Angeles City

[Fastpiston]

I used to visit AC a lot, and have noticed a sharp deterioration over many years. Covid reset it into Korealand. The forum reports confirm my view. Price / Quality now is too high. I'm focusing on other opportunities, outside the bar scene.

[WestCoast1]

Very few Koreans in Subic and they don't own any bars there but the selection of girls is much smaller.

So we should make Subic our new haunt.

I guess the only good thing is that their mediocre San Miguel Beer Brewery isn't owned by Anheuser Busch.

Now *that's* funny!

Pic just for fun.

[Beavis]

Have to fully agree with you.

Yes indeed the major problem for Angeles visitors is that even if one is just a little bit fussy one has to bar hop multiple bars to find even an average looking girl, there is a definite severe shortage of attractive slim girls, once one has spotted the girl he likes one has the mammoth task of getting the princesses attention in the 1st place, why, because her attention is fully on the younger, high spending Koreans, many, many girls are drinks only girls, many many are Korean only girls, many many are cherrie girls, that leaves a very small if at all selection of available girls for mr westerner.

It is what it is, one can either greatly lower ones girl expectations or find another mongering destination where the girls are younger, prettier and don't only look to fuck with certain nationalities.

Some will have us believe that all is Rosie in Angeles, there is bar girl for every taste they will tell us, how they know what my taste is or anyone else's taste in women is mind blowing, just because one finds his type of girl does not mean anyone else would find her attractive.

Was out on the town several times over the last couple of weeks, this town is 99% Koreans, they spend the big money, they have the few better looking girls that will actually barfine on their arm, I look at some of the westerners out at breakfast in the mornings with their girl from last night and all I can say is that many many are having to lower their girl choice to very low levels in order to get laid.

Was in Thailand for songkran celebrations for couple of days, must say the general quality of Thai girls is high, one just needs to pop into terminal 21 mall in Bangkok and its like walking into a fashion shoot, no way of telling if some of these girls sold their pussy by the hour but for anyone who has the time to invest in a quality girlfriend then many to be found here.

I go to Angeles every week and cannot argue with one thing said here. Also have found that more than half of those slim, hot girls are terrible once you get them back to your room. As for finding a smoking hot girl that is incredible in the bedroom, well the odds are slightly better than finding the unicorn farm. And yes the Koreans have taken over Angeles. Many bars are Korean only and some of them have different bar fine prices for OTK (Other than Korean) customers. If you ever saw Born in East LA you will find the connection to the OTK acronym.

99% of the ones in AC are rude and obnoxious also. They think they are better than anyone else on earth. Not just the Westerners either, this also goes for the Japanese, Chinese, or any other Asian race. They even have their own Korean task Force Police in AC. I saw a party of 8 of them one night at the the B & B Grill. 4 Korean men with 4 Filipinas. They all ate and drank then when they left they pulled all of their chairs out and left them in the aisle so anyone needing to get to the restroom would have to move them to get by. They left 4 small coins as a tip to the server who had made several trips to their table for about an hour.

Very few Koreans in Subic and they don't own any bars there but the selection of girls is much smaller. As for cheap mongering it is pretty much non existent anymore. Still a lot cheaper here than the western world but by the time you include travel costs Colombia and Costa Rica basically costs the same unless you plan to stay for several months. As for flying 20-30 hours to spend 2 weeks in the PH then doing the same to get back home it's no longer a good return on your investment for the pussy to dollar ratio.

I guess the only good thing is that their mediocre San Miguel Beer Brewery isn't owned by Anheuser Busch.

[NapaSlapper]

I agree with everything you said %100. I no longer think angeles city is a good option for mongering anymore if you are going for two weeks holiday.

The biggest issue is finding girls. First there are not enough girls and when you start to remove the ugly girls, drink only girls, korean only girls, I'm on my period girls, asking way too much girls, want to leave too soon girls you going to end up with like 2 fuckable girls in the whole city and by the time you find one of those 2 fuckable girls you already been to 6 bars and bought 10 drinks and 5 LD don't forget to add that to the cost of the barfine..

Have to fully agree with you.

Yes indeed the major problem for Angeles visitors is that even if one is just a little bit fussy one has to bar hop multiple bars to find even an average looking girl, there is a definite severe shortage of attractive slim girls, once one has spotted the girl he likes one has the mammoth task of getting the princesses attention in the 1st place, why, because her attention is fully on the younger, high spending Koreans, many, many girls are drinks only girls, many many are Korean only girls, many many are cherrie girls, that leaves a very small if at all selection of available girls for mr westerner.

It is what it is, one can either greatly lower ones girl expectations or find another mongering destination where the girls are younger, prettier and don't only look to fuck with certain nationalities.

Some will have us believe that all is Rosie in Angeles, there is bar girl for every taste they will tell us, how they know what my taste is or anyone else's taste in women is mind blowing, just because one finds his type of girl does not mean anyone else would find her attractive.

Was out on the town several times over the last couple of weeks, this town is 99% Koreans, they spend the big money, they have the few better looking girls that will actually barfine on their arm, I look at some of the westerners out at breakfast in the mornings with their girl from last night and all I can say is that many many are having to lower their girl choice to very low levels in order to get laid.

