Angeles City

[Chocha Monger]

Here is another example of foreigners getting shoot in my US from the SCMP website.

"The family of a Chinese student who was murdered in a road rage incident reacted furiously in court on Wednesday after a judge accepted a plea deal from her killer.

Holly Davis fatally shot 19-year-old Yue Jiang of China in January 2016, while Jiang's boyfriend, Endong Chen, sat next to her, according to police in Tempe, Arizona. Davis had rear-ended the Arizona State University student's car.

After their collision in 2016, Davis got out of her Volkswagen Passat, walked to the driver's side door of the Mercedes Jiang and Chen were in and opened fire, police said..

Holly Davis was a psycho junkie who was out to kill someone to make herself feel better. She even wrote a note warning of her violent intentions. Davis rammed the Chinese student's car from behind. When she stopped, as required by law in traffic collisions. Davis approached her car and shot her multiple times. Bandits, kidnappers, and hitmen use the same tactic in Manila on travelers leaving the airport in taxis or hired private cars.

Feeling safe is subjective and based on a many variables. However, most mongers arriving in the Philippines to fuck the natives have access to more money than 90% of the population here. Many Filipinos live on a level of daily financial desperation where they cannot afford a conscience, and they will knife or put a bullet in the back of your skull for less than what you pay a spotlight dancer for a fuck. They also know the odds of the cops catching them are very low, and there is no capital punishment.

The USA is much larger than the Philippines, and in spite of sensational cases of violence in the US, most Americans will never experience a violent crime, see the body of a murder victim in their lifetime or have a family member murdered. The same is not true for the Philippines. The cheap pussy buffet can put mongers in such a relaxed state; they no longer perceive the dangers around them until it is too late.

[Bushes]

Here is another example of foreigners getting shoot in my US from the SCMP website.

"The family of a Chinese student who was murdered in a road rage incident reacted furiously in court on Wednesday after a judge accepted a plea deal from her killer.

Holly Davis fatally shot 19-year-old Yue Jiang of China in January 2016, while Jiang's boyfriend, Endong Chen, sat next to her, according to police in Tempe, Arizona. Davis had rear-ended the Arizona State University student's car.

After their collision in 2016, Davis got out of her Volkswagen Passat, walked to the driver's side door of the Mercedes Jiang and Chen were in and opened fire, police said.

The student was transported to a nearby hospital but died of multiple gunshot wounds to the torso.

Endong told police that he and Jiang did not know Davis, and they had no interaction with her until she collided with them. He also told police that there was no traffic dispute leading up to the incident.

Endong and Jiang had just come from a grocery shopping trip.

I don't know why. I sometimes feel much safer in the PI.

This was one of the worst American tourist killings during my time coming to the Phils.

[RainMania]

I'll be making a visit to PG in a few months and will check out airfares back to Manila. When returning the bus can turn into a nightmare (traffic) so flying back would be pretty solid.

FWIW the ferry ride to Sabang isn't bad at all, it takes 90 minutes.

With air Juan, their fares rarely change. Always 4500-5500 PHP from PG to Manila bay. Last time I did the whole journey, I left PG at 9:30 am on a Sunday morning and arrived at my hotel in AC at around 1 pm.

[Bushes]

It is expensive. The guy can fly from Angeles. But some tourists do like the view and the journey and the full trip experience.

I'll be making a visit to PG in a few months and will check out airfares back to Manila. When returning the bus can turn into a nightmare (traffic) so flying back would be pretty solid.

FWIW the ferry ride to Sabang isn't bad at all, it takes 90 minutes.

[Socker]

If you don't mind paying a bit extra, take a taxi or bus to Manila and fly with Air Juan seaplane from Manila Bay to Puerto Galera. They have multiple flights on most days and should cost 4500-5500 PHP each way (flight only). The flight between Puerto Galera and Manila is roughly 40-45 minutes.

I'll be making a visit to PG in a few months and will check out airfares back to Manila. When returning the bus can turn into a nightmare (traffic) so flying back would be pretty solid.

FWIW the ferry ride to Sabang isn't bad at all, it takes 90 minutes.

[Bushes]

Just a quick internet search:

"This article quoted official Australian figures and explained that nearly 400 tourists a year (0.01%) die visiting Australia. While most of the deaths are attributed to accidents and health-related issues, the article stated that during the review period, 22 persons died from an unlawful assault or, in other words, were murdered (Guardian 2003)".

