Angeles City

[DandyMan51]

Hey mate, I'm also brown skinned and wanting to go to Philippines around Easter, but I'm not sure what's the best way for a good time that is not overpriced. I'm quite confused with all the information that is also conflicting. I keep on hearing that using apps is the best way and most girls just turn up and stay the night (mostly for not much money), but surely that can't be right for indian people. Whats your view on this?

Simply being Indian is not a disadvantage. But acting poorly is. Dress well, have good hygiene, treat the girls with kindness and respect and don't cheap out on everything. No girl in their right mind would rather spend time with an old, ugly, disrespectful white guy over a young, attractive, kind Indian guy though they may take the white guy over an young, cheap, very disrespectful Indian guy. Beyond that it is simply a numbers game. For anyone, if you message or approach a hundred girls, you may get 20 replies / numbers of which 5-6 will actually turn into anything. The exact number varies on the individual but given some effort, anyone can get a handful of girls to sleep with them given they make an honest effort to be a decent guy.

Also can you suggest any other offbeat (while safe) places besides the popular Manila / AC / Cebu, where I can still get some nice action? Thanks.

I read your post history. For what you are looking for you have two options.

1. Go to the big cities. If this is your first trip, I recommend limiting yourself to metro Manila as there are more than enough girls to satisfy your tastes in this area. It has the amenities of any big city and the numbers game is greatly in your favor. If you screw up with one girl, there are a hundred more you can try with.

2. Go to the province, more rural areas. Here you have a strong foreigner factor. However, I wouldn't recommend this unless you are a rather seasoned traveler and monger as it presents certain risks and downsides that can end badly if you don't know exactly what you are doing.

With all this said, I would still recommend you do some thinking on exactly what you are after. If you want a girl overnight because you want the best deal (lowest cost per hour), I would recommend you go somewhere else like Cambodia. If you want sex with very attractive girls for a good price, I would recommend Thailand. If you are willing to settle for a bit lower attractiveness but want to spend hours talking and cuddling with the girl between sex then I would recommend the Philippines. This place is ideal for a certain type of person. If you aren't that type of person, your money.

[Cool]

I did see young deep pocket Koreans dominating the Cebu scene pre pandemic.

[Cool]

Many things were possible in angeles multiple years ago, girls were just different, many girls 20/30 years ago worked bar in the hope of finding a foreign husband to take them to the usa or europe, they were simple girls from small villages far far away.

I think you will find now the girls of angeles are all mostly hard core local girls, they already have the pinoy husband, the pinoy lover and the pinoy kids, they are not looking to be saved by a westerner anymore.

What the angeles better looking girls clearly want in todays world is mostly to bait and switch, promise the world in the bar only to not barfine at all as many have reported, those girls that do barfine want short time 1 pop and out the door ready for the next punters money.

Yes sure its possible to find more desperate older fatter ladies that seldom get barfined or bought a lady drink to stay long time and play the girlfriend role or to give one a bit more time, after all what other choice does she have, its not as if she can go back to the bar and secure another pay day so she plays the waiting game and hopes the punter gives her a big tip or takes her for brekkie or dinner.

The better looking slim bar girls of angeles city who are in extreme demand because there is so few of them are not in the business of cutting their prices, giving freebies, why should they there is a que of young good looking high spending koreans to spend their time with, why settle for one 5,000 peso long time when a popular girl can do several 5,000 peso short times, after all most pros the world over want money, plenty of money.

Most AC Koreans are not young and good looking. The better looking ones are in Thailand or back home since they can get local women.

[Goferring]

.. wanting to go to Philippines around Easter....

Just a heads up that Holy Week is the worst time to be mongering in PI. All the girls who can afford to ie the prettiest, go home. There will still be girls around, but only those that couldn't muster enough work to have the cash for a ticket.

Enjoy. G.

[Sir Lancelot]

When girls stay long-time they certainly like to catch up on sleep. Grace slept until midday and after a quick second round I waved her goodbye with the agreed 2500 in her purse.

I enjoy having lunch at Kokomos. The food is good, the staff friendly and it's a great people-watching spot. Walking Street is lively early afternoon. A lot of the bars are open and there are lots of pretty girls to be seen. With more time on my hands I would have liked to explore the daytime scene.

Macca was basking in the afterglow of a short-time liaison he'd just finished with a cute DateinAsia girl. His good mood quickly disappeared when I soundly beat him in a few games of pool after breakfast.

I was tempted to arrange an afternoon meeting myself on Tinder but time flies by in Angeles and soon it was time for another bar-crawl.

