Angeles City

[Engine Driver]

So getting a chick with only those 3 qualifications is what it takes for a guy to be labeled having high standards?

The only qualifications Mr E's chicks need are to have 3 holes.

[SaltyPete]

So getting a chick with only those 3 qualifications is what it takes for a guy to be labeled having high standards?

Show me where I said that did.

[Mr Enternational]

I have very high standards. I go for slim, petite college-age girls only.

So getting a chick with only those 3 qualifications is what it takes for a guy to be labeled having high standards?

[Rick Rock]

If you dislike PI so much why do you go there? Sheesh.

I don't anymore. Others read this site and may wonder what experienced people have to say. I am just being honest.

[SaltyPete]

Maybe you have low standards. Seems to be common in the Philippines, at least from non-Asian guys.

Nope. I have very high standards; most of the girls in the photo section here I wouldn't fuck with a 10' dick. I go for slim, petite college-age girls only.

I avoid the ones in one-sies as they are probably covering up what you described. You pretty much know what you got with a girl in a bikini. I can't say I've experienced the European model lately; I assume you are talking about places in Frankfurt where it is "wham-bam thank you ma'am", a la Amsterdam. Not my style; it's better in the Philippines. Hope you find peace.

[D Cups]

EDSA and Burgos has the exact same level of girls, but at 4 times the price. You'll drop $200 to short time a single mom with missing teeth, flappy tits and a tattoo that says RAMONE across her stretch marked flabby scared and pock marked ass. Oh, hotels cost more too.

Manila is bigger but has no more activities unless you count dogging traffic and pick pocket shabu addicts or trying to get a taxi to actually take you somewhere and use a meter.

Read what SEAtraveller just wrote. Then read it again. Then drink some cold water and sit down for a few minutes.

Then read it again.

If you dislike PI so much why do you go there? Sheesh.

[Blanquiceleste]

Maybe you have low standards. Seems to be common in the Philippines, at least from non-Asian guys.

What's the barfine at Kojax and Plan be? Then add to that what the women want to be paid (barfines don't include price of sex on Burgos).

Blaqui already did the math.

Add a couple of drinks so you can bar hop and actually find a woman without baby belly, saggy tits, fat, stretch marks, rotten teeth and / or tattoos. You will arrive at around 200 USD for ST. Or, in other words, four times what you would pay in Western Europe for same service.

RR while the math is right. To have a great night out at Burgos can cost north of $200, I have to disagree with your assessment of quality. Clearly, you have not been to the bars SP is talking about. The top tier girls at PlanB and XOXO / Kojax (same girls work both bars) are top tier girls in any contest. And there are 5-8 of them in each bar on most night, and possibly 7-10 on weekends.

I suggest you actually go into these bars, order a drink, overpriced as it may be and observe the talent before making a sweeping statement about the girls in Manila. That is a polite way of saying you know what!

[Zeke2121]

You claim you were in club Asia in the last few days and report on what you saw, please correct me if I am wrong but club Asia closed down multiple months ago so how were you recently there? I'm confused.

Yes I meant club X and I had no idea Club Asia closed. There was girls outside but it was for them Dragon club on top of Club Asia. Wonder why they closed it. I'm here now. Also a few clubs have new names. Weird.

[Rick Rock]

I'm not sure when you visited EDSA last, but I've never bar fined a girl like you describe. I haven't even seen them there. The lower class bars in Burgos may have a few, I don't know as I only go to the top tier bars (Kojax / XoXo / Plan be, etc).

ST in EDSA is USD 60 to bar, USD 60 to girl, doen't equate to 200.

Maybe you have low standards. Seems to be common in the Philippines, at least from non-Asian guys.

What's the barfine at Kojax and Plan be? Then add to that what the women want to be paid (barfines don't include price of sex on Burgos).

Blaqui already did the math.

- Just the barfine is 2900 to 3500 depending on whether you know the ropes and can negotiate well.

- Nothing less than 4000 for the girl. Some may demand 5000 too.

Add a couple of drinks so you can bar hop and actually find a woman without baby belly, saggy tits, fat, stretch marks, rotten teeth and / or tattoos. You will arrive at around 200 USD for ST. Or, in other words, four times what you would pay in Western Europe for same service.

