2005 Archived Reports

[Country John]

Any one been in zona on sat at 2pm?? Country John I know your down there alot?

I've been on fri sat sun night but never day. Are ther many SW out or girls at AB. Taking a greenhorn with me dont want to disapont him.

Thanks JAll.

You will not believe your eyes. Take a spare set. Now that the weather is getting warmer, the girls are gonna start dressing to impress and I can't wait.

Try not to overpay the SGs. More and more they are getting $30. for $20 service and then clipping in the room. The deal is $20. for 20min and then you can negotiate for extras. Just try to control yourselves!!

It's gonne be tough, especially now. They're gonna be looooooking good.

Country John

[Country John]

Went there intentionally to see if I could get a repeat perfomance from "Azul" (translates to "Blue"). She's a 28 year old provider that has a great body (not too frail but not too much) and a better attitude. Hooked up with her last time and loved it.

Not Azul the Amazon right? I wasn't aware of another Azul at HK. If it's the same girl I'm thinking of, I hear that she's moving to AB for a better paycheck.

She'll have some competition that's for sure and I'm not sure she'll be able to handle the pressure. good luck.

Great TR by the way OCTraveler. Didn;t they make you buy a bucket upstairs?

Country John

[OCTraveler]

Had an opportunity to travel to my favorite mongering destination (TJ) this evening and wound up at the Hong Kong Bar. Went there intentionally to see if I could get a repeat perfomance from "Azul" (translates to "Blue"). She's a 28 year old provider that has a great body (not too frail but not too much) and a better attitude. Hooked up with her last time and loved it.

Got there today and sure enough she was there ... same routine as the last time ... a couple of fun moments while she danced on the bar downstairs and then upsatirs into on of the private booths for an incredible and sensual nude dance that ended in a bbjcim with Russian action as well .... all for the ridiculous price of about $30.

Total time in TJ was probably an hour and a half and the total cost breakdown was:

Cabs/parking $14
Beer $6
Azul $30
Oysters from a street vendor $5
Total: $55 (less than one hour @ an AMP!)

Pleasure scale 9.999 out of 10

[Belgrath]

A good waiter will count out the change in front of you on the serving tray so you know there is no slight of hand tricks with your change. Thats one of the reasons I like Chicago club, most of the meseros do that there.

Pick pockets dont seem to frequent the AB and CC like they do the with the Avenida Revolucion clubs but there are a few. HK sometimes lets trashy begger type women in and sometimes they do try to pull a few fast ones in there so its always safe to stay aware. There are a few REALLY persistant male beggers if you are by yourself but if you are near a club go in or duck in a hotel to talk with a girl they wont follow you in cause the owners of the place will toss em out. It is always good to dress down and even if you are a doctor/businessman, dress like a bluecoller worker or poor college student.

I found out from my wingman that the song the ladies of TJ clubs liked was "Mesa que mas Aplauda" (table with the most applauses). The women would shake back and forth and smack their butts to the Za Za Za when it was playing in the clubs..

[Country John]

Bluenose, good advice. I'll license you all to use my AlleyKat Street Guy Bye Bye line:

If they walk with you while pitching a club or anything, say:

"Hey, no thanks. Please don't follow me, I want to walk alone."

In English, this means: "No thanks, I don't want you walking with me in case the cops want you in which case they might hassle me too." They understand this. If you have to say the above verbatum then do so, some need it spelled out.

In any case, be polite. They might be deported criminals with serious drug issues but they do have their pride.

My other favorite line to use when they ask for a tip is:

"I'm saving my money for the girls, see me later and if I have a few bucks I'll help you out."

RE: MEXICALI

If you are not driving in Mexico, go back and get your car, take the 8 East to Caliexico, park and walk across. The Mexicali zona is about the same distance as the TJ Zona from the border.

Search out Rico Cafe (on this board). He is the Honorary Monger Mayor of Mexcali and will keep you out of jail. (I think.) PM him and set something up. You need a good wingman your first time out.

DO NOT take your rental vehicle to Mexico without clearing it with the rental agency. Cops like to stop rentals and who needs the hassle. If you DO drive in Mexico, take the 2 highway (toll) from TJ to Mexicali. It's much shorter than the 8 Stateside and you can drive 100 MPH with no problems (until you get into the mountains). It's a beautiful drive. You'll spend about $US25. in tolls (return). The toll booths give change.

NOT FROM 'ROUND HERE?

