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  1. #30567

    Angeles is expensive.

    Its expensive compared to pre covid.

    Its expensive compared to the Clark Base days pre 1990.

    But its damn cheap compared to other locations.

    Case in point look at the Guadalajara, Mexico page on ISG. Someone went in a gogo bar there:

    $60 cover charge.

    $29 ladies drinks.

    $590, YES FOLKS FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY US DOLLARS barfine for ST (10,000 mexican pesos).

    AND PEOPLE ARE STILL BITCHING ABOUT $90 ANGELES BARFINES FOR OVERNIGHT STAYS?

    Oy vey.

  2. #30566
    Looks like our esteemed local expert is back, but I've been here for two days and can confirm he is talking NonSense. The place was pretty hopping on Friday and Saturday night. I didn't have a problem finding a cute 21 year old with nice su sus and hips. On my first night, and she worked hard to please me. On Saturday there were a couplenot old, slim cuties at Avalon, and quite a few cuties at Gecco's. I scored a 21 year old beauty with a perfect body. I know looks are subjective, but she's a perfect 10: tall, slim, flat tummy, no baby, and amazing perky su sus. Only issue is she was fresh from Samar and inexperienced. She said she only had boom boom with her ex boyfriend one time. Maybe he dumped her because it was a huge effort to get her to BF and eventually get her naked. She was crazy tight and I took a while get it in, but I eventually banged her for a long time. Unfortunately she didn't want boom boom in the morning. I'm here for a while, so I might try again with her since she's so stunning. Although she's not up to NS's standards I'm sure.

    On the down side, the place is still a shithole and there's nothing to do during the day. And it's dangerous. I way trying to cross a street and a guy pick-pocked my iPhone. Buy a cheap phone you wouldn't care about losing, and keep you iPhone in the safe.

  3. #30565
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    So I can go there and bang all the hot girls.
    This is when real mongers come out to play imo. When all the weekend millionaires leave this is a perfect storm for real mongers. A little game, a little money, and a lot of fun.

  4. #30564
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    So I can go there and bang all the hot girls.
    Yuh, me too, P123. While the quality has declined and prices have soared, there is still a lot of fun to be had. Even amongst non-bar girls if one has game. An occasional gem if one is lucky! Cheers!

  5. #30563

    Naysayers; Please keep telling everyone how bad it is

    So I can go there and bang all the hot girls.

  6. #30562
    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]
    AC is still imo a great hunting ground with a lot of willing and attractive girls.

    Barfined a girl from vikings all most always do but this was one of the most disastrous barfines I have had in a while was a horrible time. This girl wanted covered BJ and no DATY or kissing of any kind. A big red flag is if they are in an "open relationship" with another monger I didn't know this until I had my dick in hand chatting with her about "life". They negotiate a sponsorship deal and continue to work at the bar. That's what you get with these hotter looking girls I usually don't partake in these "hot" looking girls and for good reason I wasn't happy she asked for a tip and I said "go play in traffic" which flew over this very "smart" girls head as she walked out of my life hopefully I never see this girl again would be a reminder of my failure to filter out these loonies. Felt more like a doctor exam like I was getting milked than sex.
    Did I read that correctly? Covered BJ in Angeles city? For a 5 k Peso bar fine? Okay, maybe it was an isolated incident but these things have a way of spreading. Default LT became mostly ST. Nudity from bars is gone. Girls wearing full length dresses on stage. And now we hear of covered BJ in the land of unrestricted BBFS! Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse!

  7. #30561

    Perspective Based on Experience

    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your honest thoughts, I tend to agree fully.

    Yes those of us that were around many moons ago and went to bars that had hundreds of 18/19 year old slim, attractive straight from the province girls that would all without exception barfine and fuck all night for a few hundred pesos are mainly shocked at what the new angeles city has become.

    Yes those days are never coming back, not even close, hence why angeles has been so dead for western punters, as many have said many destinations the world over, especially asia where a good time can be had at many times the same or cheaper prices as angeles.