It was Friday night and we decided to explore some of the bars off Walking Street. It was 7. 30 when we entered Brown Sugar. 8 girls were dancing and at the exact moment Macca leaned to me and described them as 'mid-range 6/10's', a couple of beauties walked past wearing red gowns. The barfine here is 4000 and beers were just 70 pesos as it was happy hour.

SS Bar nearby had some enthusiastic young Hello, girls outside. It's a thin bar and six fairly average girls were dancing, although one was definitely my type with a lip-piercing. I love trawling bars like this looking for a gem.

This stretch used to have some fantastic bars like Roadhouse and Angelwitch (it's possible I've got their names wrong), neither of which is open any more. Angeles will take time to bounce back fully after covid.

Based on recommendations from the forum we tried ChocoLate next, set back from the action on Raymond Street. It was 8. 30 pm and we were the only customers. A family were eating dinner in the corner and children played on the floor, it felt like we'd walked in to someone's lounge. Seven girls sprung to their feet when we walked in, a few of whom were reasonably pretty.

I bought a drink for a very sweet looking 21 year old in a pink dress, fresh from the province. Macca's favourite girl turned out to be her cousin. The most confident girl was a curvy girl who danced so provocatively I thought she was ready to be taught my trademark towel dance, which she replicated sexily on stage. This bar is open from 3 pm until 11 pm and the barfine is 3500.

After a brief pitstop for food, we backtracked on to Walking Street, where we entered Club Sky. 20 girls were dancing on the crowded stage and I recognised one of them, the lovely cherry girl I spoke to in Centauro. The bars must have the same management with the girls alternating between the two. I couldn't resist buying her a drink as she's such a sweet girl. Sat next to me were two topless girls, giving a man a birthday he will never forget.

This is a strange bar. There is not one but two Filipino DJs, baseball caps on back to front, who think they're star of the show. They parade around the bar, mics in hand, thinking they're headlining Glastonbury. While they do this the girls sit on the table surrounding the stage, their backs to the customers, checking their phones. They only stood up whenever a new customer walked in.

Some of these bars have got to get a grip. Guys like me and you are there for one reason, the girls.

It was 10.30 when we walked in to Q Bar, which is a contender for the bar with the liveliest atmosphere. There was lots of singing, dancing and screaming. 12 average girls were dancing but I spotted one lovely girl, pale-skinned and cute. I bought her a drink and we danced hand in hand to Bon Jovi's 'It's My Life'. Things were looking good but when I enquired about the barfine she said 'sorry cannot'.

I went for a recce up and down the street looking for freelancers and spotted a cute girl, walking alongside a large older woman.

'You like?' the older woman said.

'Very beautiful. How old is she? ' I replied.

'19. Have ID'.

I would have taken her but she didn't look at me once during my interaction with the mamasan. One cute smile would have sealed the deal.

I went to La Bamba and it was dead inside. Three girls were sat on the stage, chatting amongst themselves. I'm sure a tumbleweed rolled past at one point.

The moment I stepped in to Dollhouse, Madonna's 'Like A Virgin' began playing and ten game older girls did a dance routine. I quite like it how bars try to give all the girls their moment in the spotlight. I spotted a girl dancing in the cage above the stage, who was a very sexy mover. Ten minutes later she was part of the next dance troupe and she was about four feet tall!

Macca was sat in his favourite spot to perv and observe the comings and goings of Walking Street, the coffee shop overlooking the entrance. I joined him for a drink and watched as pretty girls walked past, many heading in to Mega and Hammer.

He spotted one he recognised from DateinAsia due to a distinctive tattoo she had across her chest. She had portrayed herself as a 'good girl' online but the way she was trawling the street with her friends, all with cleavage on show, suggests she could be turned.

I went in to XS where 20 girls stood on stage, looking glamorous in blue sparkly dresses. A few were attractive but there was no personality on show. The girls didn't dance or smile, they just stood zombie-like. It's 4000 to take a girl for short-time from here and 5000 for long-time.

I formulated a plan. It was past 1 am and I wanted to find a girl to fuck for short-time, so I could have a good sleep. Why pay 4000 at XS when you can find pretty freelancers on Walking Street for 1500?

It didn't take me long to find my girl, an 18 year old called Tessa. She wasn't a stunner but my goodness she was cute. She was only 4 foot 9 and giggled every time I looked at her. Her mamasan quoted 2000 but accepted 1500 and five minutes later we were in my room.