Then do not venture out into the bus terminal area at night. I can go on and on about it but my advice is to travel in your personal vehicle to Mexicali either on the 8 Stateside or the 2 in Mexico.

Last, but most importantly: be polite, and remember your manners. You are a guest in Mexico, so act accordingly, even if you are not afforded the same respect in return by everyone who you meet - this is the Price of Admission into La Zona. Most agree that it is well worth it.

Could not have said it any better myself.

There's an old guy in the Zona who shines shoes but he doesn't ask you for a shoeshine, he first says "How are you my friend?" When prople say "No thanks." He says "For What??" "I just asked you how are you doing, do you have manners?" He got me once several weeks ago, now I got his number. I keep him talking and WAIT for him to solicit the shoe shine. My point is that your manners are the lubrication that keeps the machinery of humanity running smoothly in the Zona. Don't leave it at home.

The amount of material to read is a bit overwhelming,

The only thing you need to read (should be required reading) is Brockton's guide. The rest of the posts are our personal experiences and count for something but to get to "baseline" read Brocktons guide. It is spot-on.

can someone list the three things to keep in mind to avoid problems, other than staying sober?

I'll try.

1) Do not argue with the girls if the session doesn't go well. Take your hit, learn your lesson and move on. It usually means you did not negotiate well.

2) Do not bling. Leave the Rolex home. Dress clean, shave and look good but no bling. You do not have to impress the girls; they already know why you are there. Some already know that they are so much better than American women, that is all you need to know.

3) No drugs or weapons. Even a knife can get you in trouble. Take your Viagra before crossing or immediately after purchasing. It is illegal to carry prescription meds around without a prescription. They now have a reason to put the squeeze on you.

4) Make sure the waiter sees the denomination of the bill before you release it to him. Otherwise he could scam you if he wants to try. The way of the AlleyKat is to grip the bill, then let him tug on it (slipping out of his fingers the first time). Everybody laughs, but he sees the $20. bill and he sees me looking at him looking at it the second time. Also, they like to cover the spare change under a $1.00 bill. If you have $6.75 coming back, you'll see the five and the one (that you usually give as a tip) but they like to hide the 75 cents under the dollar bill in case you're not paying attention and just waive him off after taking the five. Get it?

5) Don't pay for anything YOU didn't order. If YOU didn't sign off on the drink for the girl, do NOT pay for it. Let the girl and the drink go. You're getting "ficha-fucked."

I'm running way off topic here. But I think this might help a bit.

Country John

[Rabo Verde]

2 PM on Saturday is a fine time in the Zona.
Not quite the scene as later, but no crowds and more laid back.

[Belgrath]

There are a few songs that seem very popular with the ladies at the strip clubs like CC and Adelitas. One of em I call 'the Sa Sa Sa song' that I'm trying to figure out what the real title is so I can download somewhere and relive the memories of the chicas swaying their hips and smacking their butts in rythem to this song. Anyone know the real title to this song or any other chica favorites?

[Blue Nose]

MacGoo & FatClap - Let me see if I can answer a few of your questions:

Yes, there are buses between TJ & Mexicali (there are buses from TJ to all major Mexican cities). Just ask a taxi to take you to the bus station or you can walk to it. From Av. Revolucion, as you are walking north toward the arch, take a right under the arch and follow the signs for the US border (towards pedestrrian foot bridge). Cross the first intersection, and the bus station is on your right - doesn't look like a bus station as the buses are parked at the back. 3 min walk from Avenida revolucion. No idea how often the buses go to Mexicali, but bus is a safe way to travel. My advice if you want to drive would be to park your rental car at the border, walk across to TJ, have fun, go back to the US, drive to Mexicali and repeat as above!

Taxis are safe late at night. Be sure to flag down a "Taxi Libre" - a white car, and not a yellow taxi. Should be about $3 from la zona to the border. Ask the driver to start the meter and/or negotiate before you get in. Sit in the FRONT seat so the guy doesn't take you for a rube.

La Zona on Saturdays at 1-2pm is hopping, my friends. Lots of action in the clubs and with SGs outside. By 2:30, AB is crowded with guys & chicas. Anywhere from 40 - 60 girls in the alley at that time. Chicago Club gets started after 8pm, but Hong Kong & Miami (located in the alley) are also good in the late afternoon / early evening.