    Punters are not fools, if they are not happy they tend to vote with their feet as can be seen by many many empty western bars on walking st and also fields avenue.
    In my opinion, guys who think Angeles City is great usually are new or relatively new to Angeles City. For guys who have been visiting Angeles City for years, it is hard not to compare the experience to the old days and be disappointed. If you have no point of comparison, and you're just comparing it to your home country, then it is great. But if you have experienced the way it was, it is a shadow of what it used to be. That doesn't mean that you won't' have a good time in Angeles City, it just means it is not as great or cheap as it used to be years ago. I first visited Angeles City 35 years old and the attitude of the girls back then was very different.

  8. #30560

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    Nice report and glad you enjoyed. But having to buy a drink before stepping inside and 9 k Barfine? I am not paying $200 to fuck a Filipina in AC. I understand inflation but no way. And girls wearing dresses in bars, going only with Asians again, sorry no. I still remember the days of naked girls licking whipped cream off each other in the bars before fucking your brains out all night for 2 K barfine and you would have to kick them out the next day or they would never leave. I know those days are never coming back but once you have had that I can't abide the new AC. I don't think I'm ever going back.
    Thanks for your honest thoughts, I tend to agree fully.

    Yes those of us that were around many moons ago and went to bars that had hundreds of 18/19 year old slim, attractive straight from the province girls that would all without exception barfine and fuck all night for a few hundred pesos are mainly shocked at what the new angeles city has become.

    Yes those days are never coming back, not even close, hence why angeles has been so dead for western punters, as many have said many destinations the world over, especially asia where a good time can be had at many times the same or cheaper prices as angeles.

    Punters are not fools, if they are not happy they tend to vote with their feet as can be seen by many many empty western bars on walking st and also fields avenue.

  9. #30559

    Attractive

    Quote Originally Posted by Robotron  [View Original Post]
    Is it just me or are all of these women unattractive and what separates them from those other countries like Thailand is the effort in bed? I don't get it. I don't have access to fully view photos yet while looking at the photo galleries all I see is flat chested old women or young girls who look like they're straight from the 2000's.

    Help me understand the hype surrounding the Philippines or show some stunners who are stacked, whether escort examples or personal photos and where to find them if I ever visit.
    Attractive or not is in the eye of the beholder, take example here of the recent girls photos posted that guys claim are attractive, some would spend thousands of dollars and fly around the world for such quality, in truth I and many others would not even drive the 10 minutes it would take me to reach angeles for this quality of girl, but each to their own.

    Always found by me and many friends, those that set the girl bar to low are having the best time in angeles, those that are just a little more fussy in their bed partners are not happy at all in angeles.

    As far as comparing pattaya or Bangkok for that matter to angeles then angeles does not compare on any front, not the girls, infrastructure, the food, the quality and price of hotels, things to do when not drinking in bars, personal safety etc.

    Angeles is fine if one has money to burn, does not take exception to being refused barfine by many of the slightly better looking girls, having to bar hop many bars to find slim young fairly attractive girls, then having to wade ones way through the countless cherry girls, constant mens girls, early runner girls, drinks only girls, korean only girls etc of angeles.

    The biggest difference between the two places is that in angeles if one can actually get a reasonably attractive girl to barfine (most if not all are asian only girls) then one has to pay the full barfine including the bar and girls share up front before leaving the bar opening one up to no recourse should things not work out back at the room.

    Thailand on the other hand is pay the smaller bar fine share at the bar and pay the much larger share directly to the girls once the deed has been done and one is happy.

    Please make a trip to both, see what you think, please come back and give us your thoughts.

  10. #30558
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    Maybe you got the name wrong because I think Club Asia has been closed for several years. What was the location?
    Its club asia adjacent maybe dragons den but I lump them together there are girls who try to usher you in and a guard but the place reeks. Even if Club asia is closed from the outside it has an extremely bad odor coming from it. While I was there this section of the street was just full of trash. Kind of nasty to be honest maybe trash was on strike that week.

  11. #30557

    Niftys and Rio

    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]
    Let's talk about the perimeter.
    The 2 bars next to Garfield's I call them Green and Red .
    I believe they are called Niftys and Rio, been around for decades.

