Been to Angeles several times before, most recently in 2017 and 2019 pre-covid with good experiences. This trip in 2024 was my first time back in 5 years so was interested to see what has changed.
Managed to get away from the wife and family during a recent vacation to Taiwan for a couple days and make my way back to Angeles. A little background on me, 30 years old, American born Asian, good shape and build.
Stayed at Central Park Tower as I had in my previous trips. Rooms still look the exact same LOL, but no complaints and well worth the $100 USD daily rate to get a corner room up on the 10th floor with the bathtub and shower.
Landed in the new Clark airport on a Tuesday morning straight from the states (transfer in taipei). $300 peso ride direct to hotel from airport and checked in with no issues. Took a nap until 5 pm and went straight to walking street to see what's changed. Being my first trip in 5 years, didn't even bother to research on here before arriving (should have in hindsight).
People watched like many do for an hour at Kokomos and taking it all in before hitting up the bars. I randomly asked an older man next to me which bars were good and he recommended a couple further down walking street. First observations were that a lot has changed since 2019, definitely less people overall, and more Korean presence. A couple of the bars I remember going to before had closed as well further down walking street, specifically in the alleys before hitting McDonalds.
Started my first night at Genesis around 6 pm. Bar was fairly empty, maybe 10 girls onstage of which none interested me. A couple girls sitting on the side I was told were models and would be going up later. They looked nicer, one girl caught my eye, looked fairly new, but was taken by another guy already. Made my way slowly back towards center of walking street, nothing really stood out until I stumbled upon Bar Nana. This one was new to me, don't remember it back in 2019. Interesting rules, can't go in to look at the girls even without buying a drink (which I did). Much smaller bar, I was told 6-10 girls max working per night. When I arrived around 8 pm, there were 6 left, all skinny and good looking by most standards. One caught my eye, bought her a drink and made good convo before deceiving to barfine her. Bar Nana is definitely not cheap, was told the price was 9 k peso which I paid regardless. Girl promptly changed, we drank back at my hotel room and snuck in a quickie before she took me to Mega Dance for the rest of the night. Finished again around 2 am and she stayed the next morning until 11 am before leaving. No complaints for night 1.
Day 2 more or less the same, slept for majority of day before getting ready to hit the street again around 5. This time, I started at XS, which I highly recommend. Good shows every hour and good atmosphere. One girl caught by eye, bought her a drink but was told she only ST no matter what and doesn't stay the night. Makes sense when I realized how frequent the Koreans would call this 1 specific girl over later in the night. Made my way back to Bar Nana curious what other girls would look like there. This time, same arrival time 8 pm, there was only 1 girl left, who didn't interest me.
Made my way back to XS where I stumbled upon the blacktape model show. Woah now this I will say is tops for me on this trip. One caught my eye immediately and I had the waitress call her over to me. Made good convo and was told the barfine was 6 k. As others have said, majority of girls at XS apparently do no barfine with anyone but Asians and this is what this one specific girl told me as well. Barfined her promptly and repeated the same routine as night before, took her back to my room where we drank before hitting tje dance clubs. Difference with this girl is she stayed through the next day in the room until 4 pm, when I told her I'd take her again. Spent the next 2 days with her and had typical GFE with no complaints whatsoever.
Overall, would say my experience was great, even better than what I remember from 2017 and 2019 (those trips were good as well). I would say make sure you find a girl that gives good energy and vibes before bar fining her, as well as keeping it light and having a good sense of humor. As others have said, negatives would be that there is absolutely nothing else to do in this city other than drink / bang, and the food quality is sub-par. One discovery I made this trip was the Wild Aces poker room, which I highly recommend if trying to kill some time during the day. Just keep in mind the local players here are doing it for a living and won't play any hand unless they have high odds pre-flop. Most of the korean food I ate this trip was average at best, and I'd rather eat that than jolibee / mcd shit. Any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask and look forward to returning in December!
Mongering is like gambling. After a losing streak, for example you pick a girl with a stretch marked mommy belly or deflated saggy tits because she hid them well under her clothes or the girl turns out to be cold in bed or you have a flagging erection because the girl decides to pick a fight about using a condom for a blow job despite promising bare, you start to question the whole endeavor. Maybe you should just quit this whole mongering thing. Too much hassle for MILFs with poor service. Might as well jerk off for free. Then you hit the jackpot: May at Skyfall. Heartbreakingly beautiful 18 yo with perfect breasts and perfect skin. And all is right with the world. I took her upstairs to see the pool bar on the roof of ABC Hotel, which she enjoyed, but she didn't want to stay for a round of drinks. She doesn't drink alcohol. Yep. Young. Inexperienced. Feeling overwhelmed, like a fish out of water. The funny part is that once she put on her street clothes to leave, she was totally nondescript. Her breasts and body were completely obscured by the relatively frumpy outfit. Little would anyone know how great she looks naked.
I saw May yesterday at Skyfall. Was looking at the lineup and spotted her without first knowing her name. Asked her name and then if she would have a drink. She refused. Looked scared. Maybe my old western scar face did not meet her standards. She looked fine but not so hot that I would felt bad not getting her to my room.
Absolutely insane. Watch yourself here. This is not the place to get black out drunk.
