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  1. #28656
    Quote Originally Posted by MadDin19  [View Original Post]
    It's happened to me that the girl turned off the light, didn't want to take a shower (even alone), I wasn't allowed to touch her pussy, etc. Should I discuss all this beforehand?
    Only if it is important to you.

    If longtime BBBJ with CIM and rimming is important to you, then you need to ask.

    Although BBBJ in Angeles seems to be standard. But in Thailand, you definitely have to ask.

    Of course some will renege in the room. It's a cost of doing business. But your chances are increased if you ask. I guess it kills the mood, but I'm not a romantic. My loss.

  2. #28655
    Quote Originally Posted by MadDin19  [View Original Post]
    Sorry but that's bullshit. If a working girl goes with me then I expect the usual standard. I agree that special things like anal or golden shower have to be clarified beforehand.
    I totally agree. What is AC coming to if I have to show a girl a list of required services before taking her back to my place. If we are talking bar girls, then I will get a pretty good idea of what is going to happen later on after a friendly audition / interview over a couple of drinks.

    It has been 3 years since I stepped foot in the PI, but what ever happened to spontaneous, passionate Filipina sex? As I fondly recall, the PI was always the capital of GFE sex in the known Universe. I had no need to negotiate services prior to 2019 because I always received decent sex at a minimum and 95% of the time a hell of a lot more including passionate DFK, BBBJ, DATY if I wanted, 69 if I wanted, and usually BBFS if I wanted. What's changed?

  3. #28654
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    Depending on what you want, you ALWAYS have to ask questions, in this country and others.

    Other questions that need to be asked is:

    - Do you BJ? Without condom?

    - Do you BBBJ more than 3 minutes?

    - Do you CIM? Or facial?

    - For those who are kinky: do you RIM? Lesbian show?

    - For threesomes, do I have to change condoms? Are you going to hide in the bathroom?
    That's all?

    - Do you shower?

    - Do we shower together?

    - Do you turn off the light?

    - May I touch your tits?

    - May I lick your nipples?

    - May I put a finger in your pussy?

    - Can I do doggy style?

    - Do you lick my balls?

    - Can I lick your ass?

    - Are you kissing me?

    - Do you do BJ?

    Sorry but that's bullshit. If a working girl goes with me then I expect the usual standard. I agree that special things like anal or golden shower have to be clarified beforehand.

    It's happened to me that the girl turned off the light, didn't want to take a shower (even alone), I wasn't allowed to touch her pussy, etc. Should I discuss all this beforehand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Promises made in the bar are quickly and routinely forgotten in the room.
    A 3 page tick list is a mood killer for both parties.
    Exactly!

  4. #28653
    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    This is spot on. There are multiple differing realities both between the groups of gents on this board (ie, between expats who stay for long periods and the tourists), and also within the various groups..
    AC has always had guys complaining about the price and quality of girls and also those overpaying but reporting having a great time with their definition of stunners.

    Both are likely correct but one went away very happy and the other is still whining.

    Life is what you make of it.

    Enjoy. G.

  5. #28652
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    Depending on what you want, you ALWAYS have to ask questions, in this country and others..
    No I don't 🙂.

    1. Anyone paying 5 k for a 1 k hoe has automatically labelled himself as an easy mark so the questions and, more importantly, answers are pointless. Promises made in the bar are quickly and routinely forgotten in the room.

    2. A 3 page tick list is a mood killer for both parties. Sure, I've confirmed a couple of must haves before but beyond that, I prefer to go with the flow. I've had a couple of disappointments but the pleasant surprises definitely outweigh the downers. That isn't limited to in-bar hookups

    As usual YMMV.

    Enjoy. G.

  6. #28651

    ABC Aqua Club

    Took a lovely upstairs to the roof of the ABC. I had to spend 500 pesos minimum and all women enter for no extra spend. I give it the thumbs up. Nice place. The Filipina dish we ordered was great (a chicken soup) and, as I had had a big breakfast was enough for the two of us. My lady friend had a coke, I had one beer and two cocktails. Brought our own water but they have cups of water dotted about etc. They provide towels and cute white gowns. I say cute white because all the Filipina ladies looked great in them. I put one on for about 5 seconds but felt more comfortable just with a towel. But if a breeze picks up they are there!! One thing: we got there early and left by about 2.45 pm. The sun was starting to dip to the west and probably makes for a spectacular sunset plus the 30 or so maximum people there might increase in a good way with louder music (DJ style I guess) etc. Our food and 4 drinks came yo about 1,230 pesos and I tipped 60 pesos. Fun for 3 hours, can be all day, a few couple like us, a larger group og guys and girls, a group of about 8 guys drinking beer and having fun, not a huge area to swim in but very well laid out and you can sit in the water, eat drink, swim etc. I did a couple of "laps" all around the side of the perimeter going under walkways, taking in the view. Good fun!! Only bummer was I took loads of picture of my lovely at her request; close ups, long shots, very artistic, some of my best work. I gave her my phone so she could send loads of them to her phone and she deleted all but two. So, I got to get tougher on these local girls.

