Angeles City

[FuriousGeorge]

I go to AC to relax, drink, party, barhop, grab tits and ass, interview potential superstars, nap, relax again, and have lots of sex. The idea that you would travel all the way there to just get on Tinder and call over a freelancer to cum in, is completely foreign to me.

[RainMania]

I'm starting to think that I should just assume that LT is actually ST in AC. My plan today is to hit the bars early, and get girl number one bar fined early. If she's a runner, I'll just go back out later and get a second girl. In Thailand, if I went back to the same bar and I snubbed her and picked someone else, the girl would be mortified in front of her bar girl friends. Here they would probably tag me as a sucker. At least the 10 k total for two bar fines would be the same as one bar fine in Makati. JFC. $100 for one pop in AC. Not what I expected.

Or better still, don't barfine at all. The same girls are on PL and FB anyway and will be available for half the barfine for LT. Or if you do decide to barfine, always expect ST regardless of what the girl promises in the bar.

Freelance girls, with the pay after model, will almost always keep to their LT arrangement.

[Turgid]

Full report to follow later, but a quick question for the experts:

Very experienced monger, but first time in AC. I made a 5000 LT arrangement with a girl in one of the most well reviewed bars here on ISG. She agreed to stay until 7 am and sex multiple times. Had a great hour with her and finished with pop number one. She stood up and got dressed to leave. WTF, I said. I walked her straight back to the bar and she admitted to the owner that she promised long time. The owner just looked at me and said "tough luck". WTF?? Is this normal operating procedure for AC? If so, I'm never coming back.

When I was last in AC in 2007 my LTs all ended with the girl leaving my room in day light, sometimes even close to noon.

[Expat American]

I'm starting to think that I should just assume that LT is actually ST in AC. My plan today is to hit the bars early, and get girl number one bar fined early. If she's a runner, I'll just go back out later and get a second girl. In Thailand, if I went back to the same bar and I snubbed her and picked someone else, the girl would be mortified in front of her bar girl friends. Here they would probably tag me as a sucker. At least the 10 k total for two bar fines would be the same as one bar fine in Makati. JFC. $100 for one pop in AC. Not what I expected.

I'm hoping at least you didn't tip the runner. Some guys here complain about runners and then say they paid a 1000 P tip. If a girl runs she gets zero, zip, nada. Not even 100 P trike money. 5000 P (100 USD, 3500 B, 1. 5 M IDR) is exorbitant even for LT, let alone ST. In Thailand you get much hotter girls for less and don't even get me started about Indonesia. AC has had its time and the time has passed. Very average looking single moms for $100 USD per pop even with guaranteed BBFS is too much.

[WestCoast1]

Always best to post trip reports after you leave.

Good catch.

I think I only took 3 nights off (no sex).

Oh, to be young again.

I saw a Korean dude barfine her within 3 minutes of meeting her. She changed and they walked out and she was back in exactly 18 minutes. Before I finished my drink. Dude, you have a stunner, enjoy it. Fascinating.

Apparently he did enjoy her, but only for about 3 minutes. Guessing his place is a 7-minute tryke ride. The rest of the time was spent transporting her for the ditty and then back to the bar. Three, three, three.

Looking forward to retiring in this land some day.

You're going to love it. You'll be able to take more than 3 nights off a month, breath for a minute, and enjoy the slow pace.

Until then. I will be back.

Good report. Forrest Gump lives: Phils is like a box of chocolates; never know what you're going to get.

[ShinyCrazy]

An alternative is that you can out them here (

Always best to post trip reports after you leave.

[WestCoast1]

The owner just looked at me and said "tough luck". WTF?? Is this normal operating procedure for AC? If so, I'm never coming back.

Agree with EA / FG. An alternative is that you can out them here (name the bar, the girl, and / or mama), but if you do they will know who you are (most likely) and remember you if you go back in. There's really little downside in that, just that you'd probably be 86'd from that place.

[ShinyCrazy]

Your experience is not 'normal' but it's not unheard of. On to the next. There are so many.

I'm starting to think that I should just assume that LT is actually ST in AC. My plan today is to hit the bars early, and get girl number one bar fined early. If she's a runner, I'll just go back out later and get a second girl. In Thailand, if I went back to the same bar and I snubbed her and picked someone else, the girl would be mortified in front of her bar girl friends. Here they would probably tag me as a sucker. At least the 10 k total for two bar fines would be the same as one bar fine in Makati. JFC. $100 for one pop in AC. Not what I expected.

[FuriousGeorge]

Your experience is not 'normal' but it's not unheard of. You have to understand, that part of the draw of PH is it's fairly lawless. Hell, if I did to girls in US bars what I did every single night in AC I'd be handcuffed and carted away. That's part of the draw. With lawlessness occasionally come experiences like yours. Your dissatisfaction means nothing to the bar compared to chastising a beautiful high earner. Are you going to tell the police? Prostitution is illegal in The Philippines. Chalk it up to experience, understand that it may happen again, and move on. So you didn't cum in the morning. You'll be ok. On to the next. There are so many.

