Angeles City

[Member #4566]

You mean in US schools don't you? . . . in my Canadian experience nothing like the bullshit that passes for sex ed in the US occurred.

I worked in the English department of a couple of Korean universities. The foreign faculty was a mixture of Americans and Canadians and there was always tension between the two groups. The Americans blamed the tension on the Canadians and they in turn blamed it back on the Americans. Your comment illuminates the difficulty that sometimes occurs when these two nationalities talk about each other.

[Soapy Smith]

You mean in US schools don't you?

I graduated high school in Canada in the early 70's and sex education consisted of definitive and factual explanations of how sex worked, how contraception worked and methods of transmission of STI's worked. (This was pre AIDS days when just about everything was curable with one course of penicillin or other antibiotic.).

I was in a small city (pop 13,000) in the Canadian prairies, think small city in the Midwest, generally conservative in outlook (by Canadian standards) but not all hung up on the Puritan ethics of sex being bad. Perhaps it was because it was a farming community where people lived a little closer to nature and the realities of life but at least in my Canadian experience nothing like the bullshit that passes for sex ed in the US occurred.

I was trying to defuse the overwrought tone of discussion about STIs. These two clips were from a 2004 teen romantic comedy movie named **Mean Girls*.

In my own experience in the 60's in the states there was little of factual value offered in sex education classes. I grew up in a small rural community where a gym teacher would have been responsible to teach that stuff. Boys and girls were sex-segregated for such instruction, and the gym teachers may not have been well enough informed to offer much of factual significance. In addition to our school teachers, there were probably fewer than a dozen adults in the community with college educations, and there was a distinctive Puritanical hangup regarding sex among the adults. You should feel comparatively fortunate to have gotten the sex education you describe.

I was self-taught in such matters, from a paperback book entitled **Love Without Fear** by Eustace Chesser. My older sister brought it home from college and left it in her bedroom after her Freshman year. She was very upset to find the binding worn out when she returned a semester or two later. I recall that the book was largely non-judgmental about oral sex (which I read about with great interest--many times), but a little judgmental about saving sex for marriage. By comparison to opinions that some folks in this forum offer about the dangers of cunnilingus, it seems amazing that Dr. Chesser could have been so misinformed.

[OlderMan4U]

Asiana is a great airline.

If you're thinking of mongering, skip Japan.

No, I wouldn't monger in Japan. I've read enough things about mongering in Japan that I have no desire to do so there. I do enjoy visiting for other things besides mongering especially the amusement parks like Disneyland, I'm a big fan of extracurricular activities besides women.

I've never flown Asiana so good to know.

Sounds like your playing it safe by going someplace you already know, and I agree-Japan ain't the right place. Subic is just down the road, and worth a day trip at least. Visit a bar that night and take your BF with you to Tiger park (or whatever the name is) the next day. Its a park that showcases animal shows with a drive through enclosure where the tiger jumps on the truck your in. Its on SBMA. The perfect compliment to the Phils is a trip to Thailand, or Hong Kong.

I would just do the nine days in Angeles, with side trips to Manila and Subic for a change of venue, because I hate to waste a travel day going to another country. That's an entire day of drinking and shagging wasted! God knows flying is a pain in the ass anymore.

Thank you, now that I think of it, like you suggest it's probably better to just stay in A. See. The whole time and relax instead of the hassle of flying other places and whatnot. If I had a longer time off I would visit other countries but only nine days is cutting it too close.

The reason why I was thinking of Japan was not for mongering but the other attractions like Disneyland. But I think back to past years where I've spent weeks in Thailand and I seemed to be fine with not much to do but sleep during the day and monger at night.

I'll look for other things to do like you suggest like Subic. My focus would be on finding decent companionship of course.

[Member #4566]

Shazzam:

It is worth reading this story to give you perspective on your situation; about how your girl friend will never be satisfied with what you do for her but rather will always be trying to expand the scope of your generosity.

I came to understand that there is an immense difference between vacationing and living in a place. I love vacationing in the PI. My pleasure begins with anticipating my next trip. I will not live there.

There is an old saying that a monger does not pay for a girl to stay with him but rather for her to leave. And so, by analogy, a vacationer in the PI has the luxury of departing the PI at the end of his stay and leaving all of that rat race behind him.