So do you mean that if a mongering tourist gets really drunk a local guy comes and stabbs him? Not likely. This was a fight between two flilipino guys. None of us knows the real reasons behind it. Not even your super sexy barfine.
The Philippines regardless of is AC or Subic has increased prices across the board, while service has dropped. Not as many pretty girls, often no BJ, ST only, just an overall bad attitude. Years ago it was paradise. The times have changed, now it's what will you do? Vote with your feet? Cave and pay for lackluster service?
Personally with the influx of Koreans willing to pay, I don't see this changing anytime soon.
I saw the craziest thing last night. Hundred of people were gathered of La Bamba by where the trikes park shouting and filming. All I saw was somebody being sped off in a trike.
I asked my super sexy 23 year old barfine about this and she showed me a video. According to her a bar manager stabbed a Filipino armed service member. Nobody helped, even the two police officers. He was bleeding out but got himself into a trike. He spent about five minutes trying to get someone to drive him to the hospital. Finally a trike drove up to drop someone off, and he took him to the hospital. Absolutely insane. Watch yourself here. This is not the place to get black out drunk.
I heard about this also.
I just saw a video posted on FB. It shows two filipinos fighting outside Champagne bar on WS. One guy falls on the ground and another one with a "Jordan 23" shirt and baseball cap stabs the other guy multiple times with a butchers knife. The stabbed guy gets up and runs towards Kokomos. The stabber calmly walks away down Walking St. The stabbed guy is covered in blood, I heard he died before he reached hospital.
7-10 years ago many bars had a wild child party girl that could get the other girls out of their shell and get the customers to relax and open up (mostly their drinking wallets for shots). These fun girls are gone in the Korean bars and missing in so many of the remaining Western run bars. So sad so many of you old timers seem to have forgotten about these girls and new guys have never seen one out in the wild. The Koreans do not like these types of girls. Now they have these boring girls that hang on their arms and follow them around while rarely smiling.
Angeles is in trouble because the wild child party girls are pretty much gone which has sucked a lot of the fun out of the bars and going out bar hopping with the girls. Guys like me who like ST will not be returning. High Society is gone and other discos are very poor replacements for freelancer pickups (older bar girls and guys that new HISO pretty much all agree). Only 2 of 10ST bars remain and with fewer girls. The Koreans hate the Chinese and Japanese from prior wars, not fond of whites, and look down on anyone with brown skin. Non-Koreans are not warmly welcomed into their bars so why would a non-Korean want to keep returning? So many will not even go into Korean bars. Once the currency exchange drops from the current highs of 55 p / usd back down to 45 p / usd the costs for these girls is not worth the trip for a now larger group of USA Citizens.
5000 bar fine + 150 drink + 250 LD + 50 waitress tip = $99 at 55 p / usd or $121 at 45 p / usd.
Thats an incomplete calculation, you need to add Meals, Flights, Hotels and work out a "Per day" cost. Also a "Per Lay" cost.
I saw the craziest thing last night. Hundred of people were gathered of La Bamba by where the trikes park shouting and filming. All I saw was somebody being sped off in a trike.
I asked my super sexy 23 year old barfine about this and she showed me a video. According to her a bar manager stabbed a Filipino armed service member. Nobody helped, even the two police officers. He was bleeding out but got himself into a trike. He spent about five minutes trying to get someone to drive him to the hospital. Finally a trike drove up to drop someone off, and he took him to the hospital.
Absolutely insane. Watch yourself here. This is not the place to get black out drunk.
Can you elaborate on this? Was this crossing the street to SM clark and their have been reports of some teenage gang activity in the dark area before the jeepney terminal and stop light.
It was in broad daylight on Teadore St on the way to Raine Spa for a massage. There is a barricade blocking one of the lanes, and a truck was coming. There's no way to get by so I stopped and crossed my arms. That was a mistake, and provided access to my phone in my front pocked.
I wear a sun jacked during the day now with zippered pockets.
After a 6 year hiatus I made it back AC, and wanted to see if all the negative posts were true.
Only being there two days, which is more than enough I had no problem bar fining girls being a westerner in their late 30's. Quotes I got were 3000 from a daytime bar-5000 from lolipops for ST the problem is that the two girls I BF'd were both shit service. The girl from Lolipop was pretty hot though. Luckily I got one good experience (2000) from a girl from Pinoy Love a friend recommended.
AC is also hot, dirty and noisy and nothing to do outside the bars. It might be fun for some but not my cup of tea.
5000 bar fine + 150 drink + 250 LD + 50 waitress tip = $99 at 55 p / usd or $121 at 45 p / usd.
This is still 3000 + 90 peso drink + 150 LD+ 50 waitress tip = 3290/$60 at 55 or $73 at 45 on the perimeter if the php does come down the more budget minded mongers will move further down and that area will come alive again and the koreas will go BK on walking street and we should see another changing of the guard at that point as well. We should really thank them for keeping the lights on during this troubled time tbh. They are kind of doing it for not much profit and not much real gain and animosity.
I way trying to cross a street and a guy pick-pocked my iPhone. Buy a cheap phone you wouldn't care about losing, and keep you iPhone in the safe.
Can you elaborate on this? Was this crossing the street to SM clark and their have been reports of some teenage gang activity in the dark area before the jeepney terminal and stop light.
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