Angeles City

[Dg8787]

There has not been a better time for Chinese in America than now. End of story.

[Bushes]

Equality applies to OFO is the usual mantra in the US. The US Pacific railroad was built mostly by imported Chinese laborers. However, they were the only People in world denied entry and not allowed to the US for close to 100 years. All other People just had to land and were allowed to stay. The Chinese Exclusion Act was passed sometime in the 1800's and finally repealed in 1940's. Even the Chinese laborers who build the railroad were pressure or forced to leave the US. "This land is our land."

It also does not help if the Chinese drive Mercedes while most Americans drive something like Volkswagens. Both German but.

During the California gold rush they were also excluded or killed. Presumably because they dug up more than their counterparts.

NZ is going through similar issues. There is talk of a tourist tax. Treating tourist drivers differently.

Well. IIMFITP. They still welcome me here. Treat me well. Mostly speak my language. Like the color of my money. And don't sue me if I make sexist jokes.

It is not a good time to be Chinese in America. China is taking a lot of heat right now for stealing American technology, infringing on patents, dumping cheap steel and aluminum in US markets, and hacking into secure databases to steal info. Many Chinese students are associated with government agencies, and undergo debriefing upon their return home. Generally, when the government of a country blames people from another country for causing problems in the host country, visitors and immigrants from the accused country will experience hostility from natives who blame them for job losses and trade deficits.

Lots of China related issues coming up among people wanting to make America great again. Things like Chinese birth tourism is an issue for people wanting to eliminate birthright citizenship in America. A rise in Chinese immigration is also driving attempts at immigration reform. In recent years, Asian immigration combined exceeded Mexican and Central American immigration. Seemingly, random attacks on Chinese are sometimes not as random as one may think..

[Chocha Monger]

Adding to the below post: "The family of a Chinese college student came to Arizona to tearfully plead for harsh punishment against the woman who shot the 19-year-old to death after a minor car crash, but a judge honored a plea agreement Friday to send her to prison for 25 years. ".

It is not a good time to be Chinese in America. China is taking a lot of heat right now for stealing American technology, infringing on patents, dumping cheap steel and aluminum in US markets, and hacking into secure databases to steal info. Many Chinese students are associated with government agencies, and undergo debriefing upon their return home. Generally, when the government of a country blames people from another country for causing problems in the host country, visitors and immigrants from the accused country will experience hostility from natives who blame them for job losses and trade deficits.

Lots of China related issues coming up among people wanting to make America great again. Things like Chinese birth tourism is an issue for people wanting to eliminate birthright citizenship in America. A rise in Chinese immigration is also driving attempts at immigration reform. In recent years, Asian immigration combined exceeded Mexican and Central American immigration. Seemingly, random attacks on Chinese are sometimes not as random as one may think. It is not unlike an American paying a visit to Iran, Afghanistan or Yemen. They will find people wishing to do them harm.

American mongers may feel safe whoring in Angeles City but terrified in Mindanao, the Sulu Archipelago, and the Zamboanga Peninsula.

[Socker]

It is expensive. The guy can fly from Angeles. But some tourists do like the view and the journey and the full trip experience.

I'm pretty sure a car from AC to PG is between 5 and 7 K but I don't mind doing the bus going there. As you say, "the full trip experience" is fine w / me but coming back is just wrong LOL. If RainMania is correct the plane would be cheaper than a car from PG to Manila. I'll check it out, sounds good.

With air Juan, their fares rarely change. Always 4500-5500 PHP from PG to Manila bay. Last time I did the whole journey, I left PG at 9:30 am on a Sunday morning and arrived at my hotel in AC at around 1 pm.

Early Sunday is the best day to move around there. Thanks for the useful information. Not much of that around here these days. Cheers.

[Bushes]

This is from USA today circa 2017. "Memphis police are searching for suspects accused of intentionally rear-ending cars on the interstates and then carjacking and robbing the drivers. Since Tuesday, there have been three "bump and run" carjacking and robberies, police said. The first occurred at 8:35 am Tuesday on Interstate 55 and Brooks Road."

Another from 2017. "Jackson is accused of killing Carlo Marigliano, a visitor from Naples, Italy who was fatally shot while driving on North Shackleford Road in West Little Rock. Two other suspects were arrested last year in connection with the murder."

