2005 Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Hojo]

It was practically 1 girl for every 1 guy last night(Sunday). It may have even been worse.

At least the music was rockin.

pop till you drop,
hojo

[Member #4156]

First of all, I was quoting another economist's views. I failed to put in the quote and for that, my apologies. I was not intending to plagerize his writing. It was: Richard Lapper, Latin America Editor for Financial Times.

Secondly, the answer is yes.

SD

http://www.jb.com.br/extra/2005/11/28/e28113261.html

That's a good look Sal. Thanks for the heads up. I hope this continues well into my Fev. trip.

LOL! and to think Lucio predicted a R$2.11 exchange by Jan 1.

[Tiradentes]

I heard that two american guys got into a fight in Barbarela on saturday. One guy suckered punched the other guy on his head. The victim was left on ground unconscious for 2 minutes.

I will try to get more info to share with you.

It is just sad how few apples ruin the place, and give us a bad reputation.

[Sal Dali]

First of all, I was quoting another economist's views. I failed to put in the quote and for that, my apologies. I was not intending to plagerize his writing. It was: Richard Lapper, Latin America Editor for Financial Times.

Secondly, the answer is yes.

SD

Sali Dali:
unfortuneately i did not study economics. does this mean the Dollar exchange rate will improve against the Real?

[Carlos Primeros]

You put it all in a nut-shell. Well done!

I am at present time in Salvador, have stayed in the city, met a wonderful girl, invited her, went up the coast to a resort with a nice golf-course, do a nine-hole in the morning and an three-hole in in the afternoon.

What else do I want for the moment? I enjoy myself immensly and I do not think that I can do the same in Africa or Asia to that extend.

When I am back I will report in more details.

Exec Talent - the guy who passed out the business-cards - was that in 4x4??? That recently happened to me with some `American Developer and Investor`

Carlos

[BuleDaddy]

OK, now that I have your attention my fellow booty hounds, we must remember that we are all on a mission. All this e-Beeutch slapping has got to stop and I only see it in this Brazil section. Bruthas taught me long before most of you were born (in the Army in Vietnam) that it ain~t about getting drunk and acting like a high roller and damnfool, it is all about the booty.

The only people I see doing any REAL negotiating w/ the ladies are the broze. The only dudes that I ever chatted with in Help (before a fast moving garota latches on) that ain~t trying to come off like Jack the Lad are the broze.

Also, some the sweetest gals I have met there are the sistahz from Salvadore. These ladies are being totally neglected by gringoes of all colors, except me it seems. That is what one told me yesterday on the beach as the Italian guys were groping her white brz gfriends she sat there all by herself looking sad. She said that ALL guys are going for the fair skinned garotas. Please dont forget that it is that black blood that gave the garotas the world class bundas.

I am a fat 55 year old and I can manage to get a girl out of Help for $150R COMPLETA. They might start out at $300R but when I humor them by jokiningly telling them that I am going to lick their bunda and suck their toes (in Portugese), for example and then they hear my techno, bachata, merengue, and jungle music collection on nice headsets whilst I boink them silly they are in no hurry to leave. I usually have to kick them out with a lot of whining because I am scared of the stories that have been posted about what happens when you fall asleep. The sisters rule in the sack too, BTW.

[Exec Talent]

The last thing I come to Brazil to do is "hang out" with other Americans white, black, brown, red or yellow. I don't come to Brazil to "hang out" at the termas and talk badly about American women, talk badly about Brazilian women or talk about how things are done in America. I come to enjoy all the wonderful things Brazil has to offer. If I wanted to spend time with the "boys" and talk, there are plenty of places to do so in the US.

If you come to Brazil and feel you must talk, do it quietly and if someone seems like they want to be left alone and not engaged in conversation, take a hint. One time recently while I was trying to relax in the termas with my girl, some guy actually was passing out business cards. I thought I had made a wrong turn and some how ended up in a real estate seminar.

My experience has been that people who talk a lot do so because they don't have the resources to do. Strippers and escorts in the US avoid the talkers as do most of the professional girls in Rio.

Don't get me wrong, I have met some interesting guys from all over the world in Rio. Usually they have a quiet assuredness about themselves and not the need to let everyone know that they are from Obnoxiousville, USA where their 6th wife left them and the best relationship they ever had in their lives was with their pet goldfish.

[Sperto]

What he said is true, brothas do congregate at Meia Pataca. They dont "monopolize" the place, anyone can go, grab a table and enjoy the girls, all mogers are welcome (We don't "own" Meia Pataca either)

It's true that the majority of the gringos at Meia Pataca are Afro-Americans. That's OK. To me they all seem like very happy guys enjoying themselves. Me and my friends sometimes wondered why there are so few white Americans. They don't like brazilian bunda?