A few things to keep in mind to avoid problems: take a taxi to & from la zona your first trip, until you get familiar with the area and the route; Do not walk to/from la zona at night; Avoid (politely) the street hawkers who try to "hook you up" with anything/anybody. Just shake your head politely and say "No, Gracias"; When walking, always look like you know where you are going (best to have a destination like a club or something in mind) rather than looking like you are lost; Leave valuables in the US; If you are using a Farmacia, be careful and take your vitamin C / V immediately before exiting; Do not have drugs or weapons in your possession; Show the club waiters the bill denomination before giving them the $; Take and use your own condoms;

Last, but most importantly: be polite, and remember your manners. You are a guest in Mexico, so act accordingly, even if you are not afforded the same respect in return by everyone who you meet - this is the Price of Admission into La Zona. Most agree that it is well worth it.

[Macgoo]

Brethren,

I will be in San Diego soon and want recommendations for travel to, and lodging in, Tijuana for two days. I want to visit spots described by some of you. Next; and based on your reports read here, I'd also like to make a trek to Mexicali. So, is there someone here that can advise on the best way to travel; rent a car (US) or other for crossing the boarder? After a stay in Tijuana, is there a bus that runs between the 2 cities (Tijuana and Mexicali) -- and is it recommended? Are taxis in Tijuana safe for use late at night?

Based on some reports of crime in Tijuana, can someone list the three things to keep in mind to avoid problems, other than staying sober? My Spanish is not great but well enough to generate a conversation. My apologies if answers to these questions can be found here. The amount of material to read is a bit overwhelming, albeit very good stuff!

Thanks guys

[Fat Clap]

Any one been in zona on sat at 2pm?? Country John I know your down there alot?

I've been on fri sat sun night but never day. Are ther many SW out or girls at AB. Taking a greenhorn with me dont want to disapont him.

Thanks JAll.

[The E]

I had a great time in TJ last month. I went to the alley and fucked four girls in one night. $20 for the fuck, $5 for the room. I spent $100 on the fucks, $4 on parking. Where else can you get good quality pussy that cheap? I am definately coming back. I have never had so mch fun in my life!

Word of advice, have your money converted to pesos and you can save a little. The girls will fuck for $200 pesos and the rooms are $50 pesos. And since $1 = $11.65 pesos, you come out better in the long run.

[Country John]

Good job California Guy. I hope I was able to help out a bit. If you got Vpill in the farmacia and had it on you when you got searched it would have cost you. Never forget to take it inside the store before leaving.

Next time, when you got a street guy on your tail, stop and say to him (politlely) "Please don't follow me, I want to walk alone." and that usually fixes that. The cops might have thought that you bought some dope from this guy so they had you figgered for a mark. Smart move.

If you are firm but polite, the street guys will fall away.

Chicas want their money up front until they get to know you. $30 is high for a SG, unless it's full sin ropa and full contact.

I'm a lurker at AB now (except for the fabulous Esmeralda). I just grab a beer, check out the eye candy and move on to Hong Kong or Miami (or Rio Verde).

Maybe we could hook up soon. AlleyKat 57 tomorrow in the Zona. Got some errands to run and some chicas to squeeze.

Country John

[California Guy]

Okay first let me me start by thanking Country John for chatting with me for a while and giving me advice. I didn't know what I should expect down in the Zona and he was cool enough to tell me what to look for so I do appreciate it.

I wanted to head down with another person to feel more comfortable, safety in numbers, but I couldn't get anyone so I said fuck it. I left San Diego around 9:00 PM and stopped to get some change and food before I crossed the border. I also didn't want to bring my wallet so I went made a quick stop as well at a Savon and bought a cheap wallet to hold only my ID and cash, nothing else like credit cards!

Next I arrived at the border, it was about 10 PM now, and I parked at one of the lots. I walked across and got the taxi to go to the Zona, cost was $5. After getting dropped off I immediately looked around for a pharmacia but I couldn't see one. I decided to ask the taco stand guy and he pointed me up the street. Now I start walking when all of a sudden this guy is on my hip asking me what I need. I am not sure if he heard me ask the taco guy or the taco guy pointed me out but man he was practically holding my arm. Right then I started thinking about what Country John told me and one thing was to ignore any guys trying to help you get things, unfortunately this guy wouldn't leave me alone! It sucked because I wasn't 10 min. in TJ, already nervous being alone and my first trip, and now I have some guy right there asking me stuff and I know what Country said. I just tried to ignore him but he walked next to me to the pharmacia where he said things were cheaper. By the way he was asking me if I wanted girls because he knew some, telling what clubs to go to, but not trying to sell me drugs or anything illegal. Needless to say I was pretty sketched so I walked into the drug store and told the guy I was over it and I would rather go to the club instead. I have never taken anything before so this also entered my mind but I just wanted to try it and see how it felt. Well we walk out of the store and 5 seconds later 3 policia stop me and this guy next to the pharmacia. I am like great! My first trip to get some pussy and I'm going to get jacked for no reason. Well they made me put my arms behind my head and started searching me. I just let them do what they wanted because I didn't have anything on me besides my wallet and keys. The guy at one point asked me to open my wallet and I thought for sure he would take my cash but they just let me go instead. Country said that if you do stupid things and get caught they will jack you but I wasn't doing anything stupid and luckily I didn't get any pill from that damn pharmacia, although I would have downed it right away.