[Chocha Monger]

Guys, to those living in AC with a local, what's it really like? Apart from the obvious sex on tap. Is their enough to do and keep yourself sane? I've been a few times and wondered what it would be like full time. I watch videos of a couple of western guys posting on youtube who live there and some find it boring and others have opened up little businesses with their wife.

My local GF is doing my head in. Asking the same questions every day. "when are you coming back". "I'm bored, send me money so I can go shopping", "I need to eat", "Do you still love me", "why you not talk to me when I call".

Now I live in Australia and visit 3 times a year, and she used to live down here for 5 years married to an abusive Aussie husband but she divorced and went home..

After two years of fun, the answer is obvious. No one spends two years with the same woman in the Philippines unless it is true love. Time to make your commitment official and move her back down under to The Land O' Plenty with the baby to keep her company and a credit card to go shopping with, as she is likely to get bored when you are busy at work all day.

Alternatively, you can buy a house in Angeles City, in her name since as a foreigner you cannot own property with land attached. Sell all the things you have in Oz, move to the Philippines and live happily ever after running a little sari-sari store or rum shop. It beats sitting in Oz, wiring money, getting no Aussie puss, and dreaming of making your visit to Angeles City to drop your load. You will save money on three annual round trip tickets and hotels; with cheap booze and plentiful hookers in Angeles City, you will forget Oz in no time.

The final option is to continue with the status quo. Send her money to take of the baby and go shopping when she feels bored or craves Chicken Joy w / spaghettis. Pinays feel bored when they are horny and in need of a hard fucking. If you are unwilling to move here and provide it or move her back down under where she is accessible, you have to be much more open-minded and let her fuck other mongers and Pinoy boyfriends when she feels bored and horny. Many mongers have realistic and practical arrangements like this, as no Pinay is going to sit around wasting away her few good years without making babies and / or marriage with house and lot in the hopes a monger will return to service her three times a year. Feel free to PM me if this option interests you, as I am willing and able to help with your situation.

[WestCoast1]

It's like their is no logic to their thinking.

Hahaha Shazzam for ISG (Phils thread) President!

but so needy and princess like I can't go on, LOL.

Sounds like half the girls I've dated. From a professional dropper: Drop her right now. End that madness and move on.

[Red Kilt]

Of course, replies are welcomed but let's please keep it friendly and constructive and not smart ass or take a swing for my comments and opinions. I'm well aware not to send lots of cash etc and that extended family goes with the girls in the country, etc. I was just after some sane opinions.

After setting out the GF's behavior and attitude in such a negative way, I cannot believe that you are actually asking for an opinion about what to do.

It's a no-brainer. Cut off all relationships. I suspect that you are someone who cannot make hard decisions and wants others to tell you what to do.

As someone who has written extensively about my life living in the Philippines for the past 21 years, my vote is very clear.

[Mr Enternational]

She's beautiful in lots of ways, but so needy and princess like I can't go on, LOL.

So dump her. Relationships are just like any other things. There are pluses and minuses. If the minuses outweigh the pluses or there are certain minuses that you absolutely can not put up with, then get out. LIke at work when the same mfs are always complaining about the same stuff. I don't understand why they would continue to work there under those (what they see as) unfavorable conditions. Then they get mad if someone tells them, well why do you continue to work here. No way that I would stay in any type of relationship where I felt used, abused, not appreciated, underpaid, etc when I could just walk away and find another same as I found that one.

[Kabul Guy]

Asiana is a great airline.

If you're thinking of mongering, skip Japan.

Yes I second that, a quick read of the Japan forums shows a marked dislike of foreigners there.

[Naked Gunz]

Gents, I'm still trying to figure out travel plans,I'm thinking 9 days only in Angeles would get boring quick. I'm not interested in going to other parts of the P. I. Though.

Sounds like your playing it safe by going someplace you already know, and I agree-Japan ain't the right place. Subic is just down the road, and worth a day trip at least. Visit a bar that night and take your BF with you to Tiger park (or whatever the name is) the next day. Its a park that showcases animal shows with a drive through enclosure where the tiger jumps on the truck your in. Its on SBMA. The perfect compliment to the Phils is a trip to Thailand, or Hong Kong.

I would just do the nine days in Angeles, with side trips to Manila and Subic for a change of venue, because I hate to waste a travel day going to another country. That's an entire day of drinking and shagging wasted! God knows flying is a pain in the ass anymore.

[Nice Guy 99]

Gents,

I'm still trying to figure out travel plans, but if you had 9 days on the ground vacation days, would you spend all of that in Angeles City, or break it up?