She was very shy and giggly in the room but soon relaxed. She was a very good kisser and soon I was slowly entering her pussy bareback. She was so tight I could barely get in, so when eventually after about a minute of careful manoeuvring I was all the way in, I was gentle with her. She squeezed her face as I slowly grinded in to her and made little squeaky groaning noises. After a while I leaned up and tried to fuck her quicker but she said 'slow, slow'. She was clearly very inexperienced so I let her ride me at her own pace to a climax.

You get a lot of great porn-style sex in Angeles, sometimes it's nice to experience something from the other end of the spectrum.

[FeedSubject]

Hey mate, I'm also brown skinned and wanting to go to Philippines around Easter, but I'm not sure what's the best way for a good time that is not overpriced. I'm quite confused with all the information that is also conflicting. I keep on hearing that using apps is the best way and most girls just turn up and stay the night (mostly for not much money), but surely that can't be right for indian people. Whats your view on this?

Also can you suggest any other offbeat (while safe) places besides the popular Manila / AC / Cebu, where I can still get some nice action? Thanks.

I totally get the cynicism on the comment. I have been around the block a couple of times globally and know exactly what you are talking about. I am of Indian heritage and anytime a girl tells me she likes Indian mongers I basically assume everything she has told me that night is a lie. No one likes Indian mongers. I'm an Indian monger and even I hate Indian mongers. The same with the big dick conversation. I know my dick and it is absolutely average, maybe a little bit below average. There is no way this is one of the bigger dicks you have fucked. However when a girl tells me about her kids or her husband / boyfriend or takes me with her to meet her non-pro friends / family or spends some time with me during the day for free, I tend to have a bit more faith in what they are saying. These are more of the girls whose feedback I actually listen to. I also often buy drinks for mama-sans and bar managers and they sometimes do the same for me. I have heard the same feedback from them. That isn't to say that they particularly like Americans or Europeans either. I have never heard any of the girls I am referring to tell me anything of the sort. Instead most will honestly tell me they prefer Filipinos, often times specifically from their home province.

The members of the forum can make their own judgements based on their experiences but I sincerely believe that when it comes to getting attractive, young girls in the Philippines, especially bargirls, a man of non-Korean heritage of decent appearance, character, and charm could easily take a girl home with a little bit of effort and has no disadvantage to a man of Korean heritage.

Happy Mongering to all!

[FuriousGeorge]

There are plenty of freebies to be had if you have the looks and the game. I stayed away from them my last trip because the true civilians, the non working girls, get weird and jealous. Strange since they are living in AC and I assume they know the score but women are women. I was chatting with a good looking 30-something guy in Lollipop. He was from somewhere in Europe and living and working remotely in Dumaguete. He kept yelling at me (in a friendly way) 'Bro why are you here paying for sex? Everything is free in Dumaguete! Just take them out to dinner! Free for guys like us!' I'm like Bruh, I'm not in Dumaguete, I have limited time, I'm here for the party atmosphere and the quick sure things. We had some fun banter but he seemed genuinely confused.

[AceKicker]

I stayed 3 additional nights in AC from 19 thFeb till 22 thFeb. As before my choice of hotel was ScoreBirds. Sunday 19th was the day of the monthly pool party and the main reason I deiceded to return from Olongapo. Unfortunately the pool party offered absolutely nothing new and truth to be told had pretty lame atmosphere. Since there are only 2 bars they can take girls from to participate there was only 12 models of which I'd say 3 were pretty nice looking ones. Before I used to love swimming during the pool party and have fun with the pool girls but now there were only 3 of them I think so decided to skip swimming part. As usual one girl got someone convinced to buy her the golden bead and won the title with it. My honest opinion is that it's a great tradition to organize that event but it definately should not be done more often what it is now (once a month).

From those 3 days Sunday was still quite busy night and found a lot of lookers from the bars but during Monday and Tuesday things went a lot more quiet. For example none of the lookers from Carusel were around on both of those days. Then again it is a commonly known fact that the girls can usually only have their weekly day off between Monday. Wednesday. This time I wanted to pay more attention to the korean bars since last time I wrote an report was commented about mostly concentrated into western bars. So I went to XS club, BadBoy, Viking, Cosplay atleast and honestly I did not feel I was treated any way different than any other customer there. Girls were friendly and willing to join me but mostly just for ST. One nice looking girl in XS told me she does do LT if feels comfortable with the customer. Unfortunately I had no time / energy starting to build that comfortable status so told her maybe next year. One thing I do have to say about the korean bars which really bothers me and I find repellent is the fact they let people smoke cigarettes indoors. If I enter a small bar and see a person smoking in there I usually turn around and find another place to satisfy my thirst.