  7. #28650
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]

    I think it's funny watching the girls go crazy when people make it rain. More fun than when the girls just lazily stand there pretending to dance. It's mostly Koreans that do it, but non-Koreans also do it.If you look at the wall to see who rings the bell, it's mostly non-Korean names.
    I'm happy that you appreciate the entertainment currently offered in AC bars!

    As for the names on the walls, my own name is in fact still on one of them, and it's definately a non-korean name. Good observation!

    You may also want to check out the dates / years of the bellrings.

  8. #28649
    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    There are multiple differing realities both between the groups of gents on this board (ie, between expats who stay for long periods and the tourists), and also within the various groups.
    Of course, in a broader sense you can create your own reality in PH. That's why it's more fun here. I just don't see the point in creating in on Fields, paying 5 K for 1 K pussy plus LDs. If some guys percieve Fields as user friendly and / or good value, more power to them. Of course it still plays a role attracting product to the total AC pussy market. So keep on doing those 5 K BFs, please.

  9. #28648
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    But even back then the questions became such an ass ache.

    You cherry?

    You on menstruation?

    You bar fine to have sex?

    Is your mother or baby sick so that you have to leave early?
    Depending on what you want, you ALWAYS have to ask questions, in this country and others.

    Other questions that need to be asked is:

    - Do you BJ? Without condom?

    - Do you BBBJ more than 3 minutes?

    - Do you CIM? Or facial?

    - For those who are kinky: do you RIM? Lesbian show?

    - For threesomes, do I have to change condoms? Are you going to hide in the bathroom?

    Quote Originally Posted by PuteNut  [View Original Post]
    Not much fun in watching Koreans do money rain LOL.
    I think it's funny watching the girls go crazy when people make it rain. More fun than when the girls just lazily stand there pretending to dance. It's mostly Koreans that do it, but non-Koreans also do it.

    If you look at the wall to see who rings the bell, it's mostly non-Korean names. I think ringing the bell is lame. I think there's more "value" in making it rain rather than ringing the bell. I would want to make it rain, I think it would be fun, but I would rather keep my US $100 for other activities.

  10. #28647
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    I have paid attention. Other peoples reality's doesn't have to be my reality. My reality doesn't have to be other's reality.

    I just have a HARD time believing it while the old timers are telling me there is no more young tight pussy around while I am having my small dick in some sweet young tight thing.
    This is spot on. There are multiple differing realities both between the groups of gents on this board (ie, between expats who stay for long periods and the tourists), and also within the various groups. Here is one difference that we have touched on before.

    The same girl will perform the same way (number of hours spent with a gent, number of pops, quality of GFE, etc):

    1) For wildly different amounts of money with different groups of guys. Her price for a 2-week warrior might be 2500 for a ST, while she has 2 different weekly regular sessions with wheezer / geezer expats for 1000 each. The reason she does this is not important. There are fellas out there the do not believe this (they have told me so). "It doesn't make sense Westy. Why would she do the same work for a lower price with different customers!" Really it doesn't make any difference the reason 'WHY'. The gent is thinking in academic terms (logic), which, when applied to women, doesn't always hold.

    2) For wildly different amounts of money with the same guy in any group. She was with a 2-week warrior yesterday for 2500. She has an emergency today (mother's electric was disconnected) and contacts the warrior, who says he is busy today. She contacts the wheezer, who is also busy. Fraught, she offers the warrior to take 1500 today, and he accepts. To you and me, that's only 1000, which is not large. But its not small to her, that's a 40% reduction. Its also a precedent-mistake on her part: She will know that to the warrior she is now worth less in the future.

    3) The simple act of getting to know her over longer periods of time also shows her more acceptable prize (in her mind), as her rate of emergencies lowers her price.

    There seems to be a different reality for many of us, and for each girl. DG's reality is that he is happy with what he has found and his price structure. You are not happy with yours? Is that the fault of Walking Street? Koreans? Fat Filipinas? Covid? Or you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    Then again there are still some flat earthers.
    Speaking of, and for fun on the flat earth topic, try this. An airline pilot offers to fly anyone from Buenos Aires (Argentina), in the southern part of South America, across Antarctica, to Perth (Australia). It would be roughly a 16-hour flight. Flat earthers maps shows BA and Perth on far ends of the flat map, a flight that would last 30+ hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaRxOesKIyg

  11. #28646
    Quote Originally Posted by PuteNut  [View Original Post]
    And if you pay attention now, we're merely saying the "Walking Street" part has gone downhill (Perimiter is more or less in total shambles). PH is still overflowing with excellent, easily available pussy. Even now with BPO industry established even in smaller cities (I have BPO regulars who take time off for some hands on CS).

    The name Walking Street is pretty new by the way. Used to be just Fields. How original to rename this poor excuse of a RLD after the shagging capital Patts.
    I have paid attention. Other peoples reality's doesn't have to be my reality. My reality doesn't have to be other's reality.