I'm thinking 9 days only in Angeles would get boring quick. I'm not interested in going to other parts of the P. I. Though.

I was thinking of flying to Japan also, so maybe spend 4 days in AC and 5 days in Tokyo. I've been to Tokyo several times and done all the famous sites, so I'm really only interested in doing a few specific things like visit Disneyland and other such thing.

Round trip flights from the USA To only Clark International would cost a little over 800, while adding on the Tokyo leg would add about 200 extra dollars (Asiana, never flew with them).

Asiana is a great airline.

If you're thinking of mongering, skip Japan.

[Shazzam]

Guys, to those living in AC with a local, what's it really like? Apart from the obvious sex on tap. Is their enough to do and keep yourself sane? I've been a few times and wondered what it would be like full time. I watch videos of a couple of western guys posting on youtube who live there and some find it boring and others have opened up little businesses with their wife.

My local GF is doing my head in. Asking the same questions every day. "when are you coming back". "I'm bored, send me money so I can go shopping", "I need to eat", "Do you still love me", "why you not talk to me when I call".

Now I live in Australia and visit 3 times a year, and she used to live down here for 5 years married to an abusive Aussie husband but she divorced and went home. She doesn't work in the bars, in fact she doesn't do anything except stay at home looking after her dog, cat, extended family and now she's taking care of a sick cousin's 4 month old baby expecting me to pay for the babies stuff! It's not even mine or hers! She never asked, can barely look after herself and then decides to take care of the baby forever. It's a lovely thing to do but she can't afford it. It's like their is no logic to their thinking. I was planning to visit next month and go to Palawan or Subic with her, but now she said I have to book two hotel rooms, one for us and the other for her niece to look after the baby at night time.

The mindless questions and boredom would get to me I reckon if I lived there. Plus paying for everything including extended family. I know most are poor and uneducated by mine lived and worked here so I thought she could grasp the basic fact that working pays for living. Apparently not. I'm convinced they think western men are walking banks with unlimited money. Think again sister, it's been a fun 2 years but I can't see a future up there giving up most things I take for granted here. And no, I'm not thinking of moving her back here as she says she was lonely here last time.

Of course, replies are welcomed but let's please keep it friendly and constructive and not smart ass or take a swing for my comments and opinions. I'm well aware not to send lots of cash etc and that extended family goes with the girls in the country, etc. I was just after some sane opinions. She's beautiful in lots of ways, but so needy and princess like I can't go on, LOL.

[OlderMan4U]

Gents,

I'm still trying to figure out travel plans, but if you had 9 days on the ground vacation days, would you spend all of that in Angeles City, or break it up?

I'm thinking 9 days only in Angeles would get boring quick. I'm not interested in going to other parts of the P. I. Though.

I was thinking of flying to Japan also, so maybe spend 4 days in AC and 5 days in Tokyo. I've been to Tokyo several times and done all the famous sites, so I'm really only interested in doing a few specific things like visit Disneyland and other such thing.

Round trip flights from the USA To only Clark International would cost a little over 800, while adding on the Tokyo leg would add about 200 extra dollars (Asiana, never flew with them).

[Kabul Guy]

.... Given the state of sex education in public schools for many of us during our formative years, it's no wonder that some of us get confused:

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You mean in US schools don't you?

I graduated high school in Canada in the early 70's and sex education consisted of definitive and factual explanations of how sex worked, how contraception worked and methods of transmission of STI's worked. (This was pre AIDS days when just about everything was curable with one course of penicillin or other antibiotic.).

I was in a small city (pop 13,000) in the Canadian prairies, think small city in the Midwest, generally conservative in outlook (by Canadian standards) but not all hung up on the Puritan ethics of sex being bad. Perhaps it was because it was a farming community where people lived a little closer to nature and the realities of life but at least in my Canadian experience nothing like the bullshit that passes for sex ed in the US occurred.

[Dg8787]

Gentlemen. You have asked and they have responded. In the wake of mongers boosting the economy of AC and keeping it afloat all of these years, it appears they are building a brand new 8-story mongering complex between ABC Hotel and SM Clark.

I seriously doubt that complex is being built for or paid for by mongers. Isn't it in the Clark side of the fence? If anything bars will eventually get pushed out by urban renewal by higher land value and rents. CC's will never support the higher rents.

Enjoy it while you can.

Isn’t that the new car dealership going up?