Was in Thailand for songkran celebrations for couple of days, must say the general quality of Thai girls is high, one just needs to pop into terminal 21 mall in Bangkok and its like walking into a fashion shoot, no way of telling if some of these girls sold their pussy by the hour but for anyone who has the time to invest in a quality girlfriend then many to be found here.

[Transporter]

I think the Koreans don't necessarily have more money than the Westerners, but they chase stunners more dedicated and team up. Pretty girls from the AC dayshift get scooped up by 10 AM and stay with Koreans for days. In the Hammer night club they book VIP tables and team up for the best looking freelancers. In Pasay (Manila) it's not different, Korean and Chinese night clubs have the prettiest girls. A Makati taxi driver said that the Burgos street is a monopoly with high barfine agreements between bars.

"These girls go with Koreans not because of how they hunt for girls but that the girls prefer small dicks".

[Transporter]

I don't really like AC, so I have been avoiding it for some time now (nothing wrong with it, it's just not my drip). Needed to hook up with some old friends, and rendezvous with another, so dau is a very central location. Anyhoo, got ripped and had a blast last night, but this is the first time (ever) that a girl asked me if it was okay to go ahead and put it in because we didn't have a condom.

[Igmc32]

I think the Koreans don't necessarily have more money than the Westerners, but they chase stunners more dedicated and team up. Pretty girls from the AC dayshift get scooped up by 10 AM and stay with Koreans for days. In the Hammer night club they book VIP tables and team up for the best looking freelancers. In Pasay (Manila) it's not different, Korean and Chinese night clubs have the prettiest girls. A Makati taxi driver said that the Burgos street is a monopoly with high barfine agreements between bars.

[Igmc32]

I think the Koreans don't necessarily have more money than the Westerners, but they chase stunners more dedicated and team up. Pretty girls from the AC dayshift get scooped up by 10 AM and stay with Koreans for days. In the Hammer night club they book VIP tables and team up for the best looking freelancers. In Pasay (Manila) it's not different, Korean and Chinese night clubs have the prettiest girls. A Makati taxi driver said that the Burgos street is a monopoly with high barfine agreements between bars.

[VictorHugo999]

Hi Bro see.

Thanks for the analysis of AC situation, to put things into perspective.

Yet one can't help but feel. That things are. Not. Getting. Better over. Time.

Aprreciate, Victor.

I agree with everything you said %100. I no longer think angeles city is a good option for mongering anymore if you are going for two weeks holiday.

The biggest issue is finding girls. First there are not enough girls and when you start to remove the ugly girls, drink only girls, korean only girls, I'm on my period girls, asking way too much girls, want to leave too soon girls you going to end up with like 2 fuckable girls in the whole city and by the time you find one of those 2 fuckable girls you already been to 6 bars and bought 10 drinks and 5 LD don't forget to add that to the cost of the barfine.

Thailand is a much better option as there are way more working girls in thailand and more venues to find girls. There are BJ and massage parlors, online, bars, freelancers. I can easily find a girl anytime of the day without having to deal with the bars. I can go to a massage shop, pick a girl pay 3500 peso /2000 baht and fuck her without having to buy her a drink and convince her to have sex with me like with the broken bar system. The cost is for p4 p is very similar to angeles but its easier to get. The food, transportation and accommodation are cheaper on average in thailand and the quality is high. I assume we all agree on how bad the food in the philippines is.

But if you are a younger guy staying for a month or longer and you are willing to invest in dating civilian girls no other country can match the philippines. I used to stay in manila and find good looking, extremely low mileage girls on tinder for free and all it takes is a couple of nice dinner dates. And those girls are low maintenance and extremely horny once you get them. Like you can get 6 pops a day bareback with your new girlfriend and if you do the math that will cost you at least 25 k a day in the bars if we assume you will get 2 pops out of each girl.

[RedJoe]

We went a group of friends 10 April '23 and a few days. Stayed at ABC and triked to Walking Street (100 p) I picked up a chick in Vikings / Pirates and barfined 4500 pesos (72 Eur) for a sweet 23 why / o chick called Mary. Took her to the hotel and went to the club where we went swimming and she and a group of girls danced on the beerpong table. In the room she performed well and BBBJ / CIM / FS no issues!

[Goferring]

I agree with everything you said %100. I no longer think angeles city is a good option for mongering anymore if you are going for two weeks holiday.

The biggest issue is finding girls. First there are not enough girls and when you start to remove the ugly girls, drink only girls, korean only girls, I'm on my period girls, asking way too much girls, want to leave too soon girls you going to end up with like 2 fuckable girls in the whole city and by the time you find one of those 2 fuckable girls you already been to 6 bars and bought 10 drinks and 5 LD don't forget to add that to the cost of the barfine....

But if you are a younger guy staying for a month or longer and you are willing to invest in dating civilian girls no other country can match the philippines. I used to stay in manila and find good looking, extremely low mileage girls on tinder for free and all it takes is a couple of nice dinner dates. And those girls are low maintenance and extremely horny once you get them. Like you can get 6 pops a day bareback with your new girlfriend and if you do the math that will cost you at least 25 k a day in the bars if we assume you will get 2 pops out of each girl.