[Sperto]

When price negotiating in or outside Help, or at Meia Pataca, there are 3 simple questions to be asked.
Ask the questions in this order:
1. "Quanto você quer?"
When she says R$ 300 you try not to laugh too much. Just give her a smile indicating that you heard something absurd.
2. "Você faz por quanto?"
Now she will smile and answer something like R$ 200-250.
3. "Você aceita R$ 100?"
Now she might act offended, but she really isn't.

Now one of three things will happen:
A. She will accept.
B. She will leave you for a other guy.
C. She will leave, but return accepting the offer (maybe trying to raise the price a little bit).

[Liucio]

Its starts with U & I
walk away from vulagar prices

back in the day women used to apparoach us
but now were approaching them asking the how much

times have changes
visitors have changed and Copa has changed

We just have 2 B prepared to spend 2x what we paid 6 mos ago 4 less quality and even less time

These garoras r professions
this is what they do everyday, and they cut/reject deals everyday probably every 3 hrs.

The question is not what can u pay but
what r u willing not 2 pay

Starts with U & I

[Zorglub]

Let me start by saying that Rio is not the value destination it once was. I was last there 2 years ago, same time of year. The difference this time was, well, remarkable.

Allow me to quickly run through the most notable changes.

-- Everything is more expensive. The hotels, the food, and yes, the women. The weakness of the dollar combined with the inflation has made Rio to be nearly as expensive as many western vacations. Food was outrageous, and the hotels were as well.

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You`re right on about that.
I spent the whole month of october in Rio and was amazed of the cost compared to previous years.

But stupid dudes paying 400-500 Reais for an allnighter are only worsening things.

[Comgo]

Not to include the black market is now closing the spread on the exchange rate.

Places are now offering BANK rates on the DOLLLAR.
The place near MAB'S is now offereing just .03 more than BANCO REAL.

BANCO REAL was offering $R2.34 , blackmarket on COPA is offering $R2.31 on the $US DOLLAR. UNREAL

When were these rates from? I'm not seeing these rates or near them anywhere. I'm seeing 2.20 to 2.25 at black market cambios and that's with changing a lot and haggling with them. If you know a specific place with better rates than 2.25R for $1US right now, please let me know where it is. Thanks.

[Java Man]

Sali Dali:
unfortuneately i did not study economics. does this mean the Dollar exchange rate will improve against the Real?

[Sal Dali]

Brazil’s economy

The resilience of Brazil’s economy in the face of political scandal, high interest rates and the world’s strongest currency, may finally be coming to an end.

The economy grew during eight consecutive quarters to the end of June, but many economists say figures for the third quarter due out on Wednesday will show stagnation at best.

Some are more pessimistic: CSFB, for example, says the economy will shrink by a seasonally adjusted 0.5 per cent from the second quarter and that annual growth will fall to 2.5 per cent for the year, down from 4.9 per cent in 2004.

President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva insisted last week the economy remained on course to meet the government’s target of 3.4 per cent growth – hardly stratospheric, given that the world economy is likely to grow by 4.5 per cent this year, but better than the average of about 2.5 per cent over the past decade.

But officials say privately that there is little chance Mr Lula da Silva’s target will be met. One culprit is the political scandal. The government has been mired for the past six months in accusations of vote buying and use of illegal campaign finance, making consumers and investors understandably cautious.

The biggest impact is from Brazil’s very high borrowing costs and from the currency, which has gone from about R$3.50 to the US dollar when Mr Lula da Silva took office in January 2003 to about R$2.20 today. Manufacturers are feeling the pinch: in dollar terms, it now costs as much to make a lorry in Brazil as it does in Sweden, and more than in Eastern Europe.

The strength of the Real is also a threat to Brazil’s exports. These have surged over the past two years thanks to booming global demand led by China. But while the value of exports continues to rise due mostly to high commodity prices, their volume has been falling for months. This has been reflected in slumping industrial output and in unemployment, which has stopped falling.

If Wednesday’s figures are as bad as some suggest, they will have an extra twist. Antônio Palocci, finance minister and champion of the austerity that has secured Brazil’s stability and international respectability, is under increasing attack from other ministers eager to spend their way into expansion as election season approaches next year. Last week he won a showdown to emerge strengthened in his job. A slumping economy would put him back in the firing line.

[Bravo]

I've read shit like this on this board before. Who the fuck do you think you are??? Muthafucka, you don't "own" Brasil. Brasil is a country of people of color -- it ain't Ireland! I think African Americans are more welcomed in Brasil than shitheads like you. Yes, pls. do avoid Brasil -- you won't be missed!

Easy, easy bro. He was just macking an observation, thats all. What he said is true, brothas do congregate at Meia Pataca. They dont "monopolize" the place, anyone can go, grab a table and enjoy the girls, all mogers are welcome (We don't "own" Meia Pataca either)