[NapaSlapper]

There is no set price for Angeles freelancers they range from free to many thousands of pesos so getting the price sorted is what every seasoned Phills monger does first, why, because they know of how easily things can go downhill when arguing about money with pinays.

Should one anger a pinay to the point of her calling the police, then it won't turn out well for the punter, prostitution in the phills carries a mandatory 20 year sentence for the punter, the girls and police know this so can very easily set up for a big pay day between the girl and the police.

Have to fully agree with you that the quality of girls in most bars are very very low, especially the expat bars of perimeter road.

Have noticed recently (last 20 days) not only a decrease in Korean punters but a decrease in punters across the board, even the girls seem to be much less in numbers whether bar girls or freelancers, this virus thing seems to have many spooked.

[Dg8787]

I'm not sure when you visited EDSA last, but I've never bar fined a girl like you describe. I haven't even seen them there. The lower class bars in Burgos may have a few, I don't know as I only go to the top tier bars (Kojax / XoXo / Plan be, etc).

ST in EDSA is USD 60 to bar, USD 60 to girl, doen't equate to 200. I'm ST only; I don't sleep well with a stranger next to me.

And I thought I was a pessimist.

As usual it is all in the attitude.

[VictorHugo99]

Hi SB,

Thanks for the awesome report.

Gives me motivation to try going.

Vic.

Hello Guys,

I just got back from 11 nights in Angeles (been there before several times) and wanted to post some general observations:

1) Just when I thought the quality of girls in the bars could not deteriorate more, it did. OMG. Bars like Dollhouse, Atlantis, that used to always have a handful of 7's or even one 8 quality girl, now have nothing but 4's, 5, or 6's at best. I found one decent gal in Viking and Lollipop, but other than that I had to resort to mongering from Hiso and street.) The Perimeter bar areas (up by Ice Bar, Det 5, Candy, etc) are a complete waste of time in my opinion, and quality of the girls is shit. I guess the older expats and mongers who are less choosy, no offense, keep these places afloat but I cannot understand how some of these places stay in business. Its really heartbreaking the bars are so bad as it leaves me less options.

2) As others have noted, girls that my friends and I call "Korean Hunters" were more open to saying Hello, not giving you dirty looks or ignoring you, so attitudes have changed. Just for shits and giggles, my friend and I (both of us from USA) walked into Hammer nightclub (ground zero for Korean hunters) and started eyeing up the girls and chatting them. For the first time, several wanted to go with us and talk with us. That is not to say that we would stay there anymore, as this place has left a bad taste in my mouth.

3) Mondays through Thursdays are hit and miss for crowds and Hiso and streets can be really dead. This became a challenge, so on a long trip you need some regulars as backups for these slow nights..

[Threadbare]

I had a few days in AC early February. I had contacted Wicked Roger before I went and he had put me in touch with a Cebuana called Lyn, living in AC, who he highly recommended. I contacted her and arranged to meet in the afternoon after I arrived. She works evenings so preferred afternoon fun. I was staying in the Envy hotel, and she arrived right on time, with great communication too. She's a real good looker, about 22 and gorgeous figure too. We took our time and had a great session, she did everything I wanted and left me a very happy man. She is very confident, and I would think she could be a bit dom if that's what turns you on, not for me though. We had a couple of hours together, nice relaxing time and after the deed we had time to chat and chill out. A really nice session which I was happy to repeat later in the week. She is a really naughty girl. Please pm WR if you would like to contact her.

I had some other encounters while I was there, wechat works well for me, also Pinalove and DIA, and I had arranged some meets before I arrived. I also contacted a couple of previous girlfriends before I arrived, so I kept myself quite busy. I like to work out a plan before I arrive, but try to keep it flexible too. If you have a plan to meet someone and a better offer comes along, just don't reply to phone messages and then later you can claim you were asleep. Didn't need to resort to HS, though I had planned to if I was still alone after midnight. I did try one of the Raymond Street BJ Bars a couple of evenings just for a drink and a chat. These were closed down a couple of years ago, but up and running again now. I even found a pretty young street FL one night, visiting from Manila. Lots of choice if you look around.

I ate often in Envy bar, really nice breakfast menu in there, and I was happy with the main menu choices too. Treated myself to a steak in the Queens Hotel RBI steakhouse one evening, possibly the best in AC, though I haven't tried them all!