Knock on affect is some people don't stop, even for police and were summarily man handled. Memphis is in Tennessee, where the American guy previously mentioned came from. Remember the movie Godfather and how Sonny met his end?

Davis rammed the Chinese student's car from behind. When she stopped, as required by law in traffic collisions. Davis approached her car and shot her multiple times. Bandits, kidnappers, and hitmen use the same tactic in Manila on travelers leaving the airport in taxis or hired private cars.

[Boriman]

Adding to the below post: "The family of a Chinese college student came to Arizona to tearfully plead for harsh punishment against the woman who shot the 19-year-old to death after a minor car crash, but a judge honored a plea agreement Friday to send her to prison for 25 years. ".

[Chocha Monger]

Here is another example of foreigners getting shoot in my US from the SCMP website.

"The family of a Chinese student who was murdered in a road rage incident reacted furiously in court on Wednesday after a judge accepted a plea deal from her killer.

Holly Davis fatally shot 19-year-old Yue Jiang of China in January 2016, while Jiang's boyfriend, Endong Chen, sat next to her, according to police in Tempe, Arizona. Davis had rear-ended the Arizona State University student's car.

After their collision in 2016, Davis got out of her Volkswagen Passat, walked to the driver's side door of the Mercedes Jiang and Chen were in and opened fire, police said..

Holly Davis was a psycho junkie who was out to kill someone to make herself feel better. She even wrote a note warning of her violent intentions. Davis rammed the Chinese student's car from behind. When she stopped, as required by law in traffic collisions. Davis approached her car and shot her multiple times. Bandits, kidnappers, and hitmen use the same tactic in Manila on travelers leaving the airport in taxis or hired private cars.

Feeling safe is subjective and based on a many variables. However, most mongers arriving in the Philippines to fuck the natives have access to more money than 90% of the population here. Many Filipinos live on a level of daily financial desperation where they cannot afford a conscience, and they will knife or put a bullet in the back of your skull for less than what you pay a spotlight dancer for a fuck. They also know the odds of the cops catching them are very low, and there is no capital punishment.

The USA is much larger than the Philippines, and in spite of sensational cases of violence in the US, most Americans will never experience a violent crime, see the body of a murder victim in their lifetime or have a family member murdered. The same is not true for the Philippines. The cheap pussy buffet can put mongers in such a relaxed state; they no longer perceive the dangers around them until it is too late.

[Bushes]

Here is another example of foreigners getting shoot in my US from the SCMP website.

"The family of a Chinese student who was murdered in a road rage incident reacted furiously in court on Wednesday after a judge accepted a plea deal from her killer.

Holly Davis fatally shot 19-year-old Yue Jiang of China in January 2016, while Jiang's boyfriend, Endong Chen, sat next to her, according to police in Tempe, Arizona. Davis had rear-ended the Arizona State University student's car.

After their collision in 2016, Davis got out of her Volkswagen Passat, walked to the driver's side door of the Mercedes Jiang and Chen were in and opened fire, police said.

The student was transported to a nearby hospital but died of multiple gunshot wounds to the torso.

Endong told police that he and Jiang did not know Davis, and they had no interaction with her until she collided with them. He also told police that there was no traffic dispute leading up to the incident.

Endong and Jiang had just come from a grocery shopping trip.

I don't know why. I sometimes feel much safer in the PI.

This was one of the worst American tourist killings during my time coming to the Phils.

[RainMania]

I'll be making a visit to PG in a few months and will check out airfares back to Manila. When returning the bus can turn into a nightmare (traffic) so flying back would be pretty solid.

FWIW the ferry ride to Sabang isn't bad at all, it takes 90 minutes.

With air Juan, their fares rarely change. Always 4500-5500 PHP from PG to Manila bay. Last time I did the whole journey, I left PG at 9:30 am on a Sunday morning and arrived at my hotel in AC at around 1 pm.

[Bushes]

It is expensive. The guy can fly from Angeles. But some tourists do like the view and the journey and the full trip experience.

I'll be making a visit to PG in a few months and will check out airfares back to Manila. When returning the bus can turn into a nightmare (traffic) so flying back would be pretty solid.