  12. #30556

    Night Moves

    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]
    Let's talk about the perimeter.

    A little further down nearer to the new margarita station XXX and a few biker bars which is not my scene so I usually don't go in these is not too bad the quality of girls alone this strip suffers but makes up for it in lower bar fines around the 2500-3500 area.
    I believe the "Biker bar" you mention is called Night Moves and yeah, it is owned by a well know group of bikers with patches. But in spite of that its probably the best bar in that area. They have some cute girls in there and I've never had a problem with the owners or clientele. Shit, one of the owners even called a trike for me after I barfined a girl.

  13. #30555

    Club Asia?

    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]

    Club asia smells horrible like several people died in that place and were left to rot. I don't know what's going on with this place but easy pass.
    Maybe you got the name wrong because I think Club Asia has been closed for several years. What was the location?

  14. #30554
    I've barfined from most of the bars on WS, and the 'green' bar you speak of on perimeter. Check my earlier post, that was quite an adventure. Good memories and good sex but damn that room is a creepshow. But hey that's part of the charm. I've never had a bad experience from Lollipop, Masquerade, Qbar, or Shooters. That's not to say I haven't had good experiences from others, but these are generally a sure thing. Damn I want to get back soon. The US is so boring.

    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]
    I will preface this with I was pressed for time this trip so all my encounters were ST and I paid around the same price at all the bars give or take a K around 5 k. I tip around 0-1 k depending on if they do what I ask and how pleased I am with their work.

    AC is still imo a great hunting ground with a lot of willing and attractive girls.

    Club asia smells horrible like several people died in that place and were left to rot. I don't know what's going on with this place but easy pass.

    Barfined a girl from vikings all most always do but this was one of the most disastrous barfines I have had in a while was a horrible time. This girl wanted covered BJ and no DATY or kissing of any kind. A big red flag is if they are in an "open relationship" with another monger I didn't know this until I had my dick in hand chatting with her about "life". They negotiate a sponsorship deal and continue to work at the bar. That's what you get with these hotter looking girls I usually don't partake in these "hot" looking girls and for good reason I wasn't happy she asked for a tip and I said "go play in traffic" which flew over this very "smart" girls head as she walked out of my life hopefully I never see this girl again would be a reminder of my failure to filter out these loonies. Felt more like a doctor exam like I was getting milked than sex.

    Barfined a girl from Skyfalls bar she was extremely sweet and easy going made for an amazing fuck. Had an amazing relaxed and passionate session just what I needed not a bad selection of girls at this bar I would go back the next trip. I don't know where these new crop of girls got their moves but they try to rip your dick out at the root. Its fun until fear takes over that I'm going to sprain my dick. How do I explain that one?

    Geckos no bar fine here but a honorable mention is sill a great bar has been the most fun place to hang out for a western foreigner for more than 20 years and still is. Was the first bar I ever barfiend from back in the day and is still going strong. I'm glad to see this. Any of you guys who keep the light on at this place hats off to you. It's a sanctuary in a sea of some dreary Korean owned bars.

    Barfiend a girl from the bar in between soya and ace can't remember the name but they have more than a few bar fineable girls at this bar. Had a good time she was very accommodating and over all solid bar fine can't complain about this one. She had a big smile on her face while she gave head all the way until I came in her can't beat that.

    Final bar fine was at club sky was a massive mistake they lied about how new she was and how she didn't have a baby. Club sky has fallen from grace and I most likely will take a pass on it the next time. Even though they have 1 or 2 other girls I would be interested in I wasn't happy with the misinformation. This girl just wanted to get my dick in her mouth and when we started fucking all she could say was faster at first I thought she was into it but I soon was deflated and she was telling me to hurry up and cum. She just kept saying my dick was too big? Here is a secret guys (it small) this is my selling point to girls who are scared of western guys I say I have a small dick and show it and they usually give me a pass. If this girl was fucking guys with a smaller dick than me they wouldn't be able to get a full stroke in. I don't have a micro penis but its not large by any means. Was a buzz kill because she kept trying to hurry shit up.

