Angeles City

[Amadeuss]

The funny thing is they seem to follow a set of rules. Never use any names all 3 start message Hi Hon (Never say your name)) then they always say

Dnt 4r get breakfast (or eat) Dnt forget to rest. The 3 of them mums are sick need money? Never answer any direct questions.
My Question Is there a book out there on how to handle punters and make money?

Call it "street wise". They have no other topic to talk with their friends how to hook a "poreigner". Just play along the same game:
"Oh hon, I just lost my job. No money now. Miss u"
"Honey take care god bless you. My Western Union is broke. Can not load"

But then, if its not a 10/10 super fucking star... why to keep them? They will move on and once you back its unlikely that you will meet one of them again.

[Jack James]

My last visit to the fields me and pinball wizard and the bencong visited ponetails club,we arrived around 7pm. i brought a ld for one of the girls from out the front.We had been bar hopping for about 5hrs we stayed there for around 4hrs.The wizard and the bencong picked 2 girls each and got the girls a Ld, then an 1hr went by an then there were 10 girls with us.We didnt care we only went out drinking,we had other girls waiting back in the room. My point being when we left the girls at the club they got upset because we did not BF then.IT was like we cheated on them,were else in the world can you go and have girls getting upset when you dont take them home. Sometimes i think we in the western countries have got it wrong.

[Paulb]

I think there is a book or a set of rules that these girls follow. I have been to the fields 3 times now it is paradise, but I have given 7 different girls my email add and they call me honey, honeybunch, baby, sir, never call me by my name. The girls even change thier phone numbers after a few days when I get home they txt me with there new number. I think they have a network or system which they go by can any senior members add there 2 cents worth.

The phone number yes thats happen to me. I think If the girls think they have a fish on line they change to a new number less chance of making a mistake .Now I bet what ever time you text her she will never reply to you straight away. They need to shuffle sim cards .Jessy James I think most of these bar girls are a lot smarter than they make out.

[Mc Don]

Mc Don:

Very interesting! And what exactly is the difference between a 'bargirl' and a 'normal' filipina? Just curiousity!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

To be honest I did this a long time ago, '04-'05 on one of my first visits to AC. This was the first and only time that I purposely did something like that and quickly worked out the obvious.

The difference is there is a lot less headache and hustle with a bargirl. For the price we pay in AC a bargirl is the right way to go. In other parts of the world where cash can be an issue then maybe pursuing a freebee is a viable option.

In terms of performance I wasn't disappointed with the 'normal' girls but it took a whole night of dancing and drinking outside the tourist area (the area where I was comfortable) in bars and clubs I didn't know.

It was a different experience but since my time in AC is limited simplicity sometimes is the way to go.

[Malibu21]

I just found that cebu and baguio also full of korean, bad news for somebody. The korean have direct flight to cebu and suddenly you feel you are in korea without go to korea. If u like to fish some korean chicks, better buy your ticket to cebu now.

I guess the korean in angeles city and cebu is difference, so the tips also difference. The korean in angeles have more bar fine experience and maybe richer, so they always tips. But the korean in cebu is more like tourist and full of student that go there to study english. The tourist don't know much about the tips culture and the student are not rich enough. So the cebu korean have a bad reputation there. Maybe i'm wrong, because i never go to cebu. I just know that the korean are quite serious all the time, but they are very crazy and funny sometime when in their own club.

[Normad2020]

My first trip to AC was on my own as my other friends decided to go to Pattaya (in the mist of the protest). I never put on an attitude when I entered a new place. I am all smile and if I found some of the girls interesting my first LD is normally for the mamasan. I do this in the hope that the mamasan will "guide" me in my choice of girls. I have not been disappointed with this approach in my ventures to Bangkok, Jakarta, Pattaya and now AC.

I do not think they were being discriminating rather they were cautious. Once they know I am not Korean / Japanese, their attitude normally with turn very friendly and began to be playful.

This is not the first place I have been asked that question as I have also experienced the same in Bangkok and Pattaya. I do not know what the Korean / Japanese have done to make the situation as it is. Maybe some other members here might be able to enlighten us given their numerous experiences and possible encounters with the people of these two Countries.

Cheers
normad2020

I'm Chinese too. I've notice the door girls are less likely to yell out to you if you're Asian. That's what I've noticed when sitting at Kokomo's and watching the crowd.

I don't think it's because they don't value Asian patronage. Asian folks tend to be more stiff, more serious and would simply walk pass the girls without acknowledging them. The younger white folks are the ones usually riled and crazy with the door girls. The girls are simply being fun to those whom they think will be fun to them in return. Perfectly understandable.

