is $6.67 ea. Does Elite then also play the "buy drinks for the chicas" game on you... well duh, but anyone have advice on how to play their game back at them? While still having a good time, not being ignored/boycotted by the chicas for not being a good sugar daddy, and still not getting chumped?

[Panamanian]

Come on, I'm Panamanian, and I know (guess) PTY-SEXY made that comment just to joke around with you guys. Too bad this MJG-GUY got angry for that or took it soo personal, anyway.

I reckon the costs vary according the person, if the pro knows you're a local the price will be kinda lower, if you're a yankee, you will most likely pay more, and if you're an European you will surely pay perhaps twice the cost.

For example, read back where I reported about ELITE CLUB, for you americans to get in you pay about 20 bucks for 3 drinks, that's it.

For us (drink all you want) you pay 21, it also includes some snack if you ask for it.

See the difference in some points?

COMPRENDE?

By the way MJG dog, dont take it too personal. After all it's just his opinion.

[Luvr Tom]

... back at Habanos. I called this chica over. Her name was adrianna. A real looker. Brown hair el natural tits and smoking little body. I talked and decided on $70.
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She is from medellin.
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Now I have met many talented girls with great oral skills, but this one took the cake. deep deep throat action to the point i had to stop her. Now I never finish oraly but this girl had skills i had yet to experience until now.

Hey SM,

I just noticed something, I was reading KOS's thread, and in this post he writes,

"I have met many girls at Habanos, across from the Marriot Hotel. I even met this one girl that swallowed my cum twice. Yes, she was a real cock sucker. I really think she could suck a BOWLING BALL through a GARDEN HOSE. I mean the girl was a true champ, she swallowed with a grin on her face both times, I could not believe it, one of the first girls that swallows and really likes the taste of cum. I was amazed at what a coocksucker. "

KOS later writes:

I will not mention her name, but she is from Medellin and is a hardcore cocksucker, I like this girl. The only problem was that she is not the hottest girl the street, I like 10 plus, but this girl is about a 7-8, typical, she wants more money and has to compensate for her looks. She sucks great heeead, I mean maybe the best.

Her name starts with A-----, and works at Habanos and is from Medellin, that is enough clues.

Hey, your Adrianna was from Medellin, amazing BJer. Hmmm, prolly just a coincidence.