I visit a couple of times a year, and AC changes every time, but I still love visiting there for a few days. I can sleep through the morning, and take some afternoon delight in my room, so never bored really!

[StudBucket]

Hello Guys,

I just got back from 11 nights in Angeles (been there before several times) and wanted to post some general observations:

1) Just when I thought the quality of girls in the bars could not deteriorate more, it did. OMG. Bars like Dollhouse, Atlantis, that used to always have a handful of 7's or even one 8 quality girl, now have nothing but 4's, 5, or 6's at best. I found one decent gal in Viking and Lollipop, but other than that I had to resort to mongering from Hiso and street.) The Perimeter bar areas (up by Ice Bar, Det 5, Candy, etc) are a complete waste of time in my opinion, and quality of the girls is shit. I guess the older expats and mongers who are less choosy, no offense, keep these places afloat but I cannot understand how some of these places stay in business. Its really heartbreaking the bars are so bad as it leaves me less options.

2) As others have noted, girls that my friends and I call "Korean Hunters" were more open to saying Hello, not giving you dirty looks or ignoring you, so attitudes have changed. Just for shits and giggles, my friend and I (both of us from USA) walked into Hammer nightclub (ground zero for Korean hunters) and started eyeing up the girls and chatting them. For the first time, several wanted to go with us and talk with us. That is not to say that we would stay there anymore, as this place has left a bad taste in my mouth.

3) Mondays through Thursdays are hit and miss for crowds and Hiso and streets can be really dead. This became a challenge, so on a long trip you need some regulars as backups for these slow nights.

4) There are still some nice honeys to be found in Hiso if you are patient and weed them out. The ratio of girls to guys is lopsided in our favor so girls will go with just about anyone so long as you are nice, clean smelling, halfway presentably dressed. Everyone should really support this place to ensure there are enough regulars going in order to prevent more gals permanently going to Hammer. Price was not really a factor, and most gals will not bring it up unless you discuss. Just build some chemistry first, buy them a drink, show some interest in them as a person, laugh, and then when you are ready just say lets go back to my place. If you take them short time just hand them 1500 when they are about to leave (standard median rate), and long time should be 2-2500 pesos depending upon performance, attitude.

5) I stayed at Central Park Tower Resort. The standard room is the best value deal in town considering quality of room, amenities (great rooftop and pool with full time doormen), and location is top notch as its near Walking Street.

6) Good food can be found at Grand Central (try NY Pizza, thin crust and good, try Mongolian beef, Club Sandwich are all good dishes). Yi San has good Korean food, recommend the Ramen Dumpling soup, Fried Chicken pieces with sweet sauce, Bibimbap Bowl, are all good dishes.
Tequila Reef has excellent Mexican food. I was not impressed with the dinner at Envy restaurant, but they have a great 3 egg omelette for breakfast, for 195 pesos which somes with hash browns, salad, and toast. Best breakfast dish in town. Of course, there are other decent food options
in town but these are my most regular places.

7) Work Tinder, Facebook and Messenger, and the streets. On the streets, just say hi and ask for their number. Keep it simple.


I still feel this is one of the best towns to monger in if you have some time. Its not good for a quick crash in and out 3 night or weekend deal for newbies. I recommend at least 1 week. If you work Hiso, Tinder, Facebook you will get good results.

[SaltyPete]

EDSA and Burgos has the exact same level of girls, but at 4 times the price. You'll drop $200 to short time a single mom with missing teeth, flappy tits and a tattoo that says RAMONE across her stretch marked flabby scared and pock marked ass. Oh, hotels cost more too.

Manila is bigger but has no more activities unless you count dogging traffic and pick pocket shabu addicts or trying to get a taxi to actually take you somewhere and use a meter.

Read what SEAtraveller just wrote. Then read it again. Then drink some cold water and sit down for a few minutes.

Then read it again.

I'm not sure when you visited EDSA last, but I've never bar fined a girl like you describe. I haven't even seen them there. The lower class bars in Burgos may have a few, I don't know as I only go to the top tier bars (Kojax / XoXo / Plan be, etc).

ST in EDSA is USD 60 to bar, USD 60 to girl, doen't equate to 200. I'm ST only; I don't sleep well with a stranger next to me.

And I thought I was a pessimist.