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  1. #22771
    Quote Originally Posted by WickedRoger  [View Original Post]
    there is a such a wealth of information on this thread.
    What are you kidding? Get real. You ought to take your own advice and read the fuckin' forum yourself for you will find that most of it consists of running commentary among member who feed off each other. The info that is in the forum is not packaged well and specific details are difficult to find. Questioners with specific interests are chided by "contributors" with over 5,000 posts (5 fuckin' thousand!) for not reading through all the irrelevant folderol. They are told to make FR's before they qualify to have questions answered. What a bunch of small minded peckerheads. If you don't want to answer the fuckin' question then don't but don't discourage the questions in the first place. RTFF and you will see just how those attitudes narrow the number of ISG "contributors" on the Philippine forum to just a handful of the same old same old. Leave people the fuck alone.

  2. #22770
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I wish you good luck in pulling 'good girls' from the malls if you are non-Asian. As we all know there is a stigma attached to walking with certain foreigners.
    That's a good point. SM Clark Mall in AC is not the same hunting ground as malls in Cebu or Manila.

    The advantage of the new dating apps is that a "good girl" can operate via a dating scenario without being seen in her usual places.

    PL.

  3. #22769
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    How about a field report? You have many questions.
    He asks lots but rarely if any contributes DG. Look back at FR history and he was in Thailand but limited sharing also. Same here I suspect. AC is all you want it to be if you just wander out into the street. It is not hard to get what you want but Dante who is 29 and takes V seems to think it is rocket science.

    Dante. It is not, AC is a full of everything but is not everyone's flavour so RTFF as most if not all of your questions are answered by others as there is a such a wealth of information on this thread.

  4. #22768
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    I've heard of Koreans paying bars to have a live in girlfriend for days / a week at a time.

    Anyone here ever done daily rates? Or taken them on vacation with you? What rates are they asking, what rates are you guys giving?

    Threesomes. When I had my threesome in AC (my first report here), the girls always wiped me off with wet paper towels or had me shower / wash every time I switched pussies. Is this a common thing anyone else here is getting? This was all bareback BTW. I understand it, but it kind of takes away from the experience.
    How about a field report? You have many questions.

  5. #22767
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    I've heard of Koreans paying bars to have a live in girlfriend for days / a week at a time.

    Anyone here ever done daily rates? Or taken them on vacation with you? What rates are they asking, what rates are you guys giving?

    Threesomes. When I had my threesome in AC (my first report here), the girls always wiped me off with wet paper towels or had me shower / wash every time I switched pussies. Is this a common thing anyone else here is getting? This was all bareback BTW. I understand it, but it kind of takes away from the experience.
    Dante,

    Point by point:

    "Rolling" barfines are very common. I and others have done it many times. Expect to pay the same daily rates for each night you have the girl. If you have clicked with the girl, it can be a good experience for all parties. You will get a known performer. The girl is likely to say "thanks" for the on going income. In most bars if you return with her for drinks, because you have all ready bar fined her, her drinks will be standards not LDs.

    Vacationing with a BG receives both positive and negative reviews. Search my posts for "Holidaying with a Hooker" for my generally negative experience. Basically great sex for 2 weeks but everything else was a complete mind fuck. I wouldn't repeat but many have had positive experiences and would disagree with me.

    LLT rates are best if you nominate what you are willing to pay rather than ask her or the bar. Obviously, if you ask her, she will try to work out a scheme to cut out the bar. This can portentially save you money. However, keep in mind that many of the better bars will hold the girl accountable for bar fines especially if she "returns to the Province" immediately after being bar fined for a couple of days. In my case I paid 10 k per week which was the girl's normal nightly income of 1. 5 paid weekly. She missed out on drink and dancing income but did receive the tip everyday. To her this was worth while. She worked out a deal with her mamasan that I wasn't part of. I think a little money changed hands but it wasn't a lot. Note that at the time I was a regular customer of hers and the bar generally so they knew that when we returned both would be getting on going busoness from me. Both told the bar that she was going home and no bar fine was payable.

    Three- or more-somes are notorious for being over promise under deliver. Personally I love them and have had many. Unfortunately, they have been the full spectrum from a total disappointment to an incredible good time.

    Things to do to improve the odds:

    Always pick the first girl you like and then have HER pick a friend to bring home as well. Do not tell your first pick that "by the way, we are taking Mary home and you are going to fuck her. " Both girls need to be very comfortable in each other's presence. Especially if you want some girl on girl action.