FWIW, all these numbers are less than where I came from and am fairly accustomed to. I am always aware of my surrounding so, knock on wood, I have been fairly safe. So, for me, I feel safe doing my activities with the necessary precautions, regardless of where I am. For those who don't feel safe in the PI, my best advice is stay away. Stay far away. Go to safer places.

[Bushes]

FWIW, this is a quote:

"Mexico, for example, has been issued the most travel warnings between 2009 and 2016, with a total of 28. Mali is in second place with 26, then Israel with 25, Pakistan with 25, and Iraq with 24. If you compare that to the number of American tourist deaths in the same time span—filtered to only include homicides, executions, and terrorist attacks—Mexico does, in fact, come out on top with 598 Americans killed."

You can also search "Forbes Man accused of killing Italian tourist mistakenly released."

I fear the number of tourists "ending" in US is probably quite high. I noticed that my rentals in FL tend to be better disguised after numerous incidents over the years.

I feel a lot safer in PI (and Asia) than in many parts of the US and Mexico. You will get a bullet for your shoes or sunglasses. Yes, I did visit the the border towns and EP.

This was one of the worst American tourist killings during my time coming to the Phils. This guy who had never been out of his home state of Tennessee was gunned down by tandem team on a motorcycle in the "no man's land" that used to exist between the old Europhil Hotel and the Lewis Grand. For whatever reason, the guy ended up there, was shot and staggered back and collapsed on that little bit of lawn in front of the LGH and died on the way to the hospital. And, to top it off, Philippine officials gouged the grieving family on the expenses in returning the body.

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...he-philippines

[Docwiltro]

This was one of the worst American tourist killings during my time coming to the Phils. This guy who had never been out of his home state of Tennessee was gunned down by tandem team on a motorcycle in the "no man's land" that used to exist between the old Europhil Hotel and the Lewis Grand. For whatever reason, the guy ended up there, was shot and staggered back and collapsed on that little bit of lawn in front of the LGH and died on the way to the hospital. And, to top it off, Philippine officials gouged the grieving family on the expenses in returning the body.

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...he-philippines

Correct. Fly in, get what you want, fly out. ST, ST.

The elderly gent shot in the back of head, Garfields, was a first time tourist. Some of us, talk about the dark side of the Phils, to help newbies understand, it looks like the Disney Land of sex, but there is a dark side to it too. I have survived unscathed from 1974 to today, respecting that.

Fun, fun, if it isn't fun, forget it. For me, Phils has been fun (ST, no residency).

[Bushes]

NI, many responses already. FWIW, I usually fly, though I query how much safer that is in the end should something go wrong. If you are not on a schedule I suspect you will be fine. If you are on a schedule, flying back a couple days early might be suggested. Ferrys in the PI do sink or get cancelled. Weather is more a factor depending on when you plan to travel. I am a good swimmer but I not sure if I can make it to shore even with a BCD, Then there is my fear of abandonment like what happened to several tourist divers in Australia.

Want to go from Angeles to Batangas Pier then obviously Sabang.

Will taxi it all the way to the pier. So boat to Sabang takes approx 1 HR from Batangas. What would time be from Angeles to Batangas. Any better times / days to travel? Maybe not peak HR and not weekend? Do I have to go through manila? Cost? Should I break the trip up and stay in Manila overnight??

Appreciate.

[Kabul Guy]

Or you could go spend the night in Manila and stay at City-State Hotel. There is a bus that leaves there every morning that goes to Batangas. Then you transfer to the boat to Sabang. I think the package deal was 600 pesos. Don't quote me. Been a few years since I went. It was probably the best scuba diving I have done in PI. As for anything else you are not really missing anything.

A little more than than but not much.

Bus to Batangas is just under 200, ferry is 550 one way or 1000 round trip and terminal fee is less than 100 total for both ends. (varies depending on where you disembark.) So total about 800.

[Chocha Monger]

Guess applying his forefarther's NZ strtegy did not pan out well for him in PI.

The NZ land acquisition strategy that resulted in about 99% of South Island ending up in the hands of colonists is a fatal error to attempt in the Philippines. Nothing brings out the dark side in the natives like a foreigner moving into the area and buying up land or setting up big businesses. There are many abandoned unfinished mansions, guest houses and farmhouses in the provinces, which foreigners started building but never finished due to sudden retirement or fleeing the Flip blade runner. The mysterious disappearance of Lewis, of Lewis Grand Hotel fame, after allegedly selling his shares in the corporation occurred following involvement in a land grab dispute in Barrio Barretto. The barangay councilor will likely add AV's land to his holdings, seeing how the boundary line was in dispute. He will have no problem showing documents that AV supposedly signed to transfer ownership before his demise.