    I just have a HARD time believing it while the old timers are telling me there is no more young tight pussy around while I am having my small dick in some sweet young tight thing.

    Then again there are still some flat earthers.

  12. #28645
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    Glad I paid attention.
    And if you pay attention now, we're merely saying the "Walking Street" part has gone downhill (Perimiter is more or less in total shambles). PH is still overflowing with excellent, easily available pussy. Even now with BPO industry established even in smaller cities (I have BPO regulars who take time off for some hands on CS).

    The name Walking Street is pretty new by the way. Used to be just Fields. How original to rename this poor excuse of a RLD after the shagging capital Patts.

  13. #28644
    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    While I often disagree with NS, parts of his viewpoint are correct.

    The average gent on this board is not young, white, and monied (combined). He is only one (or two) of those three things.

    NS is not referring to young + good looking gents. He is referring to wheezer / geezers such as myself.

    Agree with the first part of this sentence, it takes time to get regular girls in bed. Longer for an older fella. Which is making NS' point, that the gents on this board don't have that kind of time. They are in town for 1-2 weeks, they are looking for point-and-shoot girls. Girls willing to sex with a 60 or 70 year old gent the moment she meets him. Regular girls you described, 18-25 years old from dating sites, are not so inclined. Girls who *are* inclined will want money.
    Westy, while we often have slight differences of opinion, you have always been the voice of reason and dignified in your responses, shame we don't have more westy, s on this board.

    But in all honesty nothing would make me more happy than to report that all Angeles visitors are getting laid by super models at bargain prices and if this should start to happen then ill be the 1st to report of such with great delight, I too am stuck in Angeles, I too am a monger that wants high quality girls that are mostly all willing to barfine at lower prices but in being fair to the board and other would be visitors I feel I have to report honestly what I see and experience as do other members who are saying the same as myself.

    Looking forward to many more future debates with your good self.

  14. #28643
    While I often disagree with NS, parts of his viewpoint are correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by JordCo  [View Original Post]
    Young, white, money still easily gets 7's and some 8's anywhere in Philippines including Angeles City.
    The average gent on this board is not young, white, and monied (combined). He is only one (or two) of those three things.

    Quote Originally Posted by JordCo  [View Original Post]
    Come on you have to be exaggerating / trolling here haha! A young good looking Westerner will not take months to score decent pussy. I've been here 1 month. 32, good shape, average looking. And non pros aged 18-25 on dating sites rated 6 - 7.5 are in abundance.
    NS is not referring to young + good looking gents. He is referring to wheezer / geezers such as myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by JordCo  [View Original Post]
    It takes 1-2 weeks max to get them in bed a lot of the time less. No money exchanged. I only pay expenses.
    Agree with the first part of this sentence, it takes time to get regular girls in bed. Longer for an older fella. Which is making NS' point, that the gents on this board don't have that kind of time. They are in town for 1-2 weeks, they are looking for point-and-shoot girls. Girls willing to sex with a 60 or 70 year old gent the moment she meets him. Regular girls you described, 18-25 years old from dating sites, are not so inclined. Girls who *are* inclined will want money.

  15. #28642
    Quote Originally Posted by JordCo  [View Original Post]
    Come on you have to be exaggerating / trolling here haha! A young good looking Westerner will not take months to score decent pussy. I've been here 1 month. 32, good shape, average looking. And non pros aged 18-25 on dating sites rated 6 - 7.5 are in abundance. It takes 1-2 weeks max to get them in bed a lot of the time less. No money exchanged. I only pay expenses. The Asian preference is strongly in the pro market because they don't bargain and are generally an easier nights work, also with some pressure from Korean owners etc. The non pro market your competition is local Filipinos. If you're young here and you can't pull for months there is something seriously wrong with you. Majority of Koreans / Japanese can't even communicate without translators, that's why they are heavily P4 P and interesting in short time. So in public you're not competing with many 'rich young Koreans' very often. Actually I see a lot of Koreans but they're usually tourists after the same short time previously mentioned.

    Young, white, money still easily gets 7's and some 8's anywhere in Philippines including Angeles City.

    I've looked back on some of your posts and while this is my first post all I can assume is you're either trolling or trying to put people off coming here. If it's genuinely your experience then my apologies but it won't be as you say for everyone. I accept what you say about the bars but they are crap anyway. But decent average Westerners will still find something in them.
    As many have said, quality girls is in the eye of the beholder, ones 7,8,9's might be someone else's would not fuck for free.

    I own an Angeles company that employs over 100 pinays, all that are married are married to pinoys, all that are dating are dating pinoys, not one single girl is married or dating a foreigner, my own live in girlfriend (non bargirl) took 6 months to get a date with and many months of courting to get in her panties.

    Those girls on dating sites are normally ex prostitutes who all of a sudden became good girls so yes those type of girls are easy and quick to fuck.

    Normal educated pinays are not on dating sites looking to fuck foreigners, they are married or dating pinoys, sorry to burst your bubble.

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