Okay well after that fun I grabbed a redbull and went to the HK club, and yes he was still by my side. I walked in and I wasn't impressed by the ladies but I wanted to see the much talked about shows. I got a couple beers and hung around for a while as they weren't starting for a while. At one point I noticed this hot piece of ass walking around and getting all she could handle from the guys. She didn't seem to mind although they were only giving her $1's and she let the guys around suck on her tits, rub her pussy, etc... I was amazed because she was a solid 7 but she didn't mind the guys too much. Anyway, I didn't see anything else I liked but I was just waiting for this lesbian show. I did see one American guy and asked him how the girls were but he didn't say much and I was cool with that. The guy who had been with me the whole time, by the way he did speak good English, didn't ask for any beers but the waiters gave him everything he wanted. He said he knew some people and I was like okay cool. Finally he saw some other American guy he knew and said he had to do something and for me to wait, obviously I wasn't planning on it. I therefore waited for the lesbian show and left about 10 min. in so I could avoid this guy.

After HK I started walking down towards CC and I met this street girl, don't recall the name, and I started talking with her. She wasn't super hot, like a 6.5 (oh just so you know I judge pretty hard though so Pam Anderson, Brooke Burke, and Adriana Lima are all 9.9's to me and no girl is a perfect 10) but I was horny so I asked how much? She said 30 fuck, suck, and I could touch as well so I should ok. She led me to this shady as hotel across the street and I paid $5 for the room, I knew it couldn't be anything close to nice and I was correct LOL so now we are sitting there in this rat room and she has her lube, which is a real turn off to me, and a condom. She asks me for the $30 and this is how much I know about the hobby, I say no I want to pay her afterwards!!! HAHA I have seen two girls in the US but I thought since it was TJ that the girl would just take off She couldn't understand me and once she finally did she said I was crazy and I left. Man I felt like a dumbass but I really had no idea. Well then I walk down the street another 10 feet and this girl is walking in the opposite direction. She was super cute and Im freaking horny so we lock eyes and she stops me. I ask how much and she says $20 so I am like "oh yes" We go to another hotel, right next to the previous place, and this is actually just as bad. I didn't care though and paid the $5 for it and off we went. We got in this time I give her the money up front, lol, then she starts undressing. She is a solid 7.5!!! Pretty face, super nice 34 C tits, little ass, tan, and on a 5'0 frame that must have weighed 95 pounds. Again I apologize but I can't recall her name? Now we are both naked on the bed and she puts on my cap and she starts sucking. It is a poor job really but I just liked looking at her tits, face, and that hot pussy. After a few minutes I told her I wanted to have sex and she climbed on for a ride. No lube for this girl at all and she starts getting really wet! I was so turned on knowing she was liking everything and she didn't moan too much where you knew it was fake. It was very good and after about 15 minutes I exploded, as she kept riding away. After I tried to talk with her a little but she couldn't understand me so I gave up. I would have taken this girl all night if I was staying there but I didn't want to do that. I ended up walking with her to the sidewalk and bought her a bottle of water at the store next door and she was happy I did this.

Now I was thinking about what I was going to do next when I see the American guy I briefly chatted with at the HK club and said hi again. He said he flew down just to go to TJ and had been there for a couple days already. He then said he was sorry he didn't talk with me more about the girls in the HK club but the guy that I was with was a gangster down in TJ! LOL, great that whole time I was hanging with some gangster guy which probably explained the policia searching me with him. He didn't seem like one because he was pretty cool and we just chilled but I just thought again about what Country John said and laughed a little. Finally after chatting for about 5 minutes he said I should probably leave and I think some guys were scoping me so I went to the CC.