[Mr Enternational]

Or you could go spend the night in Manila and stay at City-State Hotel. There is a bus that leaves there every morning that goes to Batangas. Then you transfer to the boat to Sabang. I think the package deal was 600 pesos. Don't quote me. Been a few years since I went. It was probably the best scuba diving I have done in PI. As for anything else you are not really missing anything.

[RainMania]

Want to go from Angeles to Batangas Pier then obviously Sabang.

Will taxi it all the way to the pier. So boat to Sabang takes approx 1 HR from Batangas. What would time be from Angeles to Batangas. Any better times / days to travel? Maybe not peak HR and not weekend? Do I have to go through manila? Cost? Should I break the trip up and stay in Manila overnight??

Appreciate.

If you don't mind paying a bit extra, take a taxi or bus to Manila and fly with Air Juan seaplane from Manila Bay to Puerto Galera. They have multiple flights on most days and should cost 4500-5500 PHP each way (flight only). The flight between Puerto Galera and Manila is roughly 40-45 minutes.

[Kabul Guy]

It would take you 4-5 hours to get from Angeles to Batangas Port by taxi. Cost is negotiable, but I reckon around 5,000 PHP would be reasonable. Leave at 9. 00 am and you should be at the port by 1. 00-2. 00 pm. If you travel by bus, you will need to transfer. If you have a taxi, best to go straight through.

You have to watch the ferry departure times. Since some lines have last departure of the day around then, any later that 3 PM or so you may not get a boat ride until 5 AM. I'd recommend getting there earlier than that, leave 6 AM latest.

[PedroMorales]

Last night, brolly in hand like a short sword, I ventured down via jeepney to Checkpoint at about 9 pm. Crossing the road, I passed three yobs lurking in the shadows waiting to mug someone. I picked my way down to Walking Street and back up again, with two sperm buckets in tow.

This is no easy task. The rain, the dark, the absence of lights and proper pavements, the lumps and holes and bumps and unlit trikes on the footpath make it a hazardous and frustrating task, so much so that by the time I got to Walking Street, I picked up the two freelancers at 1 k each long time just to get it over with.

I fed them as I know these buckets never have money (one had one peso and the other 5 pesos; this is normal). They spoke to each other in Tagalog non stop and I knew I was on a bummer. After beers in my room, it should have been down to business but these women of good virtue did not do blow jobs and insisted on condoms and a degree of privacy. I got rid of them at about 1 am and paid them the tariff with a small and undeserved tip for wasting my time and my sperm.

Imagine my horror the next morning when I discovered I was missing 7 cheap Pinoy condoms. The pretty one, who drank more than I did, told me her aunt, a nurse, warned her about AIDS and UTI (I have never heard one of these lovely providers mention UTI before). But that is no excuse to steal my condoms.

Trying to talk money sense into these women is a waste of time. The previous night, I walked out of a Perimeter Road bar as I was as unhappy with the price of the ladies' drinks as the ladies were with their lot in life. Instead of concentrating on being nice to Pedro, they focus on nickle and diming for ladies' drinks and short timing. That is not the way to health, wealth and prosperity. They should concentrate on getting the big buffalo, not on chilling with their workmates.

Last night's flops shared a room with 8 others, each paying 250 PHP a week, no pillows or bedding included. Pretty face told me some of her room mates, those with pillows and such luxuries, will bonk anyone and anything to get PHP and that several of them have AIDS. Both of them were 20 and each said they never had a proper job, not ever as a waitress of whatever.

I just treated myself to a big meal in the American Veterans of Foreign Wars place, which seems to have lots of ex 'Nam and Korea guys on their last legs. Food helpings are huge, pork chops are the big seller. Waitress told me she has been there 5 years, she has a HR degree and all jobs, especially call centres, are like hens' teeth.

When I jeepneyed home last night with my two pieces of excess baggage, the Iglesia ni Christo had them packed to the rafters. I doubt many of them pound what passes for the pavements of Walking Street.

I make a point of asking the ladies I hook up with how much money they have in their pockets and when last they ate. The results are depressing. If the women find it so hard to get a customer, imagine how the muggers lurking in the shadows feel.

If the godfathers who run Pampanga had any sense, they would spend some serious money on infrastructure, make the bars more welcoming (to part fools from their money) and take other lessons from Thailand. Instead, it is all chaos, much like the Japanese must have found it when they took over in the early 1940's (though I doubt they would have tolerated the messy conditions and bombed out side walks).

I will be on the prowl tonight with money to spend but they don't make it easy. No wonder all of these providers can have zero expectations in life.