    Be very clear on what your definition of a threesome is and agree on it before paying and leaving. Want to fuck one girl and then the other? Tell them. Want one girl to suck your balls while you fuck her friend? Tell them. Want to jack off while they fuck each other? Tell them. Want to go straight from one pussy to another pussy or mouth? Tell them. If you do not make expectations clear do not be surprised at objections when the action heats up.

    If a girl is unsure or hesitant do not push her as the anxiety will just get worse rather than better back in the room. Better to call it quits and try some one else. If you are not a regular in the bar, don't be afraid to ask mama if she has some girls that like to play together. She will know the limits of all her girls and with her recommendation, the girls are more likely to deliver in full.

    If you are dealing with the loudest most outgoing girl in the bar and she is telling you all the dirty things she will do to her friend while you fuck her be very cautious. She is probably just talking up a storm which will never eventuate. If she invites more girls to come along and suggests a full on orgy, RUN. She is playing you for a sucker who will pay 5 bar fines while 3 girls sit in the bathroom or watch TV.

  6. #22766
    Yes. It is a honey trap and has been used all over the world, especially third world countries. Avoid it at all costs. As other posters have cautioned, check ID and avoid if still in doubt. This will ruin your life. People have been shaken down by people in uniform or taken to a station to be shaken down properly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    Is that a thing? Getting setup with a minor and blackmailed or something? I'm interested to hear what scams are going on in AC.
    If you want to bar fine a girl, ask if a particular girl is available for bar fine before spending money on drinks. The manager would know or ask the girl. It will avoid red days and disappointments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    Anyone getting pissed at finding girls you can't barfine (cherry) or girls that won't barfine?

    Went to Voodoo 24 HR bar at or 10 AM and got a no for a LT barfine request for the only hot girl there.

    Went to some other bar, forgot name, and got a no for a barfine girl because she was a cherry girl, they said her sister's husband or boyfriend or whatever was an owner of the bar.

    Any help?
    I would follow another poster called MonkeyPaw. A lot of people have come down hard on him but I think he makes some very good points, gives a lot of details and posts pictures.

    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    This is how I hunt. I saw, I came, and I conquered, all on first try. No worries about rejection. I'll be honest, Nam didn't have the most beautiful face in the club, but hers was very cute and nice enough. Billboard is full of slender girls with no tits and no ass at all. For me, Nam had the best overall package when you look at her face, body, hair, skin, tits, ass, and spoken English. If you are going to a Go Go bar and you get to inspect the body and face ahead of time, why shouldn't you be leaving there with girl that has the entire package in terms of looks?
    You can approach any adult. Just don't be creepy. Focus on the one you are interested in and find some reason to talk to her or offer her some refreshments. Get her number if you think she is uncomfortable talking to you in front of her friends. Another poster mentioned printing out contact cards. If you look at the pictures I posted last month, that girl is a civilian but she gets stopped all the time by foreign boys asking for directions or trying to talk to her. You might see her on the Internet on somebodies facebook surrounded by lustful foreign guys.

    Another girl in my stable gets stopped all the time to have her picture taken by foreigners. And these are young strapping handsome blond guys. Both girls have told me stories and asked me why. I just laugh because I know they are trying to make me jealous. They are both on social media and somehow some guys get their contact details and make these funny offers of clothing, money and just REAL creepy stuff. Again, the girls would show me to try and get me jealous. I just laugh at the games that goes on. Luckily for me, I never really played those games. Read MonkeyPaws posts. Girls spend a lot of time or their whole lives learning how to manipulate boys.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups. In malls, I don't know where to look. They all seem to be Going somewhere. On WS, there don't seem to be many. Fields Ave seems to be full of ladyboys or massage girls.

    Are my eyes not open?.

  7. #22765
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    ....................Be careful in malls like SM because the majority of the girls there are 'good' girls. It's a different kind of hunting ground.
    I wish you good luck in pulling 'good girls' from the malls if you are non-Asian. As we all know there is a stigma attached to walking with certain foreigners.