In case someone is interested and looking for massage place that offers extras there is one place pretty middle of the walking street not far from Kokomos (opposite side of the street). The girls usually hang around both side of the street wearing white uniforms and they will join you in your room for massage plus all inclusive session if it is what you are looking for. I tried one of these girls on my last afternoon and as the price of the massage was 400 p ended up giving her 2500 p for a nice fuck which was actually the best sex I had during my three week holiday. My original purpose was just to get a massage and a handjob so would feel relaxed to travel but as soon as she saw my dick she started telling how horny she was and that my dick looks so delicious and it's up to me what I want to pay her if she can have it. I told her it's not my original plan but if she wants it so badly she can have it. Her pussy was soaking wet and when she was riding me she told me not to hurry because she wants to enjoy it also. Only regulation was I promised not to cum inside her.

[NapaSlapper]

Sorry, to say that hookers never give out freebies is as inaccurate as saying that they love and worship every monger they go with.

I'm no oil painting but I've certainly received freebies off hookers, two for the price of one, ST turn into overnight etc.

Sure the frequency has dropped off as I get older and uglier but to say girls NEVER enjoy a session or give out extras is simply not true.

Cheers. G.

Many things were possible in angeles multiple years ago, girls were just different, many girls 20/30 years ago worked bar in the hope of finding a foreign husband to take them to the usa or europe, they were simple girls from small villages far far away.

I think you will find now the girls of angeles are all mostly hard core local girls, they already have the pinoy husband, the pinoy lover and the pinoy kids, they are not looking to be saved by a westerner anymore.

What the angeles better looking girls clearly want in todays world is mostly to bait and switch, promise the world in the bar only to not barfine at all as many have reported, those girls that do barfine want short time 1 pop and out the door ready for the next punters money.

Yes sure its possible to find more desperate older fatter ladies that seldom get barfined or bought a lady drink to stay long time and play the girlfriend role or to give one a bit more time, after all what other choice does she have, its not as if she can go back to the bar and secure another pay day so she plays the waiting game and hopes the punter gives her a big tip or takes her for brekkie or dinner.

The better looking slim bar girls of angeles city who are in extreme demand because there is so few of them are not in the business of cutting their prices, giving freebies, why should they there is a que of young good looking high spending koreans to spend their time with, why settle for one 5,000 peso long time when a popular girl can do several 5,000 peso short times, after all most pros the world over want money, plenty of money.

[WestCoast1]

For those that beleive in fairy tales and think that prostitutes actually like having sex with their punters then see how much pussy one gets if he was not paying by the hour or see how much money a pro is willing to give you to fuck her, please let us know how you get on.

Generally agree, but that's not a hard / fast rule. There are exceptions.

Sex with prostitutes is transactional, we all know that. It doesn't mean both parties can't enjoy it, the two aren't mutually exclusive.

Yap, concur.

Sorry, to say that hookers never give out freebies is as inaccurate as saying that they love and worship every monger they go with.

I'm no oil painting but I've certainly received freebies off hookers, two for the price of one, ST turn into overnight etc.

Yap, concur. Have partied with hookers in their off-time from work, things can get wild.

Something amusing happened in the night. SNIP Fair to say it had been a strange night.

You mean that in addition to the nawty, its possible to develop a friendship that involves fun with a (booby) hooker? Nah, you're pulling my leg.

[NapaSlapper]

Sex with prostitutes is transactional, we all know that. It doesn't mean both parties can't enjoy it, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Any experienced monger knows when a girl likes spending time with them and there are physical giveways too whether they enjoy sex. I feel sad that your experiences don't chime with the majority here on the forum. You seem such a cheerful guy, I find it very difficult to believe girls don't warm to you.

Not sure what part of you or me have no idea whether our paid help is actually enjoying herself or not you do not understand.

Sure a girl can act fairly interested, sure a girl can tell one what a big dick he has, what a great lover he is and pretend to climax but you me or anyone else does not know the girls inner feelings or whether she enjoyed herself or was just play acting to receive her payment.

Maybe the difference between us is that you are willing to beleive in fairy tales and I'm a little bit more of a realist.

[Sir Lancelot]

Luna looked fabulous as she slept. Some girls exude natural beauty without makeup. I spent most of the morning assuming she would leave without us having sex due to the emotional turmoil she's going through but thankfully I was wrong. After midday we began kissing and minutes later we were fucking.