The CC had many more girls than the HK but it was funny that most of them sat on one side while the guys sat on the other. I decided to chill and check them out so I sat down and got a drink. A lot of the reviews I have read say the CC has bad girls but I saw some easy 8's and a couple 9's. This one girl was just unreal but she was with some guy the whole time, looked a lot like Catherine Zeta Jones. Well I sat for about 10min and finally this little girl came up to me and asked if I wanted to go up stairs. She was cute, 6.5, and I asked her what I got and how much. She said for $60 she would give me a bbbjcim plus sex and I was really tempted but I wasn't into her that much. She even said I could have 40 min. instead of 30 but I told her I wanted to kiss her as well, which I really didn't, and she said I had to pay an extra $40!!! LOL I was laughing and told her I wasn't into so she finally left me. It was now about 2:00AM and I was getting tired so I decided to go check out the famous AB.

I walked over to AB, and by now I smelled like an ash tray which really sucked and I could barely talk because of all the freakin smoke. Being outside for a bit was nice but I didn't want to hang out too long because I know I would get hassled. I went in and right away I was floored!! Damn the first girl I see is super hot, solid 9 and just on fire! Then I look around and the room is full of hot chicks. There were about 30 girls there and honestly 20 of them were solid 7's and 8's with about 5 9's! I was really impressed so I bought a water and just sat down at the bar. I started talking to this American bro and he was there alone as well, really nice guy. He pointed out a couple girls he had been with that were good and I told him about my fun night. After an hour I noticed not one girl had come up to me or this guy so I started tripping out. I am not a bad looking guy and he wasn't horrible either so I didn't get it? He told me a lot of the girls there are snobby so you just have to pick the right girl to check out, etc... He actually left after a while not even going with a girl becuase it was so bad. I started getting bitter as well and I noticed the super hot girl I noticed right when I got in AB's had turned down about 4-5 guys while I was there. More people were starting to come in as well, probably from revolution street so I started debating on whether to grab one of these porn star looking girls or just bail since none came to me. As I was about to leave I turn around and this hot one at the bar calls me over. Her name was Carla, I remember lol, and she was a 7-7.5 in terms of looks. She really wasn't as hot of girl as I wanted to do, because I knew the prices were minimum $60, but I just said okay and I would do her. By the way, the girls in AB have some serious plastic in them! Some of these girls have the worst ass implants I have ever seen, actually a good number have both tits and ass impants, and most have done too much! Carla had fake boobs but they were good size, D cup, and had a good ass so she didn't need any impants. Well we went up to room next door and I paid the guy $11. Carla speaks good English so we spoke for a few minutes and then we got to business. It was funny as well because this time she didn't ask for the money but I just put it on the counter Oh and the room was 10x better than the other places and she laid a sheet down as well. I felt more relaxed and she started playing with my dick telling me how nice it was. She put on the jimmy and she started cbj and she was a 9.9!!! Serious porn star sucking style and was just really good, best I ever had. I let her do it for a while and then I wanted to fuck her so she climbed on top. This girl also used lube so it kind of sucked and not 1 minunte into fucking her does she start moaning like we have been screwing for 4 hours. I almost laughed but I just wanted to bust a nut and go home now. I finally got her doggy and cremed away after about 10-15 min. then we just laid there talking for another 15 min. and I said I was leaving. I went out, some guy asked me for a tip so I gave him a buck, and I got a taxi back to the border. It was now about 5:30 and I was so freaking tired!!! I got dropped off where the taxi's turn around, asked for the bridge but this is where I ended up. No policia around though so I just walked back easliy with all the people.

Overall I was happy I finally went down to check things out but I am still sketched out by TJ. I think some of the girls on the street were as good as the ones in the clubs, in terms of looks, bust on a larger scale the girls in AB were smokin and this was a Wed. I think I will go back this week again, hopefully with Country and maybe get a room for the night instead. I spent about $170 total down there so it wasn't bad since I banged two chicks, much better than I would get in the pathetic US! OKay well I know this was long but hopefully you enjoyed my story and I will post again when I return.

[Belgrath]

Me and my wingman have been keeping a tally on the number of different chicas we've gone with in the zona and before I had a sizable lead on him. Last few times I've been doing mainly repeats but he's been trying out new talent since his favorita is on vacation My lead is down to only one chica now, 12 to 11. Gotta get my lead up again so keep the reports coming, I need to find some more good ones to risk moola on! Still no luck finding the Diana and Gabrielle mentioned here when I'm prowling the alley.

[TJ Bob]

Wow, it's good to see that WSG is up! i'm looking forward to contributing here more after all the downtime. keep it coming guys!