  8. #22764
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups. In malls, I don't know where to look. They all seem to be Going somewhere. On WS, there don't seem to be many. Fields Ave seems to be full of ladyboys or massage girls.
    On WS and Fields the numbers vary a lot from day to day. Usually there are more on Friday and Saturday nights.
    The problem with Pinays is that most of them won't offer themselves to you because they are shy. And if they do, they are not the best looking ones usually (like the girls in front of Kokomos, see my previous post). Another problem is they are walking up and down the street all the time. It's not like Beach Road in Pattaya where they are standing still and are easy to approach.
    So you'll have to take the initiative. Follow them, smile, say hello.

    Be careful in malls like SM because the majority of the girls there are 'good' girls. It's a different kind of hunting ground.

  9. #22763

    Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    I have heard rumours that as of July 2 solliciting in the streets is not tolerated anymore in Angeles. It seems that the mayor is behind this. Can anyone confirm this? I can't find anything on internet.
    According to a streetwalker I know they are not allowed to hang out in front of Kokomos anymore. But they can still walk up and down the street to look for customers.
    So not much lost here because the girls hanging out in front of Kokomos are usually not the best ones. (With a few exceptions like the 22 yo little spinner, face 8, body 9, no kids, tight pussy, that hangs around there too quite often. Don't expect a GFE though, she's an optic fuck. But a great optic fuck LOL.).

  10. #22762

    Daily Rates + threesomes.

    I've heard of Koreans paying bars to have a live in girlfriend for days / a week at a time.

    Anyone here ever done daily rates? Or taken them on vacation with you? What rates are they asking, what rates are you guys giving?

    Threesomes. When I had my threesome in AC (my first report here), the girls always wiped me off with wet paper towels or had me shower / wash every time I switched pussies. Is this a common thing anyone else here is getting? This was all bareback BTW. I understand it, but it kind of takes away from the experience.

  11. #22761
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    Re: dangerous / scam.

    Is that a thing? Getting setup with a minor and blackmailed or something? I'm interested to hear what scams are going on in AC.
    Sure it is. Guys get stitched up all the time. However, I've never seen a total innocent being harassed. Karma is a bit#h in Asia so if you play with fire (under a#e girls, violence, non payment for services delivered or just being a dickhead), you will get burned.

    Stay under the radar and everyone will be fine.

  12. #22760
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups.
    Are my eyes not open?
    What is wrong with them being in groups? You think hookers must go out alone? Like Golfinho said, when you see someone you like go talk to them. Then you find out what angle they are coming from. Seems you want chicks to wear an I am a hooker sign.

  13. #22759
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups. In malls, I don't know where to look. They all seem to be Going somewhere.

    Any help?
    You 'don't know where to look'.

    Some Help: when you see a girl that catches your eye, go talk to her. You know, like you do at home, or wherever you are.

  14. #22758
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    Re: dangerous / scam.
    Is that a thing? Getting setup with a minor and blackmailed or something? I'm interested to hear what scams are going on in AC.
    Absolutely. Extortion. Pay up or threatened with jail. Be extra wary of girls working the street (WeChat etc). If there is a question of age insist on ID. Take a pic of the ID and send it to a secure account and make sure she sees you doing it. If she looks young even with ID don't do it. I have heard of phony re*ap allegations as a pretext to extortion. The police can be complicit in these schemes.

    I believe that that Angeles is more dangerous for this thing than any where else in the PI. They are more schooled and experienced in dealing with tourists.

  15. #22757

    AC Freelancer Help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Could be a setup with a minor or some other scam.

    By the way: was the older lady you were talking about really an old lady, as in 50+ or 60+? Or was she just a little bit older than the other girls?
    Re: dangerous / scam.

    Is that a thing? Getting setup with a minor and blackmailed or something? I'm interested to hear what scams are going on in AC.

    Re: older lady.

    Much older, yeah, probably 50's, possibly 60's. Maybe 40's looking just heavily aged. Definitely over 40. Also, I just came back from AC a few days ago and I think I saw the same lady with one of the same girls. I think they legit weren't working together and are now legit working together.

    Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups. In malls, I don't know where to look. They all seem to be Going somewhere. On WS, there don't seem to be many. Fields Ave seems to be full of ladyboys or massage girls.

    Are my eyes not open?

    Anyone getting pissed at finding girls you can't barfine (cherry) or girls that won't barfine?

    Went to Voodoo 24 HR bar at 8 or 10 AM and got a no for a LT barfine request for the only hot girl there.

    Went to some other bar, forgot name, and got a no for a barfine girl because she was a cherry girl, they said her sister's husband or boyfriend or whatever was an owner of the bar.

    Any help?

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