    On the topic of korean owned bars. The girls I've spoken to are starting to turn on the korean owners. This is NOT a racist jab its just what these girls are saying. They say they are mayabang. Which translates to "arrogant". Don't shoot the messenger I am just relaying what these girls are saying. A lot of these girls are transplants from the Korean KTVs from Korea town and in koreatown you pay about 5-6 k for the drinks and selection fees ect. And the bar fines for koreans only is about 10 k. But the girls say it is EXTREEMLY boring at these establishments even if the bar fines are higher they choose to work in more lively bars with more interaction with guests.

  15. #30553

    A few bar fines.

    I will preface this with I was pressed for time this trip so all my encounters were ST and I paid around the same price at all the bars give or take a K around 5 k. I tip around 0-1 k depending on if they do what I ask and how pleased I am with their work.

    AC is still imo a great hunting ground with a lot of willing and attractive girls.

    Club asia smells horrible like several people died in that place and were left to rot. I don't know what's going on with this place but easy pass.

    Barfined a girl from vikings all most always do but this was one of the most disastrous barfines I have had in a while was a horrible time. This girl wanted covered BJ and no DATY or kissing of any kind. A big red flag is if they are in an "open relationship" with another monger I didn't know this until I had my dick in hand chatting with her about "life". They negotiate a sponsorship deal and continue to work at the bar. That's what you get with these hotter looking girls I usually don't partake in these "hot" looking girls and for good reason I wasn't happy she asked for a tip and I said "go play in traffic" which flew over this very "smart" girls head as she walked out of my life hopefully I never see this girl again would be a reminder of my failure to filter out these loonies. Felt more like a doctor exam like I was getting milked than sex.

    Barfined a girl from Skyfalls bar she was extremely sweet and easy going made for an amazing fuck. Had an amazing relaxed and passionate session just what I needed not a bad selection of girls at this bar I would go back the next trip. I don't know where these new crop of girls got their moves but they try to rip your dick out at the root. Its fun until fear takes over that I'm going to sprain my dick. How do I explain that one?

    Geckos no bar fine here but a honorable mention is sill a great bar has been the most fun place to hang out for a western foreigner for more than 20 years and still is. Was the first bar I ever barfiend from back in the day and is still going strong. I'm glad to see this. Any of you guys who keep the light on at this place hats off to you. It's a sanctuary in a sea of some dreary Korean owned bars.

    Barfiend a girl from the bar in between soya and ace can't remember the name but they have more than a few bar fineable girls at this bar. Had a good time she was very accommodating and over all solid bar fine can't complain about this one. She had a big smile on her face while she gave head all the way until I came in her can't beat that.

    Final bar fine was at club sky was a massive mistake they lied about how new she was and how she didn't have a baby. Club sky has fallen from grace and I most likely will take a pass on it the next time. Even though they have 1 or 2 other girls I would be interested in I wasn't happy with the misinformation. This girl just wanted to get my dick in her mouth and when we started fucking all she could say was faster at first I thought she was into it but I soon was deflated and she was telling me to hurry up and cum. She just kept saying my dick was too big? Here is a secret guys (it small) this is my selling point to girls who are scared of western guys I say I have a small dick and show it and they usually give me a pass. If this girl was fucking guys with a smaller dick than me they wouldn't be able to get a full stroke in. I don't have a micro penis but its not large by any means. Was a buzz kill because she kept trying to hurry shit up.

    On the topic of korean owned bars. The girls I've spoken to are starting to turn on the korean owners. This is NOT a racist jab its just what these girls are saying. They say they are mayabang. Which translates to "arrogant". Don't shoot the messenger I am just relaying what these girls are saying. A lot of these girls are transplants from the Korean KTVs from Korea town and in koreatown you pay about 5-6 k for the drinks and selection fees ect. And the bar fines for koreans only is about 10 k. But the girls say it is EXTREEMLY boring at these establishments even if the bar fines are higher they choose to work in more lively bars with more interaction with guests.

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