FWIW the ferry ride to Sabang isn't bad at all, it takes 90 minutes.

[Socker]

If you don't mind paying a bit extra, take a taxi or bus to Manila and fly with Air Juan seaplane from Manila Bay to Puerto Galera. They have multiple flights on most days and should cost 4500-5500 PHP each way (flight only). The flight between Puerto Galera and Manila is roughly 40-45 minutes.

I'll be making a visit to PG in a few months and will check out airfares back to Manila. When returning the bus can turn into a nightmare (traffic) so flying back would be pretty solid.

FWIW the ferry ride to Sabang isn't bad at all, it takes 90 minutes.

[Bushes]

Just a quick internet search:

"This article quoted official Australian figures and explained that nearly 400 tourists a year (0.01%) die visiting Australia. While most of the deaths are attributed to accidents and health-related issues, the article stated that during the review period, 22 persons died from an unlawful assault or, in other words, were murdered (Guardian 2003)".

FWIW, all these numbers are less than where I came from and am fairly accustomed to. I am always aware of my surrounding so, knock on wood, I have been fairly safe. So, for me, I feel safe doing my activities with the necessary precautions, regardless of where I am. For those who don't feel safe in the PI, my best advice is stay away. Stay far away. Go to safer places.

[Bushes]

FWIW, this is a quote:

"Mexico, for example, has been issued the most travel warnings between 2009 and 2016, with a total of 28. Mali is in second place with 26, then Israel with 25, Pakistan with 25, and Iraq with 24. If you compare that to the number of American tourist deaths in the same time span—filtered to only include homicides, executions, and terrorist attacks—Mexico does, in fact, come out on top with 598 Americans killed."

You can also search "Forbes Man accused of killing Italian tourist mistakenly released."

I fear the number of tourists "ending" in US is probably quite high. I noticed that my rentals in FL tend to be better disguised after numerous incidents over the years.

I feel a lot safer in PI (and Asia) than in many parts of the US and Mexico. You will get a bullet for your shoes or sunglasses. Yes, I did visit the the border towns and EP.

This was one of the worst American tourist killings during my time coming to the Phils. This guy who had never been out of his home state of Tennessee was gunned down by tandem team on a motorcycle in the "no man's land" that used to exist between the old Europhil Hotel and the Lewis Grand. For whatever reason, the guy ended up there, was shot and staggered back and collapsed on that little bit of lawn in front of the LGH and died on the way to the hospital. And, to top it off, Philippine officials gouged the grieving family on the expenses in returning the body.

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...he-philippines

[Docwiltro]

This was one of the worst American tourist killings during my time coming to the Phils. This guy who had never been out of his home state of Tennessee was gunned down by tandem team on a motorcycle in the "no man's land" that used to exist between the old Europhil Hotel and the Lewis Grand. For whatever reason, the guy ended up there, was shot and staggered back and collapsed on that little bit of lawn in front of the LGH and died on the way to the hospital. And, to top it off, Philippine officials gouged the grieving family on the expenses in returning the body.

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...he-philippines

Correct. Fly in, get what you want, fly out. ST, ST.

The elderly gent shot in the back of head, Garfields, was a first time tourist. Some of us, talk about the dark side of the Phils, to help newbies understand, it looks like the Disney Land of sex, but there is a dark side to it too. I have survived unscathed from 1974 to today, respecting that.

Fun, fun, if it isn't fun, forget it. For me, Phils has been fun (ST, no residency).

[Bushes]

NI, many responses already. FWIW, I usually fly, though I query how much safer that is in the end should something go wrong. If you are not on a schedule I suspect you will be fine. If you are on a schedule, flying back a couple days early might be suggested. Ferrys in the PI do sink or get cancelled. Weather is more a factor depending on when you plan to travel. I am a good swimmer but I not sure if I can make it to shore even with a BCD, Then there is my fear of abandonment like what happened to several tourist divers in Australia.

Want to go from Angeles to Batangas Pier then obviously Sabang.

Will taxi it all the way to the pier. So boat to Sabang takes approx 1 HR from Batangas. What would time be from Angeles to Batangas. Any better times / days to travel? Maybe not peak HR and not weekend? Do I have to go through manila? Cost? Should I break the trip up and stay in Manila overnight??

Appreciate.