I took her for breakfast at Kokomos (she ordered sisig) and then met Macca at Paradise sports bar at the bottom of Walking Street for a few games of pool. I lost 2-1 which was a major achievement given my wonky cue. And no, I'm not a bad loser.

There was an adjoining bar called Bunny which had some nice girls outside, even at this time of day, and a massage place next door called Penguin. Macca told me he'd visited it and they have a fishbowl setup. The price for a one hour massage is 600 and I presume extras could be offered at the girl's discretion.

As we left Paradise the music suddenly stopped and the TV screens went black. It was a power cut. I organised my first laundry drop of the trip at a small place on Vian Street near my hotel.

I assumed the power cut wouldn't last long but I was wrong, it lasted until about 10 pm, meaning my room was like a sauna without air-con. I wondered how it would affect Fields Avenue but it was business as usual, with neon lights flashing and music blaring.

We started later than usual, meeting at Kokomos at 9 pm. A couple of young freelancers caught Macca's eye on the street below, although when he called them over they looked suspiciously young.

I wanted to say Hello, to Jennifer at Champagne, the gorgeous girl I barfined a couple of nights ago, but was told by the mamasan she has gone back to Olongapo for a few days. Only four girls were dancing when we entered but by the time we left there were ten, including an attractive one with a cheeky face.

Next came a contender for best bar on Fields Avenue, Dragon. You have to walk up the steep steps to the bar that used to be called Dragon's Den (Club Asia is the ground level bar below that is currently closed but seeking new management).

So what's great about Dragon? Well, firstly the girls. There were 20 on stage when we arrived and the talent was impressive. I counted five that were strong contenders for a barfine. There are a lot of pretty faces and slender figures for sure. Then they had a catwalk style show in which another bevy of beauties paraded around the stage and then the bar area, to give customers an up-close view of the girls. This bar average 60 barfines a day and it's easy to see why.

The barfine is slightly perplexing. It's 4000 for short-time or 4500 for long-time. During the day it's 3500. The girls wear numbered badges and if the badge is red it means the girl is on her period. I've never seen this before and it points towards good customer service. How many of us have bought a drink for a pretty girl only to have the rug pulled from under our feet when she tells us she's on her mens? If the girl is wearing a yellow badge, she's a 'cherry girl'. Again, a great idea, as it saves customers wasting time on girls they can't fuck. Incidentally, her virginity can be bought for 200,000 pesos. Bargain.

All in all, great girls and very well managed.

I did my best James Bond impression as we went in to Skyfall next. It's not a great layout inside. It's a long, narrow stage with thick pillars in front of it, obstructing the view of some of the dancers. The first batch of girls had ten fairly average lookers, although a few had that dark-skinned, flat-nosed Isaan look my friend Owen is a fan of. The next dance shift had six topless girls, with black tape over their tits, slow-dancing and spinning around the poles.

One of them had a fantastic body and an unusual, distinctive face. Macca caught me looking and said 'I refuse to allow you to go with her' but the more I watched her, the more I liked her. When you go with your same type over and over, sometimes it's good to break things up and pick a girl who is completely different.

We wanted to go to Hi Quality next and I decided to do one of my favourite jokes. I went up to one of the Hello Girls and said 'excuse me, can you tell me are there any good bars around here you could recommend?' Normally the girl ushers you inside quickly but I had to admire the honesty of this girl when she said Avalon. We ignored her advice and popped our heads in to Hi Quality, where there wasn't a single girl dancing. Back out we went.

Club Lucifer only had two girls dancing. Although some bars seem to be thriving post-covid, others need an influx of girls.

The time was 11.30 pm and we decided to try something a bit different. We got a drink at the coffee shop immediately next to the Walking Street sign, a great place to see freelancers scouting around. It's also immediately next door to two clubs, Hammer (upstairs) and Mega (downstairs) and we observed a lot of pretty girls entering both. If you see one you like, you just need to make eye contact.

Macca spotted a pretty freelancer he'd chatted to online who had subsequently ghosted him. She seemed shy and apologetic. Strangely she had a pimp with her, who did all of the taking. Her starting prices were 3000 short-time and 5000 long-time (on par with the girls from the top tier gogo bars) but I'm sure she could be negotiated down substantially.

To prove the point, I spotted two girls heading in to Mega and one of them was a dazzler. She was tall and skinny with a beautiful face and westernised features. She caught me looking and doubled back. She was even prettier up close. Her name was Grace and she was 19.

When I asked how much, she replied 'up to you'. This is where I was grateful I'd researched freelance prices on the forum. People seem to suggest 1000-1500 is the price for freelancers so I figured a hottie like her would command the higher figure. '1500 short-time, 2500 long-time' I countered. She agreed immediately.

There was a twist.

I walked hand-in-hand with her back to my hotel and it was only when I was about to turn in to Wild Orchid's reception that I noticed her less pretty friend was walking behind us.

'Why your friend follow? ' I asked.

'She need toilet' said Grace.

When we got to my room her friend went to the bathroom and started having a shower! I hadn't signed up for this! I told Grace I only wanted her, not her friend, but then the water stopped running and her friend walked in to the bedroom, with a big pair of natural tits. I found my resolve weakening.

'I go shower' said Grace and minutes later her 4/10 friend was sucking me off, as I fondled her majestic tits. Her blowjob skills were exceptional, spitting and deepthroating, slow and then fast. She knelt on to all fours and demanded I fuck her in front of the mirror, so I duly obliged, slapping in to her tattooed arse-cheeks as we locked eyes in the mirror.

Part of me felt angry at myself for being so easily won over by a pair of tits but a larger part of me was having too much fun to care.

Grace finished her shower and lay next to us on the bed, so I asked the big-boobed girl to suck me and spit on my dick to get me lubricated before I slid in to Grace. Her pussy was extremely tight and she seemed to find it painful. It was weird. I was having a threesome with one girl who acted like a virgin and another who acted like a pornstar.

After gently fucking Grace for a couple of minutes I decided I wanted to switch girls. I lay on my back and invited the big-boobed girl to ride me as I buried my face in to her prize assets. I fucked her doggy again (her favourite position) but her blowjob had been exceptional so I got her to suck me to a climax. She pulled her head away when she heard me coming and smiled as I shot my load up my chest. Then she rubbed my cum on to my dick and continued giving me a handjob, focusing on the helmet which was an incredibly intense, pleasurable sensation. This girl has got skills.

I sent the big-boobed girl on her way with a well deserved 1500 pesos and then cuddled up to Grace, who I'd decided to keep for long-time.

Something amusing happened in the night.

We were cuddled up to each other as she was on her phone. 'Nipples' she suddenly demanded. She had perfect small pointy breasts with big nipples, standing to attention, so I did as I was told and sucked them. Suddenly I heard laughing. I looked up and saw that Grace had video-called her female friend and was showing me at work! The person on the call demanded Grace show her my cock. So Grace proceeded to give me a nice handjob as her friend played with herself on the other side of the screen.

Fair to say it had been a strange night.

[MoonShot]

Yes, that's absolutely true! Nice that also other people are noticIng that.

Americans are the koreans in south America. And complainig about koreans in AC, which is at least weird.

This is not only true for Medellin, you can also add e. G. DomRep Sosua and other places in south america / carribean where American Tourists are playing Koreans.

In Sosua I even saw how they were doing Rain Showers with their "bucks" better than any korean in AC. Pathetic.

Or paying 150 $ ST and they are not seeing anything unusual to that.

In Jaco, Costa Rica, the Colombian girls are asking $150 US for short term and getting it from the Americans. It is just the way it is now. This is explained by the fact that Costa Rica is only a 3 hour flight from Florida. For all those criticizing the Koreans in the PI, as noted, Americans are the Koreans in South America. But Koreans aren't there to complain about them. Ha ha ha.

[Goferring]

I think you will find that most sensible guys realise sex with prostitutes is mainly make beleive affection..

Sex with prostitutes is transactional, we all know that. It doesn't mean both parties can't enjoy it, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Any experienced monger knows when a girl likes spending time with them and there are physical giveways too whether they enjoy sex..

I'd say it slightly different as if both parties are enjoying themselves, real or make-believe, it makes a much better transaction for me. Also the reverse: I've never enjoyed a girl mechanically going through a tick list of activities before leaving.

[Goferring]

For those that beleive in fairy tales and think that prostitutes actually like having sex with their punters then see how much pussy one gets if he was not paying by the hour or see how much money a pro is willing to give you to fuck her, please let us know how you get on.

Sorry, to say that hookers never give out freebies is as inaccurate as saying that they love and worship every monger they go with.

I'm no oil painting but I've certainly received freebies off hookers, two for the price of one, ST turn into overnight etc.

Sure the frequency has dropped off as I get older and uglier but to say girls NEVER enjoy a session or give out extras is simply not true.

Cheers. G.