Full report to follow later, but a quick question for the experts:

Very experienced monger, but first time in AC. I made a 5000 LT arrangement with a girl in one of the most well reviewed bars here on ISG. She agreed to stay until 7 am and sex multiple times. Had a great hour with her and finished with pop number one. She stood up and got dressed to leave. WTF, I said. I walked her straight back to the bar and she admitted to the owner that she promised long time. The owner just looked at me and said "tough luck". WTF?? Is this normal operating procedure for AC? If so, I'm never coming back.

[Expat American]

Full report to follow later, but a quick question for the experts:

Very experienced monger, but first time in AC. I made a 5000 LT arrangement with a girl in one of the most well reviewed bars here on ISG. She agreed to stay until 7 am and sex multiple times. Had a great hour with her and finished with pop number one. She stood up and got dressed to leave. WTF, I said. I walked her straight back to the bar and she admitted to the owner that she promised long time. The owner just looked at me and said "tough luck". WTF?? Is this normal operating procedure for AC? If so, I'm never coming back.

It is in the new AC. Back in the day the girl would have never done this. All barfines were LT and if you had an issue the bar and mama-san would refund you or change girls. Now the girls are more interdependent contractors than employees and there are too many bars and too few girls. And even fewer decent looking girls. This is the downside of the pay upfront model in AC. Runners have become a common thing. AC is overpriced and the girls don't even look that good. There are better places to go. I used to love it and been there dozens of times over the last 20 years but I don't think I will go back.

[ShinyCrazy]

Full report to follow later, but a quick question for the experts:

Very experienced monger, but first time in AC. I made a 5000 LT arrangement with a girl in one of the most well reviewed bars here on ISG. She agreed to stay until 7 am and sex multiple times. Had a great hour with her and finished with pop number one. She stood up and got dressed to leave. WTF, I said. I walked her straight back to the bar and she admitted to the owner that she promised long time. The owner just looked at me and said "tough luck". WTF?? Is this normal operating procedure for AC? If so, I'm never coming back.

[Member #4794]

That's a baller move. I may have to try it next time. Although I have a feeling that the mamasan is going to try to join in. Does this go down in the main bar area or upstairs?

This is much easier to do in a proper brothel type situation. But at that place I rent out of the room upstairs or I negotiate the price into the bulk BJ package. Since each BJ is about 15 minutes I try to get them to come down to 1/4th or 1/2 of what they usually ask? And I have them rotate every 15 minutes. I would also save the most "doable" girl for last. Sometimes I negotiate a short time into the last girls session and try to get discounts on the 15 minutes BJs from the extra girls. If the mama tries to get in on the action I tell her she has to pay me.

This was easier to do on santos the rooms were not as bad upstairs, in those rooms I would get proper 4-6 vs1 barfine the whole bar because the inhouse ST is usually dirt cheap. That particular one is a proper shithole and I usually leave my pants on as I don't want splitters in my ass. That upstairs room is the stuff of nightmares. I imagine they could shoot a horror movie in that place without changing a thing, it ALMOST puts me off.

[FuriousGeorge]

That's a baller move. I may have to try it next time. Although I have a feeling that the mamasan is going to try to join in. Does this go down in the main bar area or upstairs?

On occasion I buy that place out and round robin the girls BJ Tokyo pink salon style.

One of the ladies there surprised me as she thought my dick was collapsible like a bendy straw. First time a girl in the AC stubbed my dick on her throat (great! That being said well worth the money. Far cry from the bar girls who try not to actually touch your dick when they give you a BJ. These are some of the hardest working ladies in AC and suck some of the most decrepit of dicks. So when I visit these places its one place I don't get stingy. Where else can you line up 4-5 Bjs in quick succession for a few k? Great way to start the day.

[FuriousGeorge]

18 bucks is a deal breaker? You're there for a limited amount of time. Go nuts, splurge, get what you want. The cheapest I paid was 4. 5 k from Masquerade. I never asked the barfine price at any bar, and I never specified long or short time. Maybe that's why it was usually 5 k. Either way I gave them the option to stay or leave. It was about 50/50, those that slept over.

I also had a few sneak outs. Previous barfines who quit work early (like midnight) and just came over or met me at another bar. No price negotiated - at this point we were friendly and I just gave them what I thought was good.

5000 short time is getting pretty expensive. I paid 4000 at Bunny Bar, Another K bar for LT with a sexy 23 year old with no baby, BBFS one year ago. Have prices gone up that much? I would only consider paying 4,000 for ST for a baby-free 18-23 year old. I'the hope she'the be open to coming over before work for less, but my guess is that K girls won't do that.

I'll be back to find out next month.

[FuriousGeorge]

I am opposite of FG. Old, short, out of shape and not so handsome and still have a good time with my Friends and Family plan.

Not sure I agree with that brother. Either way you are more charming than me and you definitely have more game.

Also totally agree with the hygiene comment. Just wearing those nasty flip flops all day everyday is going to cause major foot odor.