I don't disagree with you. Every guy likes different things and I'm certainly no AC fanboy but you are comparing apples and oranges. A 60 yo two week warrior in Sincity is different to a young resident chasing good girls in the big smoke.

Don't forget that bars are hardly the only way to get laid in AC and anyone unfortunate enough to be stuck there for a long period can also go the ground work and good girl route. Hell, there are many girls outside of bars who take minimal investment. I guess girls form a spectrum rather than just "good" and "bad".

AC also has the benefit that, despite comments of "visiting friends" or "on the way to Subic" everyone knows why a white guy is in town. There is no need to explain intentions and anyone replying to messages knows exactly what ultimate expectations are

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

The biggest issue is finding girls. First there are not enough girls and when you start to remove the ugly girls, drink only girls, korean only girls, I'm on my period girls, asking way too much girls, want to leave too soon girls you going to end up with like 2 fuckable girls in the whole city and by the time you find one of those 2 fuckable girls you already been to 6 bars and bought 10 drinks and 5 LD don't forget to add that to the cost of the barfine.

With the re-opening about a year ago, I was going off the new inbound reports at the time. FG and MM were having a great time. Mask rules in AC were already pretty much forgotten. At the same time the re-opening was happening in NRC / Burgos, and the gents didn't seem to take to the stricter NCR rules. My recommendation was for everyone to just go to AC and get their rocks off, regardless of the issues stated by BC above. Even with the issues above, and having been there last year, I think the point-and-shoot gents need to make a simple decision:

1) Pay p10 k for a Burgos LT. There are few issues with Burgos girls, as they receive the bulk of their payment from the tip in the morning; keeping the customer happy is important. Or.

2) Pay p5 k up-front for an AC girl and hope she doesn't run (or give you other BS in the room about a condom, or no BJ, don'tCIP, or such). Or.

3) Tinder (which is not point-and-shoot, as you can not feel her up or ogle her like you can a bargirl).

4) Get thee to Thailand.

I used to stay in manila and find good looking, extremely low mileage girls on tinder for free and all it takes is a couple of nice dinner dates. And those girls are low maintenance and extremely horny once you get them. Like you can get 6 pops a day bareback with your new girlfriend and if you do the math that will cost you at least 25 k a day in the bars if we assume you will get 2 pops out of each girl.

SIX? Sana all!

[Transporter]

Disclaimer: I have not been to AC in quite a few years, so definitely not an expert there anymore.

I will be rolling past DAU on my way northward next week, and thought I would stop buy and hang for a day or two to drink with old buddies. At least that was the thought, so I gave them a call to see how are things. To my surprise they said BF's are now 4 K except for the 8 K ones that cater to the koreans. I said interesting, but I am okay with that as I have always been able to find what I want regardless. I was told that bars open at 10 in the morning (korean owned). I said great, I usually start my rounds at noon anyway. I was also told that the Koreans rent private villas now, and have private vans that roll in at 10 and cherry pick the girls back to there private villas to party, so by noon the crowds been thinned out.

Times sure have changed.

I think this has peaked my interest a little bit. Getting more tempted to stop by now.

[BroComplex]

As a follow on from my very well received post on 28.2. 23 titled never visited which gave a Guide for those that have never visited Angeles but have thought of visiting but not sure what to expect well here is the follow up with a few more thoughts.

I agree with everything you said %100. I no longer think angeles city is a good option for mongering anymore if you are going for two weeks holiday.

The biggest issue is finding girls. First there are not enough girls and when you start to remove the ugly girls, drink only girls, korean only girls, I'm on my period girls, asking way too much girls, want to leave too soon girls you going to end up with like 2 fuckable girls in the whole city and by the time you find one of those 2 fuckable girls you already been to 6 bars and bought 10 drinks and 5 LD don't forget to add that to the cost of the barfine.

Thailand is a much better option as there are way more working girls in thailand and more venues to find girls. There are BJ and massage parlors, online, bars, freelancers. I can easily find a girl anytime of the day without having to deal with the bars. I can go to a massage shop, pick a girl pay 3500 peso /2000 baht and fuck her without having to buy her a drink and convince her to have sex with me like with the broken bar system. The cost is for p4 p is very similar to angeles but its easier to get. The food, transportation and accommodation are cheaper on average in thailand and the quality is high. I assume we all agree on how bad the food in the philippines is.

But if you are a younger guy staying for a month or longer and you are willing to invest in dating civilian girls no other country can match the philippines. I used to stay in manila and find good looking, extremely low mileage girls on tinder for free and all it takes is a couple of nice dinner dates. And those girls are low maintenance and extremely horny once you get them. Like you can get 6 pops a day bareback with your new girlfriend and if you do the math that will cost you at least 25 k a day in the bars if we assume you will get 2 pops out of each girl.

[Goferring]

I'll also write some reports (if there's anything noteworthy related to this forum's topic) about my other destinations in the Philippines: Makati, Siargao, Camiguin, and Cebu.

I'd be interested in real time info on Siargo and Camiguin.

Thanks.