Inside the bar, I don't feel any discrimination. I think it's because of how I conduct myself. Most Asian guys usually walk in with a large group, talk only amongst themselves and barely acknowledge their surroundings until it's time to pick the meat. I don't do that. I go alone. I walk in with a smile, maybe wave to some of the girls. I may even go to the restroom and, as I walk pass some girls, give them a high five. I will usually buy the waitress a drink so she'd sit with me. As I talk to her, I (hopefully) show that I'm a fun sociable guy, not some creep or asshole. Above the music, the girls may hear me speak with an American accent. I think this helps dispel some of the girl's preconceived notions.

Overall, I believe how you conduct yourself is way more important than skin color. I've never felt unwanted in a bar because of my race. Trust me. If there is a fun outgoing Asian guy sitting next to a stiff creepy white guy, the girls will gravitate towards the Asian guy.

I do feel unwanted if I go into large bar like Atlantis or Forbidden City alone. I think these mega bars only want large groups of Asians.



Clearly, the Koreans have damaged their image in AC. The waitresses seem to dislike Koreans the most, and the Indians second.

On the other hand, I think the Japanese have a very good reputation on Fields.

[Amjeck]

I agree with you, the japanese are the big spender in Thailand. They have their own club and place, and outside the door maybe written in japanese "Chinese, korean, white guy & dog" cannot enter, and we can't understand it.

Unfortunatley, they have recently infiltrated heavily dominated farang spots like Nana, Cowboy, and Therme.

[Amjeck]

2. Korean Looks

They don't look handsome to me, ok maybe the young korean guy are cool like Rain.

Funny you mention this because in the last 2 years or so, I've met so many young asian girls (thais, burmese, laos, phils) that are infatuated with those korean pop stars. I think they may be the new hip thing for young asian girls.

[Ekspat]

My friend arrived in AC Saturday and went to her bar and she is 100% gone

Bro, nothing to worry, enough lovelies left.
:)

Cheers!

[Jack James]

I think there is a book or a set of rules that these girls follow. I have been to the fields 3 times now it is paradise, but I have given 7 different girls my email add and they call me honey, honeybunch, baby, sir, never call me by my name. The girls even change thier phone numbers after a few days when I get home they txt me with there new number. I think they have a network or system which they go by can any senior members add there 2 cents worth.

[Robbaf]

I spent three days in AC last weekend and during a bar hop I met this cutie. She has been in the bar less then a month and after talking to her I told my buddies that she would be gone, as in permanent barfine, in less then three months. As I continued talking to her she told me that her first barfine was coming back in a week and had asked her if she wanted to leave the bar. When it came time for a second LD I asked her if she wanted to barfine, as I don't support drink sluts, she looked me right in the eyes and said, "Sure, why not, it is my job sir!".:D

Robb

My friend arrived in AC Saturday and went to her bar and she is 100% gone:(

Robb

[Hesekiels]

... but I did it anyway just to see the difference between working pro and 'normal' filipina...

Mc Don:

Very interesting! And what exactly is the difference between a 'bargirl' and a 'normal' filipina? Just curiousity!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

[MauiDude]

As there is not a lot to do in AC when not mongering, when you go to the mall all the girls know why you are in AC. If you live in AC you may have a chance, but for short visit it is probably not worth the effort, as they are more likely to be looking for long term. Now, before I get flamed, I am not saying that it can't be done

Maybe its just easier to go barfine girls. Also for me living in angeles I have lots of opportunities to meet girls at the malls and everywhere. But I only want girls that don't have a good job and have lots of time for play.

So bar fine is much more to my life style.

And I do not want to mislead a girl that has a normal job. I tell them I am a butterfly and can add them to my other girls but will not be monongamus.

Yes I agree that most the girls that have normal jobs are looking for long term and actually a lot of bar girls are also. But the bar girls will settle for less or just for money to play.

The cool thing about angeles is that there is the mall and movies and also a short drive to Subic.

[Grisoman2000]

well said as i totally agree. wanted to highlight your post again so others don't miss this.

it's not just for this pi thread but also i posted along with phantomtiger on the indonesian and cambodia and other threads about proper tipping and overtipping as not knowing the proper tips and culture had steadly driven up prices for everyone. and since this directed affects me then its a peev for me.

shark

you are mistaken to believe japan is a tipping culture. tipping has absolutely no place in japan culture. not for a single thing. zilch! i have been living in japan for 12 years and it is really easy in that regard.

i have japanese friends always ask me before going abroad what they should do in terms of tips. so, the japanese punters are doing what they believe is "done". they give big tips to keep face.

[Mc Don]

I have on couple of occasions picked up at the mall. Once while buying jewelry for my wife (I said sister to the sales girl) the other time was at department store. If I have to guess the secret is you have to be VERY discreet if trying to pick up from a place where there are few girls working as the colleagues would not look favorable on the girl or spend and show a bit of cash. Overall I don't think is worth the effort but I did it anyway just to see the difference between working pro and 'normal' filipina.

Considering my time away from the missus is worth gold to me I would rather pay for my adventures and leaving it up the way I